impulse Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 To the OP, no disrespect intended, but if you have to ask the question, there is no legal and effective weapon. No matter what you use, training is going to be key. (If you had asked, "where can I find a size 14 dooflotchee that I trained on in the SAS?", that's different) I'm one of those guys, too. No training so no weapons carried with me. On the other hand, reading the Phuket, Pattaya, Bangkok and Samui news, there seem to be about half a dozen common threads that run through most tragic foreigner victim stories. I have correlated the ones that may affect me, and avoid a convergence of those places, times of day and activities. Almost 4 years in, I have never felt threatened once. The guys telling you to use your brain are giving you the best advice. There is no weapon you can legally carry that will outdo a gang of thugs. (Except that bodyguard idea, but that's out of my price range) Oh, and I'm fast when I'm scared. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftvader Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Op, banging your head against the wall I'm afraid. You be better off asking the cat than this clueless bunch who think using their brain and being respectful to the yabba-eating goon who's about to attack them will see them right. lol This is the best reply on this thread. A clueless bunch of apologists indeed, that will bow, wai, bend over, suck, reverse, grovel, slobber, etc. that say respect the Thais, and you will not have a problem. Wise up Maybe I don't hang out where you do? That'll be me using my brain... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireMedic Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I always carry good Karma. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudel Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 About two years ago me and my inlaws where invited to a becoming a monk party two of the local village drunks started insulting my then wife and teenage daughter and then descided to have a go at me and my two year old son who i was carrying on my arm but luckely some of the family and locals chased said people down the soi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loptr Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Carrying a weapon? What utter nonsense. All you need to do is a call to the police and it's a guarentee they'll quickly come to your assistence. Have you ever been to Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfie Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 My previous comment was ment to be facetious. I've lived here eight years. If the OP thinks he can even try to defend him then he's as good as dead. Remember, Thais attack in groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfie Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) Curse of the double post. Edited September 18, 2014 by Halfie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 My previous comment was ment to be facetious. I've lived here eight years. If the OP thinks he can even try to defend him then he's as good as dead. Remember, Thais attack in groups. So do my dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazygourmet Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 My previous comment was ment to be facetious. I've lived here eight years. If the OP thinks he can even try to defend him then he's as good as dead. Remember, Thais attack in groups. So do my dogs. So our geese... Nastier than our dogs, by the way! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggsie Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) Double-Post - sorry. Edited September 18, 2014 by Duggsie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggsie Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 OP, read the numerous threads on TVF how to treat dogs when they attack you. Never show fear, but always show your opponents that he will have a hard time with you. 98% will turn away. For the other 2% find a stick a stone or any other object and try to attack first. If all these doesn't work......make sure you have a good hospital insurance. Good Luck. Thai dogs are cowards, focus their eyes and they will be afraid.....(Don't try it with a German Shepard or Rottweiler), but on the other side they work well as pack....while 1-2 get your attention others circle around you and try to get your from behind. We had a dangerous pack in the street, they made problems with everyone....My mother came to visit....had some lovely dog food with her. Since when they saw her they protected her, even when she was without food. One elderly woman walking with 10 dogs around her which don't let anyone come close to her I've been doing the same for years. Around half a mile from home is a 7/11 surrounded by mutts after dark. Our Soi and Moo can be intimidating (dangerous even) at night because of the dogs that are ostensibly there to protect each property along the way. Some are of the pitbull variety and not to be toyed with. On my very first trip home, I bought a couple of warm frankfurters from the 7/11 for no better reason than that I felt sorry for the hungry pooch's outside. I spent time teaching them to "take-nicely" bits of meat from my hand and talked to them whilst also stroking them (OK, i admit it, I love dogs and spent many years training Alsatians and Border Collies to Competition Trial and Obedience show standards, a few decades ago). They followed me almost all the way home. Even braving the territorial brutes on the way (within limits). They now follow me home whether or not I've fed them and recognise me even when I've been away for a year, or more. Funny thing is, they never follow me into town, only when I'm going home. Maybe I'm sounding a bit "romantic" but I know what I know and what I know is I've made some good pals there (for the price of a few hot-dogs and a few kind words). Be nice to the natives and they will be nice to you is my maxim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padsterj Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Don't carry a weapon. Carry a brain. You should be able to avoid or talk your way out of any situation using the brain you're carrying. If you truly need to carry a weapon, hire someone to do it for you. A man carries a brain. A grunt carries a weapon. Men hire grunts to protect them. I take exception to your comment having been a body guard for many years without my brains and know how many a person would be dead without this grunt ! you really think a brain isnt needed to look after someone god help us all! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I have an led flashlight that has a strobe mode for defense. You apparently shine it into someone's eyes and they can't come at you. Actually any led light shone into someone's eyes would help in stopping them coming at you. Only at night of course. Many are small and easily carried in a pocket. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggsie Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Don't carry a weapon. Carry a brain. You should be able to avoid or talk your way out of any situation using the brain you're carrying. If you truly need to carry a weapon, hire someone to do it for you. A man carries a brain. A grunt carries a weapon. Men hire grunts to protect them. I take exception to your comment having been a body guard for many years without my brains and know how many a person would be dead without this grunt ! you really think a brain isnt needed to look after someone god help us all! I think you'll find the "grunts" ARE his brains, where security is concerned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soihok Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 OP asked "What can we legally carry for self-defence?" I call them my brothers in law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggsie Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 OP asked "What can we legally carry for self-defence?" I call them my brothers in law. Until your money runs out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soihok Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 OP asked "What can we legally carry for self-defence?" I call them my brothers in law. Until your money runs out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbanda Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) You probably think that this is a joke..but isn't... Carry a water gun that looks very real....If the rival had just a knife will run away...if not...shoot water on its face...The surprise will give you time for you to run .......Even guard dogs do not like by sprayed with water...It is a legal "weapon"..... Useful for Sonkrang too! And...if you will like to be "remember"..load it with toilette cleaner...... Edited September 19, 2014 by umbanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 You probably think that this is a joke..but isn't... Carry a water gun that looks very real....If the rival had just a knife will run away...if not...shoot water on its face...The surprise will give you time for you to run .......Even guard dogs do not like by sprayed with water...It is a legal "weapon"..... Useful for Sonkrang too! And...if you will like to be "remember"..load it with toilette cleaner...... Mistaking Water Pistol for Gun, Police Shoot Brooklyn Youth, 16http://www.nytimes.com/1998/08/24/nyregion/mistaking-water-pistol-for-gun-police-shoot-brooklyn-youth-16.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 get out of harm's way is the best weapon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisparateDan Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) This will generate some flak. For one on one I kept a small plastic comb, hid in fist and when someone was threatening I would whip it down a cheek. This was in the days of open razors and the guy would clap his hand to his cheek in horror and leap back, then up to you, one in the goolies or flee. "Once armed whose cause is just, Thrice armed who gets his blow in fust" (Barlinnie Jail) Edited September 19, 2014 by DisparateDan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccarty Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Not sure if this is legal: Less than $20 from Amazon- The VIPERTEK VTS-191 stun gun really packs a punch! Just test firing this unit into the air is often enough to stop an attacker. As the bright electric current pulsates between the test prongs and creates an intimidating electrical sound, an attacker with any sense at all will be stopped in his tracks. If the sight and sound doesn't stop him, a jolt from this stun gun certainly will bring an attacker down! When an attacker is touched by the stun gun it will disrupt the message the brain sends to the voluntary muscles. Simply touching an attacker will deliver a high voltage shock causing loss of balance and muscle control, confusion, and disorientation bringing him to his knees and making him incapable of further aggressive activity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I hear that the ..."SLX"... works rather well. In fact, you can overcome a whole gang of thugs with this item. Everyone already owns one, so just put it to the right use, and you will be a winner every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 wonder if the farangs killed in recent years would have been able to use such a device ,prolly not. the yank hacked by hatchet by the BKK taxi driver ? the 2 on ko tao ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 SLX = shoe leather express run, man, run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I've only been attacked buy guys with machetes in Thailand three times so I'm no expert. I agree with the running thing and would add it's a good idea to know which bars have a back door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie01 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 To answer the OPs question, get a small collapsible baton, then get some training on how to use it... A small baton can be carried in your pocket and extended within a second... In a bad situation, just getting it open, then jumping up and down like Bruce Lee and screaming bloody murder might scare off an attacker... That is unless they sneak up behind you and bash in your head with a rock... i carry a meat baton in my pants every time I'm out and it regularly gets extended, not a very effective weapon as it often ends getting flogged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munsterman Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I have lived here for seven years and not once in that time have I been close to having any sort of physical altercation with a Thai. How about just using some common sense and your two legs to run away if the shit hits the fan? Geez do I really have to say that when its SO obvious? You are writing on a TV forum. Did you really expect something different?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 ok more to the point, who here has been attacked by a thai for no reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 ... is that wives excluded? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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