I would love some advice from anyone who may know what i should do in this confusing situation...

Im australian but have been here in thailand for quiet a while on all sorts of tourist visa and now due to some confusion with my last visa my current one is due to expire about 1 week after my baby is due which is going to make it pretty hard to do a visa run (I may still be in the hospital bed even)

I know after the baby is born I can apply for a spouse visa but have to have the birth cert and a few other things first which im guessing will take longer than the 1 week i have.

does anybody know if they do special visa exceptions for people in this type of situation or people who end up in hospital while their visa expires ect.

I know we make exceptions for everyoneeee trying to live in australia but I have no idea about the rules here or who to even ask.

immigration at patong couldnt give me an answer because they couldnt understand what i needed to know

immigration at phuket town...same deal

australian embassy thailand....also dont know they say ask immigration

thai embassy sydney....say ask in thailand because they seem to change the rules daily anyway

thai embassy canberra...say same thing as sydney embassy

So im really running out of people to ask haha hopefully someone here can help me.

Thanks in advance

You can get a medical extension if your doctor/hospital declare you unfit for travel.

From Police order 777/2551

2.25 In the case of medical treatment or convalescence or to look after a patient:

Permission will be granted for a period of not more than 90 days at a time.

(1) Confirmation and request has been made by a physician responsible for the treatment. The Physician must describe the details of treatment and advised that the illness is a barrier for traveling.
(2) In the case of looking after a patient, confirmation and request has been made by the physician responsible for the treatment or by an embassy or consulate.
(3) Patient Carer, except parents, spouse, children, adopted children or children of spouse, shall be granted no more than 1 extra person.

As above.

What makes you believe a "spouse" visa will be obtainable with the babies birth certificate + "a few other things"

Are you married to a Thai ?

You can easily get the extension for being pregnant. Just have your doctor write a letter stating you cannot travel. That will also apply after delivery for a period of time.

An explanation about the reason for getting a "spouse visa" after birth would be helpful..

You can try contacting these guys in Adelaide. The chap there is very good and very helpful.

http://www.royalthaiconsulate.org.au/

Also there's the forum sponsors who do visas may be worth contacting. They seem to know they're stuff, can't remember the name of them sorry.

Gee don't be silly and leave the options until the last minute.

You need a definate answer. Not a guessing game.

I suppose worst case is you have to pay a visa overstay fine.

Edited April 26, 201412 yr by krisb

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You can try contacting these guys in Adelaide. The chap there is very good and very helpful.

http://www.royalthaiconsulate.org.au/

I have to ask if you knew this issue was going to happen, why leave it all this late? Surely you would have considered the problems long ago.

With respect some of the worst and most inaccurate information about immigration/visa/extensions of stay etc is provided by Consulates/Embassies.

You cannot get a "spouse" vise, unless you are married. But you might be able to get a non-O visa based on being the mother of a Thai national.

After the baby is born you should get a Thai birth certificate, listing the nationality of the baby as Thai based on the father. That will establish his Thai nationality and enable you to get a non-O visa as the mother of the child.

Extensions of stay based on the cild for year are possible if you have an income of 40,000 a month OR 400,000 baht in a bank account in your name.

You can try contacting these guys in Adelaide. The chap there is very good and very helpful.

http://www.royalthaiconsulate.org.au/

Also there's the forum sponsors who do visas may be worth contacting. They seem to know they're stuff, can't remember the name of them sorry.

Gee don't be silly and leave the options until the last minute.

You need a definate answer. Not a guessing game.

I suppose worst case is you have to pay a visa overstay fine.

There is no guessing game at the moment. We gave her the correct advice. Pregnant women have gotten the medical extension before and even for months prior to delivery.

I think asking an honorary Thai consulate about immigration issues would not be advisable at all.

Edit: In response to your edit. She certainly does not need legal advise nor the expense of it to get the extension.

I'd suggest the OP visit her local Immigration office and ask what documents they require from the doctor/hospital for her to obtain a medical extension for her visa. In Chiang Mai, it's not as simple as a "doctor's letter". There's also a form from Immigration that the doctor must complete. It's something they dreamed up in the local office, it's not an official T.M. form. Also, they're very picky about wanting a stamp from the hospital or clinic, not just the doctor's signature. They've sent me back to the hospital to obtain these things. Don't assume the doctor knows what Immigration will require, either. Normally, they'll just give you the medical report that satisfies employers, thinking it should work for Immigration, also. It doesn't It's impertive that the statement the doctor signs says you can't travel for XX days due to medical reasons. The XX days can be up to 90 days. That will be a maximum of 90 days from when the doctor signs the letter, not 90 days from when your visa expires.

Edited April 26, 201412 yr by NancyL

Attached letter did the job for Immigration, a booked Thai hotel and two intl. carriers, at least it did for a friend of mine, although the secretary’s/doctor’s English could still be improved.

Especially important is that the letter carries a stamp, a readable signature and the doctor’s position.

Queen Sirikit Heart Center.pdf

As a spouse, you can only get an extension of stay if married to are Thai citizen, or your foreign national husband is already on some sort of extension of stay.

You don't make it clear if you are married to the father, or what nationality he is. Being born in Thai soil doesn't automatically confer Thai nationality on a child, and the child must be legitimised under Thai law if the father is Thai and unmarried if the child is to receive Thai nationality as i understand it.

But if you are married you could have applied for it the second after you got married, and your child will automatically be Thai if married to a Thai father.

If not married, the birth won't change anything.

Edited April 26, 201412 yr by samran

Make sure the baby has the fathers name on the birth certificate.

Some of the more seasoned members can correct me but being born in Thailand to a foreign mother does not mean auto Thai Citizenship. Unlike the USA for instance where being born there grants you the right to US citizenship

Sage and very useful advice was given by the esteemed members above, but the addressing the

gorilla in the room issue, why would any one in his or her infinite wisdom leave such important

matter to the last minute?

Just get a letter from the doctor overseeing your birth. I recently got my visa extended without having to leave so that I could look after my wife who had gone through a traumatic birth.

Not sure if it helps, but I just asked my Thai son (his wife is Thai) how long it took to get birth certificates for his two daughters. Response:

- 1st daughter, now 9 years old, born in Bkk - government hospital provide the documents needed for birth certificate within a couple of hours of birth, no hassles whatever, then went to local amphur office, birth certificate issued on the spot, all completed within 1 hour, no complications whatever.

- 2nd daughter, now 2.5 years old, born in Chiang Mai, born in private hospital, rest of details as just above.

Edited April 26, 201412 yr by scorecard

It seems Louise77 hasn't bothered to post addn'l info to clarify the issue - something I've noticed on other threads - after the original question is posed the OP has an attention span lapse and multiple replies are added and OP never returns to the thread.

Of course, she may wait until last minute to read and respond as she did to post. However, one would think that a reply concerning an upcoming birth would important.... unless she is now in hospital....

Is this what is called trolling?

Congratulations and all the best for the upcoming birth.

Perhaps the Aus Embassy can assist with some consular advice and connections with the Thai govt, your situation is unique. Regardless - whatever is posted on this site is mainly postulation. Given Thai immigration is highly individual specific for complex cases, you may have some bum steers here only because the individual you end up dealing with has a different view.

Go to immigration if you can and get some advice there if you can pre birth.

All the beast for a safe pending delivery!

Is good if Louise 77 makes some replies of this helpful people here...and be thankful

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You can try contacting these guys in Adelaide. The chap there is very good and very helpful.

http://www.royalthaiconsulate.org.au/

I have to ask if you knew this issue was going to happen, why leave it all this late? Surely you would have considered the problems long ago.

With respect some of the worst and most inaccurate information about immigration/visa/extensions of stay etc is provided by Consulates/Embassies.

Not this guy. He is excellent. Worked at the embassy in Bkk for years and years, moved back to Australia when you couldn't hold 2 passports, he didn't want to become a Thai citizen, works in the Thai consul in Oz for another 20 years. Every time I have asked him any questions, it was always valuable information, no hesitation or guessing.

Worst information I have gotten always comes from DIAC. Never the 2 same answers, always they have to get some manager to check if they are right.

If you doubt me, think of a question, ring him, and ask to speak to the Consul General. Guarantee he knows the answer. Phone numbers on the link.

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You can try contacting these guys in Adelaide. The chap there is very good and very helpful.

http://www.royalthaiconsulate.org.au/

I have to ask if you knew this issue was going to happen, why leave it all this late? Surely you would have considered the problems long ago.

With respect some of the worst and most inaccurate information about immigration/visa/extensions of stay etc is provided by Consulates/Embassies.

Not this guy. He is excellent. Worked at the embassy in Bkk for years and years, moved back to Australia when you couldn't hold 2 passports, he didn't want to become a Thai citizen, works in the Thai consul in Oz for another 20 years. Every time I have asked him any questions, it was always valuable information, no hesitation or guessing.

Worst information I have gotten always comes from DIAC. Never the 2 same answers, always they have to get some manager to check if they are right.

If you doubt me, think of a question, ring him, and ask to speak to the Consul General. Guarantee he knows the answer. Phone numbers on the link.

I don't know what DIAC is. But it does not sound like it has anything to do with Thai visas or extensions

Thepool made a very good general statement about Thai embassies and consulates not giving good advice about extensions of stay or even having any knowledge about them. Some of their visa advice is not always the best either.

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You can try contacting these guys in Adelaide. The chap there is very good and very helpful.

http://www.royalthaiconsulate.org.au/

I have to ask if you knew this issue was going to happen, why leave it all this late? Surely you would have considered the problems long ago.

With respect some of the worst and most inaccurate information about immigration/visa/extensions of stay etc is provided by Consulates/Embassies.

Not this guy. He is excellent. Worked at the embassy in Bkk for years and years, moved back to Australia when you couldn't hold 2 passports, he didn't want to become a Thai citizen, works in the Thai consul in Oz for another 20 years. Every time I have asked him any questions, it was always valuable information, no hesitation or guessing.

Worst information I have gotten always comes from DIAC. Never the 2 same answers, always they have to get some manager to check if they are right.

If you doubt me, think of a question, ring him, and ask to speak to the Consul General. Guarantee he knows the answer. Phone numbers on the link.

I don't know what DIAC is. But it does not sound like it has anything to do with Thai visas or extensions

Thepool made a very good general statement about Thai embassies and consulates not giving good advice about extensions of stay or even having any knowledge about them. Some of their visa advice is not always the best either.

Maybe you guys ring the same office?

I mean it would be quite silly to assume all the Embassies and Consulates don't give good advice or even have any knowledge about visas and extensions right? It boils down to who you speak to.

Edited April 27, 201412 yr by krisb

I don't know what DIAC is. But it does not sound like it has anything to do with Thai visas or extensions

Thepool made a very good general statement about Thai embassies and consulates not giving good advice about extensions of stay or even having any knowledge about them. Some of their visa advice is not always the best either.

its the OZ Department of Immigration and Citizenship, and you are so wrong about advice given by this guy, excellent guy agree with Krisb 100%

It seems Louise77 hasn't bothered to post addn'l info to clarify the issue - something I've noticed on other threads - after the original question is posed the OP has an attention span lapse and multiple replies are added and OP never returns to the thread.

Of course, she may wait until last minute to read and respond as she did to post. However, one would think that a reply concerning an upcoming birth would important.... unless she is now in hospital....

Is this what is called trolling?

Many who post do return and read the replies without making a reply because their questions were answered.

It is certainly is not trolling. In fact your post comes closer to the definition of it. See; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

I don't know what DIAC is. But it does not sound like it has anything to do with Thai visas or extensions

Thepool made a very good general statement about Thai embassies and consulates not giving good advice about extensions of stay or even having any knowledge about them. Some of their visa advice is not always the best either.

its the OZ Department of Immigration and Citizenship, and you are so wrong about advice given by this guy, excellent guy agree with Krisb 100%

Thankyou, and glad I';m not the only one who has spoken to him.

He's an older chap with a lot of experience. A top guy.

I don't know what DIAC is. But it does not sound like it has anything to do with Thai visas or extensions

Thepool made a very good general statement about Thai embassies and consulates not giving good advice about extensions of stay or even having any knowledge about them. Some of their visa advice is not always the best either.

its the OZ Department of Immigration and Citizenship, and you are so wrong about advice given by this guy, excellent guy agree with Krisb 100%

No longer, now changed to Department of Immigration and Border Control

I don't know what DIAC is. But it does not sound like it has anything to do with Thai visas or extensions

Thepool made a very good general statement about Thai embassies and consulates not giving good advice about extensions of stay or even having any knowledge about them. Some of their visa advice is not always the best either.

its the OZ Department of Immigration and Citizenship, and you are so wrong about advice given by this guy, excellent guy agree with Krisb 100%

You should note that I said a general statement which is correct. I was not saying anything thing about the person mentioned.

So I was correct about DIAC.

Thank you everyone who answered this for me, I will go to immigration and find out what i need from my doctor to get the extension on my visa for after the birth.

Once that is done I have time to sort out which visa I can get. solved. thank you

as for the people who didn't really have anything useful to add except questions about my life "why would i leave this till now" "am I married to the father?" "why has it taken me 24 hours to reply to this thread maybe im in hospital now" haha seriously??? its none of your business really...get your own life people...get outside...get off your computer...get some friends or something because you clearly have too much time on your hands

Really thank you to the people with the correct info you have been really helpful and its true a lot of the time the OP wont repost because the question was already answered and the rest of the people posting are just sitting there looking for something to disagree with or something that someone worded wrong...ahh trolls

Thanks for coming back and posting.

You should not have any problem getting the extension. In fact you may even qualify for a 90 day extension if the Doctor writes the letter to include your babies care.

Thank you everyone who answered this for me, I will go to immigration and find out what i need from my doctor to get the extension on my visa for after the birth.

Once that is done I have time to sort out which visa I can get. solved. thank you

as for the people who didn't really have anything useful to add except questions about my life "why would i leave this till now" "am I married to the father?" "why has it taken me 24 hours to reply to this thread maybe im in hospital now" haha seriously??? its none of your business really...get your own life people...get outside...get off your computer...get some friends or something because you clearly have too much time on your hands

Really thank you to the people with the correct info you have been really helpful and its true a lot of the time the OP wont repost because the question was already answered and the rest of the people posting are just sitting there looking for something to disagree with or something that someone worded wrong...ahh trolls

Nice to know that you've got the visa figured out.... so you can leave the country once recovered.... but can you legally take the baby with you? That I think was the focus of some of the personal questions being asked.... but since that is none of our business we will just hope you already know the answer.

as for the people who didn't really have anything useful to add except questions about my life "why would i leave this till now" "am I married to the father?" "why has it taken me 24 hours to reply to this thread maybe im in hospital now" haha seriously??? its none of your business really...get your own life people...get outside...get off your computer...get some friends or something because you clearly have too much time on your hands

wow...that is a really ungrateful answer.

The key to your extension of stay, and your child's citizenship status, is indeed the status of your marriage.

But what would I know? Dual Thai/Australian husband (me) with a foreign wife. Three kids born in Thailand.

All the best however, I wish you well. Just don't expect any further help from me.