Ko Tee admits organising 'Red Riot' Forces

[PepperMe]

And to think some people thought Jataporn had a screw loose.

if they really had the group why did they use Cambodian to do the dirty work

Bloody hell.

That is the easiest question in the world to answer.

Thaksin is creating all this havoc. Thaksin is in full control of all the attacks so far over this mess, he was in total control in 2010 and he is today.

He has very good connections with the worst of Cambodia, he has plenty of money they want.

When you are in Thaksin's situation, it does you no good to stand up and declare that you are responsible for the particularly despicable act of deliberately targeting local children alongside the rallies in an attempt to turn local opinion against the PDRC.... It didn't work. The locals knew exactly who was to blame and did not turn on the protesters. He failed.

Not only would it be very difficult to get even the vilest of red shirts to carry out these acts, it would be easy to get Cambodians to carry it out. Many hold a grudge against Thais.

But the most important thing is, that once his puppet show gets cancelled and he no longer has control, then investigations are going to start in earnest. He NEEDS that link in Cambodia to stop any investigation in its tracks and thus removing any links to HIMSELF.... Something he could never afford to happen, so knowing that as soon as an investigation moved towards Cambodia, that is where there will be absolutely NO help and the trails goes dead.

That is why he would have used Cambodians.

Thaksin almost certainly deliberately ordered the deaths of kids as a shocker to Thailand in the hope that would be the end of the PDRC when all the locals turned on them.

FAIL!!!

I am totally convinced of this....... TOTALLY.

Edited to add, that not only did he fail to shift local opinion against the PDRC, when his paramilitary wing (UDD) got up on stage while everyone were still puking up their lunch at the deaths of 4 kids.... And actually CELEBRATED it. Including PTP Cabinet Members.

The public fallout from that was felt and condemned nationwide, even YL was forced to come out publicly and condemn the attacks, something she would never have done had the UDD not put her and bro in a tricky situation..... we all know that because it took days to come out and say it (as painful as it must have been).

So I now expect the next election to produce way less votes for the PTP as the 8 million miserable votes they got last month.

They are done.

Edited March 18, 2014 by PepperMe

[HonestQuietBob]

Wifey just said something that got me thinking.

She is not alone in thinking that the reds are trying to provoke a coup.

Reason being that PT have so effed up that they are willing for the military to step in, wait a few years for new elections and emerge, reborn and untarnished.

Well if your wife said it I can't possibly see how it cannot be true.

Any chance of getting some lottery numbers off the little lady?

[SheungWan]

You can never condone violence, and i presume this guy is a bit of Walter Mitty, but i don't know why anyone is surprised about this.

You continue to overthrow elected Governments of one particular voter base through non voting means, then deep hatred and crazy people will tend to surface.

The crazy people are being financed by Thaksin. Nothing to do with the overthrow of an elected government, unless we are talking about 2010.

[Fat Haggis]

Nah you're wrong about the kids, they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time, if Thaksin wanted to hurt kids, he'd have been deliberately targeting the protests in the day time, where there was more kids.

These M79 rounds are normally fired at from a distance, but with a line of sight, go outside tonight and see how difficult it is to locate anyone in particular, and then see how much the crowd moves, it was a market, a busy one at that, if you're talking about the Trat incident.

They've literally fired over a hundred M79 rounds over the past 4 months, trust me, if you're wanting to maximise the damage, you don't aim to miss, and way too many M79 rounds have either failed to detonate, or have missed by a LONG shot, but they managed to hit the kids as that was their intended target??

Nah, I'm 100% convinced you're way off the mark as to the kids being deliberately targeted.

The sicko in me would have these grenades fired into schools if the intention was to kill kids mate

[HonestQuietBob]

And to think some people thought Jataporn had a screw loose.

if they really had the group why did they use Cambodian to do the dirty work

Bloody hell.

That is the easiest question in the world to answer.

Thaksin is creating all this havoc. Thaksin is in full control of all the attacks so far over this mess, he was in total control in 2010 and he is today.

He has very good connections with the worst of Cambodia, he has plenty of money they want.

When you are in Thaksin's situation, it does you no good to stand up and declare that you are responsible for the particularly despicable act of deliberately targeting local children alongside the rallies in an attempt to turn local opinion against the PDRC.... It didn't work. The locals knew exactly who was to blame and did not turn on the protesters. He failed.

Not only would it be very difficult to get even the vilest of red shirts to carry out these acts, it would be easy to get Cambodians to carry it out. Many hold a grudge against Thais.

But the most important thing is, that once his puppet show gets cancelled and he no longer has control, then investigations are going to start in earnest. He NEEDS that link in Cambodia to stop any investigation in its tracks and thus removing any links to HIMSELF.... Something he could never afford to happen, so knowing that as soon as an investigation moved towards Cambodia, that is where there will be absolutely NO help and the trails goes dead.

That is why he would have used Cambodians.

Thaksin almost certainly deliberately ordered the deaths of kids as a shocker to Thailand in the hope that would be the end of the PDRC when all the locals turned on them.

FAIL!!!

I am totally convinced of this....... TOTALLY.

Edited to add, that not only did he fail to shift local opinion against the PDRC, when his paramilitary wing (UDD) got up on stage while everyone were still puking up their lunch at the deaths of 4 kids.... And actually CELEBRATED it. Including PTP Cabinet Members.

The public fallout from that was felt and condemned nationwide, even YL was forced to come out publicly and condemn the attacks, something she would never have done had the UDD not put her and bro in a tricky situation..... we all know that because it took days to come out and say it (as painful as it must have been).

So I now expect the next election to produce way less votes for the PTP as the 8 million miserable votes they got last month.

They are done.

"Thaksin almost certainly deliberately ordered the deaths of kids as a shocker to Thailand in the hope that would be the end of the PDRC when all the locals turned on them".

Surely this statement is the lowest and most idiotic ebb that ThaiVisa has ever reached - no matter what metric is used to measure this crap - it is low,low, low.

[seajae]

The real problem is that the PTP/YL fools actually support these people and their threats. If they didn't they would have come out already, but have they come out to denounce any of these threats yet?...... NO.

That means they support them.

If the student network came out with things that the UDD and Ko Tee do.... they would have all been condemned the same day by just about every member of the government and screams would rise to have the lot of them rounded up at any cost.

That is the glaring difference.

Ko Tee is clearly trying ro extract cash from Thaksin with these threats, and I would not be surprised if he did a runner with it once he got his hands on it.

Well gentlemen , I support the system of electoral democracy which resulted in Yinglucks Government. On balance I think that the governments from the Thaksin faction have been better for the people of Thailand than the other party would have been, and I want the next government to be elected rather than appointed.

I also abhor and condemn all, I say again all, political violence, irrespective of which side of the spectrum it comes from. I have seen its effects first hand in Northern Ireland and Former Yugoslavia. I will never support it.

I hope, and am sure that the vast majority of Thais who have consistently voted for Pheu Thai and its predecessors also reject such violence. That does not mean that they should all prove this by crossing the Rubicon and joining the opposing side, even if you are convinced that its cause is the only way forward.

It is possible to support PT, Yingluck, even UDD and not support violence.

In summary, I bend towards the reds, not uncritically, I do not support violence.

Now please can we have a break from posts demanding that we all mirror your views, or forever stand convicted as child killers!

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we are happy to read your opinion

as you are not Thai it means nothing

and as I do not walk around Bkk with my eyes shut

to me it also means nothing

but here in TVF you can have you 5 mins of fame

Seajae and Pepperme asked why reds do not condemn violence.

I made a considered reply pointing out that I and many others do.

You come back with this sarcastic load of b*ll*cks.

I give up, there really is no point

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how, you say that you support yl, the ptp and the reds but not violernce, does this mean you support the rampant corruption they are forcing on Thailand.They totally ignore repeated requests to revoke thaksins passport they personally delivered to the wanted criminal, they let him tell them what to do when he should be in jail, they have set up graft like no one else ever has and continue to do so and then when it looks like they are going to be brought to justice for all the crimes they have commited the reds threaten to resort to terrorism to stop it. Basically you have declared you want the corruption to continue and fully support it therefore you must also support everything that these idiots do, you cannot say you support them one one hand then deny you support what they do. As they say, you are either with them or against them, there is no sitting in the middle on this, either you want a Thailand for all thais or thaksin country, there is no other choices here. The corruption needs too end, thaksin needs to be brought to justice and those that have feathered his nest and that of his party need to face prosecution without the reds threatening to start killing people because their paymaster is p*ssed at the result, ie, democracy in action.

[Morch]

And once again, NO CONSEQUENCE for one's actions. Everyone wonders why people get the audacity to do this, or that. From Sondhi, all the way to this guy now, and the reason is, that they know they ahve a 95% chance of NEVER facing any punishment. They are charismatic loonies and they spit at the law. Very very dangerous people.

Don't recall Sondhi making threats on this level.

Even Seh Daeng wasn't that explicit.

[Fat Haggis]

Seajae,

Many Irish people over the globe supported Irish Republicanism, but they didn't support the actions of the PIRA, or the splinter group the INLA, Again, many Republicans supported Sinn Feinn, the political wing of the PIRA, but again didn't support the paramilitaries, it was well known at the time these paramilitaries were knee deep in corruption also, as well as organised crime. Doesn't mean to say that all Republicans supported the bombings and the killings, not the extortion and organised crime either, they believed in the core values, and many parties suffer similar when they're hijacked by militants.

Yes, it's possible to support a party and still condemn acts of voilence, and it's also possible to remain a supporter even when scandal after scandal after scandal comes to light, it's the leadership that you lose the faith in, not the core values

[suthep songserm]

With any luck this guy is just "barking" so the Reds don't have to "bite".

This guy is not barking....he seemed to growl to protect his part of interest, but when provoked his just a pitbull .....following his descendants....so i guess...just take it easy for now....party now and also be prepared to run to the nearest emergency exits...the army will definitely win but leaving more than half a thousand dead and thousands injured this time. Not far from a few moons i see and predict...psychologically from their speech and actions, it will happen and last for less than a week. Mark the words of the reds , yellows and green; chaos is evident. Now just hope for the miracle to happen and not let it happen. chances 99/100 percent.

[Thai at Heart]

And once again, NO CONSEQUENCE for one's actions. Everyone wonders why people get the audacity to do this, or that. From Sondhi, all the way to this guy now, and the reason is, that they know they ahve a 95% chance of NEVER facing any punishment. They are charismatic loonies and they spit at the law. Very very dangerous people.

Don't recall Sondhi making threats on this level.

Even Seh Daeng wasn't that explicit.

I never said he did. I am saying, that once you set the precedent that people are allowed to strut their stuff around in public and say bascially anything they fancy, with absolutely no consequence, then people will over time get more and more daring, to where they are now.

The whole legal system is a screw up, and NO ONE is held accountable until someone is even remotely accused of insulting the monarchy. Then all bets are off, and the law comes crashing down on you. Just listen to some of the stuff that has come off these collective stages over the last 6 year or so. Disgusting invectice, lies, accusations, and gutter insults. Protests with blood, and barely any consequences for ANYONE. So why not. Just stand up there and talk of sedition and overthrow. Whats the risk?

[Fat Haggis]

You're forgetting one simple thing young man, you're making an assumption that the regular Thai soldiers have the stomach for a fight that will not be over in weeks, the Army will have to go to them, they're not stupid either, they will know all the supply routes, the area itself, many of them will believe they're fighting for their homes.. It's Folly to think it's going to be a one sided affair in that the Army will crush them..

The Army will also have casualties, they'll already have a figure in their heads as to what's classed as acceptable loses, so last thing Thailand needs is for either side here to begin hostilities, and civil war ensues..

War is ugly, it's extremely violent and it effects people in many different ways, it's not like Call of Duty, or Battlefield 4 where you can kill dozens in a melee attack, and once your bored, switch it off, or if you get killed, you just reboot, and play the same level again!! In war once you're dead, you're dead. Your family will be the ones that has to comes to terms with the senseless killing.

[tomacht8]

But why hasn't he been arrested yet??? This has been going on for a few weeks now.

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Maybe he is paid from the "elites."

Ko tee works clearly for the dems.

This screamer generate an enormous harm to the PT and to the UDD.

Who likes now to support still the PT, the UDD and the reds.

The moderate supporters all run away.

Ko tee and Jatuporn give the PT, YL and the reds an ugly face.

Maybe a brilliant move.

I do not understand why the PT government and the reds not clearly distanced themselfs from these hate preachers.

Edited March 18, 2014 by tomacht8

[Thai at Heart]

You're forgetting one simple thing young man, you're making an assumption that the regular Thai soldiers have the stomach for a fight that will not be over in weeks, the Army will have to go to them, they're not stupid either, they will know all the supply routes, the area itself, many of them will believe they're fighting for their homes.. It's Folly to think it's going to be a one sided affair in that the Army will crush them..

The Army will also have casualties, they'll already have a figure in their heads as to what's classed as acceptable loses, so last thing Thailand needs is for either side here to begin hostilities, and civil war ensues..

War is ugly, it's extremely violent and it effects people in many different ways, it's not like Call of Duty, or Battlefield 4 where you can kill dozens in a melee attack, and once your bored, switch it off, or if you get killed, you just reboot, and play the same level again!! In war once you're dead, you're dead. Your family will be the ones that has to comes to terms with the senseless killing.

The army is not going to wage a civil war in thailand. No way, no how. Half of them wouldn't fight anyway, and a huge percentage of them are from isaan anyway. That's the problem with a conscript army.

Aside from anything, everyone forgets every poor man has done basic training anyway. They can all shoot and know the basics already. They might hand the army a bloody lip.

[NeilSA1]

Well gentlemen , I support the system of electoral democracy which resulted in Yinglucks Government. On balance I think that the governments from the Thaksin faction have been better for the people of Thailand than the other party would have been, and I want the next government to be elected rather than appointed.

I also abhor and condemn all, I say again all, political violence, irrespective of which side of the spectrum it comes from. I have seen its effects first hand in Northern Ireland and Former Yugoslavia. I will never support it.

I hope, and am sure that the vast majority of Thais who have consistently voted for Pheu Thai and its predecessors also reject such violence. That does not mean that they should all prove this by crossing the Rubicon and joining the opposing side, even if you are convinced that its cause is the only way forward.

It is possible to support PT, Yingluck, even UDD and not support violence.

In summary, I bend towards the reds, not uncritically, I do not support violence.

Now please can we have a break from posts demanding that we all mirror your views, or forever stand convicted as child killers!

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Well said. Violence,or the propensity for violence, must be condemned regardless of what ‘side’ a person is on.

In every instance it should be condemned.

[JAG]

The real problem is that the PTP/YL fools actually support these people and their threats. If they didn't they would have come out already, but have they come out to denounce any of these threats yet?...... NO.

That means they support them.

If the student network came out with things that the UDD and Ko Tee do.... they would have all been condemned the same day by just about every member of the government and screams would rise to have the lot of them rounded up at any cost.

That is the glaring difference.

Ko Tee is clearly trying ro extract cash from Thaksin with these threats, and I would not be surprised if he did a runner with it once he got his hands on it.

Well gentlemen , I support the system of electoral democracy which resulted in Yinglucks Government. On balance I think that the governments from the Thaksin faction have been better for the people of Thailand than the other party would have been, and I want the next government to be elected rather than appointed.

I also abhor and condemn all, I say again all, political violence, irrespective of which side of the spectrum it comes from. I have seen its effects first hand in Northern Ireland and Former Yugoslavia. I will never support it.

I hope, and am sure that the vast majority of Thais who have consistently voted for Pheu Thai and its predecessors also reject such violence. That does not mean that they should all prove this by crossing the Rubicon and joining the opposing side, even if you are convinced that its cause is the only way forward.

It is possible to support PT, Yingluck, even UDD and not support violence.

In summary, I bend towards the reds, not uncritically, I do not support violence.

Now please can we have a break from posts demanding that we all mirror your views, or forever stand convicted as child killers!

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we are happy to read your opinion

as you are not Thai it means nothing

and as I do not walk around Bkk with my eyes shut

to me it also means nothing

but here in TVF you can have you 5 mins of fame

Seajae and Pepperme asked why reds do not condemn violence.

I made a considered reply pointing out that I and many others do.

You come back with this sarcastic load of b*ll*cks.

I give up, there really is no point

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how, you say that you support yl, the ptp and the reds but not violernce, does this mean you support the rampant corruption they are forcing on Thailand.They totally ignore repeated requests to revoke thaksins passport they personally delivered to the wanted criminal, they let him tell them what to do when he should be in jail, they have set up graft like no one else ever has and continue to do so and then when it looks like they are going to be brought to justice for all the crimes they have commited the reds threaten to resort to terrorism to stop it. Basically you have declared you want the corruption to continue and fully support it therefore you must also support everything that these idiots do, you cannot say you support them one one hand then deny you support what they do. As they say, you are either with them or against them, there is no sitting in the middle on this, either you want a Thailand for all thais or thaksin country, there is no other choices here. The corruption needs too end, thaksin needs to be brought to justice and those that have feathered his nest and that of his party need to face prosecution without the reds threatening to start killing people because their paymaster is p*ssed at the result, ie, democracy in action.

You are reading things into my post that are quite simply not there. What I said is what I mean. Don't assume for one minute that I believe what you think I believe. You hate Thaksin, fine ,I really couldn't care less, but it does not mean that because I don't share your views on him or his faction, that I support what you allege I do. As for sitting in the middle, I'll sit where I like, and no amount of intolerant ranting from you will change that.

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[speedtripler]

Red shirt apologists will have a tough time with this one. Ko Tee's like Jatuporn on steroids. The problem is that we already know what these people are capable of. We remember the massive arson which devastated downtown Bangkok in 2010 and we remember the looting of the department stores. For those who do not remember ( or choose not to remember ), listen to Ko Tee words today ...

" According to Mr. Wuttipong, some members have to take loans from banks to help organize their local underground groups. "

Ko Tee's memory needs to be jolted. Two days ago, a tape of Ko Tee went viral. All the news agencies reported on it. It is the tape that started it all. It called for the looting of money from ATMs belonging to the Thai Military Bank, as well as other banks, including Bangkok Bank and Krungri Bank. Speaking to Khaosod today, Ko Tee refers to " bank loans ". He apparently realized that his celebrated tape ( which is now a part of historical fact, like the infamous UDD secession tape ) made it clear he was talking about bank heists. The army has the tape ( as does everyone else ). They should now take him to court on the basis of it. Today, note Ko Tee's comment about the independent agencies ...

" They want to deny her even a country to live in," Mr. Wuttipong complained. "

He of course knows that the independent agencies never said any such thing. Suthep did, and for that he should be held to account. But the independent agencies have never ever made such a statement. But that doesn't suit Ko Tee's purposes, does it ? He needs to find a reason - any reason - outside of Bonnie and Clyde, presumably - to justify bank heists to a public who remember all too well how stolen designer clothes and jewels advanced the cause of democracy in 2010.

Dont waste any more money on this numbscull. Just place a piece of lead between his eyes Mr Army general. You have you man of insurrection now what more do you need for an excuse.

wait til they start robbibg the army banks ........

i doubt theyle get to spend any of the money before being up chewed up with army firepower

that would actually be better because there would be no need to arrest them and give them trials or more publicity

a bit silly to anounce on the radio your going to start robbing the armys banks before you actually rob them

if they werent well protected already ,they will be ready by now

[JAG]

Ive now recovered my equilibrium somewhat, sat down with a glass and considered what you wrote and my answer.

I initially did my best to answer questions posted by you and Pepperme.

Your reply leaves me convinced that further discussion is pointless. Shall we consider the exchange closed? You may chalk it up as a great victory as far as I am concerned.

Good night

[smedly]

What really surprises me is the fact that Ko Tee has a university education - it really doesn't show

He has an unsurpassed fundamental understanding of democracy and how it works

A wonderful man and upstanding citizen of Thailand - I think someone has a plan for him

[smedly]

One unique ability of the UDD is to mould terrorists with fanatical views. They are experts at it all the way down from the leaders down to the grass roots that cheer innocent lives lost. They thrive on misdeeds and love to flirt with the wrong side of the law. This is of no surprise though. Most terrorist organizations are born out of a hatred or through a shared contempt of something. In this case it is there hatred of the army and the courts not allowing abuse of power and corruption to flourish. The UDD, born out of this cancerous love for what's wrong with democracies are not of an ilk that will solicit sensible democratic discussions. One would be to worried about checking them for a lighter and a concealed weapon as opposed to being offered constructive dialogue.

This cancer even extends onto the party they defend whose inability to follow the constitution is second to none. Whose ability to disregard the majority voice and still purport to be democratic. Criminals defending criminals here. Now Ko Tee is saying that if the constitutional court find yingluck guilty and even if the evidence is irrofutable the bullets will be heard in Bangkok? So he will break the law and attempt to start a civil war because yingluck was negligent. Doesn't matter if she was or wasn't, it is because the UDD don't respect a principle of democracy called "rule of law". So really Ko Tee will go against the democratic principles to fight for democracy. That's PTP logic right there.

And where is yinglcuk during all this? No guiding speeches to steer the ship through the storm. No inspiration speeches to calm the waters. No denouncing this armed militia uprising threatening the national interest. No. She has no problem alluding to the courts being biased on national TV to stir further hatred and to promote violence yet she cannot denounce terrorist attacks on national TV, but hides behind Facebook.

Ko Tee, your a poster boy of the UDD and epitomize what they stand for. Time to accept the will of the people however even if you don't like it accept it.

Most terrorist organisations are borne out of either religious/severe Political beliefs or from a wrong doing by an authoritative figure that has made them feel oppressed, typically stemming from such acts as an invading force removing their day to day lifestyle.

You also have to understand as well that throughout history, one mans terrorist is also another mans Freedom Fighter..and labeling someone a terrorists isn't quite as clear cut as you like.. case in point Nelson Mandella..a convicted terrorist whose organisation was responsible for thousands of deaths, and as head of the ANC, he was incarcerated, some will argue that he was fighting an oppressive Government in Apertheid but try justifying that to the people who lost loved ones to the ANC. He then went on to become a revered World Statesman, and was adored the world over, but to the many people who have fought in conflicts involving terrorists, and their organisations, and have had loved ones, family and friends lose their lives through such activities when you're called a terrorist, and you run a terrorist organisation, then you will always be classed as that..You cannot pick and chose who's a terrorist and who isn't just because of their cause.

Many Americans supported the IRA as they believed it was a "cause" , sorry chummy but when innocent women and children, and unarmed soldiers were being killed by bombs and guns, that's Terrorism, pure and simple, don't window dress it up as anything else.

So be careful Jamie as to how you label these extremists, me I agree with a lot of what you're saying, any organisation that targets the civilian population with acts of violence and intimidation are in my book very aptly called "terrorists" and you fight them with dirty tricks, forget trying to be conventional with them, it doesn't work, you need to be as nasty and as relentless as they are..

This guy needs to be reeled in sooner, rather than later, and you also need to remember, a lot of these cops have been intimidated into turning a blind eye as well.

so can I summarise your post

If I call someone a terrorist - up to me

If you don't think they are - up to you

Criminals might be a better term

[smedly]

Nah you're wrong about the kids, they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time, if Thaksin wanted to hurt kids, he'd have been deliberately targeting the protests in the day time, where there was more kids. These M79 rounds are normally fired at from a distance, but with a line of sight, go outside tonight and see how difficult it is to locate anyone in particular, and then see how much the crowd moves, it was a market, a busy one at that, if you're talking about the Trat incident. They've literally fired over a hundred M79 rounds over the past 4 months, trust me, if you're wanting to maximise the damage, you don't aim to miss, and way too many M79 rounds have either failed to detonate, or have missed by a LONG shot, but they managed to hit the kids as that was their intended target?? Nah, I'm 100% convinced you're way off the mark as to the kids being deliberately targeted. The sicko in me would have these grenades fired into schools if the intention was to kill kids mate

ah so it was OK then, it was an accident

[Mackie]

I mean it is difficult to understand how could anyone try to defend Ko Tee and his actions. Come on, we all know how the legal system works in developed countries. What he is doing is as treacherous as it gets. He is lucky to be free. A testament how lenient Thailand is. It would be perfectly legal to lock him up for 20-30 years or even execute him for treason. How long would Ko Tee last in the USA or UK 'performing' same stunts?

[diehard60]

Question everyone!!!!!!! Is he and suthep brothers??????? They sound the same.

[klauskunkel]

What I see in this article is a plea to Thaksin for funding. Ko Tee is the loudest dog in the pack and he wants to get paid, is all really.

"Look Thaksin, how loud I can bark (give me money). I threaten everybody for you and Yingluck (give me Money). I am a force to be reckoned with (give me MONEY). I am ready for action (give me MONEY)."

[gemini81]

Question everyone!!!!!!! Is he and suthep brothers??????? They sound the same.

No; brother of Jatuporn, cousin of Chalerm, fate of Seh Daeng.

[Dogmatix]

this just confirms everything that we have been saying about the reds, if they do not get their own way they will start killing everyone. This is not about what is legal and democratic it is the reds declaring that they have to be given whatever they want, the fact that the ptp/yl have committed/ been involved in corruption doesnt even come into it, if yl is charged and removed they are going to start shooting. Where in the hell are the police/tarit in all this, this man has openly declared himself and his red shirt followers as terrorists and he is still walking around, why isnt he in jail. Anyone now supporting these crettins is declaring their support for terrorism, this is totally pathetic but I bet the red squad will try to paper over it..

The real problem is that the PTP/YL fools actually support these people and their threats. If they didn't they would have come out already, but have they come out to denounce any of these threats yet?...... NO.

That means they support them.

If the student network came out with things that the UDD and Ko Tee do.... they would have all been condemned the same day by just about every member of the government and screams would rise to have the lot of them rounded up at any cost.

That is the glaring difference.

Ko Tee is clearly trying ro extract cash from Thaksin with these threats, and I would not be surprised if he did a runner with it once he got his hands on it.

Thaksin is a very slippery customer when it comes to paying his henchmen. He is a firm believer in "jam tomorrow" compensation and followers are generally promised positions they can extract cash from through corruption, rather like the tax gathering franchise that the Shin clan made its first big bucks from. Nattawut has obviously cashed in like this at the Commerce Ministry (sorry farmers) and Jatuporn has thus far missed out but is now desperate to collect. Ko Tee might be a little harder to fit into a government job. It is more likely that, once he had outlived his usefulness, he would have a nasty accident that could be blamed on the military before his IOU came due.

[seajae]

"On balance I think that the governments from the Thaksin faction have been better for the people of Thailand than the other party would have been"

"It is possible to support PT, Yingluck, even UDD and not support violence.
In summary, I bend towards the reds"

"You are reading things into my post that are quite simply not there. What I said is what I mean. Don't assume for one minute that I believe what you think I believe. You hate Thaksin, fine ,I really couldn't care less, but it does not mean that because I don't share your views on him or his faction, that I support what you allege I do. As for sitting in the middle, I'll sit where I like, and no amount of intolerant ranting from you will change that."

Ok which part did I read things into. You think thaksin was great for Thailand, you support yl, the ptp and the udd but claim you dont like violence(no mention of the corruption I notice).

How can you support a side that uses corruption and violence at its core while claiming you dont support it. If you were serious you would not support them purely on principle as you know they are corrupt and violence proned. This is the same as handing someone a gun then saying that you dont support violence when they start to shoot people, you are supporting them therefore you are a part of what they are doing whether you like it or not.

Either you are for the methods they use or you are against them for what they do, you cant have it both ways, do you support the graft the ptp are involved in, do you agree with what they have done in regard to thaksin(passport, returning his money etc), did you think they were ok to do what they did in 2010, do you agree with the way they are letting the reds run what happens(violence,seperation threats, armed rebellion ), do you think they are all above the law of Thailand(court proceedings). Basic questions, any no answers and you still want to support them makes you out a hypocrit whether you agree or not.

I support the Thailand people, not the yellows and the majority of protesters are just that, ordinary thais, not yellows. The red supporters are claiming thay are yellows because it makes them feel righteous, red v yellow, if they had to admit they were not yellows it removes any legitimacy they seem to think they have because it means they are not supporting thais in general but simply thaksin, the ptp and reds over the rest of the country and this is not democracy as it is against the majority of thai people that are not aligned with either side but want responsible govt without the corruption and violence. What is it you want

[metisdead]

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[JamesDean3]

And what is Yingluck dear leader of PT doing about this?

[Morch]

And once again, NO CONSEQUENCE for one's actions. Everyone wonders why people get the audacity to do this, or that. From Sondhi, all the way to this guy now, and the reason is, that they know they ahve a 95% chance of NEVER facing any punishment. They are charismatic loonies and they spit at the law. Very very dangerous people.

Don't recall Sondhi making threats on this level.

Even Seh Daeng wasn't that explicit.

I never said he did. I am saying, that once you set the precedent that people are allowed to strut their stuff around in public and say bascially anything they fancy, with absolutely no consequence, then people will over time get more and more daring, to where they are now.

The whole legal system is a screw up, and NO ONE is held accountable until someone is even remotely accused of insulting the monarchy. Then all bets are off, and the law comes crashing down on you. Just listen to some of the stuff that has come off these collective stages over the last 6 year or so. Disgusting invectice, lies, accusations, and gutter insults. Protests with blood, and barely any consequences for ANYONE. So why not. Just stand up there and talk of sedition and overthrow. Whats the risk?

A sorry state of affairs indeed. No argument about that. Was more pointing out that the limits get pushed further.

The only ways accountability is dealt with seem to be lawsuit or violence.

[newcomer71]

Barking or not, this guy words shows how the situation is well far to a solution.

Whoever will be at power the other faction will only do everything for get the power. There's no easy way out.