webfact Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Rotten rice should be turned into ethanolBANGKOK: -- The estimated 100,000 tonnes of rotten rice in storage should be sold to the PTT Plc and then turned into ethanol. The above was an idea floated by Mr Rangsan Srivorasart, finance permanent secretary and a board member of PTT Plc. He said that the rotten rice, estimated at 100,000 tonnes stored in warehouses could be sold to the PTT Plc to be turned into ethanol. Mr Rangsan disclosed that PTT had no objection to the idea because it has the facility to produce ethanol. However, he said that it would all depend on the price of the rotten rice which was to be charged on the PTT. Mr Rangsan further said the sale of the rotten rice would help the state spared the storage expenses. In order to sell the rotten rice, he said that consultation with the Rice Policy Committee, the Commerce and Agriculture ministries is required. (Photo : ThaiPBS file) Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/rotten-rice-turned-ethanol/ [thaipbs]2014-07-31[/thaipbs] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyself Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I agree and all proceeds should be given to help the starving in the world. Shame on Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Deerhunter Posted July 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) I have been saying this for months on this forum. The price it goes to PTT for is irrelevant. The stuff has no value & would go to a landfill for the same transport costs to get it to PTT's ethanol facility. It gets embarrasing poor grade rice out of the inventory system. This removes one depressing factor from the price of thai rice on the world market by reducing the amount of stock listed as "available for sale." It also helps to give potential buyers confidence that poor grade rice is disposed of & not in the for-sale inventory. At the moment some markets would be closed to Thai rice on the fear that any potential purchase might contain some of it "by accident." It is a win-win-no-brainer. Edited July 31, 2014 by The Deerhunter 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alant Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 PTT sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy chef 1 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 let's produce more Lao Kao and keep the masses happy.ethanol/methanol where is the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I think the PTT idea of a deal is paying the transport costs to their facilities no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Sell the rotten rice to PTT for a reasonable market value, and use the proceeds of cash from the sale to reduce the price of the rice for the masses that are starving in Thailand. Shame on Thailand for allowing your own people to starve, when the price of good quality rice is way above the affordability of so many. After all, there are an estimated 18 Million tons of this stuff stockpiled, surely a couple of million tons for the people at a subsidised rate would not seem so much money to loose from the coffers, and things like this would surely bring back the " happiness and wellbeing " to the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 A Democrat whistleblower on the great Thai rice crisis fraud/corruption/contamination (strike out whichever strikes your fancy) is disturbed to find that most of the rice stocks are in good shape. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/rice-whistleblower-baffled-10-percent-rice-stockpiles-bad/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuropeanExpat Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 There are more intelligent and lucrative options to turn rotten rice into something more valuable then Ethanol. We are currently proposing these options to the relevant authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 If due diligence was being followed in this scam. the rotten, discolored, weevil eaten, missing, etc rice would be paid for, at the grossely inflated price by those tasked with its milling, transport, storage, fumigation as well as those responsible for its theft. The ''good old boy'' network/system just keeps wanting to get involved in something that they should be setting on the sidelines. watching and it would seem, paying for their share of the plundered spoils now that they have been caught out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuropeanExpat Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Besides, the estimate is 5% to 10% of the stockpile of 18 Mln. MT'S is unfit for human consumption. That's a lot more then the 100,000 MT'S mentioned here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebeli Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I agree and all proceeds should be given to help the starving in the world. Shame on Thailand. This is about rotten rice. Rice that is not suitable for consumption. Shame on you for bashing thailand for this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardy99 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Thats one possibility to do. I written about that Long time ago.The other question is why the government needs to own Rice? The whole System is wrong, completely wrong!If Ricefarmers Need to get Support by the government because the benefit of work doent fit the living coststhere are other ways to solve that Problem.Store hundreds of thousands of tons of Rice, a foodstuff what has an expiration date and easy can rottenis the wrong way to go! Even if there is no thieves, no corruption, all stocks as they should be - it costsa hell lot of Money for store, maintenance and care ...Not only the rotten Rice should be used immediately for produce animal Food or Ethanol or what ever...The Rice near to get over date also can be given for human aid programs, processed for Rice flour and others..Last but not least educate and help the farmers to Change away from riceproduction to something else, shurethat needs Support - but in the end will give a benefit to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 A Democrat whistleblower on the great Thai rice crisis fraud/corruption/contamination (strike out whichever strikes your fancy) is disturbed to find that most of the rice stocks are in good shape. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/rice-whistleblower-baffled-10-percent-rice-stockpiles-bad/ "Most" really .. if you include the stolen and the rotten what percentage is there ... oh I remember .. we don't know yet as the inspection isn't over! Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBobThai Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) After making ethanol, the residue can then be used as animal feed. Edited July 31, 2014 by BillyBobThai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 so nobody minds the pesticides, herbicides & other dangerous stuff that would come with the rotten rice converted into ethanol ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I agree and all proceeds should be given to help the starving in the world. Shame on Thailand. This is about rotten rice. Rice that is not suitable for consumption. Shame on you for bashing thailand for this. Anyway there is enough food on this planet, the problem is that the poor one, don't have the money to buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 turned into ethanol means most probably to add it to beer. Thai beer anyway tastes a bit rotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Free Lao Khau. Happiness galore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 let's produce more Lao Kao and keep the masses happy.ethanol/methanol where is the difference? I shure can'th shee ith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy chef 1 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 let's produce more Lao Kao and keep the masses happy.ethanol/methanol where is the difference? I shure can'th shee ith that's the reason behind it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcrab Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Sell the rotten rice to PTT for a reasonable market value, and use the proceeds of cash from the sale to reduce the price of the rice for the masses that are starving in Thailand. Shame on Thailand for allowing your own people to starve, when the price of good quality rice is way above the affordability of so many. After all, there are an estimated 18 Million tons of this stuff stockpiled, surely a couple of million tons for the people at a subsidised rate would not seem so much money to loose from the coffers, and things like this would surely bring back the " happiness and wellbeing " to the people. Sure you got the right continent?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Rotten Thai rice should be turned into ethanol If it improves the taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaanUSA Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 There are more intelligent and lucrative options to turn rotten rice into something more valuable then Ethanol. We are currently proposing these options to the relevant authorities. Just curious....can you give some examples? so nobody minds the pesticides, herbicides & other dangerous stuff that would come with the rotten rice converted into ethanol ? What are you talking about? Distilling would remove those items, and even if somehow the end product contained those chemicals, your car would still run fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetley Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I think the PTT idea of a deal is paying the transport costs to their facilities no more. I would imagine PTT's opening offer will be 'how much will you give us to take it away?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuropeanExpat Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I understand your curiosity but it's a bit premature to disclose these options in a public forum, but when the time is right and the project is well on its way I guess the media will discover and dissiminate the good news anyway Sent from my SM-G900F using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaanUSA Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Okay, thanks. Is it food (human or livestock) related in any way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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