Manchester City

[Bredbury Blue]

I think its because the average gooner has the brains of a monkey and only started attending games when the new stadium was finished.

You know what i'm talking about, the Emirates faithful, championed by their talisman, Piers Morgan, that want Professor Powderpuff sacked.

Ahh yes Nick Hornby's bum chum.

Both more plastic than, er, plastic.

Good book though. It was about winning the league after an 18 year wait.

Yours should be a belter (if it ever happens).

Keep the faith Carmine, maybe you too will be lucky enough to be bought by someone like Sheik Mansour (bless him) or Roman A.

[nev]

I read that book many years ago, I used to buy a few books to take to the village to read, are you seriously saying Beckham was overrated And only got where he is by his looks?.

[Bredbury Blue]

I read that book many years ago, I used to buy a few books to take to the village to read, are you seriously saying Beckham was overrated And only got where he is by his looks?.

Partially correct. I am seriously saying Beckham was overrated. I am NOT saying he only got where he is from his looks...read my post again. ..I'm saying his looks helped him enormously (had he been ugly, his career would not have been goldenballs).

[nev]

I read that book many years ago, I used to buy a few books to take to the village to read, are you seriously saying Beckham was overrated And only got where he is by his looks?.

Partially correct. I am seriously saying Beckham was overrated. I am NOT saying he only got where he is from his looks...read my post again. ..I'm saying his looks helped him enormously (had he been ugly, his career would not have been goldenballs).

So if you think Beckham is overrated what about Paul scholes.?

[alfieconn]

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Interesting that you read a book about City. The only one I've ever read about Utd was Rednose's first one; I've got a free pdf of his 2nd one and a free copy from someone years ago of Beckham's book but can't bring myself round to reading them (not a fan of Beckham...if he'd looked like Luke Chadwick (Plug) I seriously doubt he'd have got have the chances that came his way).

I'm not a Beckham either but that's got to be one of most ridiculous statements iv'e read for a long time

[smokie36]

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Interesting that you read a book about City. The only one I've ever read about Utd was Rednose's first one; I've got a free pdf of his 2nd one and a free copy from someone years ago of Beckham's book but can't bring myself round to reading them (not a fan of Beckham...if he'd looked like Luke Chadwick (Plug) I seriously doubt he'd have got have the chances that came his way).

I'm not a Beckham either but that's got to be one of most ridiculous statements iv'e read for a long time

Luke Chadwick has lovely eyebrows....shame he's a crap footballer.

[carmine]

I read that book many years ago, I used to buy a few books to take to the village to read, are you seriously saying Beckham was overrated And only got where he is by his looks?.

Partially correct. I am seriously saying Beckham was overrated. I am NOT saying he only got where he is from his looks...read my post again. ..I'm saying his looks helped him enormously (had he been ugly, his career would not have been goldenballs).

So if you think Beckham is overrated what about Paul scholes.?

Scholes was the real deal in every sense. Bar tackling of course. And hardly likely to make the front cover of a fashion mag.

However Beckham, the polar opposite. Good looking, ever so nice but dim marketing phenomem. Every club he plays for guaranteed to make fortunes in shirt sales and everything else embraced by the walking advertising board.

But, then theres Beckham the player. One of the best crossers of the ball and free kick specialists in the game. Can't head the ball, can't tackle, can't pass players (thats right Sven, you stupid <deleted>) can't dribble and lacks any real pace.

Bar crossing and free kicks Beckham was a massively over rated player, Scholes outstanding.

[carmine]

I think its because the average gooner has the brains of a monkey and only started attending games when the new stadium was finished.

You know what i'm talking about, the Emirates faithful, championed by their talisman, Piers Morgan, that want Professor Powderpuff sacked.

Ahh yes Nick Hornby's bum chum.

Both more plastic than, er, plastic.

Good book though. It was about winning the league after an 18 year wait.

Yours should be a belter (if it ever happens).

Keep the faith Carmine, maybe you too will be lucky enough to be bought by someone like Sheik Mansour (bless him) or Roman A.

You really are so self conscious about City buying the league title aren't you. Stop being such a baby

And no, given my preference i wouldn't want my club being funded by the likes. I've said that before too. Why do i have to keep repeating myself to you? Try to keep up.

Don't you miss playing other epl sides on a level playing field or do you get some giddy pleasure beating clubs who have an annual budget thats less than Yaya's salary? Doesn't it hurt when as soon as you play one of the elite you get mugged off like rank amateurs?

No thanks Mr Blue, you can keep yer arab bucks and the despotic owners that flew in with them.

[Chicog]

Cue more passive aggressive posts about how they hate FFP only because "they care about the other clubs".

[smokie36]

I read that book many years ago, I used to buy a few books to take to the village to read, are you seriously saying Beckham was overrated And only got where he is by his looks?.

Partially correct. I am seriously saying Beckham was overrated. I am NOT saying he only got where he is from his looks...read my post again. ..I'm saying his looks helped him enormously (had he been ugly, his career would not have been goldenballs).

So if you think Beckham is overrated what about Paul scholes.?

Scholes was the real deal in every sense. Bar tackling of course. And hardly likely to make the front cover of a fashion mag.

However Beckham, the polar opposite. Good looking, ever so nice but dim marketing phenomem. Every club he plays for guaranteed to make fortunes in shirt sales and everything else embraced by the walking advertising board.

But, then theres Beckham the player. One of the best crossers of the ball and free kick specialists in the game. Can't head the ball, can't tackle, can't pass players (thats right Sven, you stupid <deleted>) can't dribble and lacks any real pace.

Bar crossing and free kicks Beckham was a massively over rated player, Scholes outstanding.

Disagree. ...Beckham lost what pace he had early....maybe 24-25 but he used to get the byline crosses in then.

Less effective overall but worked his azz off on the free kicks and on his midfield game.

Last season at Man Yoo and on he got worse I would agree....wasted largely imho at Madrid.

[mrbojangles]

Don't you miss playing other epl sides on a level playing field

Expected better informed posts from you Carms. Since when has there ever been a level playing field in the Prem? It has always had at least 3 tiers and each of them is mostly associated with how much money they have spent. BTW, Man U fielded the most expensive team ever last year. We are just trying to compete with the top tier in the prem.

beating clubs who have an annual budget thats less than Yaya's salary?

Why pick up on Yaya's salary? He isn't even the top paid prem player. At least Rooney and Di Maria are on more than him.

[Bredbury Blue]

I read that book many years ago, I used to buy a few books to take to the village to read, are you seriously saying Beckham was overrated And only got where he is by his looks?.

Partially correct. I am seriously saying Beckham was overrated. I am NOT saying he only got where he is from his looks...read my post again. ..I'm saying his looks helped him enormously (had he been ugly, his career would not have been goldenballs).

So if you think Beckham is overrated what about Paul scholes.?

Scholes was the real deal in every sense. Bar tackling of course. And hardly likely to make the front cover of a fashion mag.

However Beckham, the polar opposite. Good looking, ever so nice but dim marketing phenomem. Every club he plays for guaranteed to make fortunes in shirt sales and everything else embraced by the walking advertising board.

But, then theres Beckham the player. One of the best crossers of the ball and free kick specialists in the game. Can't head the ball, can't tackle, can't pass players (thats right Sven, you stupid <deleted>) can't dribble and lacks any real pace.

Bar crossing and free kicks Beckham was a massively over rated player, Scholes outstanding.

Pleased to see that not only did somebody get my point, they went on to improve upon it.

Edited June 29, 2015 by Bredbury Blue

[Bredbury Blue]

Ahh yes Nick Hornby's bum chum.

Both more plastic than, er, plastic.

Good book though. It was about winning the league after an 18 year wait.

Yours should be a belter (if it ever happens).

Keep the faith Carmine, maybe you too will be lucky enough to be bought by someone like Sheik Mansour (bless him) or Roman A.

You really are so self conscious about City buying the league title aren't you. Stop being such a baby:rolleyes:

And no, given my preference i wouldn't want my club being funded by the likes. I've said that before too. Why do i have to keep repeating myself to you? Try to keep up.

Don't you miss playing other epl sides on a level playing field or do you get some giddy pleasure beating clubs who have an annual budget thats less than Yaya's salary? Doesn't it hurt when as soon as you play one of the elite you get mugged off like rank amateurs?

No thanks Mr Blue, you can keep yer arab bucks and the despotic owners that flew in with them.

Not sure what your 1st para is about; curious though why you take a pop at my comment and not Chicog's...guess it's a cockaknee thing eh.

Not sure about your 2nd paragraph, for us, we've nothing but good to say and think about our owner. Long live the sheik!

Level playing field? Tell me when exactly was the last time any tier of english football was a level playing field. That's ridiculous.

Does it hurt when we get beat by the elite? You have to be talking about European teams like Barca and Bayern (they're the only ones to teach us a footballing lesson, and no, it was a footballing treat to play against them), as it can't be english teams you're referring to during the past 4 seasons.

Edited June 29, 2015 by mrbojangles
Fixed quote

[Chicog]

Does it hurt when we get beat by the elite?

Not at all. Considering how much it upsets the big-spending Arab playboy, we find it intensely amusing.

[Bredbury Blue]

Does it hurt when we get beat by the elite?

Not at all. Considering how much it upsets the big-spending Arab playboy, we find it intensely amusing.

Another nonsense post chicog. How can you possibly know if it upsets the sheik? You've no idea, just as we City fans have no idea as he keeps himself pretty much out of the public eye. Better to post lad when you've something worthwhile to post rather than post nonsense and reinforce every bodies perception of you - as a TROLL and irritant.

[carmine]

I read that book many years ago, I used to buy a few books to take to the village to read, are you seriously saying Beckham was overrated And only got where he is by his looks?.

Lets say he made the absolute best out of a limited skill set.

One of the most professional players you could imagine. Great free kick specialist, great crosser of the ball. And thats it chaps.

World class players have all or most of the other attributes he did not. Becks was world class in free kicks, crossing and shirt sales.

And sorry to disagree with Smokie but even in his younger days Beckham never made a habit on passing players and crossing from the line. the only left back he could go pass regularly was a lamp post.

Always seems like a top bloke though, but, right out of the Harry Enfield manual.

Anyway, strayed a little off topic,.......back to FFP.

Edited June 30, 2015 by carmine

[mrbojangles]

Anyway, strayed a little off topic

A "little" off topic. Talking about Beckham on the City thread

back to FFP.

As you know, the court case is a slow process, so nothing further to report for now but rest assured we'll update you as soon as there is something to report

[Chicog]

Does it hurt when we get beat by the elite?

Not at all. Considering how much it upsets the big-spending Arab playboy, we find it intensely amusing.

Another nonsense post chicog. How can you possibly know if it upsets the sheik? You've no idea, just as we City fans have no idea as he keeps himself pretty much out of the public eye. Better to post lad when you've something worthwhile to post rather than post nonsense and reinforce every bodies perception of you - as a TROLL and irritant.

Working with the royals as I have for 20+ years, I know how they work.

He wants to win the CL so he can cock a snook at his Qatari rivals.

I bet they sent him a few wind up texts when Barca won it.

I've already covered this Bredders, try and keep up.

P.S. He keeps himself out of the public eye because if his people really knew how he squanders their money, they'd go ape.

Edited June 30, 2015 by Chicog

[carmine]

Anyway, strayed a little off topic

A "little" off topic. Talking about Beckham on the City thread

back to FFP.

As you know, the court case is a slow process, so nothing further to report for now but rest assured we'll update you as soon as there is something to report

I'm salivating at the prospect of that!!

[Chicog]

Moved this here since you're the only ones worried about it and all.

UEFA’s Financial Fair Play regulations have been expanded and strengthened with the intention of attracting new investors as well as ensuring financial stability.

The executive committee of European football’s governing body convened in Prague on Monday for a meeting which touched upon on a variety of subjects, including the 2015 edition of its Club Licensing and FFP regulations.

Large losses have been reduced since FFP’s implementation three years ago and on Monday a number of tweaks were voted through - the most substantial of which being the consideration of voluntary agreements to tackle the restructuring of clubs. Clubs failing FFP are usually offered settlement agreements but the new rules, in force from July 1, allow the Club Financial Control Body, under certain circumstances, to agree voluntary agreements with proactive clubs who come forward regarding a future breach.

It allows clubs to conform with the FFP philosophy while leaving room for them to invest and grow at the same time as preventing gambling on success - a development that pleases UEFA president Michel Platini.

“The new regulations are an expansion and a strengthening of financial fair play,” he said. “The overall objectives of financial fair play remain the same. We are just evolving from a period of austerity to one where we can offer more opportunities for sustainable growth and development.”

Under the new FFP rules, voluntary agreement applications would have to be submitted by December 31 of the preceding year, with funds committed in advance and guaranteed over the agreement period. A plausible and conservative business plan demonstrating break-even compliance by the end of the regime is another requirement, so too a number of assurances over the future stability.

Those competing in UEFA competitions already fulfilling the break-even requirement are eligible to apply, as are those out of such competitions but holding a valid UEFA licence. Clubs that have undergone an external change of ownership are also eligible to apply, but those that been under a settlement agreement or voluntary agreement within the last three years are not. UEFA general secretary Gianni Infantino hopes the changes will help increase competition, while safeguarding the financial stability of European football.

“We are sure that these new rules will encourage investors to invest in European football because European football is the best product in the world when it comes to club football,” he said. “One of the things that annoyed us a little bit whilst reading some of these reactions which were wrong we thought but still they said that Financial Fair Play actual hinders or limits the way which investors want to invest.

“Now, we have always said we want investors in football - of course, we want good investors in football. “We didn’t want and still don’t want people coming to football promising things because we have sadly had cases in many clubs in many countries - this is not an issue for England, for Italy or for France, it is really across the European game.

We had people who came who promised a lot of things and perhaps have gone bankrupt. “We have to build on the strength of Financial Fair Play and we have to look into how we can make investment possible, but with reasonable, sustainable, appropriate guarantees. “But whatever can be done to make sure the competitive balance of Europe is improved even more, that clubs can maybe retain some players, even invest in new players in order to get some results and generate more revenue. “We want to move from vicious circle that we had some years ago to a virtuous circle.

It is a fair argument to say ‘If you want me to improve revenue, I first have to invest something’. That’s a fair argument. “You can invest something and with investment you can generate more revenue so we bring more clubs to compete at the top table.”

[Bredbury Blue]

Does it hurt when we get beat by the elite?

Not at all. Considering how much it upsets the big-spending Arab playboy, we find it intensely amusing.

Another nonsense post chicog. How can you possibly know if it upsets the sheik? You've no idea, just as we City fans have no idea as he keeps himself pretty much out of the public eye. Better to post lad when you've something worthwhile to post rather than post nonsense and reinforce every bodies perception of you - as a TROLL and irritant.

Working with the royals as I have for 20+ years, I know how they work.

He wants to win the CL so he can cock a snook at his Qatari rivals.

I bet they sent him a few wind up texts when Barca won it.

I've already covered this Bredders, try and keep up.

P.S. He keeps himself out of the public eye because if his people really knew how he squanders their money, they'd go ape.

Loved your first paragraph, classic chicog, made me chuckle for quite a while. Keep em coming lad. Brilliant! You the man! 555

[mrbojangles]

Working with the royals as I have for 20+ years, I know how they work.

So do we bow to you or tell you to get us a cup of tea

[Chicog]

There you go MrBo, there's lots about me you don't know.

[mrbojangles]

White, no sugar then please Chiccy

[Chicog]

White, no sugar then please Chiccy

Not Asian enough for those jobs MrBo, I could probably do Butler but the hours are s--t.

[BangrakBob]

KSA UAE KUWAIT QATAR OMAN maybe, if not it must be BAHRAIN chiccers

[Chicog]

KSA UAE KUWAIT QATAR OMAN maybe, if not it must be BAHRAIN chiccers

Definitely one of them. Or more.

[mrbojangles]

Those not interested in FFP look away now

Uefa financial fair play rules that hit Manchester City were excessive and illegal, says lawyer

European football chiefs Uefa’s relaxing of financial fair play (FFP) rules is an admission that the initial regulations were “excessive and illegal”, according to the lawyer challenging them.

From today, Uefa is easing FFP so that owners of clubs can invest heavily without penalty, so long as it is on a short-term basis and with a binding pledge to break even by some specified date.

It is a move designed to combat widespread criticism that FFP rules have prevented ambitious teams, such as Manchester City, from spending their way to greater success and the revenues that follow.

Lawyer Jean-Louis Dupont, who is representing agent Daniel Striani and City supporters in a challenge to FFP’s compatibility with European law in Brussels, has accused Uefa of backtracking.

“Uefa is simply moving from an entirely illegal rule to a rule that becomes a little bit less illegal,” he said. “In competition law, any excessive restriction of the freedom of enterprise is by definition illegal. With these amendments, Uefa is therefore fully confessing that the previous version of the rule was excessive and therefore illegal under competition law.”

City were hit with a £49m penalty, spending limits and squad restrictions for exceeding the €45m maximum permitted loss for 2011-13. French champions Paris Saint-Germain received similar sanctions.

They remain bound by restrictions agreed with Uefa last summer and, under the new rules, are not yet entitled to take advantage of the greater freedom to invest.

Dupont, who helped achieve the landmark Bosman ruling which in 1995 handed out-of-contract players freedom of movement, says that is unfair, and warned that it too could be challenged in court.

“We are particularly puzzled about the fact that, according to Uefa, some clubs will not immediately benefit from the adopted amendments,” he added. “At first sight, this is absolutely discriminatory. Our clients reserve the right to inject this issue into the proceedings.”

Dupont landed a blow last week when the Court of First Instance in Brussels ruled that Uefa should not implement a planned tightening of its allowable losses under FFP from €15m to €10m a year.

It also asked the European Court of Justice to examine whether FFP was by its nature illegal. Uefa appealed the decision, thus suspending the verdict, and insisted that it expects the Supreme Court to uphold FFP.

[Bredbury Blue]

There were reports at the start of the summer that Silva had flown to the USA for an operation on an ankle problem that has plagued him in recent years.

But that was quickly dismissed by City, who said the little midfield maestro was on holiday in Spain.

[Bredbury Blue]

Valencia have completed the £23.8million signing of Alvaro Negredo from City. With contract dates running until June 30, Negredo was one of five City players whose association with the club came to an end today.James Milner officially became a Liverpool player, Micah Richards is an Aston Villa man, and Scott Sinclair, Matija Nastasic and Negredo all saw loan deals turn permanent.