ttakata Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) If you look at close up photos of where the rear shock mount is located, you can see all three 125cc bikes have different transmission cases. In particular the X-Max has no radiator on the right side like on the Nouvo and Tricity, it is located up front. So beyond compression; I guess each of these Yamahas has totally different engines. The EU/UK website says X-Max is priced at 3999 pounds, Tricity is 3399 pounds but has 3 wheels. So it makes sense that extra 600 pounds gets you more performance. The Tricity would cost a lot more with the X-Max engine and the frame would need to be rearranged or longer to fit the front radiator. I suppose the product planners will make faster Tricities in the future but for now they are selling the extra wheel, not performance. Edited October 13, 2014 by ttakata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skodo Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 If you look at close up photos of where the rear shock mount is located, you can see all three 125cc bikes have different transmission cases. In particular the X-Max has no radiator on the right side like on the Nouvo and Tricity, it is located up front. So beyond compression; I guess each of these Yamahas has totally different engines. The EU/UK website says X-Max is priced at 3999 pounds, Tricity is 3399 pounds but has 3 wheels. So it makes sense that extra 600 pounds gets you more performance. The Tricity would cost a lot more with the X-Max engine and the frame would need to be rearranged or longer to fit the front radiator. I suppose the product planners will make faster Tricities in the future but for now they are selling the extra wheel, not performance. Just found,The modern and economical engine is a long-stroke 2-valve design for good acceleration from low speeds. Priority in its development was inner-city use, and obviously top speed is lower than for example an X-Max which has a more expensive 4-valve design. Tricity features Yamaha’s YMJET-FI system with an extra air passage directly to the injector to improve combustion efficiency. The system uses 3D digital mapping and controls both fuel injection and ignition timing, and includes a 3-way catalyser built into the muffler. Fuel consumption is remarkably low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 "...3D digital mapping..." I wonder what that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Took a 360km RT ride to BKK and back this weekend. Hit 1k kms and time for my first oil change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 BTW... Synthetic or regular oil? Advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Tricity... I don't like the look of it. Make the driver look... errr... "overly cautious" for staying polite. And the reason why I prefer the Nouvo Elegance over the PCX is squeezing between stopped cars in traffic as well as squeezing into tight parking spaces. So the tricity gets a triple no from me. Except for a shorter braking, I can't see the alleged security improvement. Does really so many of you fall over with their bike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantan Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 BTW... Synthetic or regular oil? Advice? If you ask for it, here my advice: regular "Jaso MB" oil (for automatic engines). Change it regularly and you are fine. I use Yamalube for my Nouvo SX, but any brand name oil should do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttakata Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 I know someone that didn't change his Nouvo Elegance's oil for 3 years of regular use! That makes me think regular oil is OK at the recommended intervals but if you want to splurge on synthetic; no harm there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Tricity... I don't like the look of it. Make the driver look... errr... "overly cautious" for staying polite. And the reason why I prefer the Nouvo Elegance over the PCX is squeezing between stopped cars in traffic as well as squeezing into tight parking spaces. So the tricity gets a triple no from me. Except for a shorter braking, I can't see the alleged security improvement. Does really so many of you fall over with their bike? Awesome!! I never even considered either of the bikes you talked about. The Tricity is the only scooter I considered as the others look like toys to me. Next bike will be a Lifan 200 Cross. After that an import cruiser. Which shows.... We all have different tastes in bikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Tricity... I don't like the look of it. Make the driver look... errr... "overly cautious" for staying polite. And the reason why I prefer the Nouvo Elegance over the PCX is squeezing between stopped cars in traffic as well as squeezing into tight parking spaces. So the tricity gets a triple no from me. Except for a shorter braking, I can't see the alleged security improvement. Does really so many of you fall over with their bike? Awesome!! I never even considered either of the bikes you talked about. The Tricity is the only scooter I considered as the others look like toys to me. Next bike will be a Lifan 200 Cross. After that an import cruiser. Which shows.... We all have different tastes in bikes. I agree with both you guys. I guess I'm less concerned about how I look to others than you though, Man. Being 'over cautious' (chicken-shiit? ) seems okay considering the objective dangers associated with riding here. Over the years I've dumped my rides many a time... got me there!. Hopefully never again. Agreed, my SX is swell for lane cutting, as are any of the narrower rides. My TC is a tub. Cannot man-handle it is the parking structure for beans. But smooth on the road; a trade-off I guess. We are truly blessed with having so may great inexpensive options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Parked at work. Those stickers speed me on my way through checkpoints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the jungle Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 "...3D digital mapping..." I wonder what that means. 2D digital mapping is where ignition timing and volume of fuel injected are determined by two data inputs (rpm and throttle position most commonly). 3D digital mapping is where ignition timing and volume of fuel injected are determined by more than two data inputs, Addition data inputs used could include oil temperature, air temperature, rate of change of throttle position, manifold vacuum etc etc. The list of potential data inputs in a 3D system is huge but on a Yamaha Tricity it is likely to be a simple system, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Just got a standard oil change. Changed the transmission fluid as well. 260thb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 is there any up-sell to flog a tyre-rotation every 10,000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Not that I have been offered. Question : Has anyone ever had one front tire blow out? How did you get it to a shop to replace it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I've never had a tire blow on the Tricity nor any other vehicle I've operated since 1965. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I've never had a tire blow on the Tricity nor any other vehicle I've operated since 1965. Wow!! I blow (or lose total pressure) at least one a year!! (yes I maintain them and check pressure weekly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttakata Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 Wow, you have some bad luck with tires. I think in my entire life over 2-300K miles I've only had 2 car tires get punctured, one valve blow out, and 2 bike tires get punctures. Once a year would drive me nuts. On a different note, here's my mileage report using a free app called Fillup on Android. Seems to fluctuate a lot since my riding can get aggressive. My tires are always at the recommended or higher psi. I am lucky my Michelin Citygrips and 90 degree tire valves were properly installed and keep most of their pressure. In 1 month I think I lose ~3-5psi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 somehow looks cool ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 uneven road or speed bumps look to be no problem ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I live in the countryside and after 1.5 months my bike has 4k kms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 uneven road or speed bumps look to be no problem ?? 1396801654-DSC08505JP-o.jpg No problem for the front wheels but the rear wheel is typical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 is there any up-sell to flog a tyre-rotation every 10,000? Probably few TCs have reached 10,000km yet in Thailand. The front tire diameter differs from the rear. If a front tire flattens, you could use the same method to reach a garage as you would use on a 2-wheeler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I've never had a tire blow on the Tricity nor any other vehicle I've operated since 1965. Wow!! I blow (or lose total pressure) at least one a year!! (yes I maintain them and check pressure weekly) I was following a truck once that blew a tire. Loud & hunks of rubber flying everywhere. Blowing a tire and losing pressure by leakage are definitely not the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I've never had a tire blow on the Tricity nor any other vehicle I've operated since 1965.Wow!!I blow (or lose total pressure) at least one a year!! (yes I maintain them and check pressure weekly) I was following a truck once that blew a tire.Loud & hunks of rubber flying everywhere. Blowing a tire and losing pressure by leakage are definitely not the same thing. I have done both. Come out from work to a flat, and blown a tire at speed. ( a bit scary) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Trying to find out via searching on Google.. What Licence ? appears anything more than 2 wheels you need a Thai car licence ? other say both car or motorbike licence is accepted.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Wow! Motorcycles have green-books. Cars have blue-books. TC has green-book. I would infer from this that mocy DL is acceptable for TC. If a car license is acceptable for a TC, is it acceptable for a Nouvo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Type 3 - Private three-wheel vehicle: This licence is issued to those who wish to drive three-wheel vehicle Type 6 - Motorcycle: This licence is issued to those who wish to drive motorcycle. license is acceptable for a TC, is it acceptable for a Nouvo?....... No idea that is why I am asking.. anyone with a TC has a Type 3 or a Type 6 Licence ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Strictly an opinion, but an informed opinion. A motorcycle license is all that is needed. The three wheeler license is strictly for tuktuks and not for motorcycles even with sidecars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Ignis: Looking ay my motorcycle DL, I can't find any 'Type 6' designation thereon. What document are you referencing? JD: I agree with you but curious about the source of information you used to come to the opinion. I've heard that side-cars are not really legal either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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