steve0367 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Hi Guys, I am just about to start this process with my partner. I am not sure if I should go with de facto or pmv. we have been together since Dec 2012, although we are not married we have been engaged since July 2014. She has travelled here to oz on 3 x 3mth Tourist Visas over the last 2 years and I have visited her in Thailand 8 times Totalling 140 days many of them at the family home in her village. I live and work in Australia she lives in Thailand supported by me. I guess my question is do you think I would qualify as a de facto in the eyes of DIBP? As the cost is now $8585 AUD (includes her daughter) I do not want to screw this up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz2013 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Hi Guys, I am just about to start this process with my partner. I am not sure if I should go with de facto or pmv. we have been together since Dec 2012, although we are not married we have been engaged since July 2014. She has travelled here to oz on 3 x 3mth Tourist Visas over the last 2 years and I have visited her in Thailand 8 times Totalling 140 days many of them at the family home in her village. I live and work in Australia she lives in Thailand supported by me. I guess my question is do you think I would qualify as a de facto in the eyes of DIBP? As the cost is now $8585 AUD (includes her daughter) I do not want to screw this up They are very strict on 12 months co habitation... so you dont qualify! Getting married means you dont have to prove living together for 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Hi Guys, I am just about to start this process with my partner. I am not sure if I should go with de facto or pmv. we have been together since Dec 2012, although we are not married we have been engaged since July 2014. She has travelled here to oz on 3 x 3mth Tourist Visas over the last 2 years and I have visited her in Thailand 8 times Totalling 140 days many of them at the family home in her village. I live and work in Australia she lives in Thailand supported by me. I guess my question is do you think I would qualify as a de facto in the eyes of DIBP? As the cost is now $8585 AUD (includes her daughter) I do not want to screw this up Any questions you have concerning partner visa, de-facto or otherwise, dependent child together with the criteria & required documentation should be answered by reading the booklet at the URL below. https://www.border.gov.au/Forms/Documents/1127.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopro Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 8, 2015 Hi Guys, I am just about to start this process with my partner. I am not sure if I should go with de facto or pmv. we have been together since Dec 2012, although we are not married we have been engaged since July 2014. She has travelled here to oz on 3 x 3mth Tourist Visas over the last 2 years and I have visited her in Thailand 8 times Totalling 140 days many of them at the family home in her village. I live and work in Australia she lives in Thailand supported by me. I guess my question is do you think I would qualify as a de facto in the eyes of DIBP? As the cost is now $8585 AUD (includes her daughter) I do not want to screw this up You can be defacto and not living together full time. You must prove you have been defacto for 12 months prior to application lodgement. I did this. There's a couple of things you need to keep in mind, like proof of this and the criteria for this is lengthy. There is way around without getting married. Shoot me a PM for more info if you like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootsnugget Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Hi all, Have just read the 29 pages of anxiety and frustration and amazing bouts of patience displayed by the majority of posters. I am planning on submitting a partner migration subclass 309 / 100 application in BKK in the coming weeks. After a 3 yr relationship, me 2 years living in BKK and 1- 3 month tourist visa visit to OZ for her. My questions are, 1) is there a consensus on using a migration agent or not? 2) how do we best show paper evidence of "JOINT" relations, we havent seemsed to accumulate any real written joint ecidence such as pwer bills, bank accounts etc... Sure we can get the stat decs.. social media conversation strings, photos etc... 3) The police and hospital checks, are there forms needed before application for these or are they given after application? I see there is no price difference now whether applying on shore or offshore, it's now a very expensive $6895 per application. Cheers in advance for any contemporary advice, tips or experiences. Boots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopro Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 1. I loved the process myself I became an agent :-) Use one only if they are registered in OZ, https://www.mara.gov.au/ for your own peace of mind and use one that is experienced. 2. That is hard, I was lucky to have most records electronically, travel, financials, social, you can use friends from oz. Gather anything and everything. 3. Police, you do after you apply, they give you a letter, (that was my worst experience) medical can be done after you apply also but they both must be done before decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootsnugget Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Thanks for the quick reply, Gopro. So will things like joint wedding invitations (to other peoples weddings), gym membership? Plane ticket reciepts and travel itineraries help? I did use the "email conversation" option on whats app and viber so have records of 2.5yrs of conversations over social media both meaningful and meaningless 555. Regarding official translations, for instance the thai birth certificate.. needs to be translated to English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz2013 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Thanks for the quick reply, Gopro. So will things like joint wedding invitations (to other peoples weddings), gym membership? Plane ticket reciepts and travel itineraries help? I did use the "email conversation" option on whats app and viber so have records of 2.5yrs of conversations over social media both meaningful and meaningless 555. Regarding official translations, for instance the thai birth certificate.. needs to be translated to English? Hey Boots! We used an agent and he's been worth every cent. Yes anything with both ypur names on.. anything at all! Flights, hotels, invitations photos of jmportant times like xmas songkran loy krathong letters and emails from family general receipts of travels ... Yes everything needs to be translated into english with the official stamp. Police check is the most painful experience of the whole visa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootsnugget Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Hi larz, Thanks for your reply. Yes I read that you had loads of issues with the police report. So I spent nearly 2 years here, 2013/2014. That will mean I need a Thai police check too? Re. The translations, is there someone you used here in BKK that you can recommend? Cheers Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will27 Posted November 17, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2015 Hi all, Have just read the 29 pages of anxiety and frustration and amazing bouts of patience displayed by the majority of posters. I am planning on submitting a partner migration subclass 309 / 100 application in BKK in the coming weeks. After a 3 yr relationship, me 2 years living in BKK and 1- 3 month tourist visa visit to OZ for her. My questions are, 1) is there a consensus on using a migration agent or not? 2) how do we best show paper evidence of "JOINT" relations, we havent seemsed to accumulate any real written joint ecidence such as pwer bills, bank accounts etc... Sure we can get the stat decs.. social media conversation strings, photos etc... 3) The police and hospital checks, are there forms needed before application for these or are they given after application? I see there is no price difference now whether applying on shore or offshore, it's now a very expensive $6895 per application. Cheers in advance for any contemporary advice, tips or experiences. Boots You will get various answers when it comes to using an agent or not. Basically, the spouse application isn't that hard. If you have a reasonably straight forward case and are ok at doing paper-work, I recommend saving some coin and do it yourself. Some people don't have the time or inclination to do it themself so use an agent. Don't forget, it's you who still has to provide most of the paper-work and running around anyway. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz2013 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Hi larz, Thanks for your reply. Yes I read that you had loads of issues with the police report. So I spent nearly 2 years here, 2013/2014. That will mean I need a Thai police check too? Re. The translations, is there someone you used here in BKK that you can recommend? Cheers Boots Yeah thats correct! We didnt use any translators in Bkk sorry, we live in the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootsnugget Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Hi Will, Thanks, yes I can see the majority of the work is still carried out by us not them. So are any of these transaltion places able to be used? Like in trendy building below VIS or do we need to use certain, registered ones? Cheers Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopro Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 Translators here https://www.naati.com.au/home_page.html I used one that was travelling bwteen BKK and OZ, she was very quick and did a discount for the tonne of docs that need translating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machans88 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I have a quick question, I am about to start partner migration process ,we live in Thailand now for 5years with our two young children who are both now Australian citizens by descent. The application will therefore only be for her ,does that mean I wont have to worry about a police check here in Thailand,although they are under 18,they are not part of the migration process because they are aussies any way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody087 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I have a quick question, I am about to start partner migration process ,we live in Thailand now for 5years with our two young children who are both now Australian citizens by descent. The application will therefore only be for her ,does that mean I wont have to worry about a police check here in Thailand,although they are under 18,they are not part of the migration process because they are aussies any way? they are oz citizens already so no police check needed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie01 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Hi All we started the clock today by lodging a 309 partner visa and also a subclass 600 tourist visa at VFS today . As a bit of background info I have lived in Thailand for almost 3 years , together with my partner for almost all of that and we have an 11 month old daughter who already has her Australian citizenship by decent. We are hoping to use the 12 month tourist visa to cover the gap between now and getting the 309 granted. Also we were told medicals and police checks can be done in Australia when the time comes. Anyone in a similar situation to ours ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machans88 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Hi All we started the clock today by lodging a 309 partner visa and also a subclass 600 tourist visa at VFS today . As a bit of background info I have lived in Thailand for almost 3 years , together with my partner for almost all of that and we have an 11 month old daughter who already has her Australian citizenship by decent. We are hoping to use the 12 month tourist visa to cover the gap between now and getting the 309 granted. Also we were told medicals and police checks can be done in Australia when the time comes. Anyone in a similar situation to ours ? Will be soon ,just gathering all the forms now, been living here 6 years have a four year old and 11month old,sold our house so will have cash to bring back as well,we wont worry about,tourist visa ,will wait it out here, I wil follow your progress,good luck and keep posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve0367 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Hi all we put our application in last wednesday at vfs in Bkk, so now the waiting game starts. Was told by the guys at vfs we could expect action within 3 months. But not holding my breath on that statement. Their reasoning is that they had to contact the embassy before they would accept our application because I wouldn't change to prospective partner or a a defacto partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) Hi all we put our application in last wednesday at vfs in Bkk, so now the waiting game starts. Was told by the guys at vfs we could expect action within 3 months. But not holding my breath on that statement. Their reasoning is that they had to contact the embassy before they would accept our application because I wouldn't change to prospective partner or a a defacto partner. Out of curiosity why did you decline signing off the relationship criteria for sponsoring your partner? Once an application has been accepted for processing usual timeline is around nine - twelve months before a final decision, has this timeline changed? Edited January 11, 2016 by simple1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopro Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Hi all we put our application in last wednesday at vfs in Bkk, so now the waiting game starts. Was told by the guys at vfs we could expect action within 3 months. But not holding my breath on that statement. Their reasoning is that they had to contact the embassy before they would accept our application because I wouldn't change to prospective partner or a a defacto partner. What did you say you were if your not defacto or prospective? Married? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve0367 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I could not prove defacto and I planned to get married in April, hence the info on the web says to apply as a partner if planing to get married before a decision is likely to be made on the visa. For some reason vfs wouldn't accept our application before ringing the embassy. Any way after going to MFA with my translated state dec, passport and divorce certificate. They told me that the divorce certificate was not required and these papers where only good for one month. My plan was to get married in April! So we went to Bang Rak and was turned away then we tried Lak Si and now I am married and have to change all the details on the visa Application Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootsnugget Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Hi all, back again. Slowly compiling evidence and documents at the moment for partner visa application. This question is in regards to statements from friends. So if I have two good friends of mine, that are both living here in Thailand, write a statement to the effect of they have known me for so long and us as a couple for x amount of years etc... These then have to be witnessed or verified by who here in Thailand? Also, if some family members back in Australia do something similiar, can this be signed and emailed by them and printed by me in Bangkok and added to the documentary evidence? Cheers in advance for any helpful guidance. G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopro Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 They will work on proviso they are Oz citizens. Originals always prefered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopro Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Jp in OZ or embassy in Bkk is technically your only certifiers or a regional Oz office in LOS will do it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rws85 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I am looking at applying for a partner visa and trying to decide if I should apply online using ImmiAccount or go into VFS to apply. I am wondering how you go about attaching documents to the online account? Do I need to go to the embassy to get a certified copy of my passport/my babies birth certificate etc.. As I am staying in Pattaya if I have to go to the embassy in Bangkok, I think it would be just as easy to go apply in person at VFS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) I am looking at applying for a partner visa and trying to decide if I should apply online using ImmiAccount or go into VFS to apply. I am wondering how you go about attaching documents to the online account? Do I need to go to the embassy to get a certified copy of my passport/my babies birth certificate etc.. As I am staying in Pattaya if I have to go to the embassy in Bangkok, I think it would be just as easy to go apply in person at VFS? Attaching a document to the Immi Account requires scanning and then using browser for attaching. However, have a read of the content at the URL below, could be a reasonable option for you. http://www.vfsglobal.com/Australia/Thailand/additional_services.html Edited January 13, 2016 by simple1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve0367 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I am looking at applying for a partner visa and trying to decide if I should apply online using ImmiAccount or go into VFS to apply. I am wondering how you go about attaching documents to the online account? Do I need to go to the embassy to get a certified copy of my passport/my babies birth certificate etc.. As I am staying in Pattaya if I have to go to the embassy in Bangkok, I think it would be just as easy to go apply in person at VFS? [/quote In person the staff at vfs are quite good and really go over your paper work making sure you have the correct information 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rws85 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Thanks for the advice. I think I will go apply in VFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve0367 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Just received conformation of a valid application from the Embassy today. Is this normal after reading so many post here I was not expecting any thing for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Just received conformation of a valid application from the Embassy today. Is this normal after reading so many post here I was not expecting any thing for a while Just acknowledging receipt of application, Oz Border Control website indicates anticipated processing times for partner visa applications. https://www.border.gov.au/about/access-accountability/service-standards/family-visa-processing-times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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