webfact Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 PCAD To Sue Web Editor For "Distorting" Suthep's SpeechBy Khaosod EnglishPCAD leader Suthep Thaugsuban speaking at the Government House, 17 May 2014.BANGKOK — A prominent anti-government activist is reportedly planning to sue the editor of a popular Thai website over critical remarks about anti-government protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban.The editor of Kapook, Poramet Minsiri, angered many anti-government protesters when he claimed on Twitter that Mr. Suthep, the self-appointed leader of the People's Committee for Absolute Democracy With the King As Head of State (PCAD), is willing to use his "Sovereign Power" to summarily execute, detain, and seize the assets of his opponents once he manages to topple the government.Mr. Poramet's comment was a paraphrase of Mr. Suthep's speech, delivered at a PCAD rally stage in April, in which he announced plans to appoint himself as a "Sovereign Body" and wield absolute power through a number of "Revolutionary Decrees" that would grant him authority similar to that which was enjoyed by the military dictatorship in 1960s.Although Mr. Suthep did not explicitly threaten to order summary executions, he did mention that he would be able to do so as a "Sovereign Body": "We will have something like Article 17 [of 1959 Administrative Charter] as the highest law ... will be able to order anyone to be executed by firing squad, but I will only freeze assets."However, another PCAD activist, former Democrat MP Satit Wongnongtoey, has deemed Mr. Poramet's interpretation of the speech unacceptable. Yesterday, Mr. Satit told the anti-government newspaper Manager ASTV yesterday that he is consulting with his lawyer to bring a libel lawsuit against the Kapook editor."I insist that Mr. Suthep's movements have nothing to do with violence, let alone the threats of execution," Manager ASTV quoted Mr. Satit as saying. He did not mention when his lawyer will file charges against Mr. Poramet.Responding to the threat of libel lawsuit, Mr. Poramet released a statement claiming that he is an impartial observer, equally critical of both the ruling Pheu Thai Party and the PCAD."I find it incredible that all the time I have been exposing Thaksin Administration and Pheu Thai Party for many years, I have not been threatened by any legal action. But today I have received the news that the lawyer of a Democrat Party politician intends to sue me only few months after I criticised Mr. Suthep," Mr. Poramet said in the statement.Source: http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1400485983 -- Khaosod English 2014-05-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pookiki Posted May 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2014 As long as libel and defamation suits are filed against media outlets at the drop of a hat in Thailand, there will never be any freedom of the press. Besides, if it was Suthep that was allegedly libeled, should he be the one filing the charges and not some uninterested party? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loles Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Don't distort the speech of benito imperator. Next time death-penalty for editor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BeforeTigers Posted May 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2014 People are marching in the streets, not against dictatorship, but specifically for it; to give unilateral power of life and death to some crazy eyed, megalomaniac politician.The more I think about it the crazier it gets.What is wrong with these people. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 They're all mad here......! Defamation case number 25,792.......due for court around 2075! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chotthee Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 What a laugh qUOTE Although Mr. Suthep did not explicitly threaten to order summary executions, he did mention that he would be able to do so as a "Sovereign Body": "We will have something like Article 17 [of 1959 Administrative Charter] as the highest law ... will be able to order anyone to be executed by firing squad, but I will only freeze assets." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post moonao Posted May 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) Reminds me of those laws where a thief breaks into your home at night, slips in the kitchen, breaks his leg, and sues you and wins. First things first, Suthep needs to be behind bars. Edited May 19, 2014 by moonao 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Why is Mr. Suthep afraid of his own shadow? Is the truth too scary for him to see? Has he looked at his reflected image lately? I am sure he will be shocked to see his own reflection - that is if he can see himself at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GenericSurvivor Posted May 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2014 This guy is a complete and utter raving lunatic. The whole 'anti-government' movement is. If you tried that in a western country, like Britain or Ireland, they'd go berserk. These absolute ignorant, pompous fools are so brainwashed, it's unbelievable. 'Lets get democracy by raping democracy everybody'...It's disgusting. Back to Suthep though...I've no words to fully describe how arrogant, narcissistic, delusional and generally crazy he is. They're poking a sleeping dog here...the red-shirts are almost awake, and when they make a move, it's either civil war or total surrender on the yellow side. It's pure, out and out elitism. Reminds me of the south african apartheid...Except with far, far more delusional idiots. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinger Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I think the distortion happens somewhere between his brain and his vocal cords. Also hasn't he claimed all along he is not seeking any office but just doing this for the good of the people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Asiantravel Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) People are marching in the streets, not against dictatorship, but specifically for it; to give unilateral power of life and death to some crazy eyed, megalomaniac politician. The more I think about it the crazier it gets. What is wrong with these people. Same style exactly as Gen Augusto Pinochet in Chile in 1973 and we all know from history, what came after that What chance would us falangs have ? Edited May 19, 2014 by Asiantravel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 This guy is a complete and utter raving lunatic. The whole 'anti-government' movement is. If you tried that in a western country, like Britain or Ireland, they'd go berserk. These absolute ignorant, pompous fools are so brainwashed, it's unbelievable. 'Lets get democracy by raping democracy everybody'...It's disgusting. Back to Suthep though...I've no words to fully describe how arrogant, narcissistic, delusional and generally crazy he is. They're poking a sleeping dog here...the red-shirts are almost awake, and when they make a move, it's either civil war or total surrender on the yellow side. It's pure, out and out elitism. Reminds me of the south african apartheid...Except with far, far more delusional idiots. Al Jazeera America agrees with you. Google the article named Thailand on the brink of civil war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lingba Posted May 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2014 People are marching in the streets, not against dictatorship, but specifically for it; to give unilateral power of life and death to some crazy eyed, megalomaniac politician. The more I think about it the crazier it gets. What is wrong with these people. what is wrong is that they have lived in their own distorted and sheltered world for too long...have no idea how the rest of the civilised world functions and the opportunities that exist...they only choose to think in terms odf corruption and how working in a high and powerful postion is only meant to line your own pockets...it has nothing to do with how to contribute to help making the country and its people exist in a better world 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Just another dip into the realm of bizarre. Even the Thais can't understand what he's on about 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeforeTigers Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 People are marching in the streets, not against dictatorship, but specifically for it; to give unilateral power of life and death to some crazy eyed, megalomaniac politician. The more I think about it the crazier it gets. What is wrong with these people. Same style exactly as Gen Augusto Pinochet in Chile in 1973 and we all know from history, what came after that What chance would us falangs have ? Oh, I'm not sure when or if it will happen, but I'm already prepared for the inevitable vilification of foreigners that will accompany any all-out civil war. It's an historical certainty that the media will find it's finger pointed squarely at us when it really goes down- more so if mad dog somehow finds his way to power, with or without a violent revolt. Dictators feed on scapegoats. Bit dramatic, I know. But these do seem like dramatic times to my eye. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Not a bad idea to side track all that's going on , however I think a life style audit on all present and former ministers in the PTP would be welcome in some quarters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) People are marching in the streets, not against dictatorship, but specifically for it; to give unilateral power of life and death to some crazy eyed, megalomaniac politician. The more I think about it the crazier it gets. What is wrong with these people. Same style exactly as Gen Augusto Pinochet in Chile in 1973 and we all know from history, what came after that What chance would us falangs have ? Oh, I'm not sure when or if it will happen, but I'm already prepared for the inevitable vilification of foreigners that will accompany any all-out civil war. It's an historical certainty that the media will find it's finger pointed squarely at us when it really goes down- more so if mad dog somehow finds his way to power, with or without a violent revolt. Dictators feed on scapegoats. Bit dramatic, I know. But these do seem like dramatic times to my eye. Not at all dramatic …………… I'm just glad I can walk out without any ties if necessary. But what a tragedy for the country As a rule, fascist governments are dominated by a dictator, who usually possesses a magnetic personality, appeals to strident nationalism; and promotes suspicion or hatred of both foreigners and “impure” people within his own nation, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fascism?s=t Edited May 19, 2014 by Asiantravel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scamper Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) Suthep's speech was ludicrous enough, but Khaosod deliberately set out to make it worse. That was true before, and it is true today in Khaosod's follow-up article. Despite all the pains Suthep and others have taken to set Khaosod straight on their outlandish slant - has been met with deaf ears. Khaosod continues to do so, because their narrative hasn't changed one iota. Khaosod routinely not only stretches but breaks every journalistic ethic. No reputable journalistic school would allow what Khaosod does. Khaosod invariably exposes their bias when compared to other publications. It seems like they almost inhabit a different planet. Khaosod has long distinguished itself as the worst publication of it is kind. It deserves to be seen at Seven Eleven outlets in the North right next to the magazines with Thaksin's face. Edited May 19, 2014 by Scamper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 As long as libel and defamation suits are filed against media outlets at the drop of a hat in Thailand, there will never be any freedom of the press. Besides, if it was Suthep that was allegedly libeled, should he be the one filing the charges and not some uninterested party? Uninterested party? Read the OP again, I would say. PCAD is being misquoted and a PCAD activist, former Democrat MP Satit Wongnongtoey has deemed that speech interpretation unacceptable. Anyway, even Thaksin had help from the (it's not about Thaksin) Pheu Thai party MPs who thought their boss was being defamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeforeTigers Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Suthep's speech was ludicrous enough, but Khaosod deliberately set out to make it worse. That was true before, and it is true today in Khaosod's follow-up article. Despite all the pains Suthep and others have taken to set Khaosod straight on their outlandish slant - has been met with deaf ears. Khaosod continues to do so, because their narrative hasn't changed one iota. Khaosod routinely not only stretches but breaks every journalistic ethic. No reputable journalistic school would allow what Khaosod does. Khaosod invariably exposes their bias when compared to other publications. It seems like they almost inhabit a different planet. Khaosod has long distinguished itself as the worst publication of it is kind. It deserves to be seen at Seven Eleven outlets in the North right next to the magazines with Thaksin's face. That's interesting. Examples? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thai at Heart Posted May 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2014 Suthep's speech was ludicrous enough, but Khaosod deliberately set out to make it worse. That was true before, and it is true today in Khaosod's follow-up article. Despite all the pains Suthep and others have taken to set Khaosod straight on their outlandish slant - has been met with deaf ears. Khaosod continues to do so, because their narrative hasn't changed one iota. Khaosod routinely not only stretches but breaks every journalistic ethic. No reputable journalistic school would allow what Khaosod does. Khaosod invariably exposes their bias when compared to other publications. It seems like they almost inhabit a different planet. Khaosod has long distinguished itself as the worst publication of it is kind. It deserves to be seen at Seven Eleven outlets in the North right next to the magazines with Thaksin's face. Its his job to clarify his meaning, not sue someone for their interpretation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saakura Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Suthep's speech was ludicrous enough, but Khaosod deliberately set out to make it worse. That was true before, and it is true today in Khaosod's follow-up article. Despite all the pains Suthep and others have taken to set Khaosod straight on their outlandish slant - has been met with deaf ears. Khaosod continues to do so, because their narrative hasn't changed one iota. Khaosod routinely not only stretches but breaks every journalistic ethic. No reputable journalistic school would allow what Khaosod does. Khaosod invariably exposes their bias when compared to other publications. It seems like they almost inhabit a different planet. Khaosod has long distinguished itself as the worst publication of it is kind. It deserves to be seen at Seven Eleven outlets in the North right next to the magazines with Thaksin's face. Agreed. And what is your opinion about The Nation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 People are marching in the streets, not against dictatorship, but specifically for it; to give unilateral power of life and death to some crazy eyed, megalomaniac politician. The more I think about it the crazier it gets. What is wrong with these people. They have been bought and paid for by Thaksin. Plus there is the continuous ongoing daily brainwashing by the red media. Thailand is now circling the drain. At best it is only a matter of weeks. Let's hope the military moves soon, and when it does, move with surgical precision and decisiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Suthep's speech was ludicrous enough, but Khaosod deliberately set out to make it worse. That was true before, and it is true today in Khaosod's follow-up article. Despite all the pains Suthep and others have taken to set Khaosod straight on their outlandish slant - has been met with deaf ears. Khaosod continues to do so, because their narrative hasn't changed one iota. Khaosod routinely not only stretches but breaks every journalistic ethic. No reputable journalistic school would allow what Khaosod does. Khaosod invariably exposes their bias when compared to other publications. It seems like they almost inhabit a different planet. Khaosod has long distinguished itself as the worst publication of it is kind. It deserves to be seen at Seven Eleven outlets in the North right next to the magazines with Thaksin's face. That's interesting. Examples? Suthep's speech was ludicrous enough, but Khaosod deliberately set out to make it worse. That was true before, and it is true today in Khaosod's follow-up article. Despite all the pains Suthep and others have taken to set Khaosod straight on their outlandish slant - has been met with deaf ears. Khaosod continues to do so, because their narrative hasn't changed one iota. Khaosod routinely not only stretches but breaks every journalistic ethic. No reputable journalistic school would allow what Khaosod does. Khaosod invariably exposes their bias when compared to other publications. It seems like they almost inhabit a different planet. Khaosod has long distinguished itself as the worst publication of it is kind. It deserves to be seen at Seven Eleven outlets in the North right next to the magazines with Thaksin's face. Agreed. And what is your opinion about The Nation? Don't bother people. Scamper's merely a mouthpiece. He never responds directly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 PCAD leader Suthep Thaugsuban speaking at the Government House, 17 May 2014 Is he the leader of the PCAD or PDRC? Bloody Judian Peoples Front and the Peoples Front of Judia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 This guy is a complete and utter raving lunatic. The whole 'anti-government' movement is. If you tried that in a western country, like Britain or Ireland, they'd go berserk. These absolute ignorant, pompous fools are so brainwashed, it's unbelievable. 'Lets get democracy by raping democracy everybody'...It's disgusting. Back to Suthep though...I've no words to fully describe how arrogant, narcissistic, delusional and generally crazy he is. They're poking a sleeping dog here...the red-shirts are almost awake, and when they make a move, it's either civil war or total surrender on the yellow side. It's pure, out and out elitism. Reminds me of the south african apartheid...Except with far, far more delusional idiots. Agreed he's a bit mad sometimes but you can't really judge it as if it's a western democracy. They wouldn't end up with a government like this so there wouldn't be the same incentive to act as he does. Hopefully someone will get everyone sat down to talk and he can go home or prison depending how it all works out. It looked hopeful when Abhisit came up with some sort of plan which Yingluck seemed to be prepared to discuss. I don't know what happened but I wouldn't be surprised if that other self centred individual Thaksin was the problem. Maybe we could lock them in a room together. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xminator Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 So much easier when he was pulling strings inside the government. Could ban media that he did not like as he seemed fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Oh, I'm not sure when or if it will happen, but I'm already prepared for the inevitable vilification of foreigners that will accompany any all-out civil war. It's an historical certainty that the media will find it's finger pointed squarely at us when it really goes down- more so if mad dog somehow finds his way to power, with or without a violent revolt. Dictators feed on scapegoats. Bit dramatic, I know. But these do seem like dramatic times to my eye. Not at all dramatic …………… I'm just glad I can walk out without any ties if necessary. But what a tragedy for the country As a rule, fascist governments are dominated by a dictator, who usually possesses a magnetic personality, appeals to strident nationalism; and promotes suspicion or hatred of both foreigners and “impure” people within his own nation, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fascism?s=t Not at all dramatic, how? Suthep isn't in office, and frankly, not very likely that he personally would get there. To a certain degree, almost all Thai governments displayed some elements of fascism. Magnetic personality, eh? Not sure how much that's true nowadays as far as Suthep goes. There was no persistent anti-foreigner trend, rather a childish attitude toward foreign press not playing along. This by itself isn't unique to the PDRC, other Thai politician reacted badly to members of the press in the past. There are outbursts of xenophobia, and nationalism - but they are not limited to this side or another. If memory serves, during the last government's there were rumors spread about foreigners owning huge chunks of Thai soil, for example. Been both to Red-shirt and PDRC rallies, was pretty much the same. Maybe 2010 felt more aggression and a little more potential threat, but can't say it was overt or anything, and anyway not directed at foreigners specifically. So actually, yes, drama. At least for now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Oh, I'm not sure when or if it will happen, but I'm already prepared for the inevitable vilification of foreigners that will accompany any all-out civil war. It's an historical certainty that the media will find it's finger pointed squarely at us when it really goes down- more so if mad dog somehow finds his way to power, with or without a violent revolt. Dictators feed on scapegoats. Bit dramatic, I know. But these do seem like dramatic times to my eye. Not at all dramatic …………… I'm just glad I can walk out without any ties if necessary. But what a tragedy for the country As a rule, fascist governments are dominated by a dictator, who usually possesses a magnetic personality, appeals to strident nationalism; and promotes suspicion or hatred of both foreigners and “impure” people within his own nation, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fascism?s=t Not at all dramatic, how? Suthep isn't in office, and frankly, not very likely that he personally would get there. To a certain degree, almost all Thai governments displayed some elements of fascism. Magnetic personality, eh? Not sure how much that's true nowadays as far as Suthep goes. There was no persistent anti-foreigner trend, rather a childish attitude toward foreign press not playing along. This by itself isn't unique to the PDRC, other Thai politician reacted badly to members of the press in the past. There are outbursts of xenophobia, and nationalism - but they are not limited to this side or another. If memory serves, during the last government's there were rumors spread about foreigners owning huge chunks of Thai soil, for example. Been both to Red-shirt and PDRC rallies, was pretty much the same. Maybe 2010 felt more aggression and a little more potential threat, but can't say it was overt or anything, and anyway not directed at foreigners specifically. So actually, yes, drama. At least for now. It is a universal quality of Thai politics that when something goes wrong, normally, you can rattle the foreigners cage to divery everyone. That said, the yellows are waaaay ahead in the nationalistic stages. I wonder why they haven't had a Phraer Viharn moment for a while. Thats always good for a jolly in the countryside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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