AleG Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Thin @thinink 3h Eh? MT @samanthahawley: "Do you have foreign husbands? You always take side of foreigners” say police on loud speaker, crowd angry #thaicoup Make of this what you will I just love the smell of a coup in the morning Is any of this on Thai TV So, being called out on your BS post claiming it was a set up by the army now you shif gears to derailing the thread with off-topic posts instead. Say again, what was that about propaganda? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
city Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Richard Barrow @RichardBarrow 2h 6:26pm RT @c4sparks: Army loudspeaker in English: 'Message for the foreign press. Game is over. Go home' pic.twitter.com/UbmpMPja4k #ThaiCoup Not even propaganda Context? This was said to the press at the site of the anti-coup demonstrators 3 hours after the protestors have left - so pretty accurate then - show is over, go home. How about this one: Richard Barrow @RichardBarrow · 3h 6:33pm RT @aleursic: “Thanks for coming, please come back tomorrow”, police just said to the diminishing crowd at Victory Monument #Bangkok Time for your type of rhetoric has passed. Does it not worry you that the forces in charge of this country are spewing anti foreigner bile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AleG Posted May 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2014 The Army is the one groups who gets things DONE in Thailand! Yes the army gets it done...cleaning their own house before the trail goes back to them Is it me or does this smell like another propaganda excercise. The Op online 17.25 and in the course of today they have performed a major raid and found the gun and had a ballistics check blah de blah de blah and guess what its a match...christ almighty it does not happen that quick on CSI. And a dead ranger for sympathy. Have an automatic rifle and fire a shot gun..who does that Poor sods are not even adept at propaganda. No details or even the identities of the two arrested suspects were made public by the marines for fear that they might be killed to prevent them from making confession which might lead to the mastermind who ordered the attack of the PDRC protesters. fear they might be killed while they are in marine custody to prevent them making confession. You cant make this <deleted> up...Its Disney and some It can go that fast, you have no idea when it happened and how much time they had. The reason for not giving up names is easy.. it works a lot better as all those police announcements that let the criminals get ready. It is now really clear that the police never wanted to solve anything because it will probably implement reds. Suppose I am the army and I know I am going after the people responsible for Trad, id make sure i get the bullets already ready for comparison (planning ahead). Shooting a gun in some gelly and then checking both bullets (or multiple bullets) is not that hard. Then I bring out the news and again win a victory over the police and PTP (because they got nothing done) It was to be expected that a red poster like you would discredit it before all the details came out because in your mind your side can't do a bad thing. This time its the army in charge not the bias police and CAPO. It hurts a lot when the tables are turned. All red supporters are crying on the forum. Now you know how the majority of farangs (yes yellow supporting farangs are a majority) have felt under the Shin dictatorship with all their lies. Now the truth comes out.. The the M3 matching the one used on the terrorist attack in Trad was found in the cache of weapons two days ago, plenty of time to get the forensic study done. City, can you read? Read this: "the M3 submachine gun seized from Samut Sakhon’s Krathumban district earlier this month" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Richard Barrow @RichardBarrow 2h 6:26pm RT @c4sparks: Army loudspeaker in English: 'Message for the foreign press. Game is over. Go home' pic.twitter.com/UbmpMPja4k #ThaiCoup Not even propaganda Context? This was said to the press at the site of the anti-coup demonstrators 3 hours after the protestors have left - so pretty accurate then - show is over, go home. How about this one: Richard Barrow @RichardBarrow · 3h 6:33pm RT @aleursic: “Thanks for coming, please come back tomorrow”, police just said to the diminishing crowd at Victory Monument #Bangkok Time for your type of rhetoric has passed. Does it not worry you that the forces in charge of this country are spewing anti foreigner bile. Actually it seems the time for YOUR kind of rhetoric has passed - or did you miss the commands wrt anti-coup rhetoric? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted May 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2014 Good they have a couple of suspects in custody, now lets see where it leads. Im not sure how they can say the forensics of bullets match as yet or anything else but way to go in at least having someone. Now lets see if they squeal and give details of who ordered it. Oh and btw remember the military can do whatever they like, they dont have to take things through due process or the courts, when you can do whatever you want you can get stuff done far more under a coup. The only problem with that is there tends to be a lot of kangaroo courts and innocents routinely confess under torture to anything.. Just bare it in mind. True people do confess under torture, but chances of torture are also not that slim under the PTP controlled police. Under a coup stuff gets done but I honestly think that they had information before that they did not want to share with the police because of who they are aligned with. They could have tipped the suspects off. I think (guess) that the army has been making plans and gathering evidence for when the coup comes to swiftly go after the people responsible. But I can grantee one thing even with proof there will be plenty of red posters not believing it for sure. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piichai Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Richard Barrow @RichardBarrow 2h 6:26pm RT @c4sparks: Army loudspeaker in English: 'Message for the foreign press. Game is over. Go home' pic.twitter.com/UbmpMPja4k #ThaiCoup Not even propaganda Context? This was said to the press at the site of the anti-coup demonstrators 3 hours after the protestors have left - so pretty accurate then - show is over, go home.How about this one: Richard Barrow @RichardBarrow · 3h 6:33pm RT @aleursic: Thanks for coming, please come back tomorrow, police just said to the diminishing crowd at Victory Monument #Bangkok Time for your type of rhetoric has passed. Does it not worry you that the forces in charge of this country are spewing anti foreigner bile. Absolutely not! With any luck it might get BBC to look into the cr@p Head has been submitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anteater Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Firstly - RIP to the Ranger and condolences to the family. Very sad. I said it before and I will say it again. The perfect coup. The General was very very right in arresting the PTP and UDD leadership. Look at what they have been covering up. They are essentially condoning and allowing terrorism to flourish. This is not by the lack of arrests made or the amount of weapons seized in 7 month by the PTP, but by the amount the General's men have made and weapons seized in 5 days. With these swift and just arrests and seizures one can be assured that when the General makes his statement as to why he staged this coup you can be assured the names of PTP and UDD elements will be revealed and just like the General will not reveal names now to ensure it does not sour the current investigation he will not state the "nuts and bolts" for the reasons for the coup until the public are safe when all current investigations are completed. Chalerm and the PTP could learn a thing or two from this Genera Prayuth. First - How to keep promises as the rice payment. The General made one promise to pay in 3 weeks and the first payments happened 3 days after his promise. Secondly - Do not speak about ongoing investigations Chalerm. Do not jump over yourself to release names to the public. I bet the General will not say he will wear glasses and a fake mustache to arrest the others involved in the Trat attacks. Bravo General. Bravo old mate. As we are not allowed to post any anti-coup comments or replies (understandably) couldn't you refrain from posting provocative comments? Lovely lovely coup. You CAN post provocative comments, but you just have to begin and end each post with: Lovely lovely coup. Thank you for your time taken in looking at this post. Lovely lovely coup. By the way, I just love djamie's posts. Lovely lovely coup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piichai Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Good they have a couple of suspects in custody, now lets see where it leads. Im not sure how they can say the forensics of bullets match as yet or anything else but way to go in at least having someone. Now lets see if they squeal and give details of who ordered it. Oh and btw remember the military can do whatever they like, they dont have to take things through due process or the courts, when you can do whatever you want you can get stuff done far more under a coup. The only problem with that is there tends to be a lot of kangaroo courts and innocents routinely confess under torture to anything.. Just bare it in mind. True people do confess under torture, but chances of torture are also not that slim under the PTP controlled police. Under a coup stuff gets done but I honestly think that they had information before that they did not want to share with the police because of who they are aligned with. They could have tipped the suspects off. I think (guess) that the army has been making plans and gathering evidence for when the coup comes to swiftly go after the people responsible. But I can grantee one thing even with proof there will be plenty of red posters not believing it for sure. Have to agree. Looks like the military has been thinking about cleaning house for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealth Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Good they have a couple of suspects in custody, now lets see where it leads. Im not sure how they can say the forensics of bullets match as yet or anything else but way to go in at least having someone. Now lets see if they squeal and give details of who ordered it. Oh and btw remember the military can do whatever they like, they dont have to take things through due process or the courts, when you can do whatever you want you can get stuff done far more under a coup. The only problem with that is there tends to be a lot of kangaroo courts and innocents routinely confess under torture to anything.. Just bare it in mind. True people do confess under torture, but chances of torture are also not that slim under the PTP controlled police. Under a coup stuff gets done but I honestly think that they had information before that they did not want to share with the police because of who they are aligned with. They could have tipped the suspects off. I think (guess) that the army has been making plans and gathering evidence for when the coup comes to swiftly go after the people responsible. But I can grantee one thing even with proof there will be plenty of red posters not believing it for sure. yes, they did their homework months ahead ... it's also their job to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealth Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) double post deleted Edited May 26, 2014 by wealth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Firstly - RIP to the Ranger and condolences to the family. Very sad. I said it before and I will say it again. The perfect coup. The General was very very right in arresting the PTP and UDD leadership. Look at what they have been covering up. They are essentially condoning and allowing terrorism to flourish. This is not by the lack of arrests made or the amount of weapons seized in 7 month by the PTP, but by the amount the General's men have made and weapons seized in 5 days. With these swift and just arrests and seizures one can be assured that when the General makes his statement as to why he staged this coup you can be assured the names of PTP and UDD elements will be revealed and just like the General will not reveal names now to ensure it does not sour the current investigation he will not state the "nuts and bolts" for the reasons for the coup until the public are safe when all current investigations are completed. Chalerm and the PTP could learn a thing or two from this Genera Prayuth. First - How to keep promises as the rice payment. The General made one promise to pay in 3 weeks and the first payments happened 3 days after his promise. Secondly - Do not speak about ongoing investigations Chalerm. Do not jump over yourself to release names to the public. I bet the General will not say he will wear glasses and a fake mustache to arrest the others involved in the Trat attacks. Bravo General. Bravo old mate. As we are not allowed to post any anti-coup comments or replies (understandably) couldn't you refrain from posting provocative comments? Let them bathe in their current glory. The military have temporary control, they have said there will be elections. The military will not be running for office. In the meantime, I hope that those being arrested are the right people and that their rights to a trial are ensured. You are hoping PTP win again and we have the last 3 years played out again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Good they have a couple of suspects in custody, now lets see where it leads. Im not sure how they can say the forensics of bullets match as yet or anything else but way to go in at least having someone. Now lets see if they squeal and give details of who ordered it. Oh and btw remember the military can do whatever they like, they dont have to take things through due process or the courts, when you can do whatever you want you can get stuff done far more under a coup. The only problem with that is there tends to be a lot of kangaroo courts and innocents routinely confess under torture to anything.. Just bare it in mind. True people do confess under torture, but chances of torture are also not that slim under the PTP controlled police. Under a coup stuff gets done but I honestly think that they had information before that they did not want to share with the police because of who they are aligned with. They could have tipped the suspects off. I think (guess) that the army has been making plans and gathering evidence for when the coup comes to swiftly go after the people responsible. But I can grantee one thing even with proof there will be plenty of red posters not believing it for sure. I can see no reason for torture! Those detained have a lot to lose, there is incentive enough for them to start singing - passing the buck and showing (attempting to) that they are not part of the extremist fringe. Also those 21 arrested in KK face the death penalty for terrorism, not hard to make a deal there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmugghc Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I hope they get to the bottom and top of these gangs who killed children, incl at Big C in Bangkok. Unforgivable! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wolf5370 Posted May 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2014 Its called propaganda...hitler used it I think you need to take a long hard look in the mirror at who is spreading propoganda. Your accusations are completely unfounded. They have no basis in reality. You are just making up stories to fit your opinions. Pretty much sums up propaganda. Your accusations are completely unfounded. I will tell you what it is though….Godwin's law. You could start the OP with Mary Poppins umbrella and Godwin's law will kick in after a while. And this is not just 1 principle supporters that follow this law. 15 principle supporters do it too. I am even guilty of it. Lovely lovely coup. You are guilty of many things, such as being a total moron. 15 principles: what are they? No-one knows. Same as no-one knows what the fascist Suthep's reforms would be. Mind you, that's easy to find out: just watch what the Army does. Lovely lovely coup. Always is interesting how some like to call others morons, and then the very next statement show their complete ignorance! Anybody can know the principles of democracy, its not hard, its not a secret, it's why God gave us Google! Suthep's reforms were unknown, because - in case you slept for the last 6 months - they were to be worked out by an independent council! That was the point. If he had said, "Here are a list of my reforms the independent council will determine", then there would justifiably be an outcry from the likes of you. You can't have it both ways. I know integrity is something that is a hard concept for some of you to understand, but to jump on a soapbox and declare your misgivings to the world - and call other morons because you can't understand them - well makes you look a bit of a pillock really. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 The Army is the one groups who gets things DONE in Thailand! Yes the army gets it done...cleaning their own house before the trail goes back to them Is it me or does this smell like another propaganda excercise. The Op online 17.25 and in the course of today they have performed a major raid and found the gun and had a ballistics check blah de blah de blah and guess what its a match...christ almighty it does not happen that quick on CSI. And a dead ranger for sympathy. Have an automatic rifle and fire a shot gun..who does that Poor sods are not even adept at propaganda. No details or even the identities of the two arrested suspects were made public by the marines for fear that they might be killed to prevent them from making confession which might lead to the mastermind who ordered the attack of the PDRC protesters. fear they might be killed while they are in marine custody to prevent them making confession. You cant make this <deleted> up...Its Disney and some Since you sold the team a few years ago please stop using the shirt to spout your propaganda. I guess you where out in the sun to long before writing this stuff stay indoors in Dubai during the summer months better for your health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Good they have a couple of suspects in custody, now lets see where it leads. Im not sure how they can say the forensics of bullets match as yet or anything else but way to go in at least having someone. Now lets see if they squeal and give details of who ordered it. Oh and btw remember the military can do whatever they like, they dont have to take things through due process or the courts, when you can do whatever you want you can get stuff done far more under a coup. The only problem with that is there tends to be a lot of kangaroo courts and innocents routinely confess under torture to anything.. Just bare it in mind. True people do confess under torture, but chances of torture are also not that slim under the PTP controlled police. Under a coup stuff gets done but I honestly think that they had information before that they did not want to share with the police because of who they are aligned with. They could have tipped the suspects off. I think (guess) that the army has been making plans and gathering evidence for when the coup comes to swiftly go after the people responsible. But I can grantee one thing even with proof there will be plenty of red posters not believing it for sure. Have to agree. Looks like the military has been thinking about cleaning house for a while. You'll recall an awful lot of information and evidence has and was being handed over to the military rather than police over the past 6 mths. No doubt they have been building up pictures during that time. There is of course another reason its going on now and that is the army dont need warrants and can go in where and when they choose. This is the best time to use it while they can do anything outside the usual laws they want. The Police even had they wanted to could not do that. I am absolutely certain there are parties out there affiliated to political sides and are radical enough to have been using whatever means. What im really interested in is not the ground troops but the paymasters. I am however sceptical things will become that transparent here. I think its probably a good idea to keep in mind there is nothing legal in the civilian sense going on here, it could and probably will be at some point be called a purge. Lets hope if there is a purge it looks at ALL sides and cancer, but i dont think for a second it'll be like that. we can have dreams though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted May 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2014 Basic red shirt response.. it makes my side look bad so its not true. Thank god for the coup finally the lies of the PTP have gone silent and actions are being taken against terrorist. The police clearly knew everyone involved in most of these attacks... they just turned a blind eye so this vermin could continue. The police are as guilty as they are and I really hope that some are named by the captives in good time and I also hope the blame game continues all the way up the network to the UDD, Thaksin and the government. We are NOT stupid, we all know.... Its called propaganda...hitler used it On forums we debate and try not to drivel. Write a response where you counter my claims... scripted responses usually get short shrift from me...please be original in response to post 37 There is no evidence to suggest anything that you claim. If you have some evidence please share it. All your accusations and claims are simply that. Fine if that's your opinion, if you really believe that the Shins would not do such things. Others think differently, and base their opinion on previous behavior and tactics favored by the Shins and their great leader. Strange that the great Chalerm could predict the attacks but no one was ever caught. Indeed some people seemed to fall into the hands of the police and then be released without charge. It's possible that the military have been watching what was happening for sometime before they acted. It's possible that some of the reds have sung like canaries and that more and more will do likewise. It's possible that this time the trail will be followed all the way to the financier(s) and strategic thinker(s) behind these outrageous terrorist atrocities and it's possible you might not like the answer. I would suggest that as the weapons have been found in the possession of red shirts, and PTP officials; and as the vast majority of attacks were aimed at anyone opposing the Shin clan; and as the Shin controlled CAPO/DSI/RTP were unable to catch and charge anyone, that it's highly likely the military are presenting the truth and not involved in some elaborate mass conspiracy. Hitler certainly made use of propaganda - and had the eloquent Dr. Goebbels to orchestrate it for him. Thaksin employs PR firms, lobbyists and the 'lawyer" and representative of dictators Amsterdam. Now why do you think he spends large amounts of money on these specimens? That's right - Thaksin uses propaganda too! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmugghc Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Saksith Saiyasombut @Saksith 3h Very worrying to see police/authorities inciting hate against foreigners and foreign press…! :/ #ThaiCoup Direct from the scene Now where are those muppets that wanted a coup......best you leave this to the more politically astute posters Yes Sir, very much so Sir, will definitely leave this to such a politically astute poster like you Sir! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djjamie Posted May 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Lovely lovely coup. You are guilty of many things, such as being a total moron. 15 principles: what are they? No-one knows. Same as no-one knows what the fascist Suthep's reforms would be. Mind you, that's easy to find out: just watch what the Army does. Lovely lovely coup. Always is interesting how some like to call others morons, and then the very next statement show their complete ignorance! Anybody can know the principles of democracy, its not hard, its not a secret, it's why God gave us Google! Suthep's reforms were unknown, because - in case you slept for the last 6 months - they were to be worked out by an independent council! That was the point. If he had said, "Here are a list of my reforms the independent council will determine", then there would justifiably be an outcry from the likes of you. You can't have it both ways. I know integrity is something that is a hard concept for some of you to understand, but to jump on a soapbox and declare your misgivings to the world - and call other morons because you can't understand them - well makes you look a bit of a pillock really. I respect both your comments. In 91 days no arrests were made on the terrorist attacks in Trat under the PTP. The supporters of the PTP / UDD celebrated the attacks and deaths of these people with clapping and cheering. Reiterate, the supporters that clapped and cheered support a govt that did not arrest a single person involved in the deaths of innocent people including children. In 5 days under Junta rule where there is no agenda, 2 arrests were made and a gun positively identified in the attack. Is that good or not? Should they be arrested or should we sarcastically say "Lovely, lovely coup" Lets suggest hypothetically that the Junta arrest every guilty person that attacked the PDRC. Then lets suggest those arrested were red shirt supporters. Would people still demonize the army or suggest this is not a good coup? Should injustice and lack of accountability be allowed to flourish and the PTP defended while so much progress is made in making murderers or potential murderers accountable. Let facts speak for themselves. I have family in Thailand. Rest assured if anyone hurt my kids I would want them held accountable whether they were red shirts or PDRC. I don't care who did it, I would want them arressted. So when you say lovely coup my friend. I agree and I agree while looking at my son that is 4 years old and looking at me with an innocent face. I know that we are now living under a society where anyone that ever harms my child (heaven forbid) they will be held accountable. We did not have that 5 days ago. General Preyuth, you have mine and my wives undying respect. And this is why I support the coup and even though some may think my comments are provocative, rest assured they are not. I look at the picture of the below innocent victims and I thank god for Preyuth. I thank him for protecting all Thai's since the coup. Open the pic and look at it. Look in those kids eyes and tell me you would defend a govt that hide facts and obscure investigations into their deaths. Surely you have a heart. "lovely, lovely coup"? You bet ya anteater. You betya……. Edited May 26, 2014 by djjamie 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Steve Herman @W7VOA 3h Foreign media being targeted by police loudspeaker truck at Victory Monument anti-#ThaiCoup rally. Freedom of the press being slaughtered...Army cant control the free press Silly propagandist, here is the announcement from your reference.... Army loudspeaker: 'now more press than protesters. Please go home. See you tomorrow!' - he has a point. Lol, the friendly coup, only in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leesgems Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Firstly - RIP to the Ranger and condolences to the family. Very sad. I said it before and I will say it again. The perfect coup. The General was very very right in arresting the PTP and UDD leadership. Look at what they have been covering up. They are essentially condoning and allowing terrorism to flourish. This is not by the lack of arrests made or the amount of weapons seized in 7 month by the PTP, but by the amount the General's men have made and weapons seized in 5 days. With these swift and just arrests and seizures one can be assured that when the General makes his statement as to why he staged this coup you can be assured the names of PTP and UDD elements will be revealed and just like the General will not reveal names now to ensure it does not sour the current investigation he will not state the "nuts and bolts" for the reasons for the coup until the public are safe when all current investigations are completed. Chalerm and the PTP could learn a thing or two from this Genera Prayuth. First - How to keep promises as the rice payment. The General made one promise to pay in 3 weeks and the first payments happened 3 days after his promise. Secondly - Do not speak about ongoing investigations Chalerm. Do not jump over yourself to release names to the public. I bet the General will not say he will wear glasses and a fake mustache to arrest the others involved in the Trat attacks. Bravo General. Bravo old mate. As we are not allowed to post any anti-coup comments or replies (understandably) couldn't you refrain from posting provocative comments? You could be arrested and tried in a military court by insinuating that you are provoked by those positive statements....just sayin' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I respect both your comments. In 91 days no arrests were made on the terrorist attacks in Trat under the PTP. The supporters of the PTP / UDD celebrated the attacks and deaths of these people with clapping and cheering. Reiterate, the supporters that clapped and cheered support a govt that did not arrest a single person involved in the deaths of innocent people including children. In 5 days under Junta rule where there is no agenda, 2 arrests were made and a gun positively identified in the attack. Is that good or not? Should they be arrested or should we sarcastically say "Lovely, lovely coup" Lets suggest hypothetically that the Junta arrest every guilty person that attacked the PDRC. Then lets suggest those arrested were red shirt supporters. Would people still demonize the army or suggest this is not a good coup? Should injustice and lack of accountability be allowed to flourish and the PTP defended while so much progress is made in making murderers or potential murderers accountable. Let facts speak for themselves. I have family in Thailand. Rest assured if anyone hurt my kids I would want them held accountable whether they were red shirts or PDRC. I don't care who did it, I would want them arressted. So when you say lovely coup my friend. I agree and I agree while looking at my son that is 4 years old and looking at me with an innocent face. I know that we are now living under a society where anyone that ever harms my child (heaven forbid) they will be held accountable. We did not have that 5 days ago. General Preyuth, you have mine and my wives undying respect. And this is why I support the coup and even though some may think my comments are provocative, rest assured they are not. I look at the picture of the below innocent victims and I thank god for Preyuth. I thank him for protecting all Thai's since the coup. Open the pic and look at it. Look in those kids eyes and tell me you would defend a govt that hide facts and obscure investigations into their deaths. Surely you have a heart. "lovely, lovely coup"? You bet ya anteater. You betya……. All of them??? Firstly - RIP to the Ranger and condolences to the family. Very sad. I said it before and I will say it again. The perfect coup. The General was very very right in arresting the PTP and UDD leadership. Look at what they have been covering up. They are essentially condoning and allowing terrorism to flourish. This is not by the lack of arrests made or the amount of weapons seized in 7 month by the PTP, but by the amount the General's men have made and weapons seized in 5 days. With these swift and just arrests and seizures one can be assured that when the General makes his statement as to why he staged this coup you can be assured the names of PTP and UDD elements will be revealed and just like the General will not reveal names now to ensure it does not sour the current investigation he will not state the "nuts and bolts" for the reasons for the coup until the public are safe when all current investigations are completed. Chalerm and the PTP could learn a thing or two from this Genera Prayuth. First - How to keep promises as the rice payment. The General made one promise to pay in 3 weeks and the first payments happened 3 days after his promise. Secondly - Do not speak about ongoing investigations Chalerm. Do not jump over yourself to release names to the public. I bet the General will not say he will wear glasses and a fake mustache to arrest the others involved in the Trat attacks. Bravo General. Bravo old mate. As we are not allowed to post any anti-coup comments or replies (understandably) couldn't you refrain from posting provocative comments? You could be arrested and tried in a military court by insinuating that you are provoked by those positive statements....just sayin' It's a fair cop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 The organizers and financiers of these attacks must be real nervous right now. Follow the money. It will be real interesting to see where it leads. Any guesses? I wouldn't stake my life on any particular player OR side to be honest at this point. One can be honest, and ignorant, at the same time, as you just proved, or would you be some red denialist in disguise, maybe? No - I am in the same position as 99.999% of the country. I do not know without a shadow of a doubt who is behind each attack. I have my suspicions but I won't use that to spread rumors (and hatred) until proof comes up. When proof does come up, I will not put on my tin foil hat and call it a conspiracy either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackCedar Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 The organizers and financiers of these attacks must be real nervous right now. Follow the money. It will be real interesting to see where it leads. Any guesses? I wouldn't stake my life on any particular player OR side to be honest at this point. I certainly would..... ........ Stake Your life that is ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leesgems Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 The Army is the one groups who gets things DONE in Thailand! Yes the army gets it done...cleaning their own house before the trail goes back to them Is it me or does this smell like another propaganda excercise. The Op online 17.25 and in the course of today they have performed a major raid and found the gun and had a ballistics check blah de blah de blah and guess what its a match...christ almighty it does not happen that quick on CSI. And a dead ranger for sympathy. Have an automatic rifle and fire a shot gun..who does that Poor sods are not even adept at propaganda. No details or even the identities of the two arrested suspects were made public by the marines for fear that they might be killed to prevent them from making confession which might lead to the mastermind who ordered the attack of the PDRC protesters. fear they might be killed while they are in marine custody to prevent them making confession. You cant make this <deleted> up...Its Disney and some It is you, not a propaganda exercise. This military gets things done and does it right! Sorry they lost a soldier to the child killer but that karma will come back to him. Keep up the good work Prayuth, best thing that has happened to Thai politics possibly ever!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I respect both your comments. In 91 days no arrests were made on the terrorist attacks in Trat under the PTP. The supporters of the PTP / UDD celebrated the attacks and deaths of these people with clapping and cheering. Reiterate, the supporters that clapped and cheered support a govt that did not arrest a single person involved in the deaths of innocent people including children. In 5 days under Junta rule where there is no agenda, 2 arrests were made and a gun positively identified in the attack. Is that good or not? Should they be arrested or should we sarcastically say "Lovely, lovely coup" Lets suggest hypothetically that the Junta arrest every guilty person that attacked the PDRC. Then lets suggest those arrested were red shirt supporters. Would people still demonize the army or suggest this is not a good coup? Should injustice and lack of accountability be allowed to flourish and the PTP defended while so much progress is made in making murderers or potential murderers accountable. Let facts speak for themselves. I have family in Thailand. Rest assured if anyone hurt my kids I would want them held accountable whether they were red shirts or PDRC. I don't care who did it, I would want them arressted. So when you say lovely coup my friend. I agree and I agree while looking at my son that is 4 years old and looking at me with an innocent face. I know that we are now living under a society where anyone that ever harms my child (heaven forbid) they will be held accountable. We did not have that 5 days ago. General Preyuth, you have mine and my wives undying respect. And this is why I support the coup and even though some may think my comments are provocative, rest assured they are not. I look at the picture of the below innocent victims and I thank god for Preyuth. I thank him for protecting all Thai's since the coup. Open the pic and look at it. Look in those kids eyes and tell me you would defend a govt that hide facts and obscure investigations into their deaths. Surely you have a heart. "lovely, lovely coup"? You bet ya anteater. You betya……. All of them??? All of who mate? The innocent kids? The innocent protestors? My family? My kids? What are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bruce Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Condolences to the family of the para-military ranger killed by these scum bags. It is looking more positive with each new and quickly moving day that it might not be in vain. It is pleasing to see the amount of support that is now coming in for the junta from all corners. Including also in news clips today from the Shinawatra stronghold in the north where large groups of village headmen were thanking and showing their support for the Army Junta for the rice payments that are starting to flow today. Good work the Junta and the strong disciplined endeavor of a few days to step in the direction to right the years of abuse is being rightfully rewarded. The great thing about the Junta and their censorship of all news souces is that we finally get the truth from the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15Peter20 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I hope that all the army lovers out there apply the same stringent (by Thai standards) level of accountability and transparency they expected of the PTP to the current object of their affections. Okay, we may now have levels of freedom and transparency that makes the PTP tenure look like heaven, but we'll put that down to operational necessity. But the clock is ticking. How long will this honeymoon period last? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piichai Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 You'll recall an awful lot of information and evidence has and was being handed over to the military rather than police over the past 6 mths. No doubt they have been building up pictures during that time. There is of course another reason its going on now and that is the army dont need warrants and can go in where and when they choose. This is the best time to use it while they can do anything outside the usual laws they want. The Police even had they wanted to could not do that. I am absolutely certain there are parties out there affiliated to political sides and are radical enough to have been using whatever means. What im really interested in is not the ground troops but the paymasters. I am however sceptical things will become that transparent here. I think its probably a good idea to keep in mind there is nothing legal in the civilian sense going on here, it could and probably will be at some point be called a purge. Lets hope if there is a purge it looks at ALL sides and cancer, but i dont think for a second it'll be like that. we can have dreams though Have to agree with a few things you said as well. But I don't for a moment believe the police were doing everything they could. And even if search warrants are required, were they all quashed by Abdul and his cohorts? Either way, I shouldn't think it would make me feel any better about the police. What we've seen time and time again is that these people think they are untouchable; the "ground troops" (seemingly protected by the police) and the pay masters alike. I suspect now that they're being touched, they're not happy about it. Prayuth will get the "ground troops" first, and they will sing. And considering how widespread it is, it won't take long to get to the top. And don't forget about that car in Nakhon Nayok. I wouldn't be surprised to see it again in the news soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickyrice2000 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 PDRC? You mean all this time the Reds were blamed for nothing. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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