benalibina Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Does it change your opinion about living in or coming to Thailand ? If yes...and no....why ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robertthebruce Posted October 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2014 No, as this is the kind of justice I expect in Thailand, Money or Influence talks..... That's for sure, Not a week goes by, and there is something. Crazy that happens, and then it's all forgotten about, and the Culprit is out walking the streets again, i.e. - "Redbull Grandson"..... I could go on, but we all know and are used to this.. How they can live with themselves, beats me.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rooo Posted October 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2014 Don't want to sound uncaring, but after a while hardly anyone remembers. A couple of murders ( high profile ) took place on Samui & it's always business as usual. The only ones concerned are the people living here & they remember, as for the general tourist populace I don't think most of them are aware. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Flint Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 No, as this is the kind of justice I expect in Thailand, Money or Influence talks..... That's for sure, Not a week goes by, and there is something. Crazy that happens, and then it's all forgotten about, and the Culprit is out walking the streets again, i.e. - "Redbull Grandson"..... I could go on, but we all know and are used to this.. How they can live with themselves, beats me.... Obviously non thais bribe cops too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Don't want to sound uncaring, but after a while hardly anyone remembers. A couple of murders ( high profile ) took place on Samui & it's always business as usual. The only ones concerned are the people living here & they remember, as for the general tourist populace I don't think most of them are aware. Pretty much agree except that only the family and close friends of any victims truly remember. Those still living here only really get upset when it happens again but like myself, they probably don't dwell on the realities of life (and violent death) in LOS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiPiFFS Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 As Roo says come high season it will be all but forgotten apart from the family. People will still come on holiday and to learn to dive and always will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrtoad Posted October 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2014 Having lived here 10 years, and been spending time in a Thailand since 91, then it is sadly no surprise, even though it is repulsive and anger provoking. The ineptitude and corruption that is all to evident will goon for a lot longer. The lack of a functioning police force that is respected and trusted is all to evident. The majority of Thai people, I have found to be good people and that view hasn't changed. I will certainly give Koh Tao a miss, and advise any family and friends to do so, but I'm not going to condemn a whole nation. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Don't want to sound uncaring, but after a while hardly anyone remembers. A couple of murders ( high profile ) took place on Samui & it's always business as usual. The only ones concerned are the people living here & they remember, as for the general tourist populace I don't think most of them are aware. Sad but true, a mate visited over the weekend from Dubai, he gets all the UK telly but was completely unaware of the events of the last couple of weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatman Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I have been through with Thailand for a while now. A hotel wanted 10k baht for supposed "damage" I caused to a room (a drawer wouldn't open and the ice cube tray in freezer was cracked) I lost my temper and insisted the manager call the police. The police listened to both sides and said I owed 20k baht - 10k for hotel, and 10k fee to BIB for settling the dispute. When I protested I was threatened with "Monkey House". I came to my senses and offered 5k. Cops took it and left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Don't want to sound uncaring, but after a while hardly anyone remembers. A couple of murders ( high profile ) took place on Samui & it's always business as usual. The only ones concerned are the people living here & they remember, as for the general tourist populace I don't think most of them are aware. Pretty much agree except that only the family and close friends of any victims truly remember. Those still living here only really get upset when it happens again but like myself, they probably don't dwell on the realities of life (and violent death) in LOS. no i will continue to live here as long as the wife is happy. in 31yrs.i have seen enough expecially the tourist area's so nothing really shocks me to make me want to leave and at my age well.as nan points out its mostly friends and family that suffer that goes mostly to the ones that live overseas. some here as long as they get a nice lump sum that will do. one thing i can say is thailand has become lawless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kurnell Posted October 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2014 This is the ugliest thing I have seen in Thailand in my 20 odd years here. A complete disgrace. Even the Thais are ashamed, and I am waiting for justice. The arrest and prosecution of the real killers would make me feel a lot better about Thailand and would improve Thailand's reputation no end. I hope that postings such as these keep pressure on the government here. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdanielmcev Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 No. Murders happen all over the world. How one is more heinous than any other is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Just another day in paradise ,no different from anywhere else ,murders rapes muggings ,far more prevelant in the west , after 23 years i have never been ,mugged ,beaten up turned over by the police have only seen one fight ,3 Thais going at it , we were broken into once ,police caught him not long after and my car has never been vandalized or broken into and the wheels have not been stolen ,now in my old home town ,that was a regular occurance for most of us ,we were broken into ,i saw myself two muggings in a couple of months ,no i feel much safer here ,and so tragic as it was these two poor tourists getting killed ,the truth is its a five minute wonder and will soon be forgoton RIP kids. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farang000999 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 what is most interesting about this tragedy is that social media is changing the willingness of everyday Thais to speak openly against the various "mafias and police" that rule over them. there is a lot of steam being built up below the surface. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farang000999 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Tourist Thailand sucks. I figured that out on day 3. I don't know how many can stand to live right in the middle of rip off central. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rooo Posted October 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2014 Off topic posts removed. Disrespectful posts removed. These sort of topics bring out the dregs of humanity, the mind boggles. We are going off topic here, There are several topics discussing the legal , investigation etc.... Just head off to the News section. This topic is about: Does it change your opinion about living in or coming to Thailand ?If yes...and no....why ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
culicine Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Don't want to sound uncaring, but after a while hardly anyone remembers. A couple of murders ( high profile ) took place on Samui & it's always business as usual. The only ones concerned are the people living here & they remember, as for the general tourist populace I don't think most of them are aware. Pretty much agree except that only the family and close friends of any victims truly remember. Those still living here only really get upset when it happens again but like myself, they probably don't dwell on the realities of life (and violent death) in LOS. no i will continue to live here as long as the wife is happy. in 31yrs.i have seen enough expecially the tourist area's so nothing really shocks me to make me want to leave and at my age well.as nan points out its mostly friends and family that suffer that goes mostly to the ones that live overseas. some here as long as they get a nice lump sum that will do. one thing i can say is thailand has become lawless. Thailand has always been lawless. But now the younger generation are more outspoken and have a more global outlook. They don't take it up the butt by authorities like the older generations. Facebook and twitter leave the cops squirming lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebruce Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 No, as this is the kind of justice I expect in Thailand, Money or Influence talks..... That's for sure, Not a week goes by, and there is something. Crazy that happens, and then it's all forgotten about, and the Culprit is out walking the streets again, i.e. - "Redbull Grandson"..... I could go on, but we all know and are used to this.. How they can live with themselves, beats me.... Obviously non thais bribe cops too. Money is Money wherever it comes from .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khunpa Posted October 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2014 To me personally, it will have no effect. I am here because of my family, the weather, the people and the reasonable costs of living. We have always known the police was corrupt. Nothing new or surprising about that and the police arresting two burmese guys was of course expected. However, the case has made me think deeper about Thailand's future, which I must admit makes me worry. I truly believed that the coup and General would change things, but I can see now that everything is just same same. I also see that real and fast changes are basically impossible, due to the overwhelming corruption level in this country. What I foresee is this country soon being hit hard financially, due to e.g. lack of tourists and foreign investments, household debts, corruption and a housing bubble. It has already started, but will be much worse in my opinion. With the mentality of the Thai-people (constant focus on only fast and easy money), this is going to hit many people really hard and be a "wake-up" call for real changes in this country. The current system and mentality here is rotten to the core and has been so for many years. I believe that this case has shown that to the world and other cases will come in the near future. The only thing that really will change this country is it going down financially and lots of time for the general mentality to change. I feel sorry for the Thai-people. Because, by them being passive, naive, greedy, selfish and making corruption a natural part of life, they themselves have ruined what was on of the best holiday places on earth. And in the meantime other surrounding countries have learnt how to treat tourists and foreigners in a good way, so they come back. Thailand has unfortunately lost that. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costas2008 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 OP, if I can tolerate all the other things and customs that are bothering me and I'm still happy living in Thailand, the Koh Tao murders will not change my mind. I feel sad and cheated and wish things were better and Thailand grow up, as they say, but I doubt that I will see any change in my lifetime. Hope this happens for the future generations and for the good of Thailand the country I still love and enjoy being here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) No effect to me as long as I can get a valid visa. But I would never visit KohTao. Edited October 8, 2014 by balo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chrisinth Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I have been through with Thailand for a while now. A hotel wanted 10k baht for supposed "damage" I caused to a room (a drawer wouldn't open and the ice cube tray in freezer was cracked) I lost my temper and insisted the manager call the police. The police listened to both sides and said I owed 20k baht - 10k for hotel, and 10k fee to BIB for settling the dispute. When I protested I was threatened with "Monkey House". I came to my senses and offered 5k. Cops took it and left. Maybe you hadn't been here long enough. Just sayin'....................... Edited October 8, 2014 by chrisinth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Bad crap happens anywhere so no this doesn't sway me. Someone just chopped up and partially cooked his partner in Brisbane, but that doesn't mean I will never go to or live in Brisbane. It's a sad event and maybe mismanaged but it doesn't happen everyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Hill Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 The murder itself has no effect on my decision to be based here. I have made a conscious effort to avoid situations that might lead to contact with the RTP, though. Deliberately avoiding that left turn onto Asoke Montri from Sukhumvit when in a taxi at night, for example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benalibina Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 A thank you is in order for 1st of all the Mods by keeping this thread open and 2ndly for the members of this forum who posted and stayed on topic. Kapom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 As Roo says come high season it will be all but forgotten apart from the family. People will still come on holiday and to learn to dive and always will. You think so, Take a look at Pattaya. Some people do not forget, you pay for good publicity, but bad publicity costs millions and cost nothing..to acquire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Off topic post deleted again. This topic is about if you would still visit Koh Tao, not a discussion of ongoing police action . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I'll go against the grain and say it has changed my opinion. I've seen a lot in my time but this whole thing has been an utter disgrace, such that I would be out of here were it not for the effect it'd have on others. Yes it happens everywhere and things get forgotten/return to normal, but the stink around this case is palpable; of innocent, slain people then treated like meat in the name of face. After all the lies, rubbish talk from the PM and knowing that if you step on the wrong toes or accidentally make some perp lose face it can all go wrong for you, living here just seems all the more unpleasant. I've always known this of course, but this case just brings it to the fore. I dunno, perhaps I'm a hypocrite for staying on, but two things I won't be doing again: Koh Tao and recommending people visit this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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