Koh Tao: All three migrant workers confess to rape and murder of British tourists

[Commerce]

I don't find it so inconceivable that these men would be capable of doing it: drunk, young, male, poor, illegally employed, drifter, sex deprived, cabin fever (island).

Do thaivisa naysayers accept that such people might commit murder?

Nobody who is poor smokes L&M . Q.E.D.

Plus, it was confirmed the male victim was hit with a blunt instrument. If you're going to hit somebody with a hoe, you sure don't use the handle! Q.E.D.

All a set up.... poor guys.

[Oziex1]

Some here give credit to the RTP for solving this crime and maybe they have.

But when all is said and done (not here on TV dot com yet) who actually trusts the RTP, Thais despise them, expats don't like them, tourists get ripped off by them.

They don't have many friends, rich powerful and no friends, good luck to them.

[fabphil]

Thought they already had there DNA...??? hmmm

[DJVillain]

If this is all true then it's great news for the families to these scumbags finally arrested and give at least some closure for them.

There's a lot of unsolved all around the world that will never be solved and the Thai police were under the pump from day one with such a high profile case.

Let's hope that all the authorities involved in this case will learn from this including procedures and press statements in future cases.

18 days is excellent work considering the amount of suspects they had to deal with.

Well done despite the press gaffs along the way!

Agree completely with you. As I mentioned in another thread, not exactly textbook criminal investigating, but, it now appears certain the RTP have found the culprits.

The way the families of David and Hannah have conducted themselves throughout this ordeal is a real credit to them. I am also extremely proud of the RTP for sticking to their guns and investigating they way they deemed most appropriate.

I believe this outcome will surely go some way to restoring people's faith in not only the RTP, but also in Thailand as a holiday destination.

Stay safe guys, use common sense and let's all stop with the silly conspiracy theories and get on with the healing process for all involved.

Meanwhile the real killers are sitting somewhere laughing and joking. Does that sit easy with you in cloud cuckoo land?

Too many on here are unwilling to accept any outcome other than a Hi So Thai.

They themselves are as bad as they claim the RTP to be. Only interesded if evidence points to Hi So.

Well... When the government and police are unwilling to accept any outcome other than 'its not a Thai'; what do you expect?

[dieseldave1951]

you'll get many brownie points for this statement from the police

the fact that is people who refuse DNA tests HAVE something to HIDE

what make them so special (mafia thats what)

do you not think this is odd behaviour

If this is all true then it's great news for the families to these scumbags finally arrested and give at least some closure for them.

There's a lot of unsolved all around the world that will never be solved and the Thai police were under the pump from day one with such a high profile case.

Let's hope that all the authorities involved in this case will learn from this including procedures and press statements in future cases.

18 days is excellent work considering the amount of suspects they had to deal with.

Well done despite the press gaffs along the way!

Agree completely with you. As I mentioned in another thread, not exactly textbook criminal investigating, but, it now appears certain the RTP have found the culprits.

The way the families of David and Hannah have conducted themselves throughout this ordeal is a real credit to them. I am also extremely proud of the RTP for sticking to their guns and investigating they way they deemed most appropriate.

I believe this outcome will surely go some way to restoring people's faith in not only the RTP, but also in Thailand as a holiday destination.

Stay safe guys, use common sense and let's all stop with the silly conspiracy theories and get on with the healing process for all involved.

The only thing that will restore my faith in the RTP is a start from scratch with whole new police force.

[oldsailor35]

I do not know wether it is true or not, but the general census appears to be, that in many cases, rich families of their uncontrollable criminal sons have actually paid the families of poor Thais very large sums of money to "take the rap and spend time in prison by admitting to the crime. This i am led to believe can always be arranged by the Thai police. Not so long ago a very well connected Farang real estate developer on Samui told me that if i am ever in any trouble with Samui police , to see him as he had all the right police contacts and for a financial consideration to his contacts , he could get me out of it.

[hgma]

I sincerely hope that ALL involved in resolving this and future cases, will learn from the media circus surrounding the horrible crime committed.

A thorough evaluation on Rescue workers - police - investigators and superiors ventilating all sort of irrelevant information to the press, contaminating a crime scene on arrival and in the process 'ducking on the buck', meaning offering money for a confession, this evaluation must be conducted and clear guidelines in the form of crime scenes scenario handling established.

Furthermore Thailand needs to take care of its tourist industry in such away that people arrive and leave happy.

Tourists on the other hand must understand that in SEA, NO-ONE has privacy, and certainly not on a private beach.

Safety is a 2-2 tango scenario.

[6NS]

I'd rather spit on Putin's boot than be in that Safe House with them.

Police officers then led the two to a safe-house where they were intensively interrogated.

This is the scary bit . . . . . probably admit to anything while there.

Scary indeed. "A safe house where the BIB's vigorisly beat the crap out of them...and there you go....confession!
In all truthfulness i dont believe any of them did this. The big shot headsmen and son...absolutely did! IMO.

[bunuel]

Er, were those the UK Ambassador's words, or have they been " paraphrased? "

" Exemplary professionalism"?!! Diplomatic niceties aside, hard to believe he

would lay it on that thick - especially in this codswallop of a case!

Mr. Kent went on to praise the Royal Thai Police in solving the case and have shown exemplary professionalism as a crime fighting unit.

People from the UK must be so proud of their ambassador to Thailand.

[Cambodger]

I am not speculating if the Black Burmese did or did not murder that Essex Blonde.

It only prove that they (more than two) had sex and a cigarette before/after that.

Please uphold western standard on innocent until proven guilty.

What a despicable and pathetic excuse for a man you must be to talk about a beautiful young girl who has been murdered in such a way, "that Essex blonde", you're the type of jumped up peasant that wouldn't have the game to hold down a 2 minute conversation with such a girl.

You talk of upholding western standards?? hopefully not your bottom feeding standards.

[boomerangutang]

Well done to the Royal Thai Police , and shame on you on this forum speculating if the DNA is false evidence etc,

Yes I know all of you wanted it to be a hi so influential Thai but sometimes the truth can be hard to swallow .

What is the fact is that 80% of the workers on the island are immigrants and most of them from Myanmar .

It should come as no surprise that the killers are immigrants .

Without a DNA match the discussions would have continued forever here on TV.

Now we will follow the trial until the end , and it will most certainly end in life sentence for the Burmese guy who is the killer , do you really think they want to be scapegoats when their life will end in a prison for the rest of their lifes? Not even 10 million baht will be worth it.

Again well done to the police.

speaking of DNA: Mon supposedly supplied DNA and it was processed in hours instead of days. How come current tests of others' DNA takes days? His nephew, a prime suspect, hasn't provided DNA. Many Burmese low-classers were supposedly tested a week ago, but even now, none of their DNA has matched with the crime scene. All in all, Thai investigators have made a complete mess of the DNA trail. We can't even trust whether the original samples (or any samples) are reliable.

As for sentencing: ordinarily, this heinous of a crime warrants death. However, (and you can quote me on this), the Burmese scapegoats will get life sentences at most. Why? because with under-the-table payoffs (for forced confessions) a promise of 'no death sentence' gives the Burmese hope of getting out someday in the future, to get the money.

We'll see how this pans during the trail, especially if the defense Lawyer does not ask for an independent DNA Test to be performed on his clients

[bruceybonus]

The British Ambassador should resign. What a pathetic yes man. I'm feel utterly sick

[MikePhuket1970]

Well done to the Royal Thai Police , A difficult Crime to solve due to the large amount of foreigners and Migrant workers on the island. Anyone on this post who thinks they could have done a better job in two weeks of solving this crime should go home stop being a typical Farang layabout and get a proper job and leave the stupid comments out of the post. I bet the DNA comes back a perfect match for all three suspects.

Land of Shame done it again

[oldsailor35]

Some here give credit to the RTP for solving this crime and maybe they have.

But when all is said and done (not here on TV dot com yet) who actually trusts the RTP, Thais despise them, expats don't like them, tourists get ripped off by them.

They don't have many friends, rich powerful and no friends, good luck to them.

As an ex-pat i can definately say that from 10 years of seeing how they behave, there is not one Thai policeman i could trust. I may be wrong, but as far as i am concerned, they are all corrupt even the few of them that smile.

[The stuttering parrot]

So one guy on here reckons 80% of posters on here are convinced this is a set up and these Gus are innocent.

Ok so why don't you 80% have a whip around and hire a lawyer to defend them?

Better still with all your hard evidence that you guys have why don't you present yourself to the nearest police station and pass on all relevant information to the BIB.

They have the guys with confessions and DNA but you so called 80% have evidence that clears them.

Well done police on such a high profile case.

Fair dinkum you blokes would boo Santa !

[Local Drunk]

Well done to the Royal Thai Police , and shame on you on this forum speculating if the DNA is false evidence etc,

Yes I know all of you wanted it to be a hi so influential Thai but sometimes the truth can be hard to swallow .

What is the fact is that 80% of the workers on the island are immigrants and most of them from Myanmar .

It should come as no surprise that the killers are immigrants .

Without a DNA match the discussions would have continued forever here on TV.

Now we will follow the trial until the end , and it will most certainly end in life sentence for the Burmese guy who is the killer , do you really think they want to be scapegoats when their life will end in a prison for the rest of their lifes? Not even 10 million baht will be worth it.

Again well done to the police.

speaking of DNA: Mon supposedly supplied DNA and it was processed in hours instead of days. How come current tests of others' DNA takes days? His nephew, a prime suspect, hasn't provided DNA. Many Burmese low-classers were supposedly tested a week ago, but even now, none of their DNA has matched with the crime scene. All in all, Thai investigators have made a complete mess of the DNA trail. We can't even trust whether the original samples (or any samples) are reliable.

As for sentencing: ordinarily, this heinous of a crime warrants death. However, (and you can quote me on this), the Burmese scapegoats will get life sentences at most. Why? because with under-the-table payoffs (for forced confessions) a promise of 'no death sentence' gives the Burmese hope of getting out someday in the future, to get the money.

We'll see how this pans during the trail, especially if the defense Lawyer does not ask for an independent DNA Test to be performed on his clients

They've confessed... there won't be a trial; just the sentencing.

[Monkeyrobot]

So these 3 guys where sitting on a log playing a song and having a drink, when I go for Karaoke I always take a garden hoe with me, standard equipment for a night out. What a load off crap.

[oldsailor35]

The British Ambassador should resign. What a pathetic yes man. I'm feel utterly sick

All British passport holders need to sign a petition to her majesty and the British government, condemning the snivelling drivel which has emanated from their ambassador and asking for his removal due to his incompetence.

[GOLDBUGGY]

The accused were taken to the "safe-house" for intensive interrogation.

So this is the name of the place the police use these days where they take you to be held, and put your balls is a vice grip? I suppose it does sound better that if you ever did get into trouble with the law, and you get to call home to you mom, that you tell her you are in a "Safe-House" instead of "Torture Chamber".

But what never ceases to amaze me is how is it that a Western Farang Bar Owner can't get a Work Permit to clean tables, when his place is busy, and in his own establishment, which clearly is taking no job away from anyone, when at the same time Migrant Workers can easily get permits to take jobs away that Thai's could easily do, but for cheaper wages. Isn't this what Immigration should try and stop?

But the other thing that never amazes me is how the Generals always show up after the battle is over to get all the glory.

[dieseldave1951]

that has to be the biggest load of crap yet !

of coarse he has paraphrased if he did then he is obviously toe sucking the Thais

Er, were those the UK Ambassador's words, or have they been " paraphrased? "
" Exemplary professionalism"?!! Diplomatic niceties aside, hard to believe he
would lay it on that thick - especially in this codswallop of a case!

Mr. Kent went on to praise the Royal Thai Police in solving the case and have shown exemplary professionalism as a crime fighting unit.

People from the UK must be so proud of their ambassador to Thailand.

[outsider]

So... 18 days to fabricate this story? As one poster said, if they were workers on the island, their DNA would be one of the first to be taken, no?

I repeat my challenge - Have the DNA of the island mafia/head honcho/village headman/powerful family/whatever and their families, workers, dogs and cats tested first. By independent bodies. Not saying they are guilty but I challenge them to submit themselves to an independent test if they are innocent, because I don't buy why they are exempted from being tested.

[bruceybonus]

Where are all the junta lovers now. Stamp out corruption, yeh pull the other one!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ubonfarang]

Easy solution...arrest the defenceless. I don't believe they did it.

[Cambodger]

I think Sean was there, and they were all high on drugs

David;s hero image is dead as, it is what I thought from the very start,

he was just getting started with the girl, and they hit him from behind and immediately jumped her while two guys drowned him

Of course Sean was there. The coward ran away and left David and Hannah behind. From hero to zero. All those posts on facebook by Sean are just reflection of his guilty conscience.

So if Sean was there, he knows who murdered them. And he named him already. If he was only with the Burmese, why would he accuse the well-connected Thai?

If you're wondering why Sean and the other friends are so quiet- well if they are prepared to talk i would imagine that they have already been snapped up on contracts by some production company who will be as we speak be working on a documentary expose for one of the big British TV companies.

They work pretty fast on stuff like this these days and i'm sure they will have been on the scene within a few days once it was revealed they were middle class kids.

That could explain why he deleted all the social media, though it could be just shame after getting publicly outed for the child porn.

[scorecard]

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on 18 sept i posted:

Posted by lucjoker on 2014-09-18 14:02:04 in Thailand News
.....
Was this "predator" aroused by just seeing a bikini?
Or by some other things done behind the rocks at night ?
I have no problems with that ,but others might loose control.

I was spot on , so now you know how to avoid problems ,arousing
simple minds can get you killed.

I suspect that when you say 'simple mind' you mean uneducated, naïve, unworldly etc., also meaning they have no sense of right or wrong and no morals.

Unfair to say the least.

Edited October 3, 2014 by scorecard

[bruceybonus]

The British Ambassador should resign. What a pathetic yes man. I'm feel utterly sick

All British passport holders need to sign a petition to her majesty and the British government, condemning the snivelling drivel which has emanated from their ambassador and asking for his removal due to his incompetence.

How do with go about this. We need to set something solid up and follow it through. This is despicable!!

[Beetlejuice]

Judging by the replies it seems to me that some posters on here have been on here so long that it has fried their brains.

I have seen this lot on other topics who come up with all these conspiracy theories even if people are guilty or not guilty as long as they can argue and try a get a rise out of posters that makes their day.

Never any credit where credit is due just the same old drivel and abuse of anyone who dares disagrees with their views .

I particularly liked the theory where I have planed my post or maybe it was I'm a troll all because I said if this is true then congrats to the police.

Wow boys there is a life beyond the cyber world of the internet.

Anyway go and hire a Mel Gibson movie called conspiracy theory and if these guys are indeed found guilty I hope you have the go nads to come back on here and apologise for being wrong.

Switch on your brain and stop stuttering, parrot! There is absolutely no reason whatsoever for a guilty non-Thai who knows that his life is not even worth a hundred Baht here in Thailand and that he has no voice and no lobby to remain on that island and simply wait until he is caught. The cigarette butts prove nothing and could have been planted, perhaps even by the real killers who were chasing a foreign guitar guy and tried to pin it on him. A good 90% of the posts here say that it smells fishy and someting is wrong here. Other forums follow suit. I would give you a bit more credit if the numbers were 50/50. If it all would be so easy, the Three L&M Stooges would have been in the slammer from day one!!!!!!

Those who are unable to put up a good argument and state their case without trying to bully their points across by getting abusive and insulting is an indication of low intellect and ignorance.

So with you and the many other Thai bashers and armchair detectives on here, the theory that this whole case is a farce and a set up is a foregone conclusion? There can be no question about it?

I would give such statements and comments from you and those other majority of Thai bashers as much credibility as I would from your namesake the children's clown TV character, Catweazle, meaning not feasible and not to be taken seriously.

As I have said; let us wait until all the results are collated and presented before jumping to conclusions and making accusations.

I believe the Thai police have done a wonderful job in apprehending these monsters, they have pulled out all stops and whistles in this case, no one could have done more. My guess is that the reasons these murderers did not leave the island once the investigation began, is because they were already under the scrutiny of the police and were probably stopped from exiting the area. As I said; wait and see what transpires.

Edited October 3, 2014 by Beetlejuice

[empireboy]

This travesty has been exacerbated by the very poor media and the expat's view of Thai Police (not unjustified!) so the truth is always in doubt... sadly! I hope for everyone concerned, they have the right guys and the families can commence the painful but necessary process of closure.

[whaleboneman]

I wonder why Sean was threatened?

While it's possible these three Burmese were involved in some way, I'm pretty sure there's a fourth person that may be skipping out.

[DekDaeng]

"Police officers then led the two to a safe-house where they were intensively interrogated."

Please keep this 'safe house' away from me -