FM: International community has more confidence in Thailand

[northernjohn]

Secretary General statement of 22 May 2014, SG/SM/15871

Department of Public Information • News and Media Division • New York

SECRETARY-GENERAL, FOLLOWING THAILAND MILITARY TAKEOVER, APPEALS FOR PROMPT RETURN TO DEMOCRATIC RULE

The following statement was issued today by the Spokesman for UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon:

The Secretary-General is seriously concerned by the military takeover in Thailand today. He appeals for a prompt return to constitutional, civilian, democratic rule and an all-inclusive dialogue that will pave the way for long-term peace and prosperity in Thailand. The Secretary-General urges all parties to work together constructively, refrain from violence and respect human rights.

What a piece of nonsense. It was written the day after all the parties involved refused to change their course of actions. He is a politician and thereby incapable of being honest.

[northernjohn]

Of course the international community support Thailand's transition to democracy. Who wouldn't? It had not been seen for over 3 years so it is a welcome transition.

On the 26th of February Ban Ki-moon said there should be no place for violence by any side in resolving political differences and disputes. He urged all concerned to respect human rights and the rule of law. He strongly urges the parties to engage as soon as possible in meaningful and inclusive dialogue toward ending the crisis and advancing genuine reform.

This did not happen. The terrorists were still funded by the regime's terrorist wing. The rule of law was not respected with the terrorists killing and maiming with impunity on a daily basis. There was no respect for human rights with innocent citizens and children being amongst the bloody dead. None of Ban Ki-Moons comments were adhered to.

On the 20th of May Ban Ki-Moon called on all sides to work together to seek a solution to the prolonged political stalemate through constructive dialogue. He said the way to secure Thailand's peace and prosperity is through full respect for democratic principles and engagement in democratic processes. The Secretary-General urges all sides to exercise utmost restraint, refrain from any violence and fully respect human rights.

This did not happen. There was no peace dialogue achieved. Democratic principles were not respected which is why the protests by the majority began in the first place. No restraint was achieved with innocent people dying everyday while UDD terrorist supports clapped and cheered the deaths.

Then on the 22nd of May the Good General Prayuth forced the parties together after he said "The blood that spilt on the street is piercing my heart". After 7 months of innocent lives lost with not a single arrest by the terrorist funding government the Good General had to act. Bringing the parties together was a directive of the UN and Ban Ki-Moon. The General followed the UN's advice. Parties came together and steadfastly refused to diplomatically resolve the anti democratic ways fostered by the PTP (oh, yes I hear, elections!! haha. That's all I ever hear). This the endless violence would continue with impunity. Since any law abiding peace loving citizen could and would not allow a future of daily bloodt terrorist attacks the Good General further continued to follow the UN advice who asked for the rule of law to be respected. After the 24th of May it was. No more terrorist attacks. Arrests started to happen. Accountability was happening. Baby steps to democracy were being seen to happen.

This adherence by the General to Ban Ki-Moons advice has not gone unnoticed by Ban or the UN. In fact I remember Ban Ki-Moon encouraged and supported Fiji's return to democracy when Rear Admiral (Ret) Bainimarama met with Mr Ban a year ago in New York, promising that Fiji would have free and fair elections in 12 months time. Ban Ki-moon supported this and in his meeting on the 27th of September, he informed the secretary general that Fiji had faithfully delivered on that promise. Well done and it can be guaranteed that Ban will say the same when Thailand does as well.

Oh that brought a tear to my eye, mainly through laughter. Do you honestly believe the tosh you write?

By the way, it was suthep who said "The blood that spilt on the street is piercing my heart" on the 18th January, not Gen. Squiggle on the 22nd May.

The quote was part of a diatribe from the PDRC Lumpini stage, referring to a grenade that was thrown from a deserted building injuring 38 "protesters". The perpetrator of that event widely thought to be a member of the PDRC with much exposure on social media.

But hey, why let a misattributed quote get in the way of a fawning hagiography......................

Hear hear. The Mandela of the East spoke to the masses saying the people have suffered too much while the opposition clapped and cheered the deaths that made Suthep's heart pierce.

It is wonderful to see you have me off your ignore list now Fabie. Cheers.

I see this as a sign of reconciliation that will lead to true democracy.

I hope I can buy you a beer at the TV bar in Bangkok some time in recognition of the reform process returning true democracy to the people.

I do notice the typical signature UDD condescension is still a signature move of yours though your rubics cube interpretation ( articulation) is improving as I can understand somewhat what you are trying to convey.

Try to be peaceful and reconciliatory. It is more becoming.

today we have the people of HK fighting for democracy and here we get ammart apologists defending a dictatorship

No comparison HK is a city trying to act like it is a country of it's own. Here we have a country with a leadership fighting desperately to bring a just Democracy to a country that has been under the thumb of one family for 14 years.

[heybruce]

Of course the international community support Thailand's transition to democracy. Who wouldn't? It had not been seen for over 3 years so it is a welcome transition.

On the 26th of February Ban Ki-moon said there should be no place for violence by any side in resolving political differences and disputes. He urged all concerned to respect human rights and the rule of law. He strongly urges the parties to engage as soon as possible in meaningful and inclusive dialogue toward ending the crisis and advancing genuine reform.

This did not happen. The terrorists were still funded by the regime's terrorist wing. The rule of law was not respected with the terrorists killing and maiming with impunity on a daily basis. There was no respect for human rights with innocent citizens and children being amongst the bloody dead. None of Ban Ki-Moons comments were adhered to.

On the 20th of May Ban Ki-Moon called on all sides to work together to seek a solution to the prolonged political stalemate through constructive dialogue. He said the way to secure Thailand's peace and prosperity is through full respect for democratic principles and engagement in democratic processes. The Secretary-General urges all sides to exercise utmost restraint, refrain from any violence and fully respect human rights.

This did not happen. There was no peace dialogue achieved. Democratic principles were not respected which is why the protests by the majority began in the first place. No restraint was achieved with innocent people dying everyday while UDD terrorist supports clapped and cheered the deaths.

Then on the 22nd of May the Good General Prayuth forced the parties together after he said "The blood that spilt on the street is piercing my heart". After 7 months of innocent lives lost with not a single arrest by the terrorist funding government the Good General had to act. Bringing the parties together was a directive of the UN and Ban Ki-Moon. The General followed the UN's advice. Parties came together and steadfastly refused to diplomatically resolve the anti democratic ways fostered by the PTP (oh, yes I hear, elections!! haha. That's all I ever hear). This the endless violence would continue with impunity. Since any law abiding peace loving citizen could and would not allow a future of daily bloodt terrorist attacks the Good General further continued to follow the UN advice who asked for the rule of law to be respected. After the 24th of May it was. No more terrorist attacks. Arrests started to happen. Accountability was happening. Baby steps to democracy were being seen to happen.

This adherence by the General to Ban Ki-Moons advice has not gone unnoticed by Ban or the UN. In fact I remember Ban Ki-Moon encouraged and supported Fiji's return to democracy when Rear Admiral (Ret) Bainimarama met with Mr Ban a year ago in New York, promising that Fiji would have free and fair elections in 12 months time. Ban Ki-moon supported this and in his meeting on the 27th of September, he informed the secretary general that Fiji had faithfully delivered on that promise. Well done and it can be guaranteed that Ban will say the same when Thailand does as well.

First and most obviously--Fuji?

Regarding 'support for the coup from the UN and Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon:

"United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said he was seriously concerned by the military takeover. In a statement, Ban appealed "for a prompt return to constitutional, civilian and democratic rule, as well as an all-inclusive dialogue that will pave the way for long-term peace and prosperity in Thailand".

Meanwhile, the UN Human Rights Office said martial law and military orders being imposed might infringe on fundamental freedoms. Spokeswoman Ravina Shamdasani said: "We remind the authorities of Thailand's obligations under the international human-rights law, in particular the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, which strictly limit the application of emergency powers."" http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/728697-international-community-slams-coup/?hl=%2Binternational

A rather transparent attempt at re-writing history there djjamie.

Support for the coup? I said that??? What? Re-writing history? Where?

Completely agree with what you wrote. I never stated otherwise.

I stated what Ban Ki-Moon on the dates stated. I stated what the reaction to those statements were.

Come on. Try a bit harder mate.

Your very first sentence was:

"Of course the international community support Thailand's transition to democracy."

I provided evidence this is not true. Can you provide evidence that it is true?

[fab4]

Of course the international community support Thailand's transition to democracy. Who wouldn't? It had not been seen for over 3 years so it is a welcome transition.

On the 26th of February Ban Ki-moon said there should be no place for violence by any side in resolving political differences and disputes. He urged all concerned to respect human rights and the rule of law. He strongly urges the parties to engage as soon as possible in meaningful and inclusive dialogue toward ending the crisis and advancing genuine reform.

This did not happen. The terrorists were still funded by the regime's terrorist wing. The rule of law was not respected with the terrorists killing and maiming with impunity on a daily basis. There was no respect for human rights with innocent citizens and children being amongst the bloody dead. None of Ban Ki-Moons comments were adhered to.

On the 20th of May Ban Ki-Moon called on all sides to work together to seek a solution to the prolonged political stalemate through constructive dialogue. He said the way to secure Thailand's peace and prosperity is through full respect for democratic principles and engagement in democratic processes. The Secretary-General urges all sides to exercise utmost restraint, refrain from any violence and fully respect human rights.

This did not happen. There was no peace dialogue achieved. Democratic principles were not respected which is why the protests by the majority began in the first place. No restraint was achieved with innocent people dying everyday while UDD terrorist supports clapped and cheered the deaths.

Then on the 22nd of May the Good General Prayuth forced the parties together after he said "The blood that spilt on the street is piercing my heart". After 7 months of innocent lives lost with not a single arrest by the terrorist funding government the Good General had to act. Bringing the parties together was a directive of the UN and Ban Ki-Moon. The General followed the UN's advice. Parties came together and steadfastly refused to diplomatically resolve the anti democratic ways fostered by the PTP (oh, yes I hear, elections!! haha. That's all I ever hear). This the endless violence would continue with impunity. Since any law abiding peace loving citizen could and would not allow a future of daily bloodt terrorist attacks the Good General further continued to follow the UN advice who asked for the rule of law to be respected. After the 24th of May it was. No more terrorist attacks. Arrests started to happen. Accountability was happening. Baby steps to democracy were being seen to happen.

This adherence by the General to Ban Ki-Moons advice has not gone unnoticed by Ban or the UN. In fact I remember Ban Ki-Moon encouraged and supported Fiji's return to democracy when Rear Admiral (Ret) Bainimarama met with Mr Ban a year ago in New York, promising that Fiji would have free and fair elections in 12 months time. Ban Ki-moon supported this and in his meeting on the 27th of September, he informed the secretary general that Fiji had faithfully delivered on that promise. Well done and it can be guaranteed that Ban will say the same when Thailand does as well.

Oh that brought a tear to my eye, mainly through laughter. Do you honestly believe the tosh you write?

By the way, it was suthep who said "The blood that spilt on the street is piercing my heart" on the 18th January, not Gen. Squiggle on the 22nd May.

The quote was part of a diatribe from the PDRC Lumpini stage, referring to a grenade that was thrown from a deserted building injuring 38 "protesters". The perpetrator of that event widely thought to be a member of the PDRC with much exposure on social media.

But hey, why let a misattributed quote get in the way of a fawning hagiography......................

PS.

As per usual from the terrorist supporters I will say.

Any rebuttal on what I have highlighted?

The Ban Ki-Moon narrative?

The Fiji subject?

Or is that too hard to rebut?

Maybe stick with the belittling?

Are you bi-polar? One post it's all peace and reconciliation and the next it's "as per usual from the terrorist supporters".

So apart from your lies about the alleged prayuth quote you up the ante with more BS about talks not happening as if it was the fault of the PTP. Yingluck offered talks with the PDRC on December 18th 2013, January 15th 2014, February 24th 2014, turned down a meeting on the 19th March because suthep had already refused to enter into talks, agreed to talks with the PDRC and abhisit on the 25th April which abhisit backed out of at the last minute supposedly because of his safety. The Democrat spokesman, Chavanond Intarakomalyasut was quoted as saying that there was an "armed group" that were planning "a suicide mission to attack Mr.Abhisit".

So no more bull about the "Ban Ki-Moon initiative please.