Seeking a drawing artist to draw me a bamboo structure

[marinpa]

Hello,

I am looking for a drawing artist, that can work with me to design and render a technical drawing of a bamboo sala structure, so I can determine how much building material (bamboo) is needed and show the builder exactly what I am after.

Thank you anticipated for your time and effort.

[beachproperty]

I believe they call them architects???

[beachproperty]

Early post ....just a little sarcasm!

Personally you might want to reconsider .....Bamboo not the best material for a long lasting structure. Pictured belong is a copy of a Sala I purchased premade for 30,000 baht.

[thaibeachlovers]

Have you considered making it yourself?

Easy to knock up, unless you have zero skills.

[Soutpeel]

I believe they call them architects???

I beleive the OP is being very careful specifiying a "drawing artist" on TV, as one suspects TV is full of piss artists....

[Soutpeel]

Have you considered making it yourself?

Easy to knock up, unless you have zero skills.

well there you go then, do your civic duty, it's easy you knock it for him then..

[giddyup]

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Have you considered making it yourself?

Easy to knock up, unless you have zero skills.

I don't think building something like the one pictured above is for a novice. By the time you've spent a week hunting around for the right timber, roofing etc and kitted yourself out with all the necessary tools, it would be far cheaper to spend 30,000 baht and buy a ready-made one.

[welsh1]

The bamboo made ones are very long lasting, and only a fraction of the price about 4000-6000 baht.

you will have to replace the straw roof every 2 years, this is a far cheaper option

[marinpa]

The bamboo made ones are very long lasting, and only a fraction of the price about 4000-6000 baht.

you will have to replace the straw roof every 2 years, this is a far cheaper option

This is correct!! I was quoted between 4-6000 bath, depending on the design and required floor size.

That is the reason I need a technical drawing, to show the builder the exact design and measurements, so that I can get an accurate estimate of the required material and building cost. I need 10 of those structures.

With an accurate technical design a builder can tell me exactly the number of pieces, lengths and diameters of the required bamboo for one structure.

[beachproperty]

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Have you considered making it yourself?

Easy to knock up, unless you have zero skills.

I don't think building something like the one pictured above is for a novice. By the time you've spent a week hunting around for the right timber, roofing etc and kitted yourself out with all the necessary tools, it would be far cheaper to spend 30,000 baht and buy a ready-made one.

And therein lies the answer as to why I bought one for 30,000 baht.....!!!!!!!...much cheaper to buy pre built ...no hassle.....delivered and placed in spot choosen for amount paid. If maintained (as it is made out of #1 thailand wood) should last a least 20 years....bamboo hut....replace roof every 2 years....and 5 years later, replace the whole thing. ....You tell me ....which is cheaper over the long term????

[rgs2001uk]

The bamboo made ones are very long lasting, and only a fraction of the price about 4000-6000 baht.

you will have to replace the straw roof every 2 years, this is a far cheaper option

Wait until the termites (pluak in Thai) get to it.

You do spray every six months or so dont you?

[marinpa]

I know this guy that has a number of those structures, by the beach, for more than 5 years, never changed anything, never fixed anything inside or out. The only maintenance he is doing is waxing the floor every 3-4 months due to the sand people being on their feed when they come in.

I want pretty much the same thing only a slightly different design ( more of a hexagonal shape)

He paid for this 1500 bath for labour and another 3000 for the materials. Took the two guys half day to build it

[rgs2001uk]

I know this guy that has a number of those structures, by the beach, for more than 5 years, never changed anything, never fixed anything inside or out. The only maintenance he is doing is waxing the floor every 3-4 months due to the sand people being on their feed when they come in. ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1409149585.766871.jpg

I want pretty much the same thing only a slightly different design ( more of a hexagonal shape)

He paid for this 1500 bath for labour and another 3000 for the materials. Took the two guys half day to build it

What kind of wood is that?

4,500 baht I find very hard to believe.

Where is this?

What material is the roof?

[beachproperty]

I know this guy that has a number of those structures, by the beach, for more than 5 years, never changed anything, never fixed anything inside or out. The only maintenance he is doing is waxing the floor every 3-4 months due to the sand people being on their feed when they come in. ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1409149585.766871.jpg

I want pretty much the same thing only a slightly different design ( more of a hexagonal shape)

He paid for this 1500 bath for labour and another 3000 for the materials. Took the two guys half day to build it

Marinpa ....I'm confused ....you ask for advice ....but seem to be sold on the structure as pictured above in your post for 4500 baht (Hey great price if you think thats for real).

With such a price and structure ...why bother to post????? You've got your answer....unless??????

[marinpa]

All bamboo except the ropes they tied up the bamboo beams together. Roof is made out of bamboo leaves

[marinpa]

Beachproperty, obviously reading is not your strongest asset.....

The post is not to outsource, not to find out the price but to find someone that can do a technical drawing for me. What so hard to understand here???

Stop being so arrogant and patronizing and read my initial post.

Friends???

[beachproperty]

All bamboo except the ropes they tied up the bamboo beams togetherImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1409150915.034862.jpg. Roof is made out of bamboo leavesImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1409150763.972613.jpgImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1409150801.331979.jpg

Basicly ....in the end....its an economic decision.......IMO

you think you can build your bamboo design for 4500 baht a unit...Fantastic!!! Go for it!

If your price point starts to go up....time to think of these pre-built units (and if you buy in bulk ...(ie more than one) ...maybe you can get a discount?

Just a thought

[beachproperty]

Beachproperty, obviously reading is not your strongest asset.....

The post is not to outsource, not to find out the price but to find someone that can do a technical drawing for me. What so hard to understand here???

Stop being so arrogant and patronizing and read my initial post.

Friends???

Not trying to be arrogant or patronizing....Sorry if I have come across that way....Just trying to HELP (ie ...save you money over the life of the build).

Again ...Its just the way I think ....

As for a "drawing"/....guess my first post nailed it.....Their called an "architect".

Good luck whatever you decide to do.....was just trying to give you an alternative! (pre built?)

[marinpa]

Your proposed model was 30k.

I said I need 10 of them. That would be 300k. Not a big difference, just a "0" ....lol!!!

Whereas with 30k I can have 10 structures, after the volume discount

[rgs2001uk]

Beachproperty, obviously reading is not your strongest asset.....

The post is not to outsource, not to find out the price but to find someone that can do a technical drawing for me. What so hard to understand here???

Stop being so arrogant and patronizing and read my initial post.

Friends???

Un effin believable, why the e f f would you need someone to do a technical drawing.

These things are ten a penny all over Thailand.

Give yer man a photo and ask him how much?

In Thai, aow baep nee tao rai krap?

Where will this be built, is it for hippy backpackers, will foundations need to be built?

Have you obtained planning permission from the locat Or Bor Tor?

[beachproperty]

Your proposed model was 30k.

I said I need 10 of them. That would be 300k. Not a big difference, just a "0" ....lol!!!

Whereas with 30k I can have 10 structures, after the volume discount

Gotta agree with rgs2001Uk.......No need for someone to draw for you..(just another wasted expense!)

Check out Google images....download it...Whoo...show it to your craftsman who can make 10 sala's for 30,000 baht..

Hey...money ahead ...looks like "it was built for cheap" versus pay a little more ....get something classy and it lasts.

AND by the way ....your bamboo sala does not include a table or benches in the sala ....(price of the pre made goes down without the ametnities...maybe 15000 baht or 20,000 ....worth a look..AND lasts a LOT longer...and looks classier.......IMO)

Edited August 27, 2014 by beachproperty

[marinpa]

I need the effin drawing for more than one e f f reasons.

One of them is already in the previous effin posts, namely the desired hexagonal design, as oppose to the presented one, which is rectangular.

By having a detailed drawing, the bamboo wholesaler is able to determine exactly the number of bamboo beams, diameter, length, colour, etc.

Are those ( for now)enough &lt;deleted&gt; reasons? There are few more...

As for the permit there is no need as the structures are going to be erected on a private property and used by "Only by invitation" members

[rgs2001uk]

I need the effin drawing for more than one e f f reasons.

One of them is already in the previous effin posts, namely the desired hexagonal design, as oppose to the presented one, which is rectangular.

By having a detailed drawing, the bamboo wholesaler is able to determine exactly the number of bamboo beams, diameter, length, colour, etc.

Are those ( for now)enough <deleted> reasons? There are few more...

As for the permit there is no need as the structures are going to be erected on a private property and used by "Only by invitation" members

Great stuff, welcome to Thailand.

Go for it sounds as if you have it all sussed out, no need to come here and vent your spleen.

As for permit, you know e f f all about Thailand, I pray to my buddha you are about to erect this next door to me.

Cant wait for the local or Bor Tor to show up and ask for your planning permission, best of luck, clueless.

Hope you have plenty of brown envelopes handy to make under the table payments to the locals.

[marinpa]

Hey bud,

No, for the purpose I need them, those salas do not require nothing more, not even mattresses. They are not going to be used for massage but they are going to be used for a DoJo, hence the hexagonal shape and bigger floor space

[marinpa]

I need the effin drawing for more than one e f f reasons.

One of them is already in the previous effin posts, namely the desired hexagonal design, as oppose to the presented one, which is rectangular.

By having a detailed drawing, the bamboo wholesaler is able to determine exactly the number of bamboo beams, diameter, length, colour, etc.

Are those ( for now)enough reasons? There are few more...

As for the permit there is no need as the structures are going to be erected on a private property and used by "Only by invitation" members

Great stuff, welcome to Thailand.

Go for it sounds as if you have it all sussed out, no need to come here and vent your spleen.

As for permit, you know e f f all about Thailand, I pray to my buddha you are about to erect this next door to me.

Cant wait for the local or Bor Tor to show up and ask for your planning permission, best of luck, clueless.

Hope you have plenty of brown envelopes handy to make under the table payments to the locals.

Your venomous post is not even worth my time and effort to answer.

Grow the ff up my friend!!!

[rgs2001uk]

I need the effin drawing for more than one e f f reasons.

One of them is already in the previous effin posts, namely the desired hexagonal design, as oppose to the presented one, which is rectangular.

By having a detailed drawing, the bamboo wholesaler is able to determine exactly the number of bamboo beams, diameter, length, colour, etc.

Are those ( for now)enough reasons? There are few more...

As for the permit there is no need as the structures are going to be erected on a private property and used by "Only by invitation" members

Great stuff, welcome to Thailand.

Go for it sounds as if you have it all sussed out, no need to come here and vent your spleen.

As for permit, you know e f f all about Thailand, I pray to my buddha you are about to erect this next door to me.

Cant wait for the local or Bor Tor to show up and ask for your planning permission, best of luck, clueless.

Hope you have plenty of brown envelopes handy to make under the table payments to the locals.

Your venomous post is not even worth my time and effort to answer.

Grow the ff up my friend!!!

As per your previous post, used for a dojo.

You are formally registered as a business are you?

You do have the appropriate work permit do you?

Please come to Bkk and open up your un registered business and make sure to have your WP at hand.

As has already been mentioned, go to google images, download documents, go tou your local land office and have them draw up the plans, they are the ones who will eventually give the building permission.

But you know all this already dont you, guess you have lived here longer than we have.

Best of luck to you, with an attitude like yours you sure will need it.

[marinpa]

I need the effin drawing for more than one e f f reasons.

One of them is already in the previous effin posts, namely the desired hexagonal design, as oppose to the presented one, which is rectangular.

By having a detailed drawing, the bamboo wholesaler is able to determine exactly the number of bamboo beams, diameter, length, colour, etc.

Are those ( for now)enough reasons? There are few more...

As for the permit there is no need as the structures are going to be erected on a private property and used by "Only by invitation" members

Great stuff, welcome to Thailand.

Go for it sounds as if you have it all sussed out, no need to come here and vent your spleen.

As for permit, you know e f f all about Thailand, I pray to my buddha you are about to erect this next door to me.

Cant wait for the local or Bor Tor to show up and ask for your planning permission, best of luck, clueless.

Hope you have plenty of brown envelopes handy to make under the table payments to the locals.

Your venomous post is not even worth my time and effort to answer.

Grow the ff up my friend!!!

As per your previous post, used for a dojo.

You are formally registered as a business are you?

You do have the appropriate work permit do you?

Please come to Bkk and open up your un registered business and make sure to have your WP at hand.

As has already been mentioned, go to google images, download documents, go tou your local land office and have them draw up the plans, they are the ones who will eventually give the building permission.

But you know all this already dont you, guess you have lived here longer than we have.

Best of luck to you, with an attitude like yours you sure will need it.

My dear friend,

If I would ever need a legal advice, first I would go to my lawyer, or the Royal Thai Chamber of Commerce, or ICC, or the Royal Thai Board of Investment, etc. Then, if the needed information is still unavailable, no doubt I would post my question on Thai Visa forum in the hope I'll find my answer.

As you are probably aware, at the present time the Royal Thai Government offers real investors a truly comprehensive assistance in dealing with multiple governmental agencies such as completing applications for various official licenses/permits.

FYOI, my company is a registered company, with corporate seal, with tax, social security and insurance registration as well as individual Thai Police clearance certificate for all my trainers.

Our company operates under the guidelines, rules and regulations of Department of Business Development, Board of Investment and The Ministry of Interior of the Kingdom of Thailand.

Now that I hope I satisfied your curiosity, do you care to explain your statement about them brown envelopes:

"Hope you have plenty of brown envelopes handy to make under the table payments to the locals."

What is that you are trying to say???

[Benjie]

I don't see how you are going to be able to build that sort of Bamboo structure for 3,000 Baht in materials. does that include bamboo blinds, paint, string, concrete, roof etc..?

If you have someone who is able to build this for 1.500 baht (in one day of labour???) then surely you can just sit and sketch it out with them?

Wouldn't need a building permit though.

[beachproperty]

As for the permit there is no need as the structures are going to be erected on a private property and used by "Only by invitation" members

Curious statement.....I'm presently building a boutique resort on "private property".....so, according to your statement, if it was to be used by "Only by invitation" members I would not have needed a permit?????????

Sounds like you not only need an "architect" for you drawings ....but maybe need to consutt with an "Attorney" as to the legality of such improvements!

Edited August 27, 2014 by beachproperty

[marinpa]

As for the permit there is no need as the structures are going to be erected on a private property and used by "Only by invitation" members

Curious statement.....I'm presently building a boutique resort on "private property".....so, according to your statement, if it was to be used by "Only by invitation" members I would not have needed a permit?????????

Sounds like you not only need an "architect" for you drawings ....but maybe need to consutt with an "Attorney" as to the legality of such improvements!

Some of the people around here have a real "talent" on providing unsolicited advice and irrelevant information in rapport to the OP's initially posed question.

My "beachproperty" friend, in my original post/inquiry, I never mentioned anything about business, property, company, money making or anything that would prompt you to advise me on talking to my lawyer.

I was simply asking for a skilled person on technical drawing. Nothing more, nothing less.

You have no idea what those salas are going to be used for, and honestly I have no intention on telling you either, we are friends but you are not that close of a friend in order to divulge my life plans.

Are you a drawing artist? Do you know one? If yes, let me know, if not...... For ever hold the peace.... (not to say shut your pie hole)

As for the building permits for a sala, according to the Building Control Act and the Town and City Planning Act, as long as a structure erected on a private property is not permanent, and providing is not used for commercial purposes, is not fitted with fans, lighting, speakers, electrical sockets, solar power, etc is considered a temporary structure, much more as a tool shed or carport, thus there in no need for permit.