billd766 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 And the joke goes on. Just as it did when Jatuporn and Nattawut were to "ill" to go to the courts for their bail hearing. They did manage to make a miraculous "recovery" after their bail was renewed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozvenison Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) And the joke goes on. Just as it did when Jatuporn and Nattawut were to "ill" to go to the courts for their bail hearing. They did manage to make a miraculous "recovery" after their bail was renewed though. As did Suthep not attend in nov/dec because he was too busy running anti-govt campaign.. at least he wasn't sick Edited May 27, 2014 by ozvenison 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luger2 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Some cases seem to move double quick and others snail pace. All depends on which side you on and how fast the judiciary want you convicted and removed. Yep, still waiting for the Red Shirt cases from their July 2007 riot, a year and a half BEFORE the airport case,. Very slow processing for the Reds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Some cases seem to move double quick and others snail pace. All depends on which side you on and how fast the judiciary want you convicted and removed. Yep, still waiting for the Red Shirt cases from their July 2007 riot, a year and a half BEFORE the airport case,. Very slow processing for the Reds. I'm not sure what history books you are reading, unless they were written by Thai, but before PAD and their airport take over, there were no "red shirts". Nice try to rewrite history though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) What ever happened to trial in abstentia. Send their lawyers and get on with it. It's their choice to come and defend themselves. And on person one trial, not make all 100 show up together or it doesn't kick off. Just daft to hold off till all are there... Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Edited May 27, 2014 by animatic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luger2 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Some cases seem to move double quick and others snail pace. All depends on which side you on and how fast the judiciary want you convicted and removed. Yep, still waiting for the Red Shirt cases from their July 2007 riot, a year and a half BEFORE the airport case,. Very slow processing for the Reds. I'm not sure what history books you are reading, unless they were written by Thai, but before PAD and their airport take over, there were no "red shirts". Nice try to rewrite history though. Sorry, but your ignorance is showing. As said, Red Shirts. As said, a year and a half before the airport . Red shirts leaders appear in court August 23, 2010 Four Red Shirt leaders on Monday morning appeared at the Criminal Court to hear evidence against them involving alleged besieging the residence of Privy Council president and former prime minister Prem Tinsulanonda in 2007. The four suspects were Veera Musikapong, Nuttawut Saikua, Weng Tojirakarn and Wiphuthalaeng Phatthanaphumthai. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Red-shirts-leaders-appear-in-court-30136410.html Veera, Natthawut, Weng, Vipoonthalaeng plead innocence Four leaders of the red shirts Monday dismissed the charges of inciting violence in connection with the violent protest outside the residence of Privy Council President Prem Tinsulanonda in July 2007. Veera Musigapong, Natthawut Saikua, Vipoothalaeng Pattanapoomthai, and Weng Tojirakarn showed up at the Criminal Court Monday to be formally informed about the charges against them. They were charged with leading an unrest, threatening officials, and resisting orders to end their illegal protest. The four allegedly led thousands of red shirt protesters http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Veera-Natthawut-Weng-Vipoonthalaeng-pleads-innocen-30136416.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luger2 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Yep, still waiting for the Red Shirt cases from their July 2007 riot, a year and a half BEFORE the airport case,. Very slow processing for the Reds. I'm not sure what history books you are reading, unless they were written by Thai, but before PAD and their airport take over, there were no "red shirts". Nice try to rewrite history though. Sorry, but your ignorance is showing. As said, Red Shirts. As said, a year and a half before the airport . Red shirts leaders appear in court August 23, 2010 Four Red Shirt leaders on Monday morning appeared at the Criminal Court to hear evidence against them involving alleged besieging the residence of Privy Council president and former prime minister Prem Tinsulanonda in 2007. The four suspects were Veera Musikapong, Nuttawut Saikua, Weng Tojirakarn and Wiphuthalaeng Phatthanaphumthai. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Red-shirts-leaders-appear-in-court-30136410.html Veera, Natthawut, Weng, Vipoonthalaeng plead innocence Four leaders of the red shirts Monday dismissed the charges of inciting violence in connection with the violent protest outside the residence of Privy Council President Prem Tinsulanonda in July 2007. Veera Musigapong, Natthawut Saikua, Vipoothalaeng Pattanapoomthai, and Weng Tojirakarn showed up at the Criminal Court Monday to be formally informed about the charges against them. They were charged with leading an unrest, threatening officials, and resisting orders to end their illegal protest. The four allegedly led thousands of red shirt protesters http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Veera-Natthawut-Weng-Vipoonthalaeng-pleads-innocen-30136416.html Lugar, Lugar, Lugar -- first you are talking about 2007, then try to prove your point about 2007 with a story from 2010. The iPAD took the airport in 2006. Then there is a partial quote from 2007, where you truncated the rest of the story (where the people from the red shirts charged actually appeared). More ignorance on display. The Red Shirt riot occurred in July 2007. The articles about the Red Shirt case from July 2007 are from 2010 (it doesn't change that it occurred in 2007, just that the cases were still ongoing in 2010). The airport case occurred in December 2008, not in 2006. The Red Shirt cases from 2007 have still not been adjudicated and pre-date the airport case by a year and a half. Try not to show your ignorance if can you help it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piichai Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 The UDD first formed in 2006 to oppose the military government and the military coup, which overthrew Thaksin five weeks before scheduled elections. The truth is out there... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabruce Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 All 96 of them are ill and wanted by NCPO and DSI? So another of them will be ill at 10am on the 15th December. Pathetic. The justice department and specifically the criminal court also needs immediate reform. The article states that some of them are currently detained by the NCPO and DSI. So they are physically unable to attend unless the NCPO and DSI release them. So some sick, some in detention, and possibly some able to attend. SOME!... you are kidding me You think they are all in detention? They all are sick? They all are able to attend? So no, I'm not kidding you. The article seems to state that some are in detention and so cannot attend. Maybe the writer is lying and they aren't in detention. I do agree with you that all of them CANNOT be too sick to attend if that is your point, and the number of sick might be zero or 1 and would certainly not be a large number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Just delaying tactics, there is no need to get everyone in the same place at the same time, trial in absentia is the obvious or plea by absentia... Watch it tick away the time until statute of limitations is up. Not unusual here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) The UDD first formed in 2006 to oppose the military government and the military coup, which overthrew Thaksin five weeks before scheduled elections. The truth is out there... And they existed without' umbrella shirts' as the same large sub-groups before that, including Rak Chaing mai and Caravan Of The Poor, causing the same troubles, before becoming red shirt factions. Plus the cores of these groups were intimidating Democratic rallies in Issan, before Thai Rak Thai TRT landed Thaksin the premiership... Caravan of the Poor invaded The Nations building to intimidate during Thaksin 1, their prosecutions still awaiting now.... Nothing new with these people except their changes of team names to suit their masters whims. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Edited May 28, 2014 by animatic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I think this is a good opportunity for General Prayuth. He has an image problem in that coups and military rule are often seen as involving tanks and running gun battles. That's not the case here but it's what potential tourists will think of. The western democracies don't like it either and they don't like mass round ups of people or suppression of the media. He's relaxed the curfew which is good but he could do with concentrating on incitement of violence in social media and let news media (particularly from the western nations) report what is actually happening as if he does things right a lot of the news will be good. suppressing the media and criticism is often worse than the criticism itself. If we take him at his word he doesn't want military rule either as he says he plans on elections. He's perceived by the pro government supporters as being against them and only targeting them. The trouble is the reds are the ones most likely to be gathering arms for attacks as they are the ones who lost their government whilst the PDRC probably see the coup as a victory so they aren't complaining. He can't help it if the army only find red weapons. With these cases he has a chance to show he isn't biased. He controls the DSI and the NCPO so those that are detained can just be brought to court . As for those too ill he can order independent medical assessments. He could also look at the courts more generally to make them balanced and quicker. I don't know if 96 separate cases are a viable proposition bearing in mind how slowly things are going anyway. He has the power now so all he needs to do is be fair and do what he claims he wants to do and if it broadly works then maybe he will be remembered as someone who helped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Next thing will be issuing blanket amnesty to them all. Predictable really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piichai Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Next thing will be issuing blanket amnesty to them all. Predictable really. Well, you wouldn't be the only one thinking they should be rewarded for their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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