thai20144 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 My so called Thai language school called me and told me i need to leave Thailand to apply for the second year ED visa which i understand, but also the guy told me i had to take a new test in Thai (written and convertsation) because he says his school is register with the Thai Government or something. Is he just telling lies as this school has many students that dont go to class? Are they only covering their own backs by telling me now i have to do a exam to extend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 That should be a test a the Ministry of Education. Not difficult to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soutpeel Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 if they do require a test, dont you think this makes perfect sense, seeing as one has been issued the ed visa to study Thai ? Why so suprised about a "Thai language test" you are suppose to be studying Thai.. . 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soutpeel Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 That should be a test a the Ministry of Education. Not difficult to pass. if you have actually been turning up for class and actually studying Thai, that is... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai20144 Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 if they do require a test, dont you think this makes perfect sense, seeing as one has been issued the ed visa to study Thai ? Why so suprised about a "Thai language test" you are suppose to be studying Thai.. . I am not surprized but TiT and when i started the course it was clear that most of the students dont even attend class and i ask them so if i miss class whats happens, they replied that as long as they know where the student is in Thailand it was ok. Wink Wink. The school was more about getting people on visa etc. But now that has changed with the crackdown and all of a sudden their a "Real School" using their words. All i want to know is this Test really required for everyone like they say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 It is real, other people are doing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai20144 Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 Anyone here taken the exam yet? Would 3 months of studing Thai be enough to past it? If you attend the 4 hr class a week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 if they do require a test, dont you think this makes perfect sense, seeing as one has been issued the ed visa to study Thai ? Why so suprised about a "Thai language test" you are suppose to be studying Thai.. . I am not surprized but TiT and when i started the course it was clear that most of the students dont even attend class and i ask them so if i miss class whats happens, they replied that as long as they know where the student is in Thailand it was ok. Wink Wink. The school was more about getting people on visa etc. But now that has changed with the crackdown and all of a sudden their a "Real School" using their words. All i want to know is this Test really required for everyone like they say? Love to know the school.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebonykap Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I've done it and it's quite easy PROVIDING you attended all or most classes, as I did. My school even prepped me with their own internal exam prior to MOE test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I've done it and it's quite easy PROVIDING you attended all or most classes, as I did. My school even prepped me with their own internal exam prior to MOE test. Where did you go, did it cost anything? There are no details posted yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai20144 Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 I've done it and it's quite easy PROVIDING you attended all or most classes, as I did. My school even prepped me with their own internal exam prior to MOE test. Good on you! Well done but if you only studied for 3 months @ 4 hrs a week would you have past it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 By the way, you will be able to extend for 90 days only at time - Bt 1,900, not one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai20144 Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 By the way, you will be able to extend for 90 days only at time - Bt 1,900, not one year. So I started the course last december and i will extend the ED visa for the last 90 days of the one year visa. I only have to do the test if i want to apply for the a second year visa, i dont have to do the Test to extend the last 90 days on my first year visa right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bigt116 Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) "My so called Thai language school called me and" - So now it is a 'so called language school', but when you signed up it was a visa mill (which you wanted) ? You made your choices, you decided to get an ED visa but 'forget' to study, so now you must face the consequences ! Edited September 7, 2014 by bigt116 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I only have to do the test if i want to apply for the a second year visa, i dont have to do the Test to extend the last 90 days on my first year visa right? I think that is the most likely. But since nothing appears to have been published officially, can't be sure either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai20144 Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 "My so called Thai language school called me and" - So now it is a 'so called language school', but when you signed up it was a visa mill (which you wanted) ? You made your choices, you decided to get an ED visa but 'forget' to study, so now you must face the consequences ! "Mai Phen Rai" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Maybe a strong case for all us Brits living in LOS to seek ED visas for learning the Thai language and passing the appropriate Ministry of Education test, so that we can then converse fluently with local staff in their native language at With-It Tower (aka the Trendy Building) at passport renewal time, and also at the Embassy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 If you study another language , like chinese, japanese or english , they will not ask you to do a test . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai20144 Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) If you study another language , like chinese, japanese or english , they will not ask you to do a test . Genius idea! I always wanted to learn Muay Thai or Chinese, so next thing is to find a training center. Thanks. Edited September 7, 2014 by Maestro Removed unintelligible part of the post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keesters Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 That should be a test a the Ministry of Education. Not difficult to pass. Doesn't any test from the Ministry of Education come with a guaranteed pass? Many have told me there is no such thing as FAIL just a low pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradinAsia Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Maybe a strong case for all us Brits living in LOS to seek ED visas for learning the Thai language and passing the appropriate Ministry of Education test, so that we can then converse fluently with local staff in their native language at With-It Tower (aka the Trendy Building) at passport renewal time, and also at the Embassy! Very few people who study Thai for one year will be able to speak Thai fluently. Very few. Almost zero I would say. If you are a diligent student -- One year to get going with basic everyday conversation. Two years to make yourself functional in most situations. Minimum of 4-5 years to approach what could be called fluency. This is based on my experience in studying 10 Asian languages over the last 50 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai20144 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 That should be a test a the Ministry of Education. Not difficult to pass. Doesn't any test from the Ministry of Education come with a guaranteed pass? Many have told me there is no such thing as FAIL just a low pass. Tell us more by pm.. Im all ears... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesquite Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 if they do require a test, dont you think this makes perfect sense, seeing as one has been issued the ed visa to study Thai ? Why so suprised about a "Thai language test" you are suppose to be studying Thai.. . I am not surprized but TiT and when i started the course it was clear that most of the students dont even attend class and i ask them so if i miss class whats happens, they replied that as long as they know where the student is in Thailand it was ok. Wink Wink. The school was more about getting people on visa etc. But now that has changed with the crackdown and all of a sudden their a "Real School" using their words. All i want to know is this Test really required for everyone like they say? Hopefully the powers now in charge will put an end to the above in bold. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoli Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) Maybe a strong case for all us Brits living in LOS to seek ED visas for learning the Thai language and passing the appropriate Ministry of Education test, so that we can then converse fluently with local staff in their native language at With-It Tower (aka the Trendy Building) at passport renewal time, and also at the Embassy! Very few people who study Thai for one year will be able to speak Thai fluently. Very few. Almost zero I would say. If you are a diligent student -- One year to get going with basic everyday conversation. Two years to make yourself functional in most situations. Minimum of 4-5 years to approach what could be called fluency. This is based on my experience in studying 10 Asian languages over the last 50 years. I have only been going to classes for 8 months, and I have to agree with you 100%. Most students in the U.S. study Spanish every school day for 2 years, and I have never seen one of them come out fluent in Spanish. It takes time, and a lot of study, to learn a new language. Edited September 8, 2014 by stoli 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 if they do require a test, dont you think this makes perfect sense, seeing as one has been issued the ed visa to study Thai ? Why so suprised about a "Thai language test" you are suppose to be studying Thai.. . I am not surprized but TiT and when i started the course it was clear that most of the students dont even attend class and i ask them so if i miss class whats happens, they replied that as long as they know where the student is in Thailand it was ok. Wink Wink. The school was more about getting people on visa etc. But now that has changed with the crackdown and all of a sudden their a "Real School" using their words. All i want to know is this Test really required for everyone like they say? I doubt everyone will be tested, only those who have received an ED visa for learning Thai--should not be a problem for anyone using the visa legitimately, only those trying to circumvent the system and get a free ride should have a problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Anyone here taken the exam yet? Would 3 months of studing Thai be enough to past it? If you attend the 4 hr class a week? You mean you are actually considering attending school? Wonderful, a step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keesters Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 That should be a test a the Ministry of Education. Not difficult to pass. Doesn't any test from the Ministry of Education come with a guaranteed pass? Many have told me there is no such thing as FAIL just a low pass. Tell us more by pm.. Im all ears... I see that you're a freshman at TV and would guess that you're also a freshman to Thailand. Have a look around some of the education threads and you'll see what I meant by my original comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) Maybe a strong case for all us Brits living in LOS to seek ED visas for learning the Thai language and passing the appropriate Ministry of Education test, so that we can then converse fluently with local staff in their native language at With-It Tower (aka the Trendy Building) at passport renewal time, and also at the Embassy! Very few people who study Thai for one year will be able to speak Thai fluently. Very few. Almost zero I would say. If you are a diligent student -- One year to get going with basic everyday conversation. Two years to make yourself functional in most situations. Minimum of 4-5 years to approach what could be called fluency. This is based on my experience in studying 10 Asian languages over the last 50 years. I have only been going to classes for 8 months, and I have to agree with you 100%. Most students in the U.S. study Spanish every school day for 2 years, and I have never seen one of them come out fluent in Spanish. It takes time, and a lot of study, to learn a new language. Better get my skates on then. Only 8.5 years to go before I next have to renew my passport! On a more serious note, though, is studying for a foreign language OK on a retirement extension of stay (employment is, of course, most certainly not)? If I could avoid having to go down the ED visa route so much the better. Edited September 8, 2014 by OJAS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHamon Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I see many language school offer lessons to learn Russian (or other some much language very unfamiliar to the majority of Thais) in the near future... this way the TEST will be almost impossible to GIVE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) if they do require a test, dont you think this makes perfect sense, seeing as one has been issued the ed visa to study Thai ? Why so suprised about a "Thai language test" you are suppose to be studying Thai.. . But why is it okay for Thai students to go to school and not learn anything? They can graduate without actually studying or working but only relying on copying and cheating. When Thai students fail a test, they are fed the answers and then do the test again and again and again until they can finally recall enough of those answers they were given to get a passing grade. I suppose if they want to test foreigners who study here, at least approach the tests the same way as they do with Thai students. WOW what a completely childish attempt at a comparision and justification, the key difference is dear boy Thai students are not blagging a visa out it A lot of these language schools were never set up to educate anyone, but mearly exploited a loophole to provide long term visa's for people... Isnt it reasonable to expect someone who has been given a visa to study Thai that after a certain period of time that the person has at least the basic's of the language ? and therefore prove they have actually been studying the language in order to get another visa or an extension ? Go on a student visa anywhere in the world and if your not turning up for classes, or not complying with requirements of your Student visa, expect your visa not to be renewed I suppose next your going to suggest because Thai nationals can live in their own country without a visa, foreigners should be treated the same ?....grow up Edited September 8, 2014 by Soutpeel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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