Told at the airport this will be my last visit on a 30 day visa to Thailand

[bangkoklasse]

^{And he signed up and joined Thai visa 40 minutes before this post}

^{A lot of people have joined TV and posted things like this within one hour} in the last weeks. Probably just coincidence.........

Edited August 1, 2014 by bangkoklasse

[casualbiker]

^{And he signed up and joined Thai visa 40 minutes before this post}

^{A lot of people have joined TV and posted things like this within one hour} in the last weeks. Probably just coincidence.........

Probably just want to give information about the situation WITHOUT giving to many personal details about themselves .. so a new nick!

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[Franky Bear]

^{And he signed up and joined Thai visa 40 minutes before this post}

^{A lot of people have joined TV and posted things like this within one hour} in the last weeks. Probably just coincidence.........

he did post a picture of his visa stamp mate

[spidermike007]

The military government seems to be designing policy without any regard for the financial impact it has on the local economy, nor on tourism. And it will have an impact. There are just too many choices guys like this have, when it comes to where he wants to spend his hard earned money. This is the kind of tourist Thailand wants to have here. He is spending good money, and creating problems for nobody. He leaves after 30 days, goes out and earns a lot more money, then comes back.The level of ignorance some of these immigration officers are conveying, is completely without regard to the well being of their country. Nothing wrong with strong immigration policy. There are a lot of undesirables here, and nothing wrong with the government trying to root them out. But, this kind of policy is simply wrong headed. It needs to be well considered, and it needs to be done in such a way that it does not cause great inconvenience to the kinds of tourists the country wants, and needs to have.

[JockPieandBeans]

Simple solution !!!

Get a single entry tourist visa before you come again

Problem solved ?

Give me directions for the Thai Consulate / Embassy in Basra please ?

[ubonjoe]

The real acid test is after the 12/13th.

I get the feeling if anything, we will each get a "warning" and allowed through.....after that if we don;t get a visa we might have problems

I reality will be nothing more than the Queens birthday.

The 12th is just a date for immigration to officially start enforcing the in/out rules for visa runners.

This from a internal guideline immigration that has been sent out.

The alien must not enter the Kingdom by exploiting 30-day visa exemptions undertaking method “in-out” or called by foreigners as “Visa run”.

Aliens use the advantage of Tourist Visa Exemption by leaving Thailand and returning immediately for the purpose of extending their stay,

which is considered from the tourism point of view to be longer than necessary and not in line with the purpose permitted while entering country.

Your trips certainly do not fit into the profile of doing in/outs.

[Franky Bear]

The military government seems to be designing policy without any regard for the financial impact it has on the local economy, nor on tourism. And it will have an impact. There are just too many choices guys like this have, when it comes to where he wants to spend his hard earned money. This is the kind of tourist Thailand wants to have here. He is spending good money, and creating problems for nobody. He leaves after 30 days, goes out and earns a lot more money, then comes back.The level of ignorance some of these immigration officers are conveying, is completely without regard to the well being of their country. Nothing wrong with strong immigration policy. There are a lot of undesirables here, and nothing wrong with the government trying to root them out. But, this kind of policy is simply wrong headed. It needs to be well considered, and it needs to be done in such a way that it does not cause great inconvenience to the kinds of tourists the country wants, and needs to have.

How do the immigration officers know we are well paid oil workers though mate? I totally understand why they're doing what they are allegedly doing.

[Franky Bear]

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Edited August 1, 2014 by Franky Bear

[larsjohnsson]

I don't get the" I need to leave the country and get a non B visa prior to getting a marriage visa ?

[ubonjoe]

The real acid test is after the 12/13th.

I get the feeling if anything, we will each get a "warning" and allowed through.....after that if we don;t get a visa we might have problems

I reality will be nothing more than the Queens birthday.

The 12th is just a date for immigration to officially start enforcing the in/out rules for visa runners.

This from a internal guideline immigration that has been sent out.

The alien must not enter the Kingdom by exploiting 30-day visa exemptions undertaking method “in-out” or called by foreigners as “Visa run”. Aliens use the advantage of Tourist Visa Exemption by leaving Thailand and returning immediately for the purpose of extending their stay, which is considered from the tourism point of view to be longer than necessary and not in line with the purpose permitted while entering country.

Your trips certainly do not fit into the profile of doing in/outs.

so being away 28/30 days (i'll have been away 30 days this time) means i am going to have problems mate?

I fixed the quote you did your post while I was doing an edit.

You do not fit the profile.

[Franky Bear]

I fixed the quote you did your post while I was doing an edit.

You do not fit the profile.

Thanks mate.

[spidermike007]

The military government seems to be designing policy without any regard for the financial impact it has on the local economy, nor on tourism. And it will have an impact. There are just too many choices guys like this have, when it comes to where he wants to spend his hard earned money. This is the kind of tourist Thailand wants to have here. He is spending good money, and creating problems for nobody. He leaves after 30 days, goes out and earns a lot more money, then comes back.The level of ignorance some of these immigration officers are conveying, is completely without regard to the well being of their country. Nothing wrong with strong immigration policy. There are a lot of undesirables here, and nothing wrong with the government trying to root them out. But, this kind of policy is simply wrong headed. It needs to be well considered, and it needs to be done in such a way that it does not cause great inconvenience to the kinds of tourists the country wants, and needs to have.

How do the immigration officers know we are well paid oil workers though mate? I totally understand why they're doing what they are allegedly doing.

Well, they are looking for a certain kind of guy, who is abusing the system, and is barely able to support himself. Good immigration work is all about intelligence. They should easily be able to see that you just do not fit the profile. No overstays, in and out on a regular basis, with no problems. No issues with the law. Gainfully employed, etc. Basic stuff.

[Franky Bear]

The military government seems to be designing policy without any regard for the financial impact it has on the local economy, nor on tourism. And it will have an impact. There are just too many choices guys like this have, when it comes to where he wants to spend his hard earned money. This is the kind of tourist Thailand wants to have here. He is spending good money, and creating problems for nobody. He leaves after 30 days, goes out and earns a lot more money, then comes back.The level of ignorance some of these immigration officers are conveying, is completely without regard to the well being of their country. Nothing wrong with strong immigration policy. There are a lot of undesirables here, and nothing wrong with the government trying to root them out. But, this kind of policy is simply wrong headed. It needs to be well considered, and it needs to be done in such a way that it does not cause great inconvenience to the kinds of tourists the country wants, and needs to have.

How do the immigration officers know we are well paid oil workers though mate? I totally understand why they're doing what they are allegedly doing.

Well, they are looking for a certain kind of guy, who is abusing the system, and is barely able to support himself. Good immigration work is all about intelligence. They should easily be able to see that you just do not fit the profile. No overstays, in and out on a regular basis, with no problems. No issues with the law. Gainfully employed, etc. Basic stuff.

Suppose yeah. I do have a 2 day overstay that i paid at swampy. Plus 4 or 5 Cambodian IO's :/

But, after this time into Thailand i will have a brand new fresh passport with the appropriate visa for me as i will be married then

[VINCENT2012]

the law said that you can not stay in thailand as a tourist more than 6 mounths in a year time, and never more than 3 mounths concecutivly.(3 mounths in thailand and after 3 mounth in your country)

but perhaps they want to change this too!

now if you are married just get a multiple entry non immigrant 0 visa in your home country and next year a visa extension in thailand

scheck well all the document you need at the ambassy or at the thai immigration office.you need money in a thai bank too on your name only

good luck

[kovaltech]

Op, since you are married, your correct, suitable for your purposes visa would be:

Non imm O, based on marriage, multiple entry.

No need for applying an extension of stay.

The fastest way, since you are in Thailand now, take a short trip to Savannaketh Laos and get your visa.

No more hassle at the borders for the next year...

[samran]

Member since yesterday?

[stailmanki]

Simple solution !!!

Get a single entry tourist visa before you come again

Problem solved

What a useless unhelpful post, this guy does not understand FIFO work.

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[kovaltech]

the law said that you can not stay in thailand as a tourist more than 6 mounths in a year time, and never more than 3 mounths concecutivly.(3 mounths in thailand and after 3 mounth in your country)

but perhaps they want to change this too!

now if you are married just get a multiple entry non immigrant 0 visa in your home country and next year a visa extension in thailand

scheck well all the document you need at the ambassy or at the thai immigration office.you need money in a thai bank too on your name only

good luck

Where is it stated in the law about the total of 6 months?

[itsari]

if you don't contribute they don't want you here, sitting in a bar all day doesn't count, get a proper visa it ain't that difficult...

We must assume you are a worthy contributing member of society with a comment like that . However there are many people that sit in bars and able to contribute to society . Your statement is pretentious .

[stailmanki]

if you don't contribute they don't want you here, sitting in a bar all day doesn't count, get a proper visa it ain't that difficult...

how exactly does a FIFO worker not contribute?

They would be the sort of people any country would want; seriously cashed up foreigners enjoying their break.

What Visa should he have? He only visits for less than 30 days at a time on his time off.

It has never been about "contribute" or not. That has never been mentioned by any official ever. It's about getting the right visa. If you come for an occasional short vacation that is fine. If you're coming on back to back 28 day in/28 day out visa free visit, according to what they have said that is not fine.

If a Visitor says they are a FIFO worker on work rotation. Then from Thai immigration perspective it sounds like you come to work in Thailand for 28 days then live in some other country for 28 days. How are they to know that it's the other way around? Thai immigration are not with modern times and simply can't get their head around what offshore FIFO work is about.

I fail to see what's so complicated about visa that most people here don't get. It's not only about the work. As was mentioned in another reply - it's about the CORRECT type of visa.

Say a friend of yours has a couple of months free time and wants to come visit you (and stay with you) - you'd probably want him/her to leave at the end of the agreed term of the visit - something like a 60 days tourist visa.

Another friend might be in the neighborhood or on the way somewhere which puts him near your home and would like to pop in for a short visit - you'd expect him to be on his way after his short agreed upon visit as well - and that's kind of like the visa exempt program which is really an extension of a transit visa.

Now - if that friend would have been working somewhere near your home and would like to STAY at your home every time he has a day or 2 off - then you'd probably want to come to some sort of an agreement on how he stays, what he can / should do at your home and maybe even share some rent and other expenses with you, as now he is NOT a VISITOR any longer, now he actually RESIDES in your home - that's the different visa categories like retirement, marriage, business.

The OP states that in 1 year of his current passport he's been in Thailand an accumulated time of 150 days. Hardy the occasional visitor, and immigration officers were kind enough to tell him he need to get the correct type of visa for his situation.

Same goes for all those who get an easy and cheap ED visa and think now it's OK for them to stay and do whatever they want (which in most cases does not include studying....), well, go get the CORRECT type of visa for your actual purpose. It's not so difficult nor very costly to do the right thing here.

Would you like to tell us all what the appropriate visa may be? There is no visa for single guys under 50 years old who FIFO, only investment types, Elite card. In my situation I can get a retirement visa, how "CORRECT" is that for a full time employee? & It Is Difficult & Costly as well as clearly being Not the "right thing"

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[righand]

FIFO? Four in four out?

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[bangkoklasse]

If there isn't any visa that fits you. And you don't like to have the existing ones. Then you can't live here. You have to do like thousends of other people did before you. Come here on holidays until you turn 50

[stailmanki]

Thailand is lucky the OP is already married.

The oil, gas and mining guys that do not already have a spouse or family will not put up this this crap.

They will move to another country that appreciates their spending.

Perhaps that is the long term plan anyway, no need for the Junta to clear out the beer bars. Once the oil, gas and mining money moves on... Patong, Pattaya, Pat Pong and Soi Cowboy will be reduced to nothing more that a sea of "shop for rent" signs.

Crash in the condo market anyone?

I know a few F. I. F. O. guys who have changed their plans for R&R, & will not wait for more uncertainty or tolerate being treated like a criminal at the airport in Thailand. I'm willing to have a go at getting a visa. I've been quoted 30k Baht to fix a retirement visa here in Thailand, 20k to do in Australia,,,,,,,,,,, so first off I've been trying to prove I'm a tourist,( hotel bookings I didn't need etc for 30 day exemption ) and now I've got to retire & bring swags of money in to the country to satisfy the requirements. I have the time and the inclination organise a visa myself, I don't want to pay what these visa companies are asking. In my case if I do all the work it will only cost around 6000 Baht.

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Here in Chiang Mai an agent will run you up a retire visa for less than 8K - previosly, I did a multi retire visa in Australia for less than 300 AUD this included medical and police certificate, in my case my pension fund letter and substantiating bank statement fulfilled the financial requirements. There are certain frustrations to put up with in most countries including Australia. I think the Thais are smart to get a grip on visa situation. Still some of the quotes are definately worrying for folks in the limelight but a timely warning for the rest of 'us' to clarify our visas.

Thanks for your input here mate. I will persevere at Jomtien Immigration. I have most of the forms for a retirement visa, going to the Australian Embassy next week to get the Stat. Dec. letter showing my income (from work for a retirement visa!?) I have the rental agreement with documents showing rent paid, even got a bank account at the Bangkok Bank but it seems I don't need this now. I have suspicion that some of these visa companies are price gouging, taking advantage of the rush of guys like me trying to get the "Right" visa

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[chrisinth]

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Simple solution !!!

Get a single entry tourist visa before you come again

Needed a true genius to say something like that. Since you're so smart surely you can suggest, how a person that is kept the entire time on a platform 200 miles from shore can apply for a visa. Oh wait, sure they can take the time off their rest schedule!

In reality I think you're just uncomfortable with the fact that some people has a different lifestyle that your, and that there are laws and regulations that allows them not to waste money, time and passport pages on a Thai visa, unlike you that certainly have to.

Well said haha.

The real acid test is after the 12/13th.

I get the feeling if anything, we will each get a "warning" and allowed through.....after that if we don;t get a visa we might have problems

Wouldn't it be great if they could do an e-visa for tourists/frequent visitors? Great option for rotation workers

I mean the data they are going to amass with their stricter controls with their TM28's, TM30's, random overstay checks and immigration controls, for anyone in the system it should be a piece of p1ss for them to issue one.

I know, I know, visas are issued outside the country. In today's technological age, it really wouldn't be beyond the bounds of reason to link the embassies & consulates up to the network/databases.

Thinking out loud....................

[bertty]

if you don't contribute they don't want you here, sitting in a bar all day doesn't count, get a proper visa it ain't that difficult...

Sitting in a bar all day drinking (not something I do everyday) but arnt these people spending money and helping the economy grow ?

Why doesn't it count ? I've seen people spending thousands a day enjoying themselves. They spend far more than mum and dad sitting on the beach all day long.

Maybe you don't like to see people enjoying themselves ?

[stag4]

I have been FIFO (20/10 roster) Western Australia to BKK for the last two and a half years. Arrive Swampy this Sunday morning, will be interesting to see what they say as my passport is full of visa exempt stamps.

Will have with me, my return itinerary, copy of my work contract, travel insurance, electronic pay slips, Australian dollars and company flight bookings right through to the end of the year.

What visa do they expect me to apply for, I am over 50 but not retired, not married or there on business?

If I am denied entry, what happens then, detained and deported, allowed through to the airline desk to purchase a ticket or what?

Quite a number of guys here at work in the same situation.

[Franky Bear]

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Simple solution !!!

Get a single entry tourist visa before you come again

Needed a true genius to say something like that. Since you're so smart surely you can suggest, how a person that is kept the entire time on a platform 200 miles from shore can apply for a visa. Oh wait, sure they can take the time off their rest schedule!

In reality I think you're just uncomfortable with the fact that some people has a different lifestyle that your, and that there are laws and regulations that allows them not to waste money, time and passport pages on a Thai visa, unlike you that certainly have to.

Well said haha.

The real acid test is after the 12/13th.

I get the feeling if anything, we will each get a "warning" and allowed through.....after that if we don;t get a visa we might have problems

Wouldn't it be great if they could do an e-visa for tourists/frequent visitors? Great option for rotation workers

I mean the data they are going to amass with their stricter controls with their TM28's, TM30's, random overstay checks and immigration controls, for anyone in the system it should be a piece of p1ss for them to issue one.

I know, I know, visas are issued outside the country. In today's technological age, it really wouldn't be beyond the bounds of reason to link the embassies & consulates up to the network/databases.

Thinking out loud....................

It would make sense.

Maybe they will

[iancnx]

I have been advised to stay on a retirement visa even though I am married here. This was advise from a lawyer.

Tell me if there are other opinions on this

Retirement as at today's date 800,000 baht is OK. Tomorrow? How much who knows. For this reason I will not give up my 'supporting Thai wife' status anytime soon.

[LivinLOS]

I have been advised to stay on a retirement visa even though I am married here. This was advise from a lawyer.

Tell me if there are other opinions on this

Possibly because the marriage visa is more work than the retirement visa and requires you to go twice, once for the application and if its all in order its put under review for 30 days (or 60 is some cases) and thats hard to go to both when on rotation.

Retirement is issued on the spot.

[LivinLOS]

Simple solution !!!

Get a single entry tourist visa before you come again

Problem solved ?

These people fly from oil rig to airport to bangkok,,

Which oil rigs do you know with a Thai consulate on them ??