Four wounded in Chiang Mai bombing

[ianf]

Sutheps popcorn bandits and henchman.

This guy will stop at nothing. He is a maniac together with the fake monk who is still holding everyone hostage.

But again,this it tit, an it seems that what ever you do if you are connected you can get away with anything.

13 posts eh Uffe? Interesting how we get new posters supporting the Reds, then they disappear after a while. I wonder if they work from home or if it is one person with a myriad of identities? Just joking off course but it seems to me that if you studied the circumstances over the past xx years and if you actually had any humanity or caring about you, you'd know and understand that Thaksin is the danger to Thailand and he is an extremely dangerous man. His reds have been whipped up into a state of hysteria and the consequences are still to be felt. When I walked into a red crowd in Chiang Mai, I could see the hate and rage etched into their faces .....

[ianf]

... another week end stuck in!

Holiday changed to outside of BKK

My friends dont want to visit

My family are worried

What do I do - if it get's worse...

What about the ballet box (Free of bribes to anyone including rice price,,,)

Can anyone tell me - why every one is stabbing everyone in the back

but too affaid to get/ wait for the vote?

Agreed. That's what we need! A ballet box.

If the reds started ballet dancing instead of resorting to violence .....

I can just see Jaturporn in a tu-tu!!!!!

[millwall_fan]

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An off topic obfuscation post has been removed as well as the replies.

Respect to a moderator who uses a word like 'obfuscation'! A quick Google search suggests that 'obfuscation' means 'beclouding or the clouding of the issue';. given that Thai politics is riddled with obfuscation, I wonder you would mind, Metisdead, if we used this highly relevant word much more often in our own posts!

[canuckamuck]

Seems both sides have a motive for basically any type of violence. Time to flush and do-over

[biplanebluey]

These three attacks happened at

1--------Petrol Stn

2-------- A seafood restaurant

3-------A brewery

4------- An anti Govt rally OOOPS--- sorry my mistake

I wonder if any of these are "linked to the present political crisis?" Ya gotta larf

[MK1]

you cant rule out that maybe its a classic red flag thingy:

Red shirts put a few bombs in their own Red Shirt City to anger all the red shirts and blame the yellow shirts,, to help them gain support to come to bangkok and and take to the streets.

maybe they are just trying to gather people to whirl up support.

red flags are one of the most effective ways to get sheep-people to follow a power-obsessed leader.

it does not mean that I am favoring suthep either!! I reckon that he also would do no less!! (and then do some 'wai' poses with a smile to all the cameras).

both sides are wolves in the sheeps clothing.,

The best most balanced rational posting on this subject matter so far. I couldn’t agree more, this series of bombings has been the same as if stirring up a hornets nest.

He blames it squarely on the 'red shirts' and you call that balanced?? Someone needs to buy a dictionary.

I’m sorry to read that you’re upset with myself giving credit to someone who I thought posted a reasonable open and balanced comment.

Perhaps if you prefer to read only Pro-Red opinions to bolster your Ego, you might like to open a Pro-Red only topic on this subject. That way yourself and other fellow Red shirt supporters can pat each other on the back with the same one-sided biased lawless views without interjection from outsiders.

Edited March 23, 2014 by MK1

[stoli]

Logic would dictate that these were caused by anti-government supporters in the supposedly "Red Stronghold". However, this is Thailand, where "logic" has no bearing, so who knows?

But living in CM, this is something I've been expecting to happen, so it's not exactly a surprise.

Edit for Typo

It bewilders me that a fortune teller, such as yourself, (this is something I've been expecting to happen), would even live in the area?

[stoli]

If this happened in the US it would have been the largest terrorist attack since 9/11 and been headline news all around the world with 24/7 coverage, 24 hour lockdowns and curfews in place with house to house searches for all who happen to live nearby.

Have you ever lived in the U.S.? You could not be more off base.....

[lostmebike]

Thank you Mr Suthep for bringing the violence to Thailand.

Suthep brought violence to Thailand? And when did he introduce this??

Don't call me a red sympathizer or any other red related names cos I think they're all crims but the fact is, scare and bully-boy tactics were here long before Suthep.

[stoli]

Thank you Mr Suthep for bringing the violence to Thailand.

Mr Suthep seems to be the only person who has enough b***s to try and save this country from the tyranny of the tacky shin family. You should be grateful that such a person exists and for your info, the government supporters are the ones who have had a near monopoly on violence here against anyone who does not agree with their warped sense of democracy !

There goes the sport section of Thai Visa. Is it now wrong to say BALLS.? I think not.....

[Docno]

you cant rule out that maybe its a classic red flag thingy:

Red shirts put a few bombs in their own Red Shirt City to anger all the red shirts and blame the yellow shirts,, to help them gain support to come to bangkok and and take to the streets.

maybe they are just trying to gather people to whirl up support.

red flags are one of the most effective ways to get sheep-people to follow a power-obsessed leader.

it does not mean that I am favoring suthep either!! I reckon that he also would do no less!! (and then do some 'wai' poses with a smile to all the cameras).

both sides are wolves in the sheeps clothing.,

The best most balanced rational posting on this subject matter so far. I couldn’t agree more, this series of bombings has been the same as if stirring up a hornets nest.

He blames it squarely on the 'red shirts' and you call that balanced?? Someone needs to buy a dictionary.

I’m sorry to read that you’re upset with myself giving credit to someone who I thought posted a reasonable open and balanced comment.

Perhaps if you prefer to read only Pro-Red opinions to bolster your Ego, you might like to open a Pro-Red only topic on this subject. That way yourself and other fellow Red shirt supporters can pat each other on the back with the same one-sided biased lawless views without interjection from outsiders.

You must be a Fox News afficionado if you think that comment was 'reasonable, open and balanced'... that's the channel that opens its broadcasts with the slogan, "Fair and Balanced" then proceeds to spend the rest of day bashing Obama. Look, there have been balanced comments made by other posters here. Those comments are along the lines of: 'the actions of both sides have been unacceptable' or 'we cannot know who's responsible until the investigation is complete', etc etc. I can't see how immediately blaming one side without the slightest shred of evidence can be construed as a "balanced" analysis. It's not about being "pro-Red"--I'm sorry, my view of the world is more complex than that--it's about being objective and waiting for the facts to come in. Thank you

[Docno]

you cant rule out that maybe its a classic red flag thingy:

Red shirts put a few bombs in their own Red Shirt City to anger all the red shirts and blame the yellow shirts,, to help them gain support to come to bangkok and and take to the streets.

maybe they are just trying to gather people to whirl up support.

red flags are one of the most effective ways to get sheep-people to follow a power-obsessed leader.

it does not mean that I am favoring suthep either!! I reckon that he also would do no less!! (and then do some 'wai' poses with a smile to all the cameras).

both sides are wolves in the sheeps clothing.,

"Red flag thingy"?? Perhaps before you start with the tinfoil-hat-theories, you should get your terminology right. I presume you mean false flag "thingy"....

thank you for correcting me... Yes,, False Flag.

in the english language, one says: "thingy" for an unspecific thing.

as I couldnt remember the correct name (at the time of writing), I put "thingy"...

i am pretty sure that everyone who reads it knows what I am talking about...

and understanding is often more important than the actual written words.

but I do find it a bit immature when someone tries to belittle a valid comment (as you have done).

i can remember me and my sister (when we were kids) pretending to be hurt,, so we could get the other one in trouble.

me blaming her for doing something she didnt do.. and then pulling faces at her behind mums back as she was getting told off..

I was 8 or 10 years old!!!!!

if me and my sister (and almost all children on earth) do this as kids... then try amplifying it to an adult educated level!!!

and thats your "false flag"!!

completely valid.

i suppose you also think that every government is perfect too???

dont criticize those to make effort to expose the people that are in power.

they are not so squeaky clean as you imagine.

give power to anyone,, and somewhere down the line it gets corrupted.

The Russian revolution is a perfect example.

if you think you live in a perfect world where the governments dont do false flags and lie through their teeth for hidden agendas, then I pity your way of thinking.

you would be a perfect person (in the governments eyes). so you can wear a sheep costume, while I wear my tin hat (if we are to go for the cliches)

Where do you get, from my post, that I think "every government is perfect"??? That's the kind of logical leap beloved of conspiracy theorists (e.g., the US Air Force did not scramble jets after the first aircraft hit the WTC, therefore the military must have been given a stand down order). Look, I know that false flags do happen, but they are rare because, if discovered, they can shatter the legitimacy of the movement/side that uses them. They are very risky for this reason. This is why I also argued against those who suggested that the attacks on Suthep's people might have been an 'inside' job. Not impossible, but again highly unlikely given the risks involved. Simpler, more logical explanations are usually the correct ones, and it's often the case that 'false flag theorists' simply want to believe 'their side' could do no wrong...

[Anon999]

ptt is a target for suthep's mob in bkk, so possibility, that's why they were chosen as the first to attack. Extremely dangerous, as an explosion of fuel and gas could have killed tens/hundreds of staff, customers and locals

Selective post once again from you. You conveniently forgot to mention that Boonrawd Co.Ltd produce Singha who support the PDRC.

[Nobb]

Red shirts at work and wanting to blame Suthep! So sad.

[MK1]

you cant rule out that maybe its a classic red flag thingy:

Red shirts put a few bombs in their own Red Shirt City to anger all the red shirts and blame the yellow shirts,, to help them gain support to come to bangkok and and take to the streets.

maybe they are just trying to gather people to whirl up support.

red flags are one of the most effective ways to get sheep-people to follow a power-obsessed leader.

it does not mean that I am favoring suthep either!! I reckon that he also would do no less!! (and then do some 'wai' poses with a smile to all the cameras).

both sides are wolves in the sheeps clothing.,

"Red flag thingy"?? Perhaps before you start with the tinfoil-hat-theories, you should get your terminology right. I presume you mean false flag "thingy"....

thank you for correcting me... Yes,, False Flag.

in the english language, one says: "thingy" for an unspecific thing.

as I couldnt remember the correct name (at the time of writing), I put "thingy"...

i am pretty sure that everyone who reads it knows what I am talking about...

and understanding is often more important than the actual written words.

but I do find it a bit immature when someone tries to belittle a valid comment (as you have done).

i can remember me and my sister (when we were kids) pretending to be hurt,, so we could get the other one in trouble.

me blaming her for doing something she didnt do.. and then pulling faces at her behind mums back as she was getting told off..

I was 8 or 10 years old!!!!!

if me and my sister (and almost all children on earth) do this as kids... then try amplifying it to an adult educated level!!!

and thats your "false flag"!!

completely valid.

i suppose you also think that every government is perfect too???

dont criticize those to make effort to expose the people that are in power.

they are not so squeaky clean as you imagine.

give power to anyone,, and somewhere down the line it gets corrupted.

The Russian revolution is a perfect example.

if you think you live in a perfect world where the governments dont do false flags and lie through their teeth for hidden agendas, then I pity your way of thinking.

you would be a perfect person (in the governments eyes). so you can wear a sheep costume, while I wear my tin hat (if we are to go for the cliches)

Where do you get, from my post, that I think "every government is perfect"??? That's the kind of logical leap beloved of conspiracy theorists (e.g., the US Air Force did not scramble jets after the first aircraft hit the WTC, therefore the military must have been given a stand down order). Look, I know that false flags do happen, but they are rare because, if discovered, they can shatter the legitimacy of the movement/side that uses them. They are very risky for this reason. This is why I also argued against those who suggested that the attacks on Suthep's people might have been an 'inside' job. Not impossible, but again highly unlikely given the risks involved. Simpler, more logical explanations are usually the correct ones, and it's often the case that 'false flag theorists' simply want to believe 'their side' could do no wrong...

If you’re the so called role model we should look up to, then why not respect other valued member views and allow them the opportunity to voice their own opinion, without fear of being persecuted and mimicked by you as you have done to the likes “Costa and “easybullet3”.

Rather than playing the self-appointed umpire, why not go out on a limb gives us your opinion on who did it and why? as opposed to posting convoluted views.

[easybullet3]

If this happened in the US it would have been the largest terrorist attack since 9/11 and been headline news all around the world with 24/7 coverage, 24 hour lockdowns and curfews in place with house to house searches for all who happen to live nearby.

Have you ever lived in the U.S.? You could not be more off base.....

Boston Marathon Bombings!!!!

('stoli', I disagree with you)..

"ukrules" is absolutely correct... (maybe a slight exaggeration about some of the things)... but he is pretty much correct.

[anon11]

I live not 2 minutes walk from where the bomb went off almost felt like the appartment was rocking what a mess there was also another one this morning just as loud have been trying to find out where it was as yet no luck I know some of the staff that work at the site of the first bomb they areally lovely young people always happy and laughing very sad for them all

[anon11]

If this happened in the US it would have been the largest terrorist attack since 9/11 and been headline news all around the world with 24/7 coverage, 24 hour lockdowns and curfews in place with house to house searches for all who happen to live nearby.

What's the US got to do with this why mention if this was in the US....... rubbish you are in Thailand if YOU don't like the way investigations are done in Thailand go and live in the US ......in know where I would rather be HERE it's a no brainer........

[anon11]

Red shirts at work and wanting to blame Suthep! So sad.

AH ...so you know for sure it is the red shirts you really know that....you go to their meetings you know about all the planning etc....! ! ! hello

very old saying Mr Nobb

" better to keep one's mouth shut and let people think you are stupid.....than open it and confirm it "

[Docno]

"Red flag thingy"?? Perhaps before you start with the tinfoil-hat-theories, you should get your terminology right. I presume you mean false flag "thingy"....

thank you for correcting me... Yes,, False Flag.

in the english language, one says: "thingy" for an unspecific thing.

as I couldnt remember the correct name (at the time of writing), I put "thingy"...

i am pretty sure that everyone who reads it knows what I am talking about...

and understanding is often more important than the actual written words.

but I do find it a bit immature when someone tries to belittle a valid comment (as you have done).

i can remember me and my sister (when we were kids) pretending to be hurt,, so we could get the other one in trouble.

me blaming her for doing something she didnt do.. and then pulling faces at her behind mums back as she was getting told off..

I was 8 or 10 years old!!!!!

if me and my sister (and almost all children on earth) do this as kids... then try amplifying it to an adult educated level!!!

and thats your "false flag"!!

completely valid.

i suppose you also think that every government is perfect too???

dont criticize those to make effort to expose the people that are in power.

they are not so squeaky clean as you imagine.

give power to anyone,, and somewhere down the line it gets corrupted.

The Russian revolution is a perfect example.

if you think you live in a perfect world where the governments dont do false flags and lie through their teeth for hidden agendas, then I pity your way of thinking.

you would be a perfect person (in the governments eyes). so you can wear a sheep costume, while I wear my tin hat (if we are to go for the cliches)

Where do you get, from my post, that I think "every government is perfect"??? That's the kind of logical leap beloved of conspiracy theorists (e.g., the US Air Force did not scramble jets after the first aircraft hit the WTC, therefore the military must have been given a stand down order). Look, I know that false flags do happen, but they are rare because, if discovered, they can shatter the legitimacy of the movement/side that uses them. They are very risky for this reason. This is why I also argued against those who suggested that the attacks on Suthep's people might have been an 'inside' job. Not impossible, but again highly unlikely given the risks involved. Simpler, more logical explanations are usually the correct ones, and it's often the case that 'false flag theorists' simply want to believe 'their side' could do no wrong...

If you’re the so called role model we should look up to, then why not respect other valued member views and allow them the opportunity to voice their own opinion, without fear of being persecuted and mimicked by you as you have done to the likes “Costa and “easybullet3”.

Rather than playing the self-appointed umpire, why not go out on a limb gives us your opinion on who did it and why? as opposed to posting convoluted views.

1. I don't think I ever claimed I should be a role model ... I certainly don't think I should be.

2. I don't believe that disagreeing with someone or pointing out an apparent flaw in an argument amounts to persecuting someone. I don't think I've tried to mimic (copy or caricture) people here.

3. I am not appointing myself as an 'umpire' of any sort. I'm not sure how I left that impression.

4. I don't see any point in adding to the speculation going on here ... in this case, I don't have an opinion as to who specifically did it. I just doubt it was a 'false flag' operation. [similarly, I don't have an opinion on what happened to the missing Malaysian Airlines flight, but I do doubt that aliens or black holes were involved].

5. Please tell me what is so convoluted about what I have said. I think I've been quite straightforward.

[Loles]

COWARD IDIOTS

[kjhbigv]

Would not be good if a tourist gets hurt or killed and is reported around the world.....not the best tourism advert.

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[Chao Lao Beach]

Smog, bombs..... God, it's enough to make one have a week on the beach.

Oh, wait! We left CM for the clean air on the beach already...... ???

Yeah the pollution up north and around BKK is nasty, in our research we found the air in Chantathaburi the clearest with no factories and lovely beaches where you don't get hassled or covered in chairs.

[kamahele]

Lots of speculation of a political motivation on here without any proof. Could be that, could be a group of a-holes wanting to kill innocent people. Don't see the local PTT station and seafood restaurants as being a big political target.

[connda]

Hand grenades are indiscriminate. If the idiot that lobbed it at the PTT station was trying to make a comment, all that was accomplished was to probably injure 4 red shirt / Thaksin supporters or individuals without any political affiliation who stopped to get gas or snacks. I hope the CCTV got the jackass that tossed that grenade on film.

[connda]

Grenade blasts rattle northern Thai city

BANGKOK, March 22, 2014 (AFP) - A string of grenade blasts shook a northern Thai city popular with foreign tourists, leaving several people wounded in attacks that police said Saturday could be linked to the kingdom's deadly political crisis.

The explosions in Chiang Mai on Friday evening came hours after the Constitutional Court nullified a February general election disrupted by opposition protests, angering government supporters.

The targets were a seafood restaurant, a petrol station and a brewery that has faced criticism because of its controlling family's links with anti-government protesters.

Four people were wounded but were out of danger Saturday and had returned home, Chiang Mai provincial police commander Grit Gitilue said by telephone.

"We established two possible motives for the attacks -- personal conflict or politics. We are giving more weight to the second one," he said, adding that no suspects had been arrested.

Two grenades were also fired near an anti-government rally in the eastern province of Chonburi on Friday evening but nobody was hurt, police said.

The unrest is a blow to efforts to lure back tourists after a state of emergency was recently lifted in Bangkok in response to an easing of months of political violence that has left 23 people dead.

The violence, mostly concentrated in Bangkok, has often targeted opposition protesters seeking to topple Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra's government and install an unelected "people's council" to oversee reforms.

Thailand has been bitterly divided since her elder brother Thaksin Shinawatra was ousted as premier by royalist generals in a 2006 coup.

Yingluck has been charged with negligence in connection with a rice subsidy scheme, and could face impeachment within weeks.

Her supporters, known as the "Red Shirts", have warned that they will not tolerate a "judicial coup" to oust the government through the courts.

The red-clad movement was due to hold a political rally on Saturday evening in the seaside city of Pattaya.

Their mass protests against the previous government in 2010 triggered street clashes and a military crackdown that left more than 90 people dead in the country's worst civil unrest in decades.

Yingluck's Puea Thai Party had been expected to win the February election, which was boycotted by the opposition.

The polls were annulled on the grounds that they were not held nationwide on the same day, due to the disruption by demonstrators.

Parties linked to Thaksin -- who lives in Dubai to avoid prison for corruption -- won every previous election for more than a decade, helped by strong support in the north.

But many southerners and Bangkok residents accuse the Shinawatra family of raiding the public coffers to buy the loyalty of rural voters through populist policies.

-- (c) Copyright AFP 2014-03-22

Let's see how TAT spins this one.

[Choonpon]

To think that one has to count on the possibility of getting blasted while moving around in CM or BKK... where are those peaceful days?