Hi,

I searched a lot, but couldn't find any similar cases for embassies in Europe. For the past years I have travelled to Thailand quite often, always on normal tourist visas issued in the Netherlands.

I have a company in Holland which basically runs itself so all I do there is train muay thai, or study some thai and visit my girlfriend who works there at the moment, all of which I told the Consulate when they asked me about my income and reason for staying.

As I now wanted to visit Thailand again, I applied for a triple entry at the Consulate in Amsterdam but this was denied based on the fact that I had prior history of back-to-back visas in my passport (I have history of back-to-back visa runs in my passport since October 2013 until 2 months ago when I came back to the Netherlands). Even a double entry was denied, I could only get a single 60day entry.

I had proof of a single ticket to Thailand, and a return ticket to Bali (for one month) in december, and a travel plan for after, because I was planning to stay there until the beginning of June so its normal not to book every single ticket for well over a year. I asked what he needed of me (proof of income, more tickets, or anything else), but he simply said "none", you can only get a single entry. So he didn't really care at all about income, tickets, simply the back-to-back entries from earlier this year. Now I'm not sure I can simply get a double entry in Bali in December and is the Dutch Consulate is just being very strict, or this is a global policy now being enforced and are more people being denied double/triple entry visas?

I didn't expect this at all so I guess I was kind of surprised when they started asking me questions, so perhaps it's simply a matter of their impression that I'm some sort of "bad guy" doing back-to-back visas without a good reason? then again, what reason do you need to be a tourist??

Edited October 13, 201411 yr by RbrtRbrt

Yet they say there is no crackdown

It is nothing really new. See this notice which the Thai consulate in Helsinki, Finland put up in their premises in September 2009:

It is nothing really new. See this notice which the Thai consulate in Helsinki, Finland put up in their premises in September 2009:

Of course it has never been allowed to stay on Tourist visas for other purposes such as working, but then why not ask for some further proof of income, or whatever they would require? The feeling I got from him was simply that he was dead set at denying anything more than 1 entry based on back-to-back entries earlier this year. I literally asked him what do you need from me, and he literally answered "nothing".

Edited October 13, 201411 yr by RbrtRbrt

He did not want to take a risk.

In Laos (Vientiane and Savannakhet), you should be able to get a double-entry tourist visa without any problem. If you get them back-to-back, it may be useful to show evidence that you are living in Thailand on money brought in from abroad, eg a savings account with corresponding entries (incoming remittances from abroad, cash withdrawals in Thailand)

You can get 3 entry tourist visa at the consulate in Bali. They will want to see tickets out for each entry. They can be 90 days apart.

You can get 3 entry tourist visa at the consulate in Bali. They will want to see tickets out for each entry. They can be 90 days apart.

I thought there was some recent news that Bali no longer issued "triples"?

You can get 3 entry tourist visa at the consulate in Bali. They will want to see tickets out for each entry. They can be 90 days apart.

I thought there was some recent news that Bali no longer issued "triples"?

That was a false report. It has been confirmed by the consulate that they still do 3 entry visas.

You can get 3 entry tourist visa at the consulate in Bali. They will want to see tickets out for each entry. They can be 90 days apart.

I thought there was some recent news that Bali no longer issued "triples"?

That was a false report. It has been confirmed by the consulate that they still do 3 entry visas.

Noted, thanks!

That was a false report. It has been confirmed by the consulate that they still do 3 entry visas.

Okay, but since the Dutch Consulate was so careful issuing their Multiple entry Visa now, how sure can I be this Bali visa won't get rejected at Suva anyway? Seems so weird europe would have to be more strict than asian consulates

Edited October 14, 201411 yr by RbrtRbrt

That was a false report. It has been confirmed by the consulate that they still do 3 entry visas.

Okay, but since the Dutch Consulate was so careful issuing their Multiple entry Visa now, how sure can I be this Bali visa won't get rejected at Suva anyway? Seems so weird europe would have to be more strict than asian consulates

What would make you think they would deny you entry if you had the visa.

What one consulate does in Europe does not mean it would be world wide policy or even should be. Every embassy and consulate sets their own requirements.

What would make you think they would deny you entry if you had the visa.

What one consulate does in Europe does not mean it would be world wide policy or even should be. Every embassy and consulate sets their own requirements.

I would assume that they base their requirements on a policy that is made and updated by the Thai government, and by that reasoning I would think that even if you got a visa you can still be refused based on that policy. But perhaps logical thinking is not the way to go with these kind of things.

What would make you think they would deny you entry if you had the visa.

What one consulate does in Europe does not mean it would be world wide policy or even should be. Every embassy and consulate sets their own requirements.

I would assume that they base their requirements on a policy that is made and updated by the Thai government, and by that reasoning I would think that even if you got a visa you can still be refused based on that policy. But perhaps logical thinking is not the way to go with these kind of things.

Thai immigration and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are two separate entities. One issues the visas and the other just looks that it is a valid visa and stamps you in for the amount of time allowed is basically how it works.

The consulates and embassies go by basic guidelines but are allowed to add additional requirements.

Here are the MFA requirements you will see no mention of having a history of previous visas or exempt entries. http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/123/15398-Issuance-of-Visa.html