sustento Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Gay people got married in the UK yesterday. The world didn't come to an end. Remarkable! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Was it a Lord and a vicar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 No it was just ordinary gay people. Yesterday was the day that gay marriage became legal in England and Wales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 So are the immigration rules now exactly the same? In other words, to localize, can a gay Brit come over to Thailand and import a Thai male spouse exactly the same as a Thai lady? If so, pressure ... pressure ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) So are the immigration rules now exactly the same? In other words, to localize, can a gay Brit come over to Thailand and import a Thai male spouse exactly the same as a Thai lady? If so, pressure ... pressure ... Immigration rules have been the same since 2004 when civil partnerships became law. A civilly partnered couple have had all the same rights and obligations as a married couple in law since then. The only real difference with gay marriages is the word 'marriage'. http://www.stonewall.org.uk/at_home/immigration_asylum_and_international/2666.asp Edited March 30, 2014 by sustento 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 So are the immigration rules now exactly the same? In other words, to localize, can a gay Brit come over to Thailand and import a Thai male spouse exactly the same as a Thai lady? If so, pressure ... pressure ... Immigration rules have been the same since 2004 when civil partnerships became law. A civilly partnered couple have had all the same rights and obligations as a married couple in law since then. The only real difference with gay marriages is the word 'marriage'. http://www.stonewall.org.uk/at_home/immigration_asylum_and_international/2666.asp I actually suspected as much but wanted confirmation. So the pressure has been on for quite some time. Honey, I do love London in the springtime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I assisted a former employee to get his partner admitted to the UK. The employee returned to the UK with a serious and potentially fatal disease. His partner of 7 years, a Filipino, was working in Thailand. He was allowed to go to the UK on Humanitarian grounds. I don't know if they ever got a civil partnership, but I doubt they will ever marry. The Filipino is a Roman Catholic and marriage would be a big step. There would probably be less objection to a civil partnership. At any rate, they are together and the worst of the former employees disease seems to be over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 So are the immigration rules now exactly the same? In other words, to localize, can a gay Brit come over to Thailand and import a Thai male spouse exactly the same as a Thai lady? If so, pressure ... pressure ... Immigration rules have been the same since 2004 when civil partnerships became law. A civilly partnered couple have had all the same rights and obligations as a married couple in law since then. The only real difference with gay marriages is the word 'marriage'. http://www.stonewall.org.uk/at_home/immigration_asylum_and_international/2666.asp I actually suspected as much but wanted confirmation. So the pressure has been on for quite some time. Honey, I do love London in the springtime! Sorry Jing. I'm already spoken for 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Darn your national health beats Obamacain big time! Sent from my Lenovo S820_ROW using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Im in favour of Gay Marriages, now you can suffer a Divorce like everyone else. Has there been one yet when a partner gets taken to the cleaners on some unfair claim and gets cleaned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Im in favour of Gay Marriages, now you can suffer a Divorce like everyone else. Has there been one yet when a partner gets taken to the cleaners on some unfair claim and gets cleaned out. Doubtful in the U.K. as gay MARRIAGES there just started ... In general yes the legal right to marry opens up the same cans of worms as any marriage. You are correct. Messy divorces, social pressure for couples to marry, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Im in favour of Gay Marriages, now you can suffer a Divorce like everyone else. Has there been one yet when a partner gets taken to the cleaners on some unfair claim and gets cleaned out. We've had civil partnership divorces since 2004 but no famous ones yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Im in favour of Gay Marriages, now you can suffer a Divorce like everyone else. Has there been one yet when a partner gets taken to the cleaners on some unfair claim and gets cleaned out. We've had civil partnership divorces since 2004 but no famous ones yet Yes but no gay divorces from actual marriages. Yes, we know, we know, blah blah blah, legally the same, different word, but best get used to it, Britain is a MARRIAGE EQUALITY nation before and until now, it was not. Yes there is power and meaning in the word change, don't kid yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Im in favour of Gay Marriages, now you can suffer a Divorce like everyone else. Has there been one yet when a partner gets taken to the cleaners on some unfair claim and gets cleaned out. We've had civil partnership divorces since 2004 but no famous ones yet Yes but no gay divorces from actual marriages. Yes, we know, we know, blah blah blah, legally the same, different word, but best get used to it, Britain is a MARRIAGE EQUALITY nation before and until now, it was not. Yes there is power and meaning in the word change, don't kid yourselves. Civil partnerships are still available to those who want them. Gay marriage is not the only option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 great! Sent from my Lenovo S820_ROW using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Im in favour of Gay Marriages, now you can suffer a Divorce like everyone else. Has there been one yet when a partner gets taken to the cleaners on some unfair claim and gets cleaned out. We've had civil partnership divorces since 2004 but no famous ones yet Yes but no gay divorces from actual marriages. Yes, we know, we know, blah blah blah, legally the same, different word, but best get used to it, Britain is a MARRIAGE EQUALITY nation before and until now, it was not. Yes there is power and meaning in the word change, don't kid yourselves. Civil partnerships are still available to those who want them. Gay marriage is not the only option. It's quite funny actually. We originally got civil partnerships because the government of the day were a bit wary of pushing for gay marriages all at once so they invented civil partnerships to stop the religious getting uppity. Now that we have gay marriage AND civil partnerships they're whining that we've got both and it's NOT FAIR!!!" lol Som nam nah! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Im in favour of Gay Marriages, now you can suffer a Divorce like everyone else. Has there been one yet when a partner gets taken to the cleaners on some unfair claim and gets cleaned out.Doubtful in the U.K. as gay MARRIAGES there just started ... In general yes the legal right to marry opens up the same cans of worms as any marriage. You are correct. Messy divorces, social pressure for couples to marry, etc. I remember reading somewhere about the first gay people to get legally married in the U.S. It was some lesbian couple in Vermont or somewhere back East. Anyway, they had this important state court test case challenging the gay marriage ban in their state and they won. They had their celebrated wedding and then like one or two years later got divorced. Kinda funny and ironic.Are you saying gays will face social pressure to get married? From whom...straights relatives and friends, other gays? I would only pressure such people to run like hell from marriage! Edited March 31, 2014 by OMGImInPattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I do think the social pressure will increase from many aspects of society, including most problematically partners within relationships. I think that's a downside. I like the equality of CHOICES but there are always unintended consequences even with positive changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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