tabs Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Is it just me or does his head look strangely out of proportion to the rest of his body ? The obvious facial cosmetic surgery he's had done accentuates the disparity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tabs Posted June 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2014 Had a long chat with Jakrapob at one of the National Health Assemblies some years ago. I found him to be an intelligent and likeable person, and am treating this story with scepticism. His English is excellent,.as stated above. good verbal English skills = incapable of criminal activity the logic is staggering 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaidam Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Jakropob's loyalty to the fugitive is a wonder to behold. He seems to have made assisting Thaksin steal every last baht from the Thai citizens his life's work. There is just one thing I would like to know, when Thaksin said abhisit made bad decisions "because he surrounded himself with homosexuals" just what exactly were Jakrapob and young Oak thinking !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emptyset Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Jakropob's loyalty to the fugitive is a wonder to behold. He seems to have made assisting Thaksin steal every last baht from the Thai citizens his life's work. There is just one thing I would like to know, when Thaksin said abhisit made bad decisions "because he surrounded himself with homosexuals" just what exactly were Jakrapob and young Oak thinking !!! Probbably not much. They knew when Thaksin spoke of "purple people" he was referring to a specific person. That said, I don't condone that kind of moronic stereotyping either, but it's used by both sides (and has been used against Jakrapob in particular). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradavarius37 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 This jackass is the worst of the Thaksin sycophants. May he and Chalerm die in each other's arms. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Many reactions on this topic today remind me, in minor, thank God, of the general attitude in my home country's intellectual circles, with in front university professors, human rights activists (Amnesty International, ...), NGOs, and socialist party leaders, defending, with teeth and claws, sponsoring, the marvellous experience the peacefull father Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge were bringing to Cambodia in creating a new, just, social, egalitarian society for the happiness of all citizens... Some even resisted, remaining in denial, years after the truth about the killing fields had started to emerge... Intellect is a privilege, it's precious, important, but it should not become obsessive, masking off the perceptions of sheer common sense. And History is full of well mannered, well educated, good looking, sweet talking people, who were in fact despicable personalities, full of evil, hatred and violence, and mostly very vain and self centered. Please try to remember you defended Jakrapop with such stamina, when the truth comes out, and don't hesitate to make your mea culpa in front of us here then... The problem, in part, with the type of persons you describe is that they define themselves by their ideas, so if and when their ideas are proven to be wrong they feel their very identity is in question and denial kicks in as a defense mechanism. There are a few stuck in that circle of intellectual dishonesty posting here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emptyset Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I'm not defending terrorist organizations - Red Siam never was one. I'm not actually asking you for proof of this because I already know there isn't any. Even some reds spuriously blamed Red Siam for attacks simply on the basis that they were "radical" and had a former communist nsurgent as a leader. Actually apart from Jakrapob who got involved with Red Siam after falling out with the other UDD leaders, no one in Red Siam had any affiliation to PT or Thaksin. They weren't allowed on the UDD stage either and unlike some other fringe groups who were allowed small stages at the UDD protests (like Somyot's group), they held their protests completely separately from the UDD after the split in March 2010. Even if Red Siam wanted to use violence, they wouldn't have had the capability, connections or resources to do it. That said, I don't think the UDD were directly behind the Trat bombings either. As I've said before, peripheral figures might be involved but this is not something under the control of the main UDD leaders (who differ signicantly in their attitudes to violence anyway). I'm all for cracking down on the terrorist element, but dismissing everyone in the movement on the basis of these attacks is frankly stupid. Imagine, for instance, if people had flat out refused to negotiate with the IRA or seek a compromise. The conflict would still be going on now. Anyway, it's hard to believe that you could be credulous enough to think Jakrapob - of all people - would be stockpiling weapons in Thailand. A country which he hasn't been in since 2009. And that the evidence for this just happened to be found for this a few days after he started a movement which the junta evidently believes could prove troublesome. They actually provide the reasoning for it themselves. They couldn't extradite him for LM, so needed to charge him with something which is also a crime in other countries. I wonder if Rose will be found to have been stockpiling weapons too... So because he hasn't physically been in Thailand since 2009 it's impossible that he's involved in storing war weapons. Great deduction. What's your next one - Monday can't follow Sunday because it sometimes rains? That's not the only basis upon which I make my judgement, lol. From what I know about the composition and organization of these groups, I find it extremely unlikely Jakrapob is involved. But you can believe whatever you like as far as I'm concerned, Scorecard. If you believe, as someone else on this thread previously averred, that Jakrapob is the next Pol Pot, then I'm not going to convince you otherwise. Just saying if you're actually interested in the truth, and not simply in believing whichever nonsense fits with your preconceived narrative, you'd perhaps be less inclined to take these stories at face value as the actual evidence for Jackie's involvement in armed attacks is... well... what evidence is there, other than the usual - banal - conjecture by anti-red Thaivisa posters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Time for Prayuth to take the bull by the horns and show he is serious international arrest warrants for jakobprob surapong and shittywatra would be a great place to start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emptyset Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) This jackass is the worst of the Thaksin sycophants. May he and Chalerm die in each other's arms. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app I don't think so. One of the reasons I am wary of Jakrapob is that I think he's associated himself with Thaksin more than I think he needs to - or more than is justified by circumstance. But I think Jakrapob is actually well aware of Thaksin's flaws. Just he's got another target - the traditional Thai establishment - in mind and he sees TS as the lesser of two evils. I don't necessarily think he's right. Just that Jakrapob is a more complex character than you suggest. But, as Goethe said: “Conscience is the virtue of observers and not of agents of action.” Edited June 29, 2014 by Emptyset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post culicine Posted June 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2014 This guy has a video on youtube where he denounces the coup in very good English! I wonder if this is the real reason. If he had been in exile for a long time how would he be involved in weapons storage, not saying it's not true. Just wondering. He's not been in Thailand since 2009. But hey, maybe they found a picture of him next to the weapons or a lock of his hair or something... By that logic, Thaksin has had no involvement with politics since he went into exile in 2006 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Is it just me or does his head look strangely out of proportion to the rest of his body ? LOL! He does look like he has strings working him. A bit like his old boss I guess. Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I remember before the boom gate was lifted on the untravelled road to democracy on the 22nd of May the comments were: When I said there is rice missing from the warehouses. The RS apologists said "Show me the proof"? When I said there is corruption in the rice scheme. The RS apologists said "Show me the proof"? On September 25, 2013 when yingluck said the government was not considering further loans because it would have enough money from selling rice from its stocks to fund the scheme until 2014 I said she was lying. Guess what the red apologists said? Show me the proof? When I said the UDD are a violent terrorist organization and where involved in the Trat attacks. Guess what? The RS apologists said "Show me the proof"? I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on, but this will suffice. So when you make comments like "when was Red Siam ever involved in "violence and mayhem" and "if you believe this stuff about him "stockpiling war weapons" I laugh, more out of pity for the misguided than out of humor and this direction resembles the road I have been down before with the red apologists after stating the above. Luckily that road has an exit now with a destination sign stating that the town of "True Democracy" is 430 days away. Time to stop defending terrorist organizations my friend. We are on the boat to reconciliation and there is always room for you too emptyset. I saved you a seat!!! I'm not defending terrorist organizations - Red Siam never was one. I'm not actually asking you for proof of this because I already know there isn't any. Even some reds spuriously blamed Red Siam for attacks simply on the basis that they were "radical" and had a former communist insurgent as a leader. Actually apart from Jakrapob who got involved with Red Siam after falling out with the other UDD leaders, no one in Red Siam had any affiliation to PT or Thaksin. They weren't allowed on the UDD stage either and unlike some other fringe groups who were allowed small stages at the UDD protests (like Somyot's group), they held their protests completely separately from the UDD after the split in March 2010. Even if Red Siam wanted to use violence, they wouldn't have had the capability, connections or resources to do it. That said, I don't think the UDD were directly behind the Trat bombings either. As I've said before, peripheral figures might be involved but this is not something under the control of the main UDD leaders (who differ signicantly in their attitudes to violence anyway). I'm all for cracking down on the terrorist element, but dismissing everyone in the movement on the basis of these attacks is frankly stupid. Imagine, for instance, if people had flat out refused to negotiate with the IRA or seek a compromise. The conflict would still be going on now. Anyway, it's hard to believe that you could be credulous enough to think Jakrapob - of all people - would be stockpiling weapons in Thailand. A country which he hasn't been in since 2009. And that the evidence for this just happened to be found for this a few days after he started a movement which the junta evidently believes could prove troublesome. They actually provide the reasoning for it themselves. They couldn't extradite him for LM, so needed to charge him with something which is also a crime in other countries. I wonder if Rose will be found to have been stockpiling weapons too... So because he hasn't physically been in Thailand since 2009 it's impossible that he's involved in storing war weapons. Great deduction. What's your next one - Monday can't follow Sunday because it sometimes rains? This is why he needs our support and pity. When he says he is all for cracking down on the terrorist element and also says he is not defending terrorist organizations then in the same sentence defends the terrorists then one can only hope the fanatical thought processes become repressed. I hate terrorist, BUT BUT BUT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UbonRatch Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 What's he gonna do fer a face when King Kong wants his arse back? Borrow yours? Go back to the playground, Victor Mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Folks while you write reasonably well en francais,the forum language is english and it is all likely to be deleted by mods. Just saying.Londonthai relayed an utterly predictable Jackrapob response to the charges.Filled with boiler plate and attempts to spin the discussion away from himself.The best defense being a belligerent offense.Right on schedule.I call him Jack Rabbit Bob, for the speed he decamped to Cambodia after hismouth and zealotry sank his ship of state pretenses.Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Also note that the other newspaper reported the Thai Consul General in Hong Kong attended the address given by jakraphob at the HK Press club, and after the event the Thai consult general, rather emotional, said 'it's all lies'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I remember before the boom gate was lifted on the untravelled road to democracy on the 22nd of May the comments were: When I said there is rice missing from the warehouses. The RS apologists said "Show me the proof"? When I said there is corruption in the rice scheme. The RS apologists said "Show me the proof"? On September 25, 2013 when yingluck said the government was not considering further loans because it would have enough money from selling rice from its stocks to fund the scheme until 2014 I said she was lying. Guess what the red apologists said? Show me the proof? When I said the UDD are a violent terrorist organization and where involved in the Trat attacks. Guess what? The RS apologists said "Show me the proof"? I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on, but this will suffice. So when you make comments like "when was Red Siam ever involved in "violence and mayhem" and "if you believe this stuff about him "stockpiling war weapons" I laugh, more out of pity for the misguided than out of humor and this direction resembles the road I have been down before with the red apologists after stating the above. Luckily that road has an exit now with a destination sign stating that the town of "True Democracy" is 430 days away. Time to stop defending terrorist organizations my friend. We are on the boat to reconciliation and there is always room for you too emptyset. I saved you a seat!!! I'm not defending terrorist organizations - Red Siam never was one. I'm not actually asking you for proof of this because I already know there isn't any. Even some reds spuriously blamed Red Siam for attacks simply on the basis that they were "radical" and had a former communist insurgent as a leader. Actually apart from Jakrapob who got involved with Red Siam after falling out with the other UDD leaders, no one in Red Siam had any affiliation to PT or Thaksin. They weren't allowed on the UDD stage either and unlike some other fringe groups who were allowed small stages at the UDD protests (like Somyot's group), they held their protests completely separately from the UDD after the split in March 2010. Even if Red Siam wanted to use violence, they wouldn't have had the capability, connections or resources to do it. That said, I don't think the UDD were directly behind the Trat bombings either. As I've said before, peripheral figures might be involved but this is not something under the control of the main UDD leaders (who differ signicantly in their attitudes to violence anyway). I'm all for cracking down on the terrorist element, but dismissing everyone in the movement on the basis of these attacks is frankly stupid. Imagine, for instance, if people had flat out refused to negotiate with the IRA or seek a compromise. The conflict would still be going on now. Anyway, it's hard to believe that you could be credulous enough to think Jakrapob - of all people - would be stockpiling weapons in Thailand. A country which he hasn't been in since 2009. And that the evidence for this just happened to be found for this a few days after he started a movement which the junta evidently believes could prove troublesome. They actually provide the reasoning for it themselves. They couldn't extradite him for LM, so needed to charge him with something which is also a crime in other countries. I wonder if Rose will be found to have been stockpiling weapons too... Trat - I thought I read suspects had been arrested now. So let's see where the trail leads before speculating which UDD leaders might or might not be innocent. Their differing attitude to violence seems that some are more open whist others more covert. Applaud the murder of innocent children or keep quiet - but don't condemn it says a lot about their attitude; and the probability they thought they knew who likely did it. The IRA suddenly became more interested in negotiating when Bush declared war on terrorism after 9/11. They realized, as a terrorist organization they would be targeted instead of being able to con funds out of sympathetic Americans. A change brought about through necessity. They too, were guilty of murdering innocents including children when it suited. Who knows what this guy has really been up to - no one on TV, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I want Chalerm. Where is Chalerm ? Bring back Chalerm or I will hold my breath until they do ! Chalerm, Chalerm he's our man, if he can't do it ( solve it, drink it ) nobody can ! He could be around and you wouldn't know it...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I want Chalerm. Where is Chalerm ? Bring back Chalerm or I will hold my breath until they do ! Chalerm, Chalerm he's our man, if he can't do it ( solve it, drink it ) nobody can ! He could be around and you wouldn't know it...... Shit, I have a new next door neighbour who waves every morning and offers a dram It couldn't be , could it ? The sons are iffy looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradavarius37 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 This jackass is the worst of the Thaksin sycophants. May he and Chalerm die in each other's arms. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app I don't think so. One of the reasons I am wary of Jakrapob is that I think he's associated himself with Thaksin more than I think he needs to - or more than is justified by circumstance. But I think Jakrapob is actually well aware of Thaksin's flaws. Just he's got another target - the traditional Thai establishment - in mind and he sees TS as the lesser of two evils. I don't necessarily think he's right. Just that Jakrapob is a more complex character than you suggest. But, as Goethe said: “Conscience is the virtue of observers and not of agents of action.” You're giving big lips too much credit. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted June 29, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2014 Statement today by Jakrapob Penkair of the Free Thai movement https://www.facebook.com/pages/จักรภพ-เพ็ญแข-Jakrapob-Penkair/560398830659767 : The charges levelled against me today by Thailands illegitimate coup regime reveal, once again, the desperation of the Generals and the Establishment they represent. The false claim that I am behind some kind of armed element is not only a fiction but yet another example of the injudiciousness of the fraudulent Thai junta. Let me be clear - there is simply no evidence whatsoever to connect me to the juntas seizure of arms and I would challenge them to produce such evidence. Of course, even the seizure of said arms have more than a whiff of suspicion about them. There has been no independent investigation regarding these arms seizures, no chain of evidence has been preserved and the kind of claims the junta are putting forward are so flimsy they would be washed away very quickly when subject to proper cross-examination. As for any attempt to extradite me on such charges, the junta must know that no government on earth would succumb to their threats and that I would be given full access to any evidence they have concocted and also the platform to challenge such evidence. For the record, I must state that I have no involvement in any kind of armed struggle. I believe fully in a political, social and cultural struggle secured in reality by the democratic will of the Thai people. The Generals and their Establishment masters know very well that if the democratic will of the Thai people is expressed, power will be removed from them and returned to more accountable and legal forms. It's only two days ago our organisation was being dismissed as irrelevant by the junta. Now we face allegations of being behind a regime-concocted "armed struggle" along with attempts to curtail our rights to travel via the revocations of passports. These actions by the junta reveal only one thing - their increasingly obvious insecurity - something which will only grow in the days and weeks to come. Thats why the only judicial vehicle they could use to expedite their false charges would be through their own military-run courts where due process and the rule of law have long been abolished in favour of despotism. It must be said that any and all cases coming before the military courts exist in the context of a form of jurisprudence that is little more than a theatre of the absurd, such is the lack of any form of legal rights. At the moment the military and the forces they represent are the only agents engaged in any kind of illegitimate armed struggle against the will of the Thai people. Those who believe in democracy have no need to use force of arms as we are confident that the moment the franchise is returned to Thais the junta will be little more than an historical aberration. I should add that the revocation of passports by the junta is not only another grotesque repressive act it also turns any Thai citizen who stands against the military regime into political refugees. Such revocations will further expose to the global community that the junta are little more than petulant tyrants operating far beyond the norms of international law. We ask our supporters to remain steadfast and not be distressed or disheartened by the juntas threats and games. The only action the junta have available to themselves is to attempt to crush the hopes and aspirations of ordinary Thais. Yet, with each turn of the repressive screw, the junta just further seal their own fate and will strengthen your resolve to return sovereignty to the Thai people. Please, londonthai, NO MORE PROPAGANDA! Don't make me hope the MICT traces you, and you get sent away from this forum too...!surely, they are very strong political arguments you are rolling out He's says he's innocent. Thaksin says he's innocent. Yingluck says she's innocent. Chalerm says his son and all the red shirts are innocent. (If only he could have caught that mysterious third hand who kept popping up as predicted). Yingluck says there was no corruption in her regimes Yingluck said she had enough money to pay the farmers, didn't need to borrow, and vowed the farmers would be paid. She lied. Yingluck said her criminal fugitive brother did not pick the cabinet and make the regular changes to it. Make your own mind up. Yingluck said although she spoke almost every day to her criminal fugitive brother he did not advise or tell her what to do. Believe that if you want. Yingluck's cousin illegally issued a new Thai passport to his criminal fugitive cousin, her brother, and both refused to answer the ombudsman's repeated questions on it. Thaksin was involved in several scandals, convicted of corruption, faces 15 outstanding criminal charges should he return and there are still the issues of HR violations with his war on drugs and offensives in the south. You want to believe what this guy says, based on his previous record and who he associates closely with? Up to you. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I want Chalerm. Where is Chalerm ? Bring back Chalerm or I will hold my breath until they do ! Chalerm, Chalerm he's our man, if he can't do it ( solve it, drink it ) nobody can ! He could be around and you wouldn't know it...... Shit, I have a new next door neighbour who waves every morning and offers a dram It couldn't be , could it ? The sons are iffy looking. Try luring (a-la TAT) it with ear medicine - if he goes for it, it could be a tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Is it just me or does his head look strangely out of proportion to the rest of his body ? LOL! He does look like he has strings working him. A bit like his old boss I guess. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic1KXCq1Dbk I can't remember when I last saw skirts that short! Actually, come to think of it, I can. It was at Chiang Mai University. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Those red eyes are haunting me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> This jackass is the worst of the Thaksin sycophants. May he and Chalerm die in each other's arms.Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app I don't think so. One of the reasons I am wary of Jakrapob is that I think he's associated himself with Thaksin more than I think he needs to - or more than is justified by circumstance. But I think Jakrapob is actually well aware of Thaksin's flaws. Just he's got another target - the traditional Thai establishment - in mind and he sees TS as the lesser of two evils. I don't necessarily think he's right. Just that Jakrapob is a more complex character than you suggest.But, as Goethe said: “Conscience is the virtue of observers and not of agents of action.” You're giving big lips too much credit.Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app In the past it was very obvious mr. j. as much as anything wanted desperately to be in the limelight / he wanted desperately to be noticed. No doubt this desire hasn't. changed. Just wondering if the big r. might be coaching him and taking advantage of his desire for the limelight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UbonRatch Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> This jackass is the worst of the Thaksin sycophants. May he and Chalerm die in each other's arms. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app I don't think so. One of the reasons I am wary of Jakrapob is that I think he's associated himself with Thaksin more than I think he needs to - or more than is justified by circumstance. But I think Jakrapob is actually well aware of Thaksin's flaws. Just he's got another target - the traditional Thai establishment - in mind and he sees TS as the lesser of two evils. I don't necessarily think he's right. Just that Jakrapob is a more complex character than you suggest. But, as Goethe said: “Conscience is the virtue of observers and not of agents of action.” You're giving big lips too much credit. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app In the past it was very obvious mr. j. as much as anything wanted desperately to be in the limelight / he wanted desperately to be noticed. No doubt this desire hasn't. changed. Just wondering if the big r. might be coaching him and taking advantage of his desire for the limelight. The big r? No shame and name here Cardsy. Amsterdam is a small player in cities of Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 This is a stitch up! having read the other paper today, Suthep was told to keep quite. Someone doesn't like it that Suthep claims they have been talking since 2010! Then we get this arrest warrant for Chakrapob for storing weapon. Apparently his passport has also been revoked. It even gives away that he cannot be extradited for les majeste, because no other country has a similar law. So they trump up charges and then request he extradition. Has Thaksins passport been cancelled! Is he not the real instigator of troubles. When will they apply for his extradition? It is beginning to look as if this is just another cycle of Thai Politics. Everyone with some sort of power will use it for their own ends and to hell with the Thai population. There are no real politicians in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen33 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Had a long chat with Jakrapob at one of the National Health Assemblies some years ago. I found him to be an intelligent and likeable person, and am treating this story with scepticism. His English is excellent,.as stated above. good verbal English skills = incapable of criminal activity the logic is staggering If you read the thread you will see that Jakrapob's English in an online video was mentioned by another poster. My post was intended: (a) suggest that on the basis of my own (limited) knowledge of the man he comes across as intelligent and likeable, as opposed to the two headed monster portrayed by some posters; ( b ) to confirm that his language ability in English is indeed excellent, in conversation as well as in a video. That is why I used separate sentences. Talking about logic is a bit rich when reading skills and ability to make connections are so limited. Edited June 29, 2014 by citizen33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UbonRatch Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) This jackass is the worst of the Thaksin sycophants. May he and Chalerm die in each other's arms. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app I don't think so. One of the reasons I am wary of Jakrapob is that I think he's associated himself with Thaksin more than I think he needs to - or more than is justified by circumstance. But I think Jakrapob is actually well aware of Thaksin's flaws. Just he's got another target - the traditional Thai establishment - in mind and he sees TS as the lesser of two evils. I don't necessarily think he's right. Just that Jakrapob is a more complex character than you suggest. But, as Goethe said: “Conscience is the virtue of observers and not of agents of action.” Shylock thought he was too complicated for everybody else too, but a simple pound of flesh was his downfall. There's lots of Antonios waiting for Jakrapob, and a Portia will come from nowhere to put the knife into all his losses. As Shylock said himself, "Let is serve for table-talk", and Gratiano finished with: "Beg that thou mayst have leave to hang thyself, And yet, thy wealth being forfeit to the state, Thou hast not left the value of a cord. Therefore thou must be hanged at the state’s charge." Jakrapob is neither that smart, not able to think beyond such. Edited June 29, 2014 by UbonRatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yim Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 "He said that Mr Chakrapob was already facing an arrest warrant on lese majeste charge but attempt to have him extradited from abroad to face trial in Thailand was not possible because there is no lese majeste law in countries where the fugitive have taken refuge." That narrow it down to every other country in the world then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 "He said that Mr Chakrapob was already facing an arrest warrant on lese majeste charge but attempt to have him extradited from abroad to face trial in Thailand was not possible because there is no lese majeste law in countries where the fugitive have taken refuge." That narrow it down to every other country in the world then "That narrow it down to every other country in the world then : NO! The following countries also have lese majeste laws: Denmark, Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Morocco, Kuwait, Jordan and Malaysia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se-majest%C3%A9 Next? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 "He said that Mr Chakrapob was already facing an arrest warrant on lese majeste charge but attempt to have him extradited from abroad to face trial in Thailand was not possible because there is no lese majeste law in countries where the fugitive have taken refuge." That narrow it down to every other country in the world then "That narrow it down to every other country in the world then : NO! The following countries also have lese majeste laws: Denmark, Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Morocco, Kuwait, Jordan and Malaysia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lèse-majesté Next? having lese majeste law in europe is more for lough than anything else: "Denmark: There are no historical records of §115 having ever been used, but in March 2011, Greenpeace activists who unfurled a banner at a dinner at the 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference were charged under this section.[8] They received minor sentences for other crimes, but were acquitted of the charge relating to the monarch. Netherlands: In October 2007, a 47-year-old man was sentenced to 1 week imprisonment and fined 400 [11] for, amongst other things, lese-majesty in the Netherlands when he called Queen Beatrix a "whore" and told a police officer that he would have anal sex with her because "she would like it". ... Spain: The Spanish satirical magazine El Jueves was fined for violation of Spain's lese-majesty laws after publishing an issue with a caricature of the Prince of Asturias and his wife engaging in sexual intercourse on the cover in 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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