Media portrayals of rape 'often simplistic and inadequate'

[Lite Beer]

Media portrayals of rape 'often simplistic and inadequate'
Pravit Rojanaphruk
The Nation 
 

BANGKOK: -- The Thai media's portrayal of rape and sexual violence against women tends to be inadequate, simplistic and based on assumptions that do not address the complex root causes of such violations, a seminar in Bangkok was told yesterday.

Reports and explanations about rapes or sexual assault were usually predictable but insufficient or even misleading in saying that the problem related to evil or sexual maniacs that need to be punished severely. But most seldom touch on issues of unequal sexual relations, a sense of sexual entitlement among men and inadequacy of the justice system.

"Rapists are often depicted as a sex manic or drug addict. This is a stereotype," said Varaporn Chamsanit, programme manager at the Women's Wellbeing and Gender Justice Programme at the Sexuality Studies Association, which organised the seminar.

Varaporn said a survey of 10,000 foreign men revealed that as many as 71 per cent feel sexually entitled to violate women, and Thailand was no exception to this.

"It's about power relations that are unequal and the urge to exercise power."

Varaporn said a few companies monopolised production of Thai soap operas and these tended to be conservative and sympathetic to rapists or even romanticised rape and sexual violations on television.

'Real reasons are multi-dimensional'

Chalidaporn Songsamphan, a prominent feminist at Thammasat University, said the media dwelt on the same simplistic plot repeatedly while the reality about why sexual violations occur was multi-dimensional.

Chalidaporn said the media often had a preconceived assumption that rape must occur in secluded areas while in reality that is not always the case. The media also tended to repeat the perception that rape was about an evil individual that need to be harshly punished, thus putting the wrong emphasis on individual offenders alone and giving the wrong impression that if only these people could be dealt with then society would be ok.

Kritaya Archavanitkul, a leading feminist and an associate professor at Mahidol University's Institute for Population and Social Research, said a culture of silence keeps many cases from being reported by victims, and this was often not noted. "We must address this culture of silence," she said.

Kritiya said sexual assault was the most serious problem facing women in Thailand. Victims ranged in age from one year old while the oldest was 105, she said, adding that the longest continuous sexual violation in Thailand lasted for 17 years.

Some 32 per cent of rape victims who were killed were minors, said Kritiya, adding that sexual assault cases were still considered as low priority in the justice system.

If rapists are not armed with a gun or grenade, victims could only press a charge within the first three months of the event, she said.

"The justice system makes it like they're being raped for the second time round," said Naiyana Suphaphueng, another leading feminist and lawyer.

"I want to see a clear stance from the media that won't just sell news. It's not enough. They must play a role in becoming a mechanism to protect women. They must not repeat [sexual violations]. It's not fair to women," said Suchada Thaweesit, president of the Sexuality Studies Association.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Media-portrayals-of-rape-often-simplistic-and-inad-30240058.html

 

[thenation]2014-08-02[/thenation]

[apetley]

Media portrayals of rape 'often simplistic and inadequate'
Pravit Rojanaphruk
The Nation 
 
BANGKOK: -- The Thai media's portrayal of rape and sexual violence against women tends to be inadequate, simplistic and based on assumptions that do not address the complex root causes of such violations, a seminar in Bangkok was told yesterday.

Reports and explanations about rapes or sexual assault were usually predictable but insufficient or even misleading in saying that the problem related to evil or sexual maniacs that need to be punished severely. But most seldom touch on issues of unequal sexual relations, a sense of sexual entitlement among men and inadequacy of the justice system.

"Rapists are often depicted as a sex manic or drug addict. This is a stereotype," said Varaporn Chamsanit, programme manager at the Women's Wellbeing and Gender Justice Programme at the Sexuality Studies Association, which organised the seminar.

Varaporn said a survey of 10,000 foreign men revealed that as many as 71 per cent feel sexually entitled to violate women, and Thailand was no exception to this.

"It's about power relations that are unequal and the urge to exercise power."

Varaporn said a few companies monopolised production of Thai soap operas and these tended to be conservative and sympathetic to rapists or even romanticised rape and sexual violations on television.

'Real reasons are multi-dimensional'

Chalidaporn Songsamphan, a prominent feminist at Thammasat University, said the media dwelt on the same simplistic plot repeatedly while the reality about why sexual violations occur was multi-dimensional.

Chalidaporn said the media often had a preconceived assumption that rape must occur in secluded areas while in reality that is not always the case. The media also tended to repeat the perception that rape was about an evil individual that need to be harshly punished, thus putting the wrong emphasis on individual offenders alone and giving the wrong impression that if only these people could be dealt with then society would be ok.

Kritaya Archavanitkul, a leading feminist and an associate professor at Mahidol University's Institute for Population and Social Research, said a culture of silence keeps many cases from being reported by victims, and this was often not noted. "We must address this culture of silence," she said.

Kritiya said sexual assault was the most serious problem facing women in Thailand. Victims ranged in age from one year old while the oldest was 105, she said, adding that the longest continuous sexual violation in Thailand lasted for 17 years.

Some 32 per cent of rape victims who were killed were minors, said Kritiya, adding that sexual assault cases were still considered as low priority in the justice system.

If rapists are not armed with a gun or grenade, victims could only press a charge within the first three months of the event, she said.

"The justice system makes it like they're being raped for the second time round," said Naiyana Suphaphueng, another leading feminist and lawyer.

"I want to see a clear stance from the media that won't just sell news. It's not enough. They must play a role in becoming a mechanism to protect women. They must not repeat [sexual violations]. It's not fair to women," said Suchada Thaweesit, president of the Sexuality Studies Association.
 
Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Media-portrayals-of-rape-often-simplistic-and-inad-30240058.html
 
[thenation]2014-08-02[/thenation]

71% of foreign men feel sexually entitled to violate women? Really?
Any links please because that sounds an amazing statistic to me.

[WhizBang]

71% of foreign men feel sexually entitled to violate women? Really?
Any links please because that sounds an amazing statistic to me.

 

 

Agree, that is an absolutely rediculous figure.  Possibly true for some of certain origins, but then let's be specific, if that is the case.  So what is the figure for Thai men?  99%?

[Seastallion]

 

71% of foreign men feel sexually entitled to violate women? Really?
Any links please because that sounds an amazing statistic to me.

 

 

Agree, that is an absolutely rediculous figure.  Possibly true for some of certain origins, but then let's be specific, if that is the case.  So what is the figure for Thai men?  99%?

 

At a guess, I'd say the figure comes from foreign studies and thus equates to "foreign men".

At a guess, foreign studies of "violation of women" would include workplace sexual harassment and domestic sexual abuse including but not limited to marital rape.

At a guess, if those studies included countries such as Nigeria or Mexico, the figure of 71% would be conservative.

At a guess, I would say the figure is probably right.

[klauskunkel]

Varaporn said a survey of 10,000 foreign men revealed that as many as 71 per cent feel sexually entitled to violate women, and Thailand was no exception to this.
 

can you also reveal what cultures these foreign men call their own?

[razer]

I have never heard of a scientific survey targeting "foreign" men regardless of the country where the survey originated.  Homophobic vocabulary is unnecessary and unprofessional in news reports.

[FangFerang]

Again -- it's them darn foreigners -- heck, rape never happened in Thailand (at least, not before Thaksin).  Just ask them there Cambodian illegal emigrunts -- they wasn't raped and deported.  According to the law, they was never even here!  Case closed.

 

Up the law for all!

Edited August 2, 2014 by FangFerang

[USNret]

I have never heard of a scientific survey targeting "foreign" men regardless of the country where the survey originated.  Homophobic vocabulary is unnecessary and unprofessional in news reports.

 

Xenophobic, not homophobic, unless they were surveying gay men. 

[belg]

gun or grenade ? did they mean knife ?

 

if stupid thai soap operas romanticise RAPE, and most people that watch, take it in as real, than this is a clear sign that thais are mentally retarted

 

 

[h90]

 

 

71% of foreign men feel sexually entitled to violate women? Really?
Any links please because that sounds an amazing statistic to me.

 

 

Agree, that is an absolutely rediculous figure.  Possibly true for some of certain origins, but then let's be specific, if that is the case.  So what is the figure for Thai men?  99%?

 

At a guess, I'd say the figure comes from foreign studies and thus equates to "foreign men".

At a guess, foreign studies of "violation of women" would include workplace sexual harassment and domestic sexual abuse including but not limited to marital rape.

At a guess, if those studies included countries such as Nigeria or Mexico, the figure of 71% would be conservative.

At a guess, I would say the figure is probably right.

 

 

No even if it includes Nigeria and Mexico. Lets say the number there is 80 %. Than you add Europe, and you are again below 50 %.

Or the study is about rape ala Sweden (Rape is if she agrees to have sex and AFTERWARDS change her mind, see Assange)
 

[Baerboxer]

 

 

71% of foreign men feel sexually entitled to violate women? Really?
Any links please because that sounds an amazing statistic to me.

 

 

Agree, that is an absolutely rediculous figure.  Possibly true for some of certain origins, but then let's be specific, if that is the case.  So what is the figure for Thai men?  99%?

 

At a guess, I'd say the figure comes from foreign studies and thus equates to "foreign men".

At a guess, foreign studies of "violation of women" would include workplace sexual harassment and domestic sexual abuse including but not limited to marital rape.

At a guess, if those studies included countries such as Nigeria or Mexico, the figure of 71% would be conservative.

At a guess, I would say the figure is probably right.

 

 

That's a lot of guessing.

 

 

Guess the baht will go up or down against the dollar. Guess it might stay the same. 

 

 

Guess you might have guessed right or wrong.

 

Great this guessing game.

 

 

More like another misquoted statistic taken out of context as is so often the case, But without any details, I'm just guessing..................

[Thai at Heart]

gun or grenade ? did they mean knife ?
 
if stupid thai soap operas romanticise RAPE, and most people that watch, take it in as real, than this is a clear sign that thais are mentally retarted
 
 

The idea that bad girls are asking for it still exists today. Thailand can have all the laws under the sun, but tradition still wins the day.

[thailiketoo]

Varaporn holds a Ph.D. in Anthropology from the Australia National University. 

 

http://www.sac.or.th/databases/cultureandrights/people/dr-varaporn-chamsanit/

 

Varaporn said a survey of 10,000 foreign men revealed that as many as 71 per cent feel sexually entitled to violate women, and Thailand was no exception to this.

 

UN survey of 10,000 men in Asia and the Pacific reveals why some men use violence against women and girls

 

http://www.undp.org/content/undp/en/home/presscenter/pressreleases/2013/09/10/un-survey-of-10-000-men-in-asia-and-the-pacific-reveals-why-some-men-use-violence-against-women-and-girls-/

 

Across all sites, the most common motivation that men cited for rape was related to sexual entitlement - a belief that men have a right to sex with women regardless of consent. Over 80 percent of men who admitted to rape in sites in rural Bangladesh and China gave this response. 

 

Men were interviewed across nine sites in Bangladesh, Cambodia, China, Indonesia, Sri Lanka and Papua New Guinea. The study, entitled ‘Why Do Some Men Use Violence Against Women and How Can We Prevent It?

 

It took me 5 minutes to do the research that the reporter should have done before the story was published.  Perhaps some journalistic re education is in order. 

 

Edited August 2, 2014 by thailiketoo

[Tokay]

Ah yes... 71% of foreigners. Better crack down on their visas even more. Scumbag rapists.

[Thai at Heart]

I think the professors statements about 71% may lack a little context.

"Thai newspapers interpretation of academic research definitely simplistic".

[thailiketoo]

I think the professors statements about 71% may lack a little context.

"Thai newspapers interpretation of academic research definitely simplistic".

 

Of those men who had admitted to rape, the vast majority (72-97 percent in most sites) did not experience any legal consequences, confirming that impunity remains a serious issue in the region.

 

http://www.undp.org/content/undp/en/home/presscenter/pressreleases/2013/09/10/un-survey-of-10-000-men-in-asia-and-the-pacific-reveals-why-some-men-use-violence-against-women-and-girls-/

 

Edited August 2, 2014 by thailiketoo

[JacChang]

 

71% of foreign men feel sexually entitled to violate women? Really?
Any links please because that sounds an amazing statistic to me.

 

 

Agree, that is an absolutely rediculous figure.  Possibly true for some of certain origins, but then let's be specific, if that is the case.  So what is the figure for Thai men?  99%?

 

Well even there are no facts or statistics. I think it's true.

Men naturally are attracted to women, and even though they don't commit rape, they still naturally feel "sexually entitled to violate" women. While violate is a harsh word to use here, that is why most will feel and ask themselves. "Heck no, I'm a good guy, I wouldn't violate a woman" That is true too. That's where our human side counters our animal side, and makes us civil.

 

Put a supermodel with good figures in a room with a man. Ten rooms, twenty people. A month. That statistic may be true. Remember it's the "feel", not necessary committing the act of rape.

[thailiketoo]

 

 

 

71% of foreign men feel sexually entitled to violate women? Really?
Any links please because that sounds an amazing statistic to me.

 

 

Agree, that is an absolutely rediculous figure.  Possibly true for some of certain origins, but then let's be specific, if that is the case.  So what is the figure for Thai men?  99%?

 

At a guess, I'd say the figure comes from foreign studies and thus equates to "foreign men".

At a guess, foreign studies of "violation of women" would include workplace sexual harassment and domestic sexual abuse including but not limited to marital rape.

At a guess, if those studies included countries such as Nigeria or Mexico, the figure of 71% would be conservative.

At a guess, I would say the figure is probably right.

 

 

No even if it includes Nigeria and Mexico. Lets say the number there is 80 %. Than you add Europe, and you are again below 50 %.

Or the study is about rape ala Sweden (Rape is if she agrees to have sex and AFTERWARDS change her mind, see Assange)
 

 

 

Half of all women in Canada have experienced at least one incident of physical or sexual violence since the age of 16.

67% of all Canadians say they personally know at least one woman who has been sexually or physically assaulted.

 

Each year, over 40,000 arrests result from domestic violence—that’s about 12% of all violent crime in Canada.

 

In a 2009 Canadian national survey, women reported 460,000 incidents of sexual assault in just one year.

 

http://www.canadianwomen.org/facts-about-violence
 

[h90]

Ah yes... 71% of foreigners. Better crack down on their visas even more. Scumbag rapists.

 

yes before the foreigner came, there was no rape in Thailand....it is only the bad influence of the farangs.....

[thailiketoo]

Almost a quarter of men 'admit to rape in parts of Asia' -- BBC
A quarter of men say they have raped their wife or girlfriend in survey of six Asian countries -- National Post/AP
UN survey reveals Asia-Pacific rape crisis -- FOX News/AFP
One in Four Asian Men Confess to Rape: UN Study -- Voice of America
Nearly a quarter of men in some Asian countries admit to rape, study finds -- The Telegraph
UN report finds widespread sexual assault in Asia-Pacific region -- Deutsche Welle
One in Four Men Surveyed in Asian Study Say They Raped -- Bloomberg Businessweek
In Some Asia-Pacific Nations, 1 in 10 Men Have Committed Rape -- Time
1 in 4 men in parts of Asia admit to rape, says UN study -- Al Jazeera
UN Survey of 10,000 Men in Asia and the Pacific Reveals Why Some Men Use Violence Against Women and Girls -- Digital Journal
A Quarter of Men in 6 Asia-Pacific Countries Admit to Rape:

 

I would imagine the above was the survey the OP was talking about.  Bad choice of words, "foreigner"; it should have read Asian not foreign. 

Edited August 2, 2014 by thailiketoo

[Krataiboy]

The salacious and voyeuristic treatment of rape and sexual assault cases by the Thai media is merely a symptom, not the cause, of the sickness at the core of Thai society. Newspapers and television are merely holding up a mirror to a society which is inherently paternalistic, ludicrously macho and prehistorically misogynistic. 

 

It's been that way for centuries, going way back to the Kingdom's early rulers who set the trend by having harems full of concubines in their palaces. Wealthy men from the big cities customarily bought virgins from poor villagers - the origin of the practice of paying a dowry to the parents of a girl getting married.

 

Even the brand of Buddhism adopted in Thailand here discriminates against women. They cannot be ordained as monks and a number of particularly sacred Buddhist sites display "No Women Allowed" signs. Until fairly recently, as a mark of respect, Thai woman were expected to sleep at least a head lower down in the bed than her husbands.

 

Thai boys are raised to manhood in homes where their father is probably a habitual philanderer (a survey by Durex showed Thai men were the world's least faithful partners) and wife beater. Such behavior is not only tolerated, but accepted as the norm. They are taught at state schools where, on special days such as Mothers' Day, girl pupils are plastered with makeup, dolled up in sexy outfits and encouraged to dance and mimic the antics of their older sisters in the countless sing-a-song bars across the land. Girls, as well as boys, are routinely beaten by their male teachers, despite corporal punishment being against the law..

 

The majority of Thai men are initiated into the pleasures of sex at around the age of 15 by being taken to one of the numerous brothels which operate freely, despite the fact that prostitution is unlawful, in towns and cities throughout the Kingdom. The will continue to have active sex lives, but expect any girl they eventually marry to be a virgin.

 

In essence, the plight of women in Thailand is not so very different from that which existed among working class women in the UK, where I grew up, in Victorian and Edwardian times. In other words, while Thailand has enjoyed a great leap forward economically and materialistically, is culturally about a century behind the times.

 

The nascent feminist movement in Thailand is making some progress in changing entrenched attitudes (Thailand, after all, can claim to have had its first prime minister!). But millions of ordinary Thai women and girls need to be converted if the women's liberation movement is to transform Thai society as it did those of the U.S., Britain and Europe in the Sixties and Seventies.

 

Some indication of the nature of the challenge ahead can be gauged from surveys conducted among viewers of television soap operas, where women are typically treated as little more than sex objects to be beaten, abused and raped by their boyfriends or husbands. Women, it turns out, are just as hooked on them as men.

[thailiketoo]

...........

 Wealthy men from the big cities customarily bought virgins from poor villagers - the origin of the practice of paying a dowry to the parents of a girl getting married.

 

..........

 

 

dow·ry

ˈ

property or money brought by a bride to her husband on their marriage.

 

I think the term you want is bride wealth. 

 

A payment in the form of money, property, or other valuable asset that is made by or on behalf of a prospective husband to the bride's family in certain cultures. 

 

The origin of paying a dowry would be quite different than the origin of Bride Wealth. 

   

 

Edited August 2, 2014 by thailiketoo

[Thai at Heart]

I think the professors statements about 71% may lack a little context.

"Thai newspapers interpretation of academic research definitely simplistic".

 
Of those men who had admitted to rape, the vast majority (72-97 percent in most sites) did not experience any legal consequences, confirming that impunity remains a serious issue in the region.
 
http://www.undp.org/content/undp/en/home/presscenter/pressreleases/2013/09/10/un-survey-of-10-000-men-in-asia-and-the-pacific-reveals-why-some-men-use-violence-against-women-and-girls-/
 

The very important bit missing being " admitted to rape".

Varaporn said a survey of 10,000 foreign men (WHO ADMITTED RAPE)revealed that as many as 71 per cent feel sexually entitled to violate women, and Thailand was no exception to this.

[thailiketoo]

 

 

I think the professors statements about 71% may lack a little context.

"Thai newspapers interpretation of academic research definitely simplistic".

 
Of those men who had admitted to rape, the vast majority (72-97 percent in most sites) did not experience any legal consequences, confirming that impunity remains a serious issue in the region.
 
http://www.undp.org/content/undp/en/home/presscenter/pressreleases/2013/09/10/un-survey-of-10-000-men-in-asia-and-the-pacific-reveals-why-some-men-use-violence-against-women-and-girls-/
 

The very important bit missing being " admitted to rape".

Varaporn said a survey of 10,000 foreign men (WHO ADMITTED RAPE)revealed that as many as 71 per cent feel sexually entitled to violate women, and Thailand was no exception to this.

 

 

She didn't say that you added it.  Why did you add it? 
 

[h90]

 

 

 

 

 

Agree, that is an absolutely rediculous figure.  Possibly true for some of certain origins, but then let's be specific, if that is the case.  So what is the figure for Thai men?  99%?

 

At a guess, I'd say the figure comes from foreign studies and thus equates to "foreign men".

At a guess, foreign studies of "violation of women" would include workplace sexual harassment and domestic sexual abuse including but not limited to marital rape.

At a guess, if those studies included countries such as Nigeria or Mexico, the figure of 71% would be conservative.

At a guess, I would say the figure is probably right.

 

 

No even if it includes Nigeria and Mexico. Lets say the number there is 80 %. Than you add Europe, and you are again below 50 %.

Or the study is about rape ala Sweden (Rape is if she agrees to have sex and AFTERWARDS change her mind, see Assange)
 

 

 

Half of all women in Canada have experienced at least one incident of physical or sexual violence since the age of 16.

67% of all Canadians say they personally know at least one woman who has been sexually or physically assaulted.

 

Each year, over 40,000 arrests result from domestic violence—that’s about 12% of all violent crime in Canada.

 

In a 2009 Canadian national survey, women reported 460,000 incidents of sexual assault in just one year.

 

http://www.canadianwomen.org/facts-about-violence
 

 

 

what does incident of physical or sexual violence mean?

physical violence? In an argument the mother slap the 17 year old daughter?

sexual violence? Is that attempted rape, or a drunk in the bar try to kiss or touch until he get an ear full?

 

If half experience something serious why only 67% of all Canadians know someone? do 33% life alone in a cave. If 50 % of the women experience something like that I assume 100 % of all people know someone.

 

So it seems the numbers are very contradicting.....But I am not saying it isn't true. Just would like to know the exact definitions.

[Thai at Heart]

 

 

I think the professors statements about 71% may lack a little context.

"Thai newspapers interpretation of academic research definitely simplistic".

 
Of those men who had admitted to rape, the vast majority (72-97 percent in most sites) did not experience any legal consequences, confirming that impunity remains a serious issue in the region.
 
http://www.undp.org/content/undp/en/home/presscenter/pressreleases/2013/09/10/un-survey-of-10-000-men-in-asia-and-the-pacific-reveals-why-some-men-use-violence-against-women-and-girls-/
 

The very important bit missing being " admitted to rape".

Varaporn said a survey of 10,000 foreign men (WHO ADMITTED RAPE)revealed that as many as 71 per cent feel sexually entitled to violate women, and Thailand was no exception to this.
 

 
She didn't say that you added it.  Why did you add it? 
 

Actually what the study says is.

Nearly a quarter is of men admitted to rape. In terms of feeling entitled to rape, over 80% of men in rural China and Bangladesh said they felt entitled.

So, what is quoted in this report from the paper probably doesn't reflect what the good doctor said at all

[Mudcrab]

Don't get too excited by all of this - especially the statistics that various posters have  quoted.

 

Bear in mind all of the ladies quoted are full on feminists - you know the sort of people who spout nonsense such as all men a potential rapists.

 

Maybe they are....but they're also potential great husbands and fathers, possibly great potential golfers and fishermen as well as many other things potentially.

 

It makes as much sense to say all women are potential murderers - but not too many actually commit the crime.

 

I don't want to deny any bad stuff happens - we all know it does - but how many people posting here actually know a rapist?

 

Judging by the statistics quoted we should all know at least 2 or 3 or many multiples of these numbers.

 

The dubious links in some posts between rape and domestic violence is just plain hogwash.

 

Domestic violence can be extreme, admittedly, and some people, both men and women have lost their lives due to it , but it can also be s simple a few angry words said in the heat of the moment which then leads to the domestic violence charge (sometimes a little too conveniently) without any violence as such actually occurring.

 

Note: I am posting in the context of the western culture. I believe the Muslim culture takes a very different view on the female of our species and any rights they might, or might not, have.

[kimamey]

 

 

 

71% of foreign men feel sexually entitled to violate women? Really?
Any links please because that sounds an amazing statistic to me.

 

 

Agree, that is an absolutely rediculous figure.  Possibly true for some of certain origins, but then let's be specific, if that is the case.  So what is the figure for Thai men?  99%?

 

At a guess, I'd say the figure comes from foreign studies and thus equates to "foreign men".

At a guess, foreign studies of "violation of women" would include workplace sexual harassment and domestic sexual abuse including but not limited to marital rape.

At a guess, if those studies included countries such as Nigeria or Mexico, the figure of 71% would be conservative.

At a guess, I would say the figure is probably right.

 

 

No even if it includes Nigeria and Mexico. Lets say the number there is 80 %. Than you add Europe, and you are again below 50 %.

Or the study is about rape ala Sweden (Rape is if she agrees to have sex and AFTERWARDS change her mind, see Assange)
 

 

 

I think the study regfered to men's attitudes towards women not the number of rapes. Rape statistics are very difficult as it depends on the country you are talking about. Sweeden has one of the highest numbers of rapes per capita in the Europe but you need to look closer than that. In Sweeden women are more likely to report rape and rape can happen even in a marital relationship. They also count each occurance of rape so if a woman is raped once a week for 2 years by her husband before she get's the courage to report him then that's 104 cases of rape betewwen one man and one woman.

 

This figure is about men's feeling of entitlement.

 

Varaporn said a survey of 10,000 foreign men revealed that as many as 71 per cent feel sexually entitled to violate women, and Thailand was no exception to this.

 

It does help if you can read English before posting.

 

As for the figures it does indeed depend on the meaning of 'foreign' men.

 

Assange has been accused of 'sexual assault' not 'rape'.

[thailiketoo]

 

No even if it includes Nigeria and Mexico. Lets say the number there is 80 %. Than you add Europe, and you are again below 50 %.

Or the study is about rape ala Sweden (Rape is if she agrees to have sex and AFTERWARDS change her mind, see Assange)
 

 

 

In Sweden, 81 percent of women said they had been harassed at some point after the age of 15 - compared to the EU average of 55 percent. After Sweden, which had the highest rate, Denmark, France, the Netherland and Finland all saw rates above 70 percent.

 

http://www.thelocal.se/20140305/sweden-out-top-in-eu-domestic-violence-league
 

[h90]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Agree, that is an absolutely rediculous figure.  Possibly true for some of certain origins, but then let's be specific, if that is the case.  So what is the figure for Thai men?  99%?

 

At a guess, I'd say the figure comes from foreign studies and thus equates to "foreign men".

At a guess, foreign studies of "violation of women" would include workplace sexual harassment and domestic sexual abuse including but not limited to marital rape.

At a guess, if those studies included countries such as Nigeria or Mexico, the figure of 71% would be conservative.

At a guess, I would say the figure is probably right.

 

 

No even if it includes Nigeria and Mexico. Lets say the number there is 80 %. Than you add Europe, and you are again below 50 %.

Or the study is about rape ala Sweden (Rape is if she agrees to have sex and AFTERWARDS change her mind, see Assange)
 

 

 

I think the study regfered to men's attitudes towards women not the number of rapes. Rape statistics are very difficult as it depends on the country you are talking about. Sweeden has one of the highest numbers of rapes per capita in the Europe but you need to look closer than that. In Sweeden women are more likely to report rape and rape can happen even in a marital relationship. They also count each occurance of rape so if a woman is raped once a week for 2 years by her husband before she get's the courage to report him then that's 104 cases of rape betewwen one man and one woman.

 

This figure is about men's feeling of entitlement.

 

Varaporn said a survey of 10,000 foreign men revealed that as many as 71 per cent feel sexually entitled to violate women, and Thailand was no exception to this.

 

It does help if you can read English before posting.

 

As for the figures it does indeed depend on the meaning of 'foreign' men.

 

Assange has been accused of 'sexual assault' not 'rape'.

 

 

Sorry in German media the Assange case is always described as rape. When you google in English you also find tons of article that he is accused of rape and sexual assault. But in fact in the rest of the world it wouldn't be anything.

I would like to know the exact question that brought 71 percent would violate women. I would think in an survey the worst rapist would say that he would never do anything. So I guess the 71 percent come from some very strange question.

 

I neither know women nor men who had any problems or caused any.....but maybe I am only lucky with the people I know.