Teak on ex-MP's land 'cleared'

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Teak on ex-MP's land 'cleared'
Patinya Srisupamart
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Officials are preparing to release teak boards and logs found on a former MP's land in Chiang Mai last week back to their owner after they were shown to have been legally acquired.

The former MP is Yodchanan Wongsawat, son of former prime minister Somchai and a nephew of former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

Yodchana's mother Yaowapha is also an influential national politician.

Suthep Pavareswityaral, director of the Forest Resource Management Office 1, said yesterday that suspicion was aroused because the owner did not file a report to his office about moving the wood. "In fact, the owner must notify us," he said.

A local contractor, Sombat Phromsane, produced permits for transporting the wood, which he said he bought from a villager in Tak district and stored at the Wongsawat compound for four months, as he was planning to build a house with it. He said he borrowed the compound through his connection with a housemaid of Yaowapa.

Officials from Tak have already showed up to reassure authorities that the teak came from an old house in the western province. "The house was disassembled and transported out of Tak. I can testify to that," said Boonrak Fak-orn, an official whose mark is imprinted on the logs and boards.


-- The Nation 2014-06-02

[Stradavarius37]

In other news - Officials in Tak province have been seen driving around in brand new BMWs and Mercs....

[GoodThaiGirl]

its not right that im still not convinced ....cynical...damn right.i am..good morning everyone..

[Prbkk]

Just part of the " I saw Rebecca Nurse dance with the devil" strategy. expect more to follow.

[ScreamingEagle101]

So, the economy has gotten so bad that a Shin relative has to rent out land at his house. Now that I know that I feel so sorry for him, life is so unfair.

[aussieinthailand]

So why can't all you who came out gun's blazing and crying the shins this the shins that admit you judged and you were WRONG!!!

GEEZZZ not the first time huh?

the OP stated that all the documents were produced and still you cry foul, you make me laugh AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHa

[NongKhaiKid]

So why can't all you who came out gun's blazing and crying the shins this the shins that admit you judged and you were WRONG!!!

GEEZZZ not the first time huh?

the OP stated that all the documents were produced and still you cry foul, you make me laugh AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHa

Of course there's no question the documents were genuine, after all there's no such thing as fake, false or forged paperwork in LoS.

[EyesWideOpen]

In the land of deceit, it can be hard to believe things.... I am not buying any of this .

A contractor storing timber on his land because he has a " connection" with the maid?

Does that make sense to anyone ???? If things were on the up and up, then why did

this ever come up ? A massive loss of face and national bad news. I think someone got

busted, money was transferred, and now out of the blue comes the " correct paperwork".

Since investigative reporting does not actually exist here, odds are we will never know

the real story here. Can only conjecture based upon past stories, such as all the phony

land ownership documents that came out of the Phuket land office, enabling well

connected people to steal land...

Edited June 2, 2014 by EyesWideOpen

[ramrod711]

If you saw the wood on the news, some of it was older some of it was freshly sawn, not used wood. Possible that the fresh stuff was not teak though.

[IamNoone88]

Sometimes it is difficult to see the wood from the trees. Nuff said.

[Prbkk]

So why can't all you who came out gun's blazing and crying the shins this the shins that admit you judged and you were WRONG!!!

GEEZZZ not the first time huh?

the OP stated that all the documents were produced and still you cry foul, you make me laugh AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHa

They will never admit error. They will continue to moan, whinge, bitch till the cows come home, The are graduates of the Goebells Institute of PR

Edited June 2, 2014 by Prbkk

[steelepulse]

It appears the original tea money wasn't enough, otherwise this would never have even seen the light. Good thing the tea money was topped up and papers declared legit.

[looping]

So why can't all you who came out gun's blazing and crying the shins this the shins that admit you judged and you were WRONG!!!

GEEZZZ not the first time huh?

the OP stated that all the documents were produced and still you cry foul, you make me laugh AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHa

They will never admit error. They will continue to moan, whinge, bitch till the cows come home,

The original report must have been an honest mistake.

Shame on people for thinking that this family would be doing anything above the law.

Moving on with more important issues...

How many honest mistakes does it take to lose 500,000,000,000 THB? (Off topic I know but just for some context).

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Edited June 2, 2014 by looping

[UbonRatch]

If the pictures posted in various media were truly representative, then how is an ancient house made from newly felled logs - still with bark and kind of sort of weirdly still trunk shaped with sap still weeping?

And don't say I'm barking up the wrong tree. This stinks of more attempted and continued corruption from the Shitn family MEMBERS!

[Pimay1]

He said he borrowed the compound through his connection with a housemaid of Yaowapa.

hmm, maid, maid, connection with a housemaid. It's early and I'm on my first cup but I seem to remember something about another connection with a housemaid working for a family with the same name back in 2001 involving millions of dollars. Or maybe I'm just dreaming again.

[thesetat2013]

So why can't all you who came out gun's blazing and crying the shins this the shins that admit you judged and you were WRONG!!!

GEEZZZ not the first time huh?

the OP stated that all the documents were produced and still you cry foul, you make me laugh AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHa

Because the fat lady has started singing yet. What about all the illegal wood found at Thaks sisters house. No way those logs came from a dilapidated house.

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[aussieinthailand]

So why can't all you who came out gun's blazing and crying the shins this the shins that admit you judged and you were WRONG!!!

GEEZZZ not the first time huh?

the OP stated that all the documents were produced and still you cry foul, you make me laugh AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHa

Of course there's no question the documents were genuine, after all there's no such thing as fake, false or forged paperwork in LoS.

Sure questionable documents are used here often.

What I am saying is that some people here will try to find a problem were there isn't one, instead of concentrating on facts,

of course considering the high profile of the country and it former politicians that all investigations will be looked at in far greater detail.

Now just WHO declared the documents legit? and who made the claim that the wood was illegally acquired and the motive for doing so?

[Baerboxer]

Just part of the " I saw Rebecca Nurse dance with the devil" strategy. expect more to follow.

You mean a bit like Tarit and Chalerm were doing then?

[Dogmatix]

If you control the whole government, how difficult would it be to get a lowly government official on 20k a month to sign documents asserting that the logs came from an old house? Must be some carrots and sticks that can be applied.

[Baerboxer]

So why can't all you who came out gun's blazing and crying the shins this the shins that admit you judged and you were WRONG!!!

GEEZZZ not the first time huh?

the OP stated that all the documents were produced and still you cry foul, you make me laugh AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHa

They will never admit error. They will continue to moan, whinge, bitch till the cows come home, The are graduates of the Goebells Institute of PR

Like to rivalry between Oxford and Cambridge. You must have graduated from the Soviet institute of people's truth and enlightenment. Or was it Mao's?

[pee paub]

Do you expect Khun Boonrak to say, "My mark is imprinted on the logs and boards because I was paid a very large sum of money" ?

[Dogmatix]

So why can't all you who came out gun's blazing and crying the shins this the shins that admit you judged and you were WRONG!!!

GEEZZZ not the first time huh?

the OP stated that all the documents were produced and still you cry foul, you make me laugh AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHa

They will never admit error. They will continue to moan, whinge, bitch till the cows come home, The are graduates of the Goebells Institute of PR

Presumably you also rushed to Abhisit's defence when he produced documents to prove that he had legally been exempted from military service which satisfied the army but was hounded by the Thaksin government that ordered the Defence Ministry to dismiss him retroactively in spite fo the army's own ruling.

[Dogmatix]

We are talking about a family with a known history of criminality and hiding behind domestic servants. It is not surprising that readers don't give them the benefit of the doubt.

[Baerboxer]

If you control the whole government, how difficult would it be to get a lowly government official on 20k a month to sign documents asserting that the logs came from an old house? Must be some carrots and sticks that can be applied.

Hmmm. As one poster remarks, strange an old house was built from logs that still had bark and sap flowing.

I though someone might want to check the age of the wood?

But hey, all is in order. The contractor has the right paperwork, the housemaid got permission for him for store the timber on land belonging to her helpful employers and those nice officials came from where it was bought to confirm the story. All seems very straightforward and normal - everything in order, all documentation readily available and all the people involved coming forward so quickly and explaining it.

[tx22cb]

So why can't all you who came out gun's blazing and crying the shins this the shins that admit you judged and you were WRONG!!!

GEEZZZ not the first time huh?

the OP stated that all the documents were produced and still you cry foul, you make me laugh AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHa

Of course there's no question the documents were genuine, after all there's no such thing as fake, false or forged paperwork in LoS.

Not in this case.

An unabashed full-blown anti-Thaksin witchhunt has been green-lighted, so all documents would have gone over with a toothcomb for signs of anything non-kosher.

A few false accusations are unfortunate collateral damage.

I wish the Coup leaders could be more subtle about this pogrom - at least attempt to make it a bit less embarrassingly obvious!

[tomacht8]

Then this must be probably all correct.

But in Thailand one genuine document is often used for a variety of illegal operations.
There was actually this old teak house. Disassembled and equipped with offical documents.
The possible misuse of this authentic document for other illegal timber transports can not be excluded.
For example, how can a normal traffic cop know if the declared wood corresponds with the actual loaded timber?
The tracking systems here are not so sophisticated.
A residual doubt exists.

[Dogmatix]

The documents proving that large shipments of rice were exported to China are also beyond reproach because they were signed by a Commerce Minister, a deputy Commerce Minister and 13 senior bureaucrats in the Foreign Trade Department. LOL.

[scorecard]

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Just part of the " I saw Rebecca Nurse dance with the devil" strategy. expect more to follow.

sunmunnaa

You starts fires, watch out for the smoke of all fires.

[harrry]

The documents proving that large shipments of rice were exported to China are also beyond reproach because they were signed by a Commerce Minister, a deputy Commerce Minister and 13 senior bureaucrats in the Foreign Trade Department. LOL.

But where is the money from them.

[Dogmatix]

Then this must be probably all correct.

But in Thailand one genuine document is often used for a variety of illegal operations.

There was actually this old teak house. Disassembled and equipped with offical documents.

The possible misuse of this authentic document for other illegal timber transports can not be excluded.

For example, how can a normal traffic cop know if the declared wood corresponds with the actual loaded timber?

The tracking systems here are not so sophisticated.

A residual doubt exists.

It's in the Sermon on the Mount.

And the Lord Thaksin saw that his followers were homeless and in need of shelter.

So the Lord went to Tak and blessed an old teak house and told it to go forth and multiply.

The heavens darkened and government officials were struck with awe at the Lord's bountiful generosity.

The house was reborn as 5,000 new teak houses to provide shelter for the Lord Thaksin's shivering followers.