joshstiles Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) A person from Cambodia comes to thailand to work. He gets a job in a factory and all the work permit / paperwork is quickly taken care of. A person from the UK comes to thailand to work. He gets a job teaching english, but has to wait possibly a few months and fill out a pile of documents / paperwork for his work permit. Why is there a difference for different foreigners? Isn't this a double standard? Or am I not understanding the matter correctly? Anyone know? ...ps...sorry for the grammatical error in the title Edited July 18, 2014 by joshstiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiSoLowSoNoSo Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Ask the Immigration officer when you arrive next time, same time you can ask him why you have to pay 200 THB to visist a national park in Thailand when the locals pay only 40 THB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Because there are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceanbat Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 A person from Cambodia comes to thailand to work. He gets a job in a factory and all the work permit / paperwork is quickly taken care of. A person from the UK comes to thailand to work. He gets a job teaching english, but has to wait possibly a few months and fill out a pile of documents / paperwork for his work permit. Why is there a difference for different foreigners? Isn't this a double standard? Or am I not understanding the matter correctly? Anyone know? ...ps...sorry for the grammatical error in the title They probably have bilateral agreements. How old are you?OB Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soutpeel Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Isn't this a double standard? Not at all its a subtle hint that Asian workers are more useful and more wanted in Thailand than the vast majority of westerners thats all Asians such as Cambodians, burmese etc are wanted, Most "classes" of Westerners are merely tolerated Edited July 18, 2014 by Soutpeel 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post puchooay Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 If you want to work in a factory for less than the minimum wage then go ahead. I'm sure the fact that you have a work permit quickly will make you very happy. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Flint Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 If you want to work in a factory for less than the minimum wage then go ahead. I'm sure the fact that you have a work permit quickly will make you very happy. Good answer, the OP want 50,000gbp per year,cos he is a westerner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 There are special rules for migrant workers from Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar because Thailand has a need for laborers. I would not call it a double standard. Would you be willing to work for 300 baht a day? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NamKangMan Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 There are thousands of Burmese working here in construction. Aren't these people taking Thai jobs? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrtoad Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 Maybe the OP might like to have the same employment conditions that the Cambodian workers gt, if it means getting his WP and Visa faster. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Possible that the OP might be facing some visa issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1FinickyOne Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 Isn't there a double standard where you are from - can a rich man from Switzerland enter England more easily than a poor man from Nigeria? The world is full of double standards… anyone who has had a girlfriend knows this… 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1FinickyOne Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 And add to that, you were allowed an easy entry to Thailand but can a Thai enter England just as easily? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 There are special rules for migrant workers from Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar because Thailand has a need for laborers. I would not call it a double standard. Would you be willing to work for 300 baht a day? One suspects the way this visa thing is going, there would be some who would work for THB 300 just to get the WP.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 The EU has different rules for country's outside the EU too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 There are special rules for migrant workers from Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar because Thailand has a need for laborers. I would not call it a double standard. Would you be willing to work for 300 baht a day? One suspects the way this visa thing is going, there would be some who would work for THB 300 just to get the WP.. isn't that what TEFL teachers get per hour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glegolo Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 joshstilesHmm.... So you mean that Europe where you come from, do not treat people from outside Europe differently??? Europeans can run around all over the continent, while the non-europeans have to fill in so much papers and documents so it kills them. Surely,,, if you think about it you understand and agree,,, Glegolo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oceanbat Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 joshstiles Hmm.... So you mean that Europe where you come from, do not treat people from outside Europe differently??? Europeans can run around all over the continent, while the non-europeans have to fill in so much papers and documents so it kills them. Surely,,, if you think about it you understand and agree,,, Glegolo I believe he means he can't understand why he doesn't get special treatment because he is whiteOB Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gray42 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) OP is wondering why farang are treated differently. I explained why I think we're not treated the same. Edited July 18, 2014 by gray42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NamKangMan Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 There are special rules for migrant workers from Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar because Thailand has a need for laborers. I would not call it a double standard. Would you be willing to work for 300 baht a day? Hypothetically, what if a farang was willing to work for 300 baht a day? The fact he is not allowed to, is discrimination, isn't it? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrtoad Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 Surely Bwana should be getting better treatment 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soutpeel Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 There are special rules for migrant workers from Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar because Thailand has a need for laborers. I would not call it a double standard. Would you be willing to work for 300 baht a day? Hypothetically, what if a farang was willing to work for 300 baht a day? The fact he is not allowed to, is discrimination, isn't it? I guess hypothetically, if the jobs not on the prohibited employment list, there is nothing specifically in the labour laws which would stop somebody working for THB 300/day but one suspects the incumbent better speak Khmer / bumese /Thai fluently as they wouldnt really qualify for the postion if they cant understand the instructions given, but really cant picture a bunch of lilley white "arjans" humping 50kg bags of cement, being knee deep in concrete, climbing laddrers with bricks on their backs can you ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 There are special rules for migrant workers from Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar because Thailand has a need for laborers. I would not call it a double standard. Would you be willing to work for 300 baht a day? One suspects the way this visa thing is going, there would be some who would work for THB 300 just to get the WP.. isn't that what TEFL teachers get per hour? THB 300/hr !..... actually just pulled the "ready reconer" based on a THB 45k/m salary pre tax its about THB 267.85/hr To put this into other money terms its about USD 67/d so up about 14% on the US minimum wage or GDP 48.64/d (USD 82.87) or about 20% down on UK minimum wage (provided I have my minimum wage numbers about right) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salavan Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 There are special rules for migrant workers from Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar because Thailand has a need for laborers. I would not call it a double standard. Would you be willing to work for 300 baht a day? unlikely they are even getting 300 baht a day i suspect that migrant workers from neibouring country's are getting less than the minimum wage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Isn't this a double standard? Not at all its a subtle hint that Asian workers are more useful and more wanted in Thailand than the vast majority of westerners thats all Asians such as Cambodians, burmese etc are wanted, Most "classes" of Westerners are merely tolerated I"sn't this a double standard?" What? dose Thailand has a double standard system? NO... not possible, they're too fair and humane to have that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYJAYDEE Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Isn't this a double standard? Not at all its a subtle hint that Asian workers are more useful and more wanted in Thailand than the vast majority of westerners thats all Asians such as Cambodians, burmese etc are wanted, Most "classes" of Westerners are merely tolerated I"sn't this a double standard?" What? dose Thailand has a double standard system? NO... not possible, they're too fair and humane to have that.... name me a country that doesnt have double standards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PattayaPhom Posted July 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) In the local supermarket in the UK, there was a Frenchman, German, Greek, Spaniard, Dutch, Belgium, Polish and Portagueese working there and had just arrived in the UK that morning. My Thai wife of 20 years and living in the UK for almost a year isnt allowed to work....example only..double standards or what Edited July 19, 2014 by PattayaPhom 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhgz Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 "Isn't this a double standard?" So? Every country sets its own rules and regulations, and it's time for you to understand that life is not "fair". Put on your big boy pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Many of these workers are brought in by groups, through an Agency. You are not. The Agencies that export/import workers, probably "arrange" things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardy99 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 This is nothing about double Standards, this is the same as for example in Europe ... If you are from the UK I cant understand that you ask.. It is not about eastern and western.. it is about foreigners of neighboring countries who are in ASEAN or other country's citizen. Korea, Japan and so on are eastern countries too, depending where on earth you stay IN Europe only EU People are free to travel and work, all others have strong restrictions! This is just a Standard procedure like in many other countrys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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