KarenBravo Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Depends what happens when the army leaves. Doomsayer. Definitely. From experience, not by choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Depends what happens when the army leaves. Doomsayer. Definitely. From experience, not by choice. No doubt they are all just marking time until all this blows over then back to business as usual. Sadly, that is the most likely outcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 As far as the beaches are concerned, I can't see any of the big players spending money on illegally structures again. A few huts might spring up, but wouldn't last long. The criminal Tuk Tuk guys are still showing signs of non acceptance, and are likely to be recalcitrant after martial law ends, although much could depend on charges laid and sentences served now. Optimistically, I don't think the army will do all the hard work over the next 15 months to bring a happier, fairer country ,and then walk away without leaving systems in place to thwart people trying to revert to their old criminal ways. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezer9889 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I have noticed a decline in our business revenue starting about 5+ years ago. We weathered SARS, Bird Flu, Tsunami, and other natural disasters. My view is the decline set in with the start of global recession in about 2007 - 2008. The political situation did not help, and especially the closure of various international airports in Thailand. With the internet social medium all the scam problems here in Phuket became well documented and available for reading by any potential visitor.I'm surprised that tourism has held up as well as it has I'm retired and have never invested or owned a business in Thailand, so readers may take my comments and observations with a grain of salt. My last trip back to the US was in late 2011 and I was shocked at how many people in ther 40s, and older, were working at McDonalds. Those jobs used to be filled by high school kids and now adults are scrambling for them. Any way you slice it folks don't take many trips abroad on McDs wages I am always silently observing and I see the wide eyed tourists gushing at how lovely Thailand is while I listen to the tuk tuk drivers laugh at the exorbitant price they just charged a foreigner.To each his own but the more I hear about how wonderful Thailand is and how the junta will resolve all the problems, I'm thinking about my own Plan B Your trip to USA in 2011, will look much like today, older people working in fast food places and where ever they can get work. In 2014 the US economy is still about the same, regardless what the medias try to tell us. The US debt is larger again this year, and not smaller by any means. Thailand is still a popular Tourist destination, and will stay that wayfor at least 5 or 10 years, because the other Asian countries around Thailand also have their internal problems, and security and economic situations. Phuket does need to clean up the corruption issues though, as that will affect the tourist numbers.Stargeezer9889 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bulldozer Dawn Posted June 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) I am suprised the Tuk Tuks have lasted as long as they have. The strong work ethic and ambition so prevelant amongst Thai men saw many of the drivers frustrated with sitting around all day waiting for that one big skim. Thus, I am confident that these go getters will now embrace this opportunity to move into more gainful employment where their skills, motivation, and hard work will be properly utilised. Why would anyone want to hang around all day, smoking, drinking, taking drugs and sleeping when you could be out in the 38 degree heat planting rice. Edited June 18, 2014 by Bulldozer Dawn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSabai Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I am suprised the Tuk Tuks have lasted as long as they have. The strong work ethic and ambition so prevelant amongst Thai men saw many of the drivers frustrated with sitting around all day waiting for that one big skim. Thus, I am confident that these go getters will now embrace this opportunity to move into more gainful employment where their skills, motivation, and hard work will be properly utilised. Why would anyone want to hang around all day, smoking, drinking, taking drugs and sleeping when you could be out in the 38 degree heat planting rice. Why do you restrict your comment to Thai men only? Is it fair to judge the entire male population on these few tuk tuk guys? Would you judge the entire female population based on the bar girls that essentially do the same thing; lay around and sleep all day, sitting around at the bars all night "waiting for that one big skim"? Bit unfair and judgmental I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felt 35 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Depends what happens when the army leaves. Doomsayer. Definitely. From experience, not by choice. No doubt they are all just marking time until all this blows over then back to business as usual. Sadly, that is the most likely outcome. Unfortunately I have to agree with Kata, Its not so much about Phuket but more about history and characteristic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebruce Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Average tourist demographic (one-time only visitor)...ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1401864978.116113.jpg That's a quality tourist, see them everyday.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96tehtarp Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Phuket is already exploding at the seams. They are scrambling to catch up to handle the growth (i.e. the underground Central Festival bypass) and we all know how nothing in Thailand gets done in a hurry. And if it does...the quality & safety suffer. My wife was born & raised in Phuket and she said she barely recognizes it anymore. It's glory days as a beautiful island have been replaced by a tourist trap that's resources are tapped out. I stopped going to Phuket 15+ years ago. The nail in the coffin for me was when the runway at HKT airport was lengthened to facilitate wide body jets (charter flights). It was once the best place for beach holidaying in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uli65 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 the same shity place like now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khounteen Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Are the current changes positive or negative for the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) Very positive, unless you are incapable of enjoying a beach that is not buried under loungers and umbrellas....... Edited August 2, 2014 by KarenBravo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Are the current changes positive or negative for the future? Does anyone really think these current changes will continue forever. In a year or so it will be back to business as usual. The creep will start as soon as the high season begins this year. That's assuming there will be a vibrant high season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khounteen Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I am asking because a few posters before have condemned Phuket and even likened it to a sewer. Changes takes time and I think it all will come along slowly but surely, after all its just 2 months since the coup. Previous coup leaders just changed the constitution and laws as they see fit but I can see that this is different, they actually enforced bylaws and try to clean up the corruption that had been so ingrained in the thai system. It will take time to clean out the decades of corrupted practices but they are going in the right direction and doing what many before dare not do. As for the Phuket as it was 20 years ago, unfortunately it is already long gone. Development is necessary to accommodate the growing population and visitors (albeit it MUST be controlled). Those who compared Phuket to new beaches in Burma, Cambodia, Vietnam and other places better reread the history of Phuket. Corruption and check and balances at those locations are like Thailand in the 80's, what makes you so sure that what happened to Phuket will not happen there? There exists an elite clique in some of those countries that are more unaccountable than those you see in Thailand, even the police are scared of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzai99 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Unless they turn the sun off, and there are not plenty of poor SE Asian women to exploit, the tourists will keep coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benalibina Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Phuket will always bounce back. The true pity is that such a nice island could really be a world class destination for people of all walks of life. Whether tourists or expats. Unfortunately thai culture, mentality and structure of its society, read lack of vision a.o., holds it back. Apparantly visitors are content with the negatives to keep coming (back), for a while. When they move on newcomers will arrive and it all keeps the cycle going and going. Its like this since the mid nineties. For me its the place where i felt home when landing or arriving with the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khounteen Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Phuket will always bounce back. The true pity is that such a nice island could really be a world class destination for people of all walks of life. Whether tourists or expats. Unfortunately thai culture, mentality and structure of its society, read lack of vision a.o., holds it back. Apparantly visitors are content with the negatives to keep coming (back), for a while. When they move on newcomers will arrive and it all keeps the cycle going and going. Its like this since the mid nineties. For me its the place where i felt home when landing or arriving with the car. For the past 15 years or so I have traveled and lived in Thailand on and off, sometimes up to few months. The places that I like are the villages where life is simple and relaxed where everyone knows just about everyone. These are the charms of a small village. The moment I walk out of the airport or border post it is like leaving all your problems and worries behind. I am still seriously thinking of a permanent move there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 What will Phuket be like in 5-10 years from now? It's spelling will have changed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laolover88 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) Phuket. Samui?WATERI lived in Phuket in the golden years. Dirt Roads. Patong Market. Empty Beach. Bars as Cast Iron shacks!Lack of water will kill Phuket and Samui. IMO Edited August 3, 2014 by laolover88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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