Yingluck says she is ready to quit politics if it’s the need of majority

[manxninja]

If she stays or goes it makes no difference.

Red will be in power for the foreseeable future, unless you make issan a separate state that is.

Would you want the yellow in , personally I wouldn't .

[Eddy B]

I love the peace symbol she is wearing as a necklace, was she adviced to wear it or did she choose it herself..............????

[useronthenet]

Any decent person with an ounce of scruples would step-down and do the decent thing, but this is Thailand and everything is up for grabs so long as you have the power, and very deep pockets.

I don't even know if many even understand what the 'true' meaning of democracy is, just a fancy word that politicians like to use.

What this country lacks is a great leader … one with the qualities of somebody that is truly sincere, with morals and integrity. Somebody that has earned the respect of the people, who has accomplished a great deal through hard fought political prowess. Alas, we are still waiting for such a person to lead the country … we can only hope that one day that dream might turn out to be true.

[55Jay]

[Skywalker69]

Sounds like a great idea, let's have an election and if the Dems win then Yinluck steps down.

All we need is for the Dems to allow an election. Doh

All we need is for the Dems to allow an election.

??????

[DrTuner]

There really should be two votes per head, one plus, one minus. She wouldn't be elected in that system, ending up in plus would already be a surprise.

[Gunna]

The revolution of the puppet?

"Caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra said Tuesday that she has not discussed with her family and elder brother Thaksin Shinawatra on taking a break from politics"

Isnt it clear enough already that the majority of people arent behind her now? There is no IF, only when, and the sooner the better.

There was never a majority of people who voted for PT in the first place ( around 48% ) and after a few months of ineptitude it was time for her and the scammer in Dubai to be kicked out. Unfortunately Thailand has had to suffer 3 years of incompetence - the only thing PT have been good at is corruption, nepotism and grand theft, and giving a convicted and escaped criminal a new passport..

[heybruce]

Semester - I would not say it is obvious.

It has been proven before that the PTP don't respect the majority or the minority or the general public as a whole for that matter if it does not suit their agenda.

Majority Disrespect - The Amnesty Bill was not wanted by the majority. Pushed through anyway. The 2007 constitution was wanted by the majority. Denounced by the 1992 coup maker, thaksin. Farmers wanted to protest for payments and told they were hooligans and their families were threatened with intimidation.

Minority disrespect - You will get a convention centre in Phuket when you vote for us. Disallowing DEM's to debate in parliament.

Public disrespect - "We will not hold public water hearings for the 350 billion baht water management scheme.", "Protestors in Chaing Mai better watch out. You are garbage."

Look no further than TVF for this lack of respect for any decision or ruling that goes against the PTP.

For goodness sake, if the NACC and courts rule against the PTP they are alluring to starting a civil war. So rest assured if they loose an election it will no longer be the rosy "majority" narrative. It will be a refusal to leave. Claims of a DEM plot. A biased EC cheating the votes. The PDRC double voting. Anything, but an acceptance of the reality that they have not won.

If anything goes against the PTP agenda it will not be accepted.

"The 2007 constitution was wanted by the majority"

where you get that ??? who was the majority ? please the yellows/dems had never a majority , only within the post coup (non elected) government, so please stop posting if you don't know the facts.

Feel free to remove that sentence and read the remainder. All still valid.

BTW the referendum vote was 57.81% FOR the 2007 constitution. However as stated feel free to remove that sentence and re-read the post.

Your comment is amusing however as you inadvertently highlighted that I am correct in what I said.

That being;

If anything goes against the PTP agenda it will not be accepted.

That's right, given a choice between continued military rule and the badly flawed constitution, an underwhelming majority chose the constitution.

[heybruce]

For the enlightenment of those who think all PTP supporters are stupid, I'll repeat something I posted on another thread:

Let's insert some pertinent facts into this discussion.

When Thaksin took office 90% of government investment took place in Bangkok http://www.economist...gration-way-out. Thaksin correctly saw this as a wide open door to political power, so he promised government investment in the north and northeast, easily won election, and kept his promise. He also worked to make his family richer, but since voters in the north and northeast were accustomed to corrupt politicians and thrilled to have one that worked for their interests, they didn't care.

By 2012 Bangkok's share of government investment was down to 72% http://www.worldbank...t-review-report. This still meant the per capita government investment in Bangkok was more than 12 times per capita investment in the rest of the country, but people in Bangkok were clearly outraged by this "fall" (actually a modest increase when you factor in growth of the economy). For this reason they enthusiastically support leaders such as Suthep who call government spending outside of Bangkok "undemocratic populism".

The people in the north and northeast, along with the World Bank, disagree; there is a need to further increase investment in the undeveloped parts of the country, and in the process reduce regional disparities in government spending http://www-wds.world...ster0120501.pdf. The "buffaloes" in the north and northeast know this, the people living in the Bangkok bubble seem to be ignorant of it. Giving voters a party that will work for the interests of the majority and provides an alternative to the incompetent PTP is a smart move politically and a step forward for the country.

So the people who voted for Thaksin and his various parties are not stupid, they are voting in their interests. Even after all the corruption and incompetence the government investment that made it into the badly neglected north and northeast represented a significant improvement over the pre-Thaksin days. Suthep describes money spent outside of Bangkok as undemocratic populism, and the Democrats don't disagree. This gives the majority in the north and northeast the impression that the Democrats want to return to the bad old days when 90% of government investment went to Bangkok and the rest of the country received a pittance.

Of course Bangkok voters who want all the government's resources lavished on them will vote for a return to what they see as the good old days, but they are in the minority.

Don't get me wrong, I agree that the PTP is corrupt, though that's normal for Thailand, and that Yingluck is incompetent. I hope the PTP loses the next election and the Shinawatras get out of politics. But anyone who thinks this will result in the Democrats winning a majority has a poor grasp of reality.

[hgma]

Best for us to keep a low profile in public.

The sentiment i read is one of warning signs when even the Bangkok Post start printing articles with nationalist propaganda AND reference to the

Foreigners who ' complain about .......so if they don't like it here.......Goodby.....' sort of messaging, then for me,having experienced 2 bloody confrontation over the last 20 years, for me its time to retreat@home, not engaging in election/politic issues and enjoy my quality time in LOS.

[MB1]

Yingluck will quit politics when big brother tells her to do so and tells her to go on another shopping spree.... Just my opinion of course...

[The stuttering parrot]

Elections and a referendums

What's wrong with that?

I see the northern thai bashing is alive and well.!

You see that superior attitude is excatly why the yellow / dems are so on the outer with the electorate .

And the latest bully boy tactics down at the EC does nothing for the dems cause.

Instead of letting sutep run the show the dems should break free of his demands of appointing his rich mates.

There was a small opening for abilsit to make a case down at the EC well at least have something to say and put his thoughts but pulling out at the last minute showed him to be weak.

I don't know what security he was worried about the monk was there and bus loads of yellows.

[Jingthing]

Enough with the foreplay ... so quit already!

[tezzainoz]

All you need isfor the dems to win...

and for a few million numpty's up north to grow brains overnight.

All you need is for Dems to win.

You have more chance of nailing Jelly to the ceiling.

If you live in Thailand you would be saying

"Let The Party Best for Thailand to win"

now show us what you will do to make his happen

No BS Promises like the last election, unless you intend to use your own money

Open Government so the Thais can see what going on behind the scenes

Open books that can be seen by the people

and open elections where a Thai person is free to state his polices ANY WHERE IN THAILAND

A Party that obeys the rules

Not a party who changes the rules

Edited April 22, 2014 by tezzainoz

[tezzainoz]

If she stays or goes it makes no difference.

Red will be in power for the foreseeable future, unless you make issan a separate state that is.

Would you want the yellow in , personally I wouldn't .

Then using the logic of your posting

Time for you to move North

Then we all will be happy

[Rooo]

A post altering a quote & another quoting it have been deleted.

Do not alter member quotes, next instance suspension will be issued.

15) Do not make changes to quoted material that changes the intended meaning of the quoted post

[noitom]

"If it's the needs of the majority." She represents the majority - so logic follow this Thai "if." Thais are great for ifs, ands, buts. becauses, and as long as.

[webfact]

POLITICS
Yingluck to leave politics if country wants it; hasn't raised issue with Thaksin
The Nation



BANGKOK: -- Caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra said yesterday she is ready to step down if the people want her out, but added that she had not discussed the possibility of quitting politics with her brother, ex-prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, or other members of her family.

Yingluck was responding to reports in which Thaksin aide Noppadon Pattama quoted the former premier as saying he was ready to "sacrifice his family" by ending its political career so the country can emerge from the political impasse and move forward.

Earlier this year, Yingluck dismissed reports that Thaksin would have her step down as prime minister. Observers now believe Thaksin's latest move was intended to test the waters, but the anti-government group led by Suthep Thaugsuban has brushed aside his proposal.

Asked if she had ever thought of taking a break from politics, Yingluck said, "I have said that I am not attached to my post if that is what the country wants. What is important is [that my leaving politics] must bring about peace and that all sides will follow the rule of law," she said.

Yingluck refused to answer whether she would request an audience with His Majesty the King soon to report on the country's current situation, though she did say that it was one of her duties.

The caretaker prime minister is being investigated by the National Anti-Corruption Commission for alleged dereliction of duty over the government's loss-making and corruption-plagued rice-pledging scheme.

She is also accused of malfeasance in a case being heard by the Constitutional Court in connection with her transfer of National Security Council secretary-general Thawil Pliensri.

Democrat Party deputy spokesman Jurin Laksanawisit said if Thaksin meant he wanted to wash his hands of politics, he should back up his claim by closing his war room in Hong Kong, returning to serve his jail term, ordering the government and supporters to accept rulings by independent agencies and dropping any ideas of passing amnesty bills.


-- The Nation 2014-04-23

[CNXTim]

So when Mr T said he would would withdraw his family from politics he meant another family member? Right now i see ...

Get those credit cards warmed up Y I can see a big conciliatory Paris shopping spree on the horizon. But make it to Swampy real fast..

[MaxLee]

That will not be her decision anyway, and if so,... it makes things even worst, because the hardcore red brigade will start blaming EVERYBODY in Thailand and in the FALANG WORLD, in other words,... the hardcore red brigade would go nuts in a lethal way across Thailand....

[thesetat2013]

Even though the last election was made void the votes and no votes clearly showed that the majority did not want YL to be PM anymore.

Since the major reason the protest began was due to YL and her admin it seems a reasonable assumption that with her and her family gone from politics that the protests will end. So YL! Your 2 conditions have been met already. Why are you still there clinging to office if what you said in this OP was true. Leave while you still can and are still free to remain in Thailand. This OP is total BS. YL will never leave until another PTP member gets control. If another party wins she will run north to try run the Gov there seperate from the rest of Thai. Thak will not let his only chances to return here slip through his fingers.

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[notmyself]

If she stays or goes it makes no difference.

Red will be in power for the foreseeable future, unless you make issan a separate state that is.

Would you want the yellow in , personally I wouldn't .

When you become an adult you will discover that elections (anywhere) are in no way based on who is the best but rather on who is the least worst. You will in time realize that on a binary question such as having your foot amputated against having your whole leg amputated, just having your foot amputated is the least worst.

[djjamie]

Semester - I would not say it is obvious.

It has been proven before that the PTP don't respect the majority or the minority or the general public as a whole for that matter if it does not suit their agenda.

Majority Disrespect - The Amnesty Bill was not wanted by the majority. Pushed through anyway. The 2007 constitution was wanted by the majority. Denounced by the 1992 coup maker, thaksin. Farmers wanted to protest for payments and told they were hooligans and their families were threatened with intimidation.

Minority disrespect - You will get a convention centre in Phuket when you vote for us. Disallowing DEM's to debate in parliament.

Public disrespect - "We will not hold public water hearings for the 350 billion baht water management scheme.", "Protestors in Chaing Mai better watch out. You are garbage."

Look no further than TVF for this lack of respect for any decision or ruling that goes against the PTP.

For goodness sake, if the NACC and courts rule against the PTP they are alluring to starting a civil war. So rest assured if they loose an election it will no longer be the rosy "majority" narrative. It will be a refusal to leave. Claims of a DEM plot. A biased EC cheating the votes. The PDRC double voting. Anything, but an acceptance of the reality that they have not won.

If anything goes against the PTP agenda it will not be accepted.

"The 2007 constitution was wanted by the majority"

where you get that ??? who was the majority ? please the yellows/dems had never a majority , only within the post coup (non elected) government, so please stop posting if you don't know the facts.

Feel free to remove that sentence and read the remainder. All still valid.

BTW the referendum vote was 57.81% FOR the 2007 constitution. However as stated feel free to remove that sentence and re-read the post.

Your comment is amusing however as you inadvertently highlighted that I am correct in what I said.

That being;

If anything goes against the PTP agenda it will not be accepted.

That's right, given a choice between continued military rule and the badly flawed constitution, an underwhelming majority chose the constitution.

You wanted to know what majority voted for it. I told you. I can even link it if you like?

Like I said ignore that one sentence and read the remainder if you cannot accept THAT majority.

[Ricardo]

Feel free to remove that sentence and read the remainder. All still valid.

BTW the referendum vote was 57.81% FOR the 2007 constitution. However as stated feel free to remove that sentence and re-read the post.

Your comment is amusing however as you inadvertently highlighted that I am correct in what I said.

That being;

If anything goes against the PTP agenda it will not be accepted.

That's right, given a choice between continued military rule and the badly flawed constitution, an underwhelming majority chose the constitution.

57.81% is "an underwhelming majority", whereas 48.4% of the proportional vote in July-2011 is frequently claimed by Red-leaning posters, as 'an overwhelming majority of the country' ?

Funny old thing, statistics, aren't they ?

In my view the military-appointed government did democracy a service, for all their other faults or mistakes, in establishing the principle that serious changes to the Constitutionj need to be ratified by a national-referendum, setting a better minimum-standard for governance in Thailand.

Better than 4am-votes in Parliament, with opposition-speakers barred from having their say, as 'true democracy' turned out to mean.

I personally wish the Dems would now participate, in a re-run election, and that whoever does get elected carries out a proper constitutional-change process after their election. Yingluck has also said she feels reform is needed, let's hope she doesn't forget that, if she does eventually get re-elected. That's if her brother doesn't negotiate her away, as part of his on-going deals, to gain his pardon/amnesty and return.

[Cricketnut]

Strange how she is parroting her brother, the convicted criminal. Yingluck said, "that she has not discussed with her family and elder brother Thaksin Shinawatra on taking a break from politics, but she said she is ready to do so if it is the need of the majority of the people". The darling of Issan clarified this comment when she said the new election must be held as soon as possible so that a new Thaksin proxy government could be formed to run the country, restore corruption of public funds and make favourable judicial decisions.

Stop twisting the statement, she said quote a new government needed to be formed! Now if the Dems had their crap together and participated it may happen. Always look on the bright side of life comes to mind. (Life of Brian).

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[Cricketnut]

Even though the last election was made void the votes and no votes clearly showed that the majority did not want YL to be PM anymore.

Since the major reason the protest began was due to YL and her admin it seems a reasonable assumption that with her and her family gone from politics that the protests will end. So YL! Your 2 conditions have been met already. Why are you still there clinging to office if what you said in this OP was true. Leave while you still can and are still free to remain in Thailand. This OP is total BS. YL will never leave until another PTP member gets control. If another party wins she will run north to try run the Gov there seperate from the rest of Thai. Thak will not let his only chances to return here slip through his fingers.

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Separate from Thailand? Dream on brother.

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[Dr Bruce]

Semester - I would not say it is obvious.

It has been proven before that the PTP don't respect the majority or the minority or the general public as a whole for that matter if it does not suit their agenda.

Majority Disrespect - The Amnesty Bill was not wanted by the majority. Pushed through anyway. The 2007 constitution was wanted by the majority. Denounced by the 1992 coup maker, thaksin. Farmers wanted to protest for payments and told they were hooligans and their families were threatened with intimidation.

Minority disrespect - You will get a convention centre in Phuket when you vote for us. Disallowing DEM's to debate in parliament.

Public disrespect - "We will not hold public water hearings for the 350 billion baht water management scheme.", "Protestors in Chaing Mai better watch out. You are garbage."

Look no further than TVF for this lack of respect for any decision or ruling that goes against the PTP.

For goodness sake, if the NACC and courts rule against the PTP they are alluring to starting a civil war. So rest assured if they loose an election it will no longer be the rosy "majority" narrative. It will be a refusal to leave. Claims of a DEM plot. A biased EC cheating the votes. The PDRC double voting. Anything, but an acceptance of the reality that they have not won.

If anything goes against the PTP agenda it will not be accepted.

"The 2007 constitution was wanted by the majority"

where you get that ??? who was the majority ? please the yellows/dems had never a majority , only within the post coup (non elected) government, so please stop posting if you don't know the facts.

Feel free to remove that sentence and read the remainder. All still valid.

BTW the referendum vote was 57.81% FOR the 2007 constitution. However as stated feel free to remove that sentence and re-read the post.

Your comment is amusing however as you inadvertently highlighted that I am correct in what I said.

That being;

If anything goes against the PTP agenda it will not be accepted.

That's right, given a choice between continued military rule and the badly flawed constitution, an underwhelming majority chose the constitution.

Let me know when they release to real figures from the failed Feb 2 poll instead of all of the guesses.

You continue to make assumptions from flawed information taken from a flawed poll. PTP and it's predecessors have won and will win every free election for many years. Get used to it, this country is moving forward to freedom and democracy and the old ways of control are not working any more.

Let the Thai people have an election and see what they really want.

I believe that they will want freedom and democracy. You seem to believe that will put up with judicial coups and gerrymandering.

[ezzra]

As long as there's gold in them hills and the chance reaping mega baht from being in politics,

those Shinawatra vultures clan will be in the game no matter what they say,

I just can't imagine them retiring sitting around the camp fire singing Kumbaya my lord Kumbaya ...

[Lupatria]

It appears to me pretty arrogant if the criminal fugitive (not self exiled) announced he will pull out of politics.

He still does not realize that he is not privileged to be in Thai politics in the first place.

It’s like a shipwrecked man swimming in the ocean announcing he is giving up smoking!

[gemini81]

All words no action, as usual from this woman. Please follow through for once! The country is a better place without her; or as the locals put it, 'heavy on the land': a person who is useless for their country.

Edited April 23, 2014 by gemini81