Popular Post a99az Posted July 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2014 After a good deal of thought I decided to leave Thailand and last year I took my Thai wife and our two children to the UK. It was a hard decision as we was happy with our life in Thailand. I had a good job teaching and we owned our home and had a small but successful bar restaurant too. But I was never happy with the standard of Education for our children, add to this the uncertainty with renewing my visa. I simply felt vulnerable to the whims of immigration. So wood the recent changes have impacted on me, probably not. But I do feel that the move was the bet thing for the children they love school here and we all are so much more happier and relaxed with life. We will visit Thailand next year for our summer holidays and I am sure we will enjoy it more in the knowledge that we are all tourists. I do wonder what the future is for expats in Thailand, I don't see it getting better or becoming easier. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 May I ask, in hindsight, how / why did you feel vulnerable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) I don't see that the future for non-Asian foreigners in Thailand will be good at all. Any of them. Got a couple of white foreigner pals in CM, been here a long time, nationwide business, $$$$s turnover, totally legit. They just had a problem renewing their VISA and WP a couple of weeks back. Never happened to them before. What surprised me most is the way they started treating Koreans! Edited July 17, 2014 by AnotherOneAmerican 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bernard Flint Posted July 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2014 vunerable maybe speeling would as wood might make you feel vunerable hahahahah sorry i jest and digress My future is brilliant as an expat ,dont need to work, dont need a beer bar, and staying her for 11 years legaly, what more could a man want 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GuestHouse Posted July 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2014 Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATF Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I hope you declared all your overseas assets to the UK Government in exchange for your free education and other benefits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GuestHouse Posted July 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2014 vunerable maybe speeling would as wood might make you feel vunerable hahahahah sorry i jest and digress My future is brilliant as an expat ,dont need to work, dont need a beer bar, and staying her for 11 years legaly, what more could a man want The OP has clearly stated he has children and that the education of his children is a major factor in his decision, the responsibilities he carries may not be the same as your own. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pomthai Posted July 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2014 I hope you declared all your overseas assets to the UK Government in exchange for your free education and other benefits. I'm sure he did Dad. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GuestHouse Posted July 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2014 I hope you declared all your overseas assets to the UK Government in exchange for your free education and other benefits. Overseas assets or indeed any assets are not a consideration in access to state education. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thailiketoo Posted July 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2014 I have heard of no changes to the visa extension based on marriage so your post is just the usual Thai bash. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I have heard of no changes to the visa extension based on marriage so your post is just the usual Thai bash. I will give him the benefit of the doubt instead of accusing him of sour grapes - like i could have but wont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JockPieandBeans Posted July 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2014 I have heard of no changes to the visa extension based on marriage so your post is just the usual Thai bash. I will give him the benefit of the doubt instead of accusing him of sour grapes - like i could have but wont He took his Thai wife and 2 children to the UK = Thai bashing To give his children a better education = Thai bashing I think some should engage brain before letting their belly rumble 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tso310 Posted July 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2014 Educating our children in Thailand was never an option. I know there are a few on TV who will slag off the UK educational system but it is light years ahead of anything Thailand has to offer. I have found that many Thais can't think laterally. That's also a problem I have with Indians in IT. Facts are taught and what ever the teacher says is correct. Unlike in the UK and the rest of Europe where you are taught the concepts and how to adapt them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I don't see that the future for non-Asian foreigners in Thailand will be good at all. Any of them. Got a couple of white foreigner pals in CM, been here a long time, nationwide business, $$$$s turnover, totally legit. They just had a problem renewing their VISA and WP a couple of weeks back. Never happened to them before. What surprised me most is the way they started treating Koreans! Better go back to the UK then Tommo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATF Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I hope you declared all your overseas assets to the UK Government in exchange for your free education and other benefits. Overseas assets or indeed any assets are not a consideration in access to state education. Someone is teaching in Thailand then moves to the UK with two kids. Can't afford to send them to an International school here but can just up roots and live in the UK without benefits? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I don't see that the future for non-Asian foreigners in Thailand will be good at all. Any of them. Got a couple of white foreigner pals in CM, been here a long time, nationwide business, $$$$s turnover, totally legit. They just had a problem renewing their VISA and WP a couple of weeks back. Never happened to them before. What surprised me most is the way they started treating Koreans! Better go back to the UK then Tommo. Would be interested to learn more what problems his pals had remewing their WP s Sent from my LG-P970 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I hope you declared all your overseas assets to the UK Government in exchange for your free education and other benefits. Overseas assets or indeed any assets are not a consideration in access to state education. Someone is teaching in Thailand then moves to the UK with two kids. Can't afford to send them to an International school here but can just up roots and live in the UK without benefits? I don't think so. A qualified teacher in the UK can easily get a wage of 25k/year. His wife can also work in the UK the day they get off the plane, even as a cleaner she would earn 10-14k/year Easily done for a family with two adults of working age. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ATF Posted July 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2014 I don't see that the future for non-Asian foreigners in Thailand will be good at all. Any of them. Got a couple of white foreigner pals in CM, been here a long time, nationwide business, $$$$s turnover, totally legit. They just had a problem renewing their VISA and WP a couple of weeks back. Never happened to them before. What surprised me most is the way they started treating Koreans! Better go back to the UK then Tommo. Would be interested to learn more what problems his pals had remewing their WP s Sent from my LG-P970 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app It's just another Troll bashing his head against the bridge. Why is it the big money guys ALWAYS get problems with WPS, Visas etc. A load of Cock and Bull. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NoshowJones Posted July 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2014 Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. That's OK for now, but the way the UK is going, and by the time the children are adults, the country will be well on the way to being under the control of people of a certain faith. If Thailand can just sort a few things out with the help of the general, the country can get better. At least the Thais look after their own first, something the UK have never done. It's just a pity that the education is so poor here. I think that is about the only thing the UK have ahead of Thailand. also, the corruption is even worse from the UK government than it was in Thailand. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I hope you declared all your overseas assets to the UK Government in exchange for your free education and other benefits. Why should the OP do that? The UK government will only use it to help pay for overseas aid, and of course MPs "expenses". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATF Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Someone is teaching in Thailand then moves to the UK with two kids. Can't afford to send them to an International school here but can just up roots and live in the UK without benefits? I don't think so. A qualified teacher in the UK can easily get a wage of 25k/year. His wife can also work in the UK the day they get off the plane, even as a cleaner she would earn 10-14k/year Easily done for a family with two adults of working age. 25K minus 30% tax = 1458 GBP pm or $2500 pm try living off that in the UK. Not having a go at you but it's peanuts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Flint Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 vunerable maybe speeling would as wood might make you feel vunerable hahahahah sorry i jest and digress My future is brilliant as an expat ,dont need to work, dont need a beer bar, and staying her for 11 years legaly, what more could a man want The OP has clearly stated he has children and that the education of his children is a major factor in his decision, the responsibilities he carries may not be the same as your own. The OP CLEARLY stated this too . I do wonder what the future is for expats in Thailand, I don't see it getting better or becoming easier. i answered what my future is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATF Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I hope you declared all your overseas assets to the UK Government in exchange for your free education and other benefits. Why should the OP do that? The UK government will only use it to help pay for overseas aid, and of course MPs "expenses". I'm with you on that but Dalai wants his bread buttered on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I hope you declared all your overseas assets to the UK Government in exchange for your free education and other benefits. Why should the OP do that? The UK government will only use it to help pay for overseas aid, and of course MPs "expenses". I'm with you on that but Dalai wants his bread buttered on both sides. I seem to be missing something here, who is Dalai? Anyway, I'm glad you agree with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simon43 Posted July 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2014 We will visit Thailand next year for our summer holidays Make sure you have the correct visa for this, otherwise you might be denied entry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I have heard of no changes to the visa extension based on marriage so your post is just the usual Thai bash. I will give him the benefit of the doubt instead of accusing him of sour grapes - like i could have but wont He took his Thai wife and 2 children to the UK = Thai bashing To give his children a better education = Thai bashing I think some should engage brain before letting their belly rumble The OP wrote, " I do wonder what the future is for expats in Thailand, I don't see it getting better or becoming easier." Simple Thai bashing. His opinion. No problem that. I see Thailand getting better and becoming easier. Am I a Thai apologist? Of course unless I backed it up. The OP talks about the rumors about the new visa regs although says it doesn't apply to him. Well then why mention it? Everybody is jumping on the rumored visa regs like they are the knell of doom. 3 people a day refused a entry becomes, scores of people refused entry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATF Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I'm with you on that but Dalai wants his bread buttered on both sides. I seem to be missing something here, who is Dalai? Anyway, I'm glad you agree with me. Dalai is the OP check out his pic. I am perfectly happy with the way Thailand is being run. It's just some people have problems following simple instructions. Overstayers are next against the wall: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Thailand 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rgs2001uk Posted July 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2014 Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. That's OK for now, but the way the UK is going, and by the time the children are adults, the country will be well on the way to being under the control of people of a certain faith. If Thailand can just sort a few things out with the help of the general, the country can get better. At least the Thais look after their own first, something the UK have never done. It's just a pity that the education is so poor here. I think that is about the only thing the UK have ahead of Thailand. also, the corruption is even worse from the UK government than it was in Thailand. No mention made of the right to own your own property in your own name. No mention made of the welfare state or National Health Service. No mention made of not losing pension increases caused by not living in the UK. Many on here like to knock the UK (I have knocked it myself at times), but the bottom line, its always available as a last resort when back up plans A, B and C have gone tits up. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JockPieandBeans Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I have heard of no changes to the visa extension based on marriage so your post is just the usual Thai bash. I will give him the benefit of the doubt instead of accusing him of sour grapes - like i could have but wont He took his Thai wife and 2 children to the UK = Thai bashing To give his children a better education = Thai bashing I think some should engage brain before letting their belly rumble The OP wrote, " I do wonder what the future is for expats in Thailand, I don't see it getting better or becoming easier." Simple Thai bashing. His opinion. No problem that. I see Thailand getting better and becoming easier. Am I a Thai apologist? Of course unless I backed it up. The OP talks about the rumors about the new visa regs although says it doesn't apply to him. Well then why mention it? Everybody is jumping on the rumored visa regs like they are the knell of doom. 3 people a day refused a entry becomes, scores of people refused entry. " The OP wrote, " I do wonder what the future is for expats in Thailand, I don't see it getting better or becoming easier." Simple Thai bashing. His opinion. No problem that. " Please explain where you find Thai bashing in the above quote. In fact you say " His opinion, No problem that " There are plenty people talking about Visa's, not all are Thai bashing. Some are, normally the ones that have been caught out. So tell me again, where you find Thai bashing in the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. That's OK for now, but the way the UK is going, and by the time the children are adults, the country will be well on the way to being under the control of people of a certain faith. If Thailand can just sort a few things out with the help of the general, the country can get better. At least the Thais look after their own first, something the UK have never done. It's just a pity that the education is so poor here. I think that is about the only thing the UK have ahead of Thailand. also, the corruption is even worse from the UK government than it was in Thailand. No mention made of the right to own your own property in your own name. No mention made of the welfare state or National Health Service. No mention made of not losing pension increases caused by not living in the UK. Many on here like to knock the UK (I have knocked it myself at times), but the bottom line, its always available as a last resort when back up plans A, B and C have gone tits up. You make good points, no country is perfect, If something happened that would force me to leave Thailand, there is no way I would ever go back to stay in the UK, I went back for three months during the floods, and the place was crowded out by emigrants, they have taken the place over, and the streets are not safe. Maybe I would move to Cambodia, and could always go the Thailand from time to time to see my wife. But I don't think that will ever happen, but that would probably be my plan B. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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