Any problems with Non O marriage visa from Savannakhet with no bank funds?

[thaicookingchef]

And do they start making problems to people who do a Visa run every 3 months with a NON O wife visa ?

[GoonDizzy]

Never done this before, so sorry for my ignorance on the subject. I'm after a single entry 3 month non O as I'm planning on leaving Thailand in September.

I've got all the docs ready already.

Is this what I do?

1) Bus from Mo Chit to Mukdahan

2) Bus from Mukdahan to Savannakhet.

For (2) does this bus take you to the place you get 'stamped out' of Thailand? Or do I need a taxi/tuk-tuk to the Bridge/border point?

3) Once 'stamped out' of Thailand, is the Laos border post nearby like the one at Poi Pet (Cambodia) or do I need a tuk-tuk/bus to the border point at Laos?

4) I'm pretty sure once 'in' Laos at the border, I'll need a bus/tuk tuk to the Consulate.

Am I right or wrong on any of these points?

[MANICMINER]

Never done this before, so sorry for my ignorance on the subject. I'm after a single entry 3 month non O as I'm planning on leaving Thailand in September.

I've got all the docs ready already.

Is this what I do?

1) Bus from Mo Chit to Mukdahan

2) Bus from Mukdahan to Savannakhet.

For (2) does this bus take you to the place you get 'stamped out' of Thailand? Or do I need a taxi/tuk-tuk to the Bridge/border point?

3) Once 'stamped out' of Thailand, is the Laos border post nearby like the one at Poi Pet (Cambodia) or do I need a tuk-tuk/bus to the border point at Laos?

4) I'm pretty sure once 'in' Laos at the border, I'll need a bus/tuk tuk to the Consulate.

Am I right or wrong on any of these points?

The Mukdahan to Savannakhet bus will take you all the way, then tuk tuk to consulate. At each check point, you get off/on the same bus. After you get passed the lao checkpoint, some people choose to get a tuk tuk straight to the consualate, so they get there earlier - upto you.

[ubonjoe]

Never done this before, so sorry for my ignorance on the subject. I'm after a single entry 3 month non O as I'm planning on leaving Thailand in September.

I've got all the docs ready already.

Is this what I do?

1) Bus from Mo Chit to Mukdahan

2) Bus from Mukdahan to Savannakhet.

For (2) does this bus take you to the place you get 'stamped out' of Thailand? Or do I need a taxi/tuk-tuk to the Bridge/border point?

3) Once 'stamped out' of Thailand, is the Laos border post nearby like the one at Poi Pet (Cambodia) or do I need a tuk-tuk/bus to the border point at Laos?

4) I'm pretty sure once 'in' Laos at the border, I'll need a bus/tuk tuk to the Consulate.

Am I right or wrong on any of these points?

When you get on the bus in Mukdahan it will take you to the bridge and wait for you while you clear Thai immigration then cross the bridge where it will again wait for you while you get your Lao visa on arrival and entry. Then it will take you to the bus station in Savannakhet where you can get a tuk tuk to the consulate.

[GoonDizzy]

Cheers, you beautiful bastards!

[Rimbuman]

Correct LB. I attended the Thai consulate Savan on Tuesday and received a non-imm O multiple visa at 1530hrs the same day.

Along with the relevant documents, I also included proof of funds which was not required and therefore returned to me.

How long will this continue? Only time will tell.

Enjoy

Savannakhet is handling "financial-requirements" in a very liberal way. The "big immigration-office" in BKK most likely is aware of this practice that it is not 100% in accordance with the intent of the law.

So, Savannakhet is a "Rouge-Outpost", If Savannakhet is brought into line eventually, where is the next Savannakhet? As far as I can see: There is none !

For those that it concerns: Prepare yourself !

I'm not sure I agree about what you say, maybe this loop hole has a "social aspect" and leaves the possibility open for farang/Thai familiy who simply don't have this money to stay together.

To not leave an option open for these families would cause severe pain and drama.

[ubonjoe]

Correct LB. I attended the Thai consulate Savan on Tuesday and received a non-imm O multiple visa at 1530hrs the same day.

Along with the relevant documents, I also included proof of funds which was not required and therefore returned to me.

How long will this continue? Only time will tell.

Enjoy

Savannakhet is handling "financial-requirements" in a very liberal way. The "big immigration-office" in BKK most likely is aware of this practice that it is not 100% in accordance with the intent of the law.

So, Savannakhet is a "Rouge-Outpost", If Savannakhet is brought into line eventually, where is the next Savannakhet? As far as I can see: There is none !

For those that it concerns: Prepare yourself !

Immigration has nothing to do with the requirements to get visas.it is the responsibility of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

There is no financial requirements to get a non-o visa other than the 20k baht needed to get any non immigrant visa. See: http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/123/15398-Issuance-of-Visa.html

In fact the embassies and consulates that ask for more than 20k baht are in violation of the rules.

[NanLaew]

And do they start making problems to people who do a Visa run every 3 months with a NON O wife visa ?

There's no indication that they are doing this at the moment.

Then again, there's been a gradual trickle-down of a general immigration clamp-down, first with visa-exempt entry abusers and now with TR 'abusers' so it could happen; it is their play book and not ours.

I base that on the fact that for the best part of a year already, more people are reporting being unable to get a 1-year, multiple entry visa when married to a Thai. Most have to furnish additional proof of financials before being issued a single entry and told to file a 1-year extension based on marriage once back in LOS.

I think EVERYONE needs to have a Plan B and if anyone is currently doing a 90-day 'border bounce' just to keep a 1-year, multi-entry, Non-O alive, they may need to think about getting some cash seasoned so if/when they pull that rug from under them, it's more of a formality and easier to file a compliant extension request than post a panic-stricken rant here.

[kovaltech]

I think people are still mistaken by a 90 day non imigrant multiple entry and a 1 year visa non immigrant multiple entry.

both do exist, but not everywhere available.

here we talk about a 90 days visa, which requires to leave the country every 90 days, where as the 1 year visa requires a 90 days visit at the local immigration office.

to obtain a 90 day visa, no proof of funds in the bank required

for the 1 year visa the proof of funds is required.

where savanaketh has no issues at all its different in vientiane, vientiane only issues a 90 days visa , single entry, and refers to get extension at the local immigration.

op, i think you r talking about a 90 day visa with multiple entrys ?

[cornishcarlos]

I think people are still mistaken by a 90 day non imigrant multiple entry and a 1 year visa non immigrant multiple entry.

both do exist, but not everywhere available.

here we talk about a 90 days visa, which requires to leave the country every 90 days, where as the 1 year visa requires a 90 days visit at the local immigration office.

to obtain a 90 day visa, no proof of funds in the bank required

for the 1 year visa the proof of funds is required.

where savanaketh has no issues at all its different in vientiane, vientiane only issues a 90 days visa , single entry, and refers to get extension at the local immigration.

op, i think you r talking about a 90 day visa with multiple entrys ?

Think you may also be mistaken !!

1 year multi entry Non O visa, requires the holder to leave the country every 90 days.

1 year extension for marriage or retirement, requires 90 reports to local immigration.

But then I could also be mistaken

[hathairat2711]

You're correct CC although I don't believe they're called 'marriage'

[Deacon Bell]

I think people are still mistaken by a 90 day non imigrant multiple entry and a 1 year visa non immigrant multiple entry.

both do exist, but not everywhere available.

here we talk about a 90 days visa, which requires to leave the country every 90 days, where as the 1 year visa requires a 90 days visit at the local immigration office.

to obtain a 90 day visa, no proof of funds in the bank required

for the 1 year visa the proof of funds is required.

where savanaketh has no issues at all its different in vientiane, vientiane only issues a 90 days visa , single entry, and refers to get extension at the local immigration.

op, i think you r talking about a 90 day visa with multiple entrys ?

That's not correct.

1 year Multi-Entry Visa allows the holder to be given a 90 day Permission of Temporary Stay when they enter the Kingdom.

They need to leave before this is up. ie. do a border run and be given another 90 days.

This (or a 90 day Single-Entry Non-O visa) can be extended by getting a 12 month Extension of Temporary Stay at your local immigration office. With this Extension one only has to report every 90 days, and not leave the country.

[poweratradio]

Judging by reports here they are still being issued with no problems.

Don't forget to leave the country every 90 days when you get it.

Is there away around the 90 day country departure rule for marriage visa's that you know of? I thought I read somewhere that one could report to a local immigration office in country.

[Deacon Bell]

Judging by reports here they are still being issued with no problems.

Don't forget to leave the country every 90 days when you get it.

Is there away around the 90 day country departure rule for marriage visa's that you know of? I thought I read somewhere that one could report to a local immigration office in country.

Get a 12 month Extension of Stay at your local immigration.

Required proof funds are either 400k baht in a Thai account in your name for 2 months. Or overseas income of 40k p/m.

[kovaltech]

I think people are still mistaken by a 90 day non imigrant multiple entry and a 1 year visa non immigrant multiple entry.

both do exist, but not everywhere available.

here we talk about a 90 days visa, which requires to leave the country every 90 days, where as the 1 year visa requires a 90 days visit at the local immigration office.

to obtain a 90 day visa, no proof of funds in the bank required

for the 1 year visa the proof of funds is required.

where savanaketh has no issues at all its different in vientiane, vientiane only issues a 90 days visa , single entry, and refers to get extension at the local immigration.

op, i think you r talking about a 90 day visa with multiple entrys ?

Think you may also be mistaken !!

1 year multi entry Non O visa, requires the holder to leave the country every 90 days.

1 year extension for marriage or retirement, requires 90 reports to local immigration.

But then I could also be mistaken

It seems that my knowledge is 2 years old and a lot has changed...

My mistake... ?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

I think EVERYONE needs to have a Plan B and if anyone is currently doing a 90-day 'border bounce' just to keep a 1-year, multi-entry, Non-O alive, they may need to think about getting some cash seasoned so if/when they pull that rug from under them, it's more of a formality and easier to file a compliant extension request than post a panic-stricken rant here.

Correct me here if I'm wrong... but I haven't heard/seen anything as yet of legitimate multiple entry Non-O visa holders having problems with Immigration in re-entering Thailand after having left the country in according with their 90-days permission to stay per entry stamp.

Yes, Immigration is cracking down on repeat visa-exempt and repeat tourist visa holders. And while certainly nothing about Immigration here is guaranteed, the notion that a multiple entry Non-O Visa holder needs to leave the country and then return back is kind of baked into that type of visa. It's kind of hard to see how/why Immigration would have any objection to those kind of out/in border crossings.

But....if you mean the locals at the Savannakhet Consulate at some future point might begin requiring proof of financials prior to issuing a multiple-entry Non-O visa based on marriage, then yes, that certainly always would be possible, and probably even probable at some point down the road.

[dzodun]

Hathair, thanks for a very thorough outline of the necessary documents at Savannakhet.

Con you or anyone else tell me where to find the "Khor Ror 2" form one can use in lieu

of an original marriage certificate. I am going there on Monday, with copies and translations

of my marriage certificate (U.S.) but no original. Thanks

[MJCM]

KR 2 you can get from any Amphur. costs =/- 20 THB

[hathairat2711]

Hathair, thanks for a very thorough outline of the necessary documents at Savannakhet.

Con you or anyone else tell me where to find the "Khor Ror 2" form one can use in lieu

of an original marriage certificate. I am going there on Monday, with copies and translations

of my marriage certificate (U.S.) but no original. Thanks

Obtained from the Amphur where you were married.

If married within the last few yrs and assuming your marriage entry registration was on their online database, you would be able to obtain the KR2 from any amphur in Thailand.

You definitely don't need the original as long as you have in your possession a KR2 recently dated say the last 30 days.

Cost B20.

Enjoy your trip.

[slipperylobster]

I will be going there in 3 weeks for a 90 day O, and later do a one year extension (retirement)

Am I to understand I can just go ahead and get a one year non Immigrant O visa with multiple entry for one year? (based on retirement as well)

[ubonjoe]

I will be going there in 3 weeks for a 90 day O, and later do a one year extension (retirement)

Am I to understand I can just go ahead and get a one year non Immigrant O visa with multiple entry for one year? (based on retirement as well)

You will not be able to get a multiple entry non-o visa based upon retirement in Savannakhet.

To get the single entry you will need to show financial proof.

[dzodun]

Hairstay,

Thanks for the reply. Other issues apply in my case (don't they always)

We were married in the States in 1996 and have never registered our

marriage at an amphur. We have been to Thailand many times

before, each time getting a Non O based on marriage through the

Thai embassy in D.C. But now we are staying longer this time so

I need to change my Non B back to a Non O since I have not

received a new teaching contract yet and my visa extension expires

on the 30th

Another thing. I don't see how having an original MC is precisely related to the Khor Sor2. The original is no better than a copy when

addressing the question of whether you have divorced or not.

It seems like the Khor Ror2 , updated, would be required.

[slipperylobster]

I will be going there in 3 weeks for a 90 day O, and later do a one year extension (retirement)

Am I to understand I can just go ahead and get a one year non Immigrant O visa with multiple entry for one year? (based on retirement as well)

You will not be able to get a multiple entry non-o visa based upon retirement in Savannakhet.

To get the single entry you will not need to show financial proof.

ok then. thanks for clearing that up for me. I will just get the 90 day non O. I was temporarily sidetracked with all the info.

[ubonjoe]

I will be going there in 3 weeks for a 90 day O, and later do a one year extension (retirement)

Am I to understand I can just go ahead and get a one year non Immigrant O visa with multiple entry for one year? (based on retirement as well)

You will not be able to get a multiple entry non-o visa based upon retirement in Savannakhet.

To get the single entry you will need to show financial proof.

ok then. thanks for clearing that up for me. I will just get the 90 day non O. I was temporarily sidetracked with all the info.

Sorry had to correct my post. You will need to show financial proof.

[ubonjoe]

Hairstay,

Thanks for the reply. Other issues apply in my case (don't they always)

We were married in the States in 1996 and have never registered our

marriage at an amphur. We have been to Thailand many times

before, each time getting a Non O based on marriage through the

Thai embassy in D.C. But now we are staying longer this time so

I need to change my Non B back to a Non O since I have not

received a new teaching contract yet and my visa extension expires

on the 30th

Another thing. I don't see how having an original MC is precisely related to the Khor Sor2. The original is no better than a copy when

addressing the question of whether you have divorced or not.

It seems like the Khor Ror2 , updated, would be required.

Savannakhet does not ask for the Kor Ror 2. They will accept your marriage certificate from the states.

You cannot get a Kor Ror 2 unless you register your marriage at an Amphoe. You would have a Kor Ror 22 registry for a foreign marriage after doing it.

You will need to register your marriage if you wanted to get an extension of stay at immigration.

[slipperylobster]

I will be going there in 3 weeks for a 90 day O, and later do a one year extension (retirement)

Am I to understand I can just go ahead and get a one year non Immigrant O visa with multiple entry for one year? (based on retirement as well)

You will not be able to get a multiple entry non-o visa based upon retirement in Savannakhet.

To get the single entry you will need to show financial proof.

ok then. thanks for clearing that up for me. I will just get the 90 day non O. I was temporarily sidetracked with all the info.

Sorry had to correct my post. You will need to show financial proof.

ok. I have the Affidavit of income from the US Consulate in Chiang Mai, as well as 3 months of bank statements (in the usa) for proof of income. Will not show the bank statements....only the Affidavit of Income.

[ubonjoe]

Just give them a copy of your affidavit (show original if asked). You will need the original for your extension.

[meand]

My new policy is just to pull out my entire file cabinet, jam it in a backpack, and take it all with me when doing anything dealing with immigration.

I'm sure next I will get asked by the Thais why I have so many papers.

[aaronious]

Anyone familiar,

Changing my Non-B to a Non-0 (based on marriage and supporting kids) in Savannakhet; with proof of income and contract job with salary over 40,000 etc, birth certificates, all other requirements etc...

My HR staff told me I must bring my wife and kids to the embassy in Lao, to apply for the new Visa. Is this really necessary? Two overnight bus trips is unreasonable for very young children and my wife is working. Has anyone here personally got a marriage visa without the wife present?

Thanks!

[IMA_FARANG]

Anyone familiar,

Changing my Non-B to a Non-0 (based on marriage and supporting kids) in Savannakhet; with proof of income and contract job with salary over 40,000 etc, birth certificates, all other requirements etc...

My HR staff told me I must bring my wife and kids to the embassy in Lao, to apply for the new Visa. Is this really necessary? Two overnight bus trips is unreasonable for very young children and my wife is working. Has anyone here personally got a marriage visa without the wife present?

Thanks!

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People have tried before, and that's why it is now common the have the real life wife there to talk to.

I once saw 6 Indians applying separately for a marriage extension, each one claiming to the same Thai woman's husband.

The female immigration supervisor was the one who caught it. (They do have supervisors who review and approve the applications).

She thought the Indians were hilarious, all claiming to be married to the same Thai woman. And with marriage papers too (obviously forged).

She wasn't even attempting to be polite.

"Excuse me", she asked them, "but how does that work at bedtime?"