Violators of lese majesty law, coup orders to face court martial

[Lite Beer]

Violators of lese majesty law, coup orders to face court martial

The National Council for Peace and Order issued a latest order Sunday, saying violators of lese majesty law and coup orders as well as violators of internal security laws will face court martial.


-- The Nation 2014-05-25


UPDATE:
Thaivisa.com asks members to be careful what they post in forums due to current situation
Read more:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/729064-urgent-notice-to-members/

[cacruden]

grouping those two violations together is inappropriate....

[Hillywilly]

Anyone know what the penalty for lese majeste is under martial law?

From Wikipedia ;

Thai laws reflecting Thai cultures and ethics. The structure of offences of insult or defamation in the current Thai Criminal Code is divided into three groups and six levels:

The first group is insult or defamation against ordinary persons. Insult against another person in his or her presence under Section 393 has a penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding 1 month or a fine not exceeding 1,000 baht, or both. The penalty for defamation under Sections 326 to 333 is imprisonment for a term not exceeding 1 year or a fine not exceeding 20,000 baht, or both. The penalty for defamation by means of publication is imprisonment of up to 2 years or a fine of up to 200,000 baht.

The second group is insult or defamation against state officials or the Court. Insulting officials (Section 136) carries a penalty of imprisonment for up to 1 year or a fine of up to 20,000 baht, or both. Insulting the Court or the judge (Section 198) presiding over a case carries a penalty of imprisonment for 4 to 7 years, or a fine of 2,000 to 14,000 baht, or both.

The third group is insult against the Head of State of foreign countries or lèse-majesté. Insulting or threatening the King, Queen, Consort, Heir-apparent or Head of State of foreign countries (Section 133), which is an offence against the friendly relations with foreign states, is punishable by 1 to 7 years imprisonment or a fine of 2,000-140,000 baht, or both. The penalty for defaming, insulting or threatening the Thai Monarch, the Queen, Heir-apparent or Regent (Section 112) is imprisonment for a 3 of three to 15 years. Insulting or defaming a representative of a foreign state accredited to the Royal Court has the penalty of imprisonment for a term of 6 months to 15 years or a fine of 1,000-10,000 baht, or both.

It is clear from the above that the Thai Criminal Code classifies offences of insult or defamation in accordance with the status of and relations among persons in line with ethical norms in Thai society.

While the original penalty for lèse-majestè was a maximum of 7 years imprisonment, it was toughened to a minimum of 3 years and a maximum of 15 years during the dictatorship of royalist Premier Tanin Kraivixien. Also banned was criticism of any member of the royal family, the royal development projects, the royal institution, the Chakri Dynasty, or any previous Thai King. These harsher provisions have been retained to the present day.[12]

[Now or Never]

The news just gets better and better.

A week ago it was Chalerm and Tharit arresting every one they didn't like.

Now they are the ones being arrested for their crimes and abuse of power while the Reds are still screaming Democracy.

Other good news

Illegal community radio stations will not be allowed to resume broadcast: Winthai

This will really get the reds excited.

The Red propaganda hotline has been severed.

How do you like them apples...... REDS ??

[cacruden]

LM is lese majeste

[antimedia]

Isn’t life going to be so much easier from now on living in Thailand, you never know they may eventually get around to re-writing the draconian discriminate immigration laws. Well one can still dream,

[johnlandy]

RT@Ryn_writes: Reporters & journalists (including foreign) are asked to register with NPCOM tomorrow 9-12am at Army Club Dheves. via @winaithornPNC

Maybe time for Jonathan Head, Nick Nostitz and their red pals to pack their bags and plan for new lives and careers in another country before its too late. I hear that Cambodia welcomes their type.

"their type" AND what type is that

[Tokay]

Maybe time for Jonathan Head, Nick Nostitz and their red pals to pack their bags and plan for new lives and careers in another country before its too late. I hear that Cambodia welcomes their type.

You mean people who exercise their freedom of the press type? Yea, those are the worst. Lets do away with them.

[IamNoone88]

From the ashes of lawlessness, now begins a welcome cycle of law and order. Don't knock it, until you have tried it.

[tezzainoz]

I smell a revolution coming on, and the Junta is evidently losing his cool !

Or maybe cleaning out all the dirt so it can start with a clean slate

unlike last time where they left the slime still on the ground when the walked on

IF you afraid to do the time, do not do the crime

[kratiam]

Isn’t life going to be so much easier from now on living in Thailand, you never know they may eventually get around to re-writing the draconian discriminate immigration laws. Well one can still dream,

With respect, if you dislike the laws so much, why not leave?

[tullynagardy]

If you want to come to Thailand again, becarefiul what you write

you may have a red link on you name at immigration

Farlang who live in Thailand have learnt to think before the thwim

The idea the Thai army is scouring an English language forum to look for "reds," then linking it to immigration is obsurd in the extreme. Thailand has enough sanctions about to hit it without arressting foreign holidaymakers over what they wrote in an online forum hosted in a different country.

I think you are just trying really hard to feel part of a colour or movement, in this case yellow. Its pathetic and typical of the sexpat retiree who cares little for the economy as their bank balance is unaffected,.

[kratiam]

For those who support the military coup, what rubbish. It is nothing more than a conservative take over of the country, against a government which had clearly won several elections. If you believe that anything good will come out of this, think again. The Reds will be ground down, but their resentment will build. They have consistently stood by while Red govs have been deposed, stood by when courts struck down there elected officials, and now, again, there government has been thrown out, but the military, which has a long history of interfering in the runing of the country.

....and stood by whilst (by common agreement) billions were siphoned out of the economy under the guise of having been democratically elected.

[WhizBang]

Something must be going on behind the scene. The army's actions have been very extreme so far.

I would have used the word, decisive. Yes, I also believe something (extreme?) is going on behind the scenes.

Best to just sit back and observe. It's going to be quite a ride.

[Chris Lawrence]

A bit more from Wikipedia;

Thailand's Criminal Code has carried a prohibition against lese-majesty since 1908.^[21] In 1932, when Thailand's monarchy ceased to be absolute and a constitution was adopted, it too included language prohibiting lese-majesty. The 2007 Constitution of Thailand, and all seventeen versions since 1932, contain the clause, "The King shall be enthroned in a position of revered worship and shall not be violated. No person shall expose the King to any sort of accusation or action." Thai Criminal Code elaborates in Article 112: "Whoever defames, insults or threatens the King, Queen, the Heir-apparent or the Regent, shall be punished with imprisonment of three to fifteen years." Missing from the Code, however, is a definition of what actions constitute "defamation" or "insult".^[22] From 1990 to 2005, the Thai court system only saw four or five lese-majesty cases a year. From January 2006 to May 2011, however, more than 400 cases came to trial, an estimated 15-fold increase.^[23] Observers attribute the increase to increased polarization following the 2006 military coup and sensitivity over the elderly king's declining health.^[23]

Recently in 2013, the Thai Supreme Court ruled in case no. 6374/2556 that the Article 112 of the Penal Code protects the past Kings as well as the present one. As such, the criticism or comment which may cast negative image or tarnish the monarchy on the past Kings or monarchy is punishable by law. However, scholars raised doubt how far back the lèse majesté will be applied as the present Thai monarchy (Ratanakosin) dates back more than 200 years while other monarchies which ruled Siam can be traced back as far as 700 years.

Neither the King nor any member of the Royal Family has ever personally filed any charges under this law. In fact, during his birthday speech in 2005, King Bhumibol Adulyadej encouraged criticism: "Actually, I must also be criticized. I am not afraid if the criticism concerns what I do wrong, because then I know." He later added, "But the King can do wrong," in reference to those he was appealing to not to overlook his human nature.[

[WhizBang]

*Deleted post edited out*

Not really. The BBC, CNN et al would do well to assign reporters who won't take the easy route when reporting and who would actually do an indepth analysis.

Edited May 25, 2014 by Scott

[bangrak]

The hypocrisy in the reactions of the red sympathizers, and apologists, here, and of so-called 'democratic minded' people, who obviously didn't have any problem with Thailand not being 'a Democracy' at all till just a week ago, though not unexpected, is pathetic... I hope it won't deter the military an inch from giving the Augias' stables this country had become the, long overdue, thorough, 'big clean' many (most?) of its citizens didn't dare to hope for anymore!

[Crossy]

A number of posts referring to the monarchy have been remove along with the repies (sorry to the responders).

In these difficult times we must be extremely careful, thanks for understanding.

[citizen33]

Re the endorsement I said the General needed, he seems to have got it.

Deep Blue Sea @WassanaNanuam

His Majesty the King endorsed Gen Prayut, the coup leader as the head of NCPO. The ceremony will be held tomorrow at Army HQ.

Retweeted by George Thaivisa

P.S. Please remove if inappropriate.

Edited May 25, 2014 by citizen33

[Maestro]

I have removed some troll posts and a post using abusive language, the replies to these removed posts, and the replies to the posts that quoted a removed post.

[Now or Never]

If you want to come to Thailand again, becarefiul what you write

you may have a red link on you name at immigration

Farlang who live in Thailand have learnt to think before the thwim

The idea the Thai army is scouring an English language forum to look for "reds," then linking it to immigration is obsurd in the extreme. Thailand has enough sanctions about to hit it without arressting foreign holidaymakers over what they wrote in an online forum hosted in a different country.

I think you are just trying really hard to feel part of a colour or movement, in this case yellow. Its pathetic and typical of the sexpat retiree who cares little for the economy as their bank balance is unaffected,.

I guess you feel so much better now that you have that off your chest.

It's a shame you don't know what you are talking about.

[oldsailor35]

Lets hope the next move by the generals will be to kick out all those farangs that are here on tourist visas for for cheap pxxxs, making money without the correct visas and all those guys that do the border crossings until recently.

I notice the generals are now in charge of the police and the immigration falls under the RTP.

Lets see the wining that starts with all those farangs once their tourist visas are not renewed. I am seeing all the time the winning on TV and all I can do is at it.

I would suggest the generals the following changes to the Immigration rules so we get rid of all those Farang banocks.

2 x Tourist visas and you are out of the country for six months.

No border crossings for farangs of which the government of their country gives a negative reaction to the coup.

Foreigners that want to stay longer them one year in Thailand, should deposit 5 million Baht in a Thai bank account.

Thailand has been to nice to all those foreigners that come to Thailand for the past years, so let the generals also clean up the immigration act and put it more on par with HK, Japan, Australia, Singapore etc.

For me, I have a PR so I am not worried about it as I paid millions of Baht in taxes.

Oh yes, in regards of overstay increase the amount to 250,000 Baht or three years jail. Illegal working in Thailand 500,000 Baht or 6 years jail.

If Prayuth can do this one I might forgive him for his coup but at least he get rid of those farangs which must be in the thousands.

Want to reply to this post? Please mention your visa status and how long have you been in Thailand already?

You obviously have a very big chip on your shoulder and a massive "I am alright jack" attitude. Feel sorry for you and all those poor souls around you..............Non IMM 'O'

[tullynagardy]

If you want to come to Thailand again, becarefiul what you write

you may have a red link on you name at immigration

Farlang who live in Thailand have learnt to think before the thwim

The idea the Thai army is scouring an English language forum to look for "reds," then linking it to immigration is obsurd in the extreme. Thailand has enough sanctions about to hit it without arressting foreign holidaymakers over what they wrote in an online forum hosted in a different country.

I think you are just trying really hard to feel part of a colour or movement, in this case yellow. Its pathetic and typical of the sexpat retiree who cares little for the economy as their bank balance is unaffected,.

I guess you feel so much better now that you have that off your chest.

It's a shame you don't know what you are talking about.

Another of the ever shrinking group of pro PDRC sex pats that just doesnt understand what any of this is about.

Dont worry, you`ll work it out champ

[dcpo]

There are many good reasons to oppose Thaksin but some of the TV PDRC supporters are coming across as pretty evil now. True colours and all that.

[devaram]

But they were not welcome in America so they moved to Thailand and joined the Thai visa forum so they could cry "Burn the red shirts" "Burn the red shirts" "Its all Thaksin (the devils) fault"

[captspectre]

Anyone know what the penalty for lese majeste is under martial law?

From Wikipedia ;

Thai laws reflecting Thai cultures and ethics. The structure of offences of insult or defamation in the current Thai Criminal Code is divided into three groups and six levels:

The first group is insult or defamation against ordinary persons. Insult against another person in his or her presence under Section 393 has a penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding 1 month or a fine not exceeding 1,000 baht, or both. The penalty for defamation under Sections 326 to 333 is imprisonment for a term not exceeding 1 year or a fine not exceeding 20,000 baht, or both. The penalty for defamation by means of publication is imprisonment of up to 2 years or a fine of up to 200,000 baht.

The second group is insult or defamation against state officials or the Court. Insulting officials (Section 136) carries a penalty of imprisonment for up to 1 year or a fine of up to 20,000 baht, or both. Insulting the Court or the judge (Section 198) presiding over a case carries a penalty of imprisonment for 4 to 7 years, or a fine of 2,000 to 14,000 baht, or both.

The third group is insult against the Head of State of foreign countries or lèse-majesté. Insulting or threatening the King, Queen, Consort, Heir-apparent or Head of State of foreign countries (Section 133), which is an offence against the friendly relations with foreign states, is punishable by 1 to 7 years imprisonment or a fine of 2,000-140,000 baht, or both. The penalty for defaming, insulting or threatening the Thai Monarch, the Queen, Heir-apparent or Regent (Section 112) is imprisonment for a 3 of three to 15 years. Insulting or defaming a representative of a foreign state accredited to the Royal Court has the penalty of imprisonment for a term of 6 months to 15 years or a fine of 1,000-10,000 baht, or both.

It is clear from the above that the Thai Criminal Code classifies offences of insult or defamation in accordance with the status of and relations among persons in line with ethical norms in Thai society.

While the original penalty for lèse-majestè was a maximum of 7 years imprisonment, it was toughened to a minimum of 3 years and a maximum of 15 years during the dictatorship of royalist Premier Tanin Kraivixien. Also banned was criticism of any member of the royal family, the royal development projects, the royal institution, the Chakri Dynasty, or any previous Thai King. These harsher provisions have been retained to the present day.[12]

The penalty is whatever they decide! you don't expect to go before a judge do you?

[soalbundy]

Deleted post edited out

Please remember on the internet we all have IP address'd that can be traced back to the person sending the letter

In the pater 1 month ago was some idiot who threaten some one and last week he was traced and charged

If you want to come to Thailand again, becarefiul what you write

you may have a red link on you name at immigration

Farlang who live in Thailand have learnt to think before the thwim

On arrival into Thailand, strip searched and probed at the boarder and not behind the screen. Watch what u share

What is a thwim ? a farlang? a pater ? a becareful ? tezzainoz you are outdoing everybody

[Gunna]

RT@Ryn_writes: Reporters & journalists (including foreign) are asked to register with NPCOM tomorrow 9-12am at Army Club Dheves. via @winaithornPNC

Maybe time for Jonathan Head, Nick Nostitz and their red pals to pack their bags and plan for new lives and careers in another country before its too late. I hear that Cambodia welcomes their type.

"their type" AND what type is that

people who distort the truth for money

[Fat Haggis]

wow, what year is this?

Please remember on the internet we all have IP address'd that can be traced back to the person sending the letter

In the pater 1 month ago was some idiot who threaten some one and last week he was traced and charged

If you want to come to Thailand again, becarefiul what you write

you may have a red link on you name at immigration

Farlang who live in Thailand have learnt to think before the thwim

have you never heard of server proxy's?

many ISP's use server proxy's and IP routers, it would also be a hard thing to prove, as

A) There are many people posting from outside of Thailand, and are not residents or have resident status, so they're not in the country to break that country's laws.

many establishments have single IP's and then use an Intranet system where there can be up to 100 users on that IP, schools and universities being prime examples

[WhizBang]

Re the endorsement I said the General needed, he seems to have got it.

Deep Blue Sea @WassanaNanuam

His Majesty the King endorsed Gen Prayut, the coup leader as the head of NCPO. The ceremony will be held tomorrow at Army HQ.

Retweeted by George Thaivisa

P.S. Please remove if inappropriate.

I would consider that as good news. The anti-coup protesters might want to take note and rethink their opposition.