No Visa required for Chinese and Taiwanese visiting Thailand between August-October

[96tehtarp]

..Chinese are already the largest migrant group in Thailand and control 90% of economy...All Billionaires in Thailand are Pure Chinese....Thai-Chinese are the largest Chinese group outside China.

 

Chinese tourists spend the most dollars last year..They are the highest tourist spenders in the world...Google it...

 

Chinese have already taken over Thailand...90% of all LAND in pattaya is owned by the Thai-Chinese some 50 years ago...

 

Chinese are like combined population of North America, Europe, Russia in ONE..How can Thai's Ignore them....They will bring in more money than the entire Europeans and Americans and rest of the world combined.

 

By 2015, Chinese tourists could spend more than all the world’s luxury shoppers combined

 

http://qz.com/147703/by-2015-chinese-tourists-could-spend-more-than-all-the-worlds-luxury-shoppers-combined/

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_Chinese#Trade_and_industry

 

 

Of the five billionaires in Thailand in the late 20th century, 100 percent were all ethnic Chinese or of partial Chinese descent.^[26

 

 More than 80% of top 40 richest people in Thailand are Thai of full or partly Chinese descent

 

70% of the retailing outlets and 80 to 90 percent of the rice mills were controlled by ethnic Chinese.^[29] A survey of Thailand's roughly seventy most powerful business groups found that all but three were owned by Thai Chinese.^[30] The Chinese control more than 80 per cent of companies listed on the stock market.  In Thailand it is said that 50 ethnic Chinese families controlled most of the country’s business sectors or 81 to 90 percent of the overall market capitalization of the Thai economy.^[6][8][9][33

 

^{A smart businessman from a western country in Thailand will make sure his business plans includes Chinese...DO NOT IGNORE THEM...INVITE THEM}

 

You are telling it like it is. It doesn't matter if I like the way it is, that's the way it is.

[englishoak]

LOL Thailand in 10 years the locals will be wondering where the F it all went south. 

 

Welcome to Chinaland  land of scowls and spit.  

 

If your in business its probably gonna be good until they get a solid foothold in your business, then probably not so fun.

[chotthee]

China is the new USA.

The new super power and police of the world.

[gemini81]

Good time to visit your folks back home for a little while, during those months. Thailand is digging their own grave big time here. But it started long ago when immigrants from there came here and took over everything.

Edited July 17, 2014 by gemini81

[tonbridgebrit]

 

i live in tourist resort and they are killing the place, locals complain they spend no money , abuse everything and are just rude to thais

 

Yep!  That's about right.  Maybe 70% of the guests at my small hotels in Phuket are Chinese, (used to be 70% Western about 5 years ago).

 

Lucky for me, my business is too small for tour groups.  But these Chinese guests never buy food or drink here and only top up their Mama noodles with hot water.  They assume my ex is a junior staff, even though she is the 'boss'

 

However, all of this is out of my hands - blame the TAT for encouraging these (sorry to generalize), lo-life tourists.  As per my avatar, I always try to look on the bright side.  So I am attending Chinese language lessons and we are organizing hotel packages in Phuket that use the few public buses, (since these guests won't pay for taxis).

 

Apparently, my businesses get very good reviews on the Chinese hotel web-sites.  If it means having 100% occupancy all year round with tight-wallet Chinese, then so be it.  I'll lock my room door, put on a good movie VCD, open a cold beer and shout instructions in Mandarin for my ex to relay to these favoured guests.

 

Qing wen, wor bu jing li...

 

 

Right, so what you're saying is, is that you don't actually like them, and you'd rather Thailand was flooded by Brits and Australians instead. But, they're your customers, and you want their money, and they do pay. That's probably how most of the restaurant and hotel owners in London and Paris feel. That's why, it's not just Thailand trying to encourage more and more Chinese tourists. Britain and France are also trying to attract them as well.

 

[Yahooka]

 

It's going to be the second wave of Chinese immigrants since the 1800s. Many will settle and marry the locals. This is interesting.

 

What is interesting is how such a xenophobic nation allow another nationality to come and totally dominate (financially I mean) their society.  

 

 

I guess the xenophobia started when the other nationality who was naively let in was firmly in control of everything here..........They even hate the Thai`s .

[iphad]

 

 

OK, the country needs quality tourists that spend money in the shops to help boost retail.  Are the Chinese people coming in August-October going to be the big spenders?   Cos the Chinese coming in the last 12 months haven't been spending too much!

 

I haven't had my first coffee yet so sarcasm and wit are sadly lacking!

 

I just had my coffee.....where do you see that the Chinese don't spend?

I'm not doubting your statement maybe you know something that isn't apparent to me, especially for the last 12 months.

Although I have seen comments on various forums that Chinese don't spend money, the stats I see  say the reverse.

From " The Economist" dated april 24,2013

"Nearly one in ten international tourists worldwide is now Chinese, with 97.3m outward-bound journeys from the country last year, of which around half were for leisure. Chinese tourists spend most in total ($129 billion in 2013, followed by Americans at $86 billion) and per tax-free transaction ($1,130 compared with $494 by Russians). More than 80% say that shopping is vital to their plans, compared with 56% of Middle Eastern tourists and 48% of Russians. They are expected to buy more luxury goods next year while abroad than tourists from all other countries combined".

Only around 5% of China’s population now own passports, and most of those who travel go to Hong Kong or Macau. But increased affluence, a trend towards longer holidays, fewer visa conditions and growing numbers of repeat travellers mean that every year more will take foreign trips, and more will venture farther.   http://www.economist.com/news/international/21601028-how-growing-chinese-middle-class-changing-global-tourism-industry-coming.

Other articles online say somewhat the same.

 

The impression I get is that the Chinese travel for quality food & high end shopping.

certainly for the last 12 months..... 4-6 of the months had demonstrations, so that might have put off Chinese tourists & buying.

The notion that the Chinese are bad tourists,that they are cheap spenders is like saying that every farang that comes to Thailand just drinks alcohol & is a sex monger.

 

 

 

They might be spending more money now, but would you like me to post here 20 links, from the past 12 months, of Chinese tourists behaving badly EVERYWHERE they go??

 

Let's put it simply, the modern Chinese culture and morality is down the toilet now and they'll bring that to Thailand also. Are we happy now?

 

edit: Oh, I forgot my source: 4 years of living in China.

 

I'm talking about Chinese spending money & you are talking about Chinese behaving badly..

I guess being a guest in this country..meaning I'm a foreigner..who am I to say Chinese shouldn't be allowed to be tourists here to spend money to help the Thai economy.

Obviously you had the experience of living in China & you are entitled to your own conclusions.

You must feel your kind are better suited to Thailand.

 

[Jackson86]

I guess thai people prefer to welcome chinese people than westerners?

[Yahooka]

I guess thai people prefer to welcome chinese people than westerners?

Not necessarily.........................but the thai-chinese certainly do.

Edited July 17, 2014 by Yahooka

[iphad]

I guess thai people prefer to welcome chinese people than westerners?

If you listen to half the posters in this forums you could come to this idea.

The OP is about no visa required for 3 months for tourists from China & Taiwan.

It's not about english teachers,visas,& the other rants.

If Thailand is trying to increase tourism the same negative posters are saying TAT lies...so if Thailand attempts to do something re. appealing to Chinese Tourists you think Thailand has become communist or something &/or  Westerners are being neglected or aren't wanted here.

Some people need to go back home & get a grip on reality..get a proper visa,get a job & quit blaming Thailand for every thing wrong in their lives

 

[tonbridgebrit]

 

 

OK, the country needs quality tourists that spend money in the shops to help boost retail.  Are the Chinese people coming in August-October going to be the big spenders?   Cos the Chinese coming in the last 12 months haven't been spending too much!

 

I haven't had my first coffee yet so sarcasm and wit are sadly lacking!

 

I just had my coffee.....where do you see that the Chinese don't spend?

I'm not doubting your statement maybe you know something that isn't apparent to me, especially for the last 12 months.

Although I have seen comments on various forums that Chinese don't spend money, the stats I see  say the reverse.

From " The Economist" dated april 24,2013

"Nearly one in ten international tourists worldwide is now Chinese, with 97.3m outward-bound journeys from the country last year, of which around half were for leisure. Chinese tourists spend most in total ($129 billion in 2013, followed by Americans at $86 billion) and per tax-free transaction ($1,130 compared with $494 by Russians). More than 80% say that shopping is vital to their plans, compared with 56% of Middle Eastern tourists and 48% of Russians. They are expected to buy more luxury goods next year while abroad than tourists from all other countries combined".

Only around 5% of China’s population now own passports, and most of those who travel go to Hong Kong or Macau. But increased affluence, a trend towards longer holidays, fewer visa conditions and growing numbers of repeat travellers mean that every year more will take foreign trips, and more will venture farther.   http://www.economist.com/news/international/21601028-how-growing-chinese-middle-class-changing-global-tourism-industry-coming.

Other articles online say somewhat the same.

 

The impression I get is that the Chinese travel for quality food & high end shopping.

certainly for the last 12 months..... 4-6 of the months had demonstrations, so that might have put off Chinese tourists & buying.

The notion that the Chinese are bad tourists,that they are cheap spenders is like saying that every farang that comes to Thailand just drinks alcohol & is a sex monger.

 

 

 

They might be spending more money now, but would you like me to post here 20 links, from the past 12 months, of Chinese tourists behaving badly EVERYWHERE they go??

 

Let's put it simply, the modern Chinese culture and morality is down the toilet now and they'll bring that to Thailand also. Are we happy now?

 

edit: Oh, I forgot my source: 4 years of living in China.

 

 

Yeah, I know a few foreigners living in England who don't actually have positive views about the English.

 

How about this. All foreigners in England who don't think highly of the English, well, they should go back to wherever they're from. I certainly don't want foreigners in my country, who stay for a few years, and who reckon that my culture and morality is down the toilet.  :)

 

[tonbridgebrit]

 

I guess thai people prefer to welcome chinese people than westerners?

Not necessarily.........................but the thai-chinese certainly do.

 

 

Yes, those Thai-Chinese, they're the ones who have got the money.

 

Thaksin, he's Chinese. Abhisit, so is he. Sondhi, definitely. Porntip, that's the forensics lady, the one with the funny hair, she is. What about Suthep ? He probably is as well, he's some Chinese man who is a shade darker than the others.

Basically, anybody who looks the same as the Chinese people back home in England, are Chinese. And Chinese in England and Australia. They're the people who have got them Chinese take-away food shops that are all over the place.

:)

[Jackson86]

 

 

I guess thai people prefer to welcome chinese people than westerners?

Not necessarily.........................but the thai-chinese certainly do.

 

 

Yes, those Thai-Chinese, they're the ones who have got the money.

 

Thaksin, he's Chinese. Abhisit, so is he. Sondhi, definitely. Porntip, that's the forensics lady, the one with the funny hair, she is. What about Suthep ? He probably is as well, he's some Chinese man who is a shade darker than the others.

Basically, anybody who looks the same as the Chinese people back home in England, are Chinese. And Chinese in England and Australia. They're the people who have got them Chinese take-away food shops that are all over the place.

 

 

suthep is 100% thai ! he don't look chinese to me. When i go to thailand, thai people thought I'm thai-chinese (i'm ethnic chinese but i'm not from china btw).and i do speak some simple thai.

[elzach]

 

 

 

OK, the country needs quality tourists that spend money in the shops to help boost retail.  Are the Chinese people coming in August-October going to be the big spenders?   Cos the Chinese coming in the last 12 months haven't been spending too much!

 

I haven't had my first coffee yet so sarcasm and wit are sadly lacking!

 

I just had my coffee.....where do you see that the Chinese don't spend?

I'm not doubting your statement maybe you know something that isn't apparent to me, especially for the last 12 months.

Although I have seen comments on various forums that Chinese don't spend money, the stats I see  say the reverse.

From " The Economist" dated april 24,2013

"Nearly one in ten international tourists worldwide is now Chinese, with 97.3m outward-bound journeys from the country last year, of which around half were for leisure. Chinese tourists spend most in total ($129 billion in 2013, followed by Americans at $86 billion) and per tax-free transaction ($1,130 compared with $494 by Russians). More than 80% say that shopping is vital to their plans, compared with 56% of Middle Eastern tourists and 48% of Russians. They are expected to buy more luxury goods next year while abroad than tourists from all other countries combined".

Only around 5% of China’s population now own passports, and most of those who travel go to Hong Kong or Macau. But increased affluence, a trend towards longer holidays, fewer visa conditions and growing numbers of repeat travellers mean that every year more will take foreign trips, and more will venture farther.   http://www.economist.com/news/international/21601028-how-growing-chinese-middle-class-changing-global-tourism-industry-coming.

Other articles online say somewhat the same.

 

The impression I get is that the Chinese travel for quality food & high end shopping.

certainly for the last 12 months..... 4-6 of the months had demonstrations, so that might have put off Chinese tourists & buying.

The notion that the Chinese are bad tourists,that they are cheap spenders is like saying that every farang that comes to Thailand just drinks alcohol & is a sex monger.

 

 

 

They might be spending more money now, but would you like me to post here 20 links, from the past 12 months, of Chinese tourists behaving badly EVERYWHERE they go??

 

Let's put it simply, the modern Chinese culture and morality is down the toilet now and they'll bring that to Thailand also. Are we happy now?

 

edit: Oh, I forgot my source: 4 years of living in China.

 

 

Yeah, I know a few foreigners living in England who don't actually have positive views about the English.

 

How about this. All foreigners in England who don't think highly of the English, well, they should go back to wherever they're from. I certainly don't want foreigners in my country, who stay for a few years, and who reckon that my culture and morality is down the toilet. 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 17, 2014 by elzach

[Johpa]

Seems like a lot of hot air about the Thais treating some Chinese and Taiwanese the exact same way they treat the majority of Farangs, and that is with a tourist visa upon arrival. Lucky for me that my time spent in the Kingdom keeps me away from tourists of all persuasions.

[GAZZPA]

This is a very silly idea. I can only assume it is a knee jerk to the huge fall in tourists from China since the political instability.

 

But who exactly is going to care bout saving a small amount of money on a visa? If any of the wealthy Chinese were planning to come to Thailand waving th visa fee will mean nothing to them, even for the poorer Chinese it is not huge money.

 

The only thing that will bring them back is the feeling that the country is safe and that there is no real possibility of violent outbreaks.

 

 

[tonbridgebrit]

Did you hear the one about the English bloke, the Irish bloke, and the Chinese bloke ?

Well, the English bloke turned up in Spain for a holiday, and didn't like Germans at the beach. He wanted all the Germans removed.

 

And the Irish bloke. He turned up some where up north, in England. He noticed the Pakistanis there, but he didn't actually have a problem with them Pakistanis.

 

And the Chinese bloke. See, he turns up in Melbourne, Australia. He didn't like all those Vietnamese, Lebanese and Indians that he saw. So he talks to his Australian friends, and they smirk at him, and they tell him that they're going to a "Keep Australia White" march. So he turns up at this "Keep Australia White" march. He sees a few Philippine women there, and he doesn't feel right. He reckons those Philippine women make Australia look un-Australian. So he has a pop at those women, telling them that they shouldn't actually be in Australia. But he didn't know that those women were there, to support their boyfriends and husbands for the march. Anyway, one of the boyfriends saw what was happening and confronted the Chinese bloke. And the Chinese bloke was told "look, it's YOU who makes Australia look un-Australian, shut it, you're not part of our march, p___ off back to wherever it is you're from".

Do you believe that the above joke story actually happened ? No, of-course not, it's far too absurd !!

Basically, when you're a foreigner in a country, it's best to keep quite about your resentment towards other foreigners. And when those other foreigners actually look like the locals (or some of the locals), well, even more important to not to play the xenophobia card.
:)

 

[ClutchClark]

Did you hear the one about the English bloke, the Irish bloke, and the Chinese bloke ?
Well, the English bloke turned up in Spain for a holiday, and didn't like Germans at the beach. He wanted all the Germans removed.
 
And the Irish bloke. He turned up some where up north, in England. He noticed the Pakistanis there, but he didn't actually have a problem with them Pakistanis.
 
And the Chinese bloke. See, he turns up in Melbourne, Australia. He didn't like all those Vietnamese, Lebanese and Indians that he saw. So he talks to his Australian friends, and they smirk at him, and they tell him that they're going to a "Keep Australia White" march. So he turns up at this "Keep Australia White" march. He sees a few Philippine women there, and he doesn't feel right. He reckons those Philippine women make Australia look un-Australian. So he has a pop at those women, telling them that they shouldn't actually be in Australia. But he didn't know that those women were there, to support their boyfriends and husbands for the march. Anyway, one of the boyfriends saw what was happening and confronted the Chinese bloke. And the Chinese bloke was told "look, it's YOU who makes Australia look un-Australian, shut it, you're not part of our march, p___ off back to wherever it is you're from".

Do you believe that the above joke story actually happened ? No, of-course not, it's far too absurd !!
Basically, when you're a foreigner in a country, it's best to keep quite about your resentment towards other foreigners. And when those other foreigners actually look like the locals (or some of the locals), well, even more important to not to play the xenophobia card.
:)
 

You're the first Aussie I ever met who couldn't tell a decent joke ;-)

Cheers

[tonbridgebrit]

 

Did you hear the one about the English bloke, the Irish bloke, and the Chinese bloke ?
Well, the English bloke turned up in Spain for a holiday, and didn't like Germans at the beach. He wanted all the Germans removed.
 
And the Irish bloke. He turned up some where up north, in England. He noticed the Pakistanis there, but he didn't actually have a problem with them Pakistanis.
 
And the Chinese bloke. See, he turns up in Melbourne, Australia. He didn't like all those Vietnamese, Lebanese and Indians that he saw. So he talks to his Australian friends, and they smirk at him, and they tell him that they're going to a "Keep Australia White" march. So he turns up at this "Keep Australia White" march. He sees a few Philippine women there, and he doesn't feel right. He reckons those Philippine women make Australia look un-Australian. So he has a pop at those women, telling them that they shouldn't actually be in Australia. But he didn't know that those women were there, to support their boyfriends and husbands for the march. Anyway, one of the boyfriends saw what was happening and confronted the Chinese bloke. And the Chinese bloke was told "look, it's YOU who makes Australia look un-Australian, shut it, you're not part of our march, p___ off back to wherever it is you're from".

Do you believe that the above joke story actually happened ? No, of-course not, it's far too absurd !!
Basically, when you're a foreigner in a country, it's best to keep quite about your resentment towards other foreigners. And when those other foreigners actually look like the locals (or some of the locals), well, even more important to not to play the xenophobia card.

 

You're the first Aussie I ever met who couldn't tell a decent joke ;-)

Cheers

 

 

No, I'm not Australian. But I do know there are Australians who take the Thai/Philipino girlfriend/wife back to Australia, and they support the "Keep Australia White" policy.

Thanks for reading !
 

[bkkden]

PRC travelers are the worlds largest spenders. They spend USD 1,800 per person per day when they travel. With only 19% of the worlds population they purchase almost 40% all the worlds luxury goods. These are actual facts and you can google it you like.
Every tourist destination should be focused on the PRC high spend travelers. To do this you target independent travelers (the people with the money) and move away from the prepackaged tour groups. Dropping visas is how you do it! This decision will be good for business and the tour and travel industry.
Very good decision.


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[212traders]

Supposedly the visa fee is waived and they get landing visa. However, I have Taiwanese friends who just entered Thailand 2 days ago. The immigration officers charged them 200 Bahts each for "handling fee". But when my friends asked for a receipt, the officers said, "No receipts." It's kind of like extortion.