British man’s “suicide” at Pattaya condominium

[atyclb]

Could that have been because money problems? No more money? Thai wife get up and leave, man kill self...

Why do people assume that all Thai women marry a man for money? just because a few deluded fools fall for some bar girl who sees money as no 1, i know a guy who is very ill and has little money ,but his wife has nursed and cared for the poor sod for years and will be devastated when he finally goes ,he is her life and she is Thai and from a poor familly.

Are you saying there was no financial disparity / support involved in their relationship? Her standard of living did not improve?

[lostinsurin]

Why the quotes around "suicide" in this topic's title ?

What make you think it could not be a suicide in this case ?

It probably needs the quotes because this is a real case of suicide.

[robert888d]

T.I.T. This is Thailand. Another sad piece of news.

[tonypace02]

If Mr. Atkins were suffering from the agony of 3rd stage colon cancer, no one would criticize his action. Maybe he was suffering a greater emotional pain. It was his choice and I respect it. Suicide is an intelligent, brave, and honorable solution many problems when it is arrived at after careful considerations of all options.

[crazykopite]

Very sad may he be at peace with himself

[sirchai]

It is not clear as yet if he passed-away before he fell or not.

First of all, my deepest condolences. I hope that I'm not the only one who starts to think twice, if he really did that. He was old enough to get over such things that his wife had left him.

It just happens too often and no real criminal actions were taken in the Land of Suicides. Why would I kill myself, if a woman who doesn't love me anymore leaves me?

That's more what younger people might do, as they still have to find out what life's about. Rest in Peace, wherever you are. Cheers.-

[NanLaew]

He was arrested in Pattaya in 2007 for forgery in connection with his visa. I am surprised he was still here despite that.

And what is the value of posting this? The man is dead so unable to defend himself. You state he was 'arrested' but nobody suggests that he was actually charged with anything.

Regarding the separation, some people mention that money may have been a problem. Again, what value in this theorizing? People handle grief and separation in different ways. It is what makes us human.

Show some humanity here.

And that includes TV's rather sensationalist use of quotation marks in the title. Suggesting that it may not be a suicide? Based on what? The knowledge that these quotation marks will drive up the 'hits' and boost revenue?

Show some decency here.

RIP.

You MIGHT be right about a cynical reason for the use of the quotation marks - but you might be wrong. They really could be just a precaution until (if ever) the truth about this poor man's demise is established.

How about,

British man’s apparent suicide at Pattaya condominium

Now, doesn't that take most of the hit-garnering, troll-baiting, sensationalism out of the thread or what?

[lostinsurin]

If Mr. Atkins were suffering from the agony of 3rd stage colon cancer, no one would criticize his action. Maybe he was suffering a greater emotional pain. It was his choice and I respect it. Suicide is an intelligent, brave, and honorable solution many problems when it is arrived at after careful considerations of all options.

Suicide over a woman would normally in my opinion be based on self pity along with the influence of alcohol and not intelligent at all,

I feel sorry for any family left behind.

[NanLaew]

If Mr. Atkins were suffering from the agony of 3rd stage colon cancer, no one would criticize his action. Maybe he was suffering a greater emotional pain. It was his choice and I respect it. Suicide is an intelligent, brave, and honorable solution many problems when it is arrived at after careful considerations of all options.

Suicide is pretty much the most selfish act a human being can carry out.

[gandalf12]

Could that have been because money problems? No more money? Thai wife get up and leave, man kill self...

Why do people assume that all Thai women marry a man for money? just because a few deluded fools fall for some bar girl who sees money as no 1, i know a guy who is very ill and has little money ,but his wife has nursed and cared for the poor sod for years and will be devastated when he finally goes ,he is her life and she is Thai and from a poor familly.

Very well put. Some people seem to put everyone in the same classification. Many, and I mean many, Thai women actually do not get married to a foreigner just for money. Everyone who thinks they do must have a very sad life

[Samaaw]

Very Sad ! May he rest in peace. The secret in life is to love yourself a bit more than those around you (not in a boastful way) - and of course love the Thai's last on the list !

[Samaaw]

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Could that have been because money problems? No more money? Thai wife get up and leave, man kill self...

Why do people assume that all Thai women marry a man for money? just because a few deluded fools fall for some bar girl who sees money as no 1, i know a guy who is very ill and has little money ,but his wife has nursed and cared for the poor sod for years and will be devastated when he finally goes ,he is her life and she is Thai and from a poor familly.

Very well put. Some people seem to put everyone in the same classification. Many, and I mean many, Thai women actually do not get married to a foreigner just for money. Everyone who thinks they do must have a very sad life

Quite agree - but unfortunately Thai's have the reputation of been "gold digger's"

[Gunna]

I don't mean any disrespect to this poor man, but when my Thai wife left me I was really happy as I no longer had to pay off her casino debts incurred to the Thai money lending mafia, no live in fear of my own well being if they weren't paid

[TheReporter]

No wife or husband is worth killing yourself for it. I do not understand why people would go to that great length to end their lives just because they are heart-broken. The truth of the matter is most marriage does not last a life time these days. One just have to learn to accept it and deal with it as part of our modern day life style. Any personal relationship comes and it goes, but once you have ended your life, it will never come back again, so for those of you who are currently in the heart-breaking mode, DO NOT even think twice about ending your miserable life. It is still worth living for - with or wihtout your wife or husband. If nothing else, please remember this.....A GOOD WIFE OR A GOOD HUSBAND WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU, NO MATTER WHAT THE SITUATION IS, HE/SHE WILL ALWAYS FIND WAYS TO WORK THINGS OUT WITH YOU. THE ONE THAT LEAVES YOU IS NOT WORTH KILLING YOURSELF FOR.......

[axact]

Unless you have ever been close to committing suicide you should keep your thoughts to yourself.

I had a friend in Pattaya who was having real depression problems, there is very little help availalble & even if there was some people cannot be helped. He finally opted to go that way despite a lot of imput from others.

I have been close to doing the same, at that point ones brain isnt necessarily functioning normally & maybe for some it is a better alternative to living.

Less judgement and more compassion would be such an improvement if TV contributors could apply them when posting. What do Thais think of falangs when they read posts I wonder ?

[MMarlow]

RIP. - Re wife, there are plenty more where you found the 1st one, don't despair.

Exactly.............there are 800,000 Bar girls in Thailand..........if you want to go down that route

Alternatively do the wise thing and find a respectable girl.......

If you feel that "low".......go to the hospital and visit children with terminal health problems.....and think yourself lucky that you have only a "broken heart"

Or go to the Father Ray foundation and see the smiling faces on the unfortunate disabled people, who are accepting their fate and still enjoying themselves

Or call the Samaritans

RIP

In other words, "stop feeling sorry for yourself"? There is no need for such banal insensitivity, you know nothing of that mans circumstances and clearly have no understanding of the pressure that depression can cause. For all you know his problems may have been worse than those you mentioned.

[MMarlow]

Is that the actual suicide note?

If you read it, obviously not.

[MMarlow]

Stupid man.

You, of course.

[MMarlow]

If Mr. Atkins were suffering from the agony of 3rd stage colon cancer, no one would criticize his action. Maybe he was suffering a greater emotional pain. It was his choice and I respect it. Suicide is an intelligent, brave, and honorable solution many problems when it is arrived at after careful considerations of all options.

Suicide is pretty much the most selfish act a human being can carry out.

Said by someone who knows nothing.

[Phoenix1312]

How sad that a man has to take his life because of heartbreak or money issues. There is always a solution rather than death

[MMarlow]

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Could that have been because money problems? No more money? Thai wife get up and leave, man kill self...

Why do people assume that all Thai women marry a man for money? just because a few deluded fools fall for some bar girl who sees money as no 1, i know a guy who is very ill and has little money ,but his wife has nursed and cared for the poor sod for years and will be devastated when he finally goes ,he is her life and she is Thai and from a poor familly.

Very well put. Some people seem to put everyone in the same classification. Many, and I mean many, Thai women actually do not get married to a foreigner just for money. Everyone who thinks they do must have a very sad life

Quite agree - but unfortunately Thai's have the reputation of been "gold digger's"

Thais in general don't, some of them do.

[MMarlow]

How sad that a man has to take his life because of heartbreak or money issues. There is always a solution rather than death

"There is always a solution..."

How wrong you are.

[laobali]

Stupid man.

More stupid comment.

[Maipenraika]

We will never know why this poor soul chose to end his life,but guys,common,really are these gorgeous girls really in love?

[laobali]

How sad that a man has to take his life because of heartbreak or money issues. There is always a solution rather than death

"There is always a solution..."

How wrong you are.

If not a solution, there are always options, but if they are all considered untenable, then ...

[Wolmac]

What a pity that foreigners end up killing them self after losing their beloved thai wife, thai wife indeed. rest in peace heart broken man.

How do you know she was thai? And thai or not, she might have had good reason to leave him. I have lost a few wife's like that. No need to rest in peace as a result.

[Jip99]

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Why do people assume that all Thai women marry a man for money? just because a few deluded fools fall for some bar girl who sees money as no 1, i know a guy who is very ill and has little money ,but his wife has nursed and cared for the poor sod for years and will be devastated when he finally goes ,he is her life and she is Thai and from a poor familly.

Very well put. Some people seem to put everyone in the same classification. Many, and I mean many, Thai women actually do not get married to a foreigner just for money. Everyone who thinks they do must have a very sad life

Quite agree - but unfortunately Thai's have the reputation of been "gold digger's"

Thais in general don't, some of them do.

If we are being pedantic I would use the classifier "Many".

I believe it to be more accurate than "some" which suggests a minor number.

That is, of course, is irrelevant it is about how the victim felt. It is sad that having lost his "love" he chose suicide as the way forward.

[BillChildress]

Very sad! May he RIP.

[KonKorat]

i was married nearly 25 years when my wife left me,i was shattered,i to nearly went down that path,after 2 weeks of feeling so down,i turned on my computer for the first time in 2 weeks and i met a lovely Thai lady on line,we have been together now for over 5 years,i now wished that my wife left me years earlier.As they say everything happens for a reason.I hope this man didn't take his life for his wife.R.I.P & find happiness in the after life

[peterbkk9]

I feel really sorry for him.

If his wife left him for whatever reason (money or else), then she is not worth dying for.

15 years ago I was between 2 jobs for a year. It just took my Thai wife 6 months to leave me.

Also, why does the local press publish the poor man's suicide note?? This is personal.