jdinasia Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) That the RTP don't know who this kid in the CCTV is simply shows how incompetent the whole investigation has been. They knew who it was on 23rd September. both suspects were captured by CCTV cameras and the police have gathered enough evidence to implicate them in the murders. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/one-tourist-murder-suspect-now-arrested-another-run/ They had suspects before that and after.You knew the meaning of the word 'exculpatory', right? Edited October 31, 2014 by jdinasia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms22 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) it is so obvious what's happening Edited October 31, 2014 by cms22 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamahele Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I don't know who committed this crime but find doubt in the theory that those in custody did only because of the botched job the police performed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I will say again....for about the 5th or 6th time, police can kick in the doors of a bar & demand everybody piss in a bottle to test for drugs. I'm no forensic expert, but I'd wager there is lots of DNA in a urine sample. They should have kicked in this guy's door & said there were reports of drug use in his apartment & made him pee in a bottle. That's not very honest, but under what precedent do they raid bars & force people to give urine samples? WHY oh WHY, has it taken weeks upon weeks to get DNA from this guy? What's to say the cops didn't swab the inside of an elephant's mouth and swap that out for Nomsad Worat Numbnut's DNA? Anybody who has ever had any dealing with the BiB knows they can be bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Woraphan, who was also briefly considered a potential suspect in the case, has threatened to press libel charges against anyone who attempts to link him or any of his family members to the killing of the two Britons." There goes 90% of the Thaivisa membership!! Add to that the CCA violations.. But I doubt that they will go after foreigners.Yes because Kookyapooky justanotherfarangAre names you can sue eh? Would the real slim shady please stand up!! USA records, email addresses.. Do you think records would not be turned over if a court order was issued? And people register with the likes of sham69@gmail nothing like narrowing that down to a few Billion people eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think the saddest thing is people don't even realize how out there they sound and even go so far as submitting proof through a link that clearly states technology is not currently available to determine a person by their walk and certainly the facebook morons not using such technology and ignoring the fact that such idiotic internet detective work is not needs as it has been investigated and confirmed the kid wasn't on the island and they have matching dna to the two suspects in custody and this kid now has volunteered his dna in hopes it will stop such lunatic gossip and rumor based on idiocy. From the link provided above ... But despite more than three decades of research, using gait analysis as a biometric has never taken off. Until now, perhaps. Recent advances in the accuracy of automated gait recognition suggest the technology could soon form the basis for a new generation of security systems. Still you make it sound like it would be impossible to match someone based on walking style,, while researchers believe it's like a fingerprint... How many people have been convicted based on gait analysis? How many on fingerprints? By the way, how many murders have these anonymous Columbos at CSI LA solved? I think you know the answers to those questions already.... but what is your point? The point is what is the point of pushing unproven theories coming from unproven sources in support of mere speculation? I don't think that would lead to a better understanding of the situation/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 During my Mil days when describing a person we used a format that's was A to G and the G stood for Gait, dismiss it all you want it's still I used to this day when describing a person of interest and it is relevant too, as it's just another thing to narrow down suspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecee10 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 What a load of ball ocks. The system's credibility is shot to bits. There is no trust in the integrity of the DNA sampling and testing. The spin doctors are out in force, attempting to head off the backlash that will inevitably happen when the Burmese guys are found guilty. It's all so disgusting and reprehensible. A real affront to the notion of fairness and justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Black Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 So if in your own country your family was accussed and bullied on social media and every attempt you made to prove your innocence was twisted into another reason of guilt . Why would you do ?. He is young , he is Thai and he is rich.... For many that alone must make him guilty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFong Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 So if in your own country your family was accussed and bullied on social media and every attempt you made to prove your innocence was twisted into another reason of guilt . Why would you do ?. He is young , he is Thai and he is rich.... For many that alone must make him guilty... if he was guilty, in any real crime family, he would have already been "taken care" of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfalfa19 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 it is so obvious what's happening Yes, even Ray Charles could see it, not only was he blind, but he's dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Woraphan, who was also briefly considered a potential suspect in the case, has threatened to press libel charges against anyone who attempts to link him or any of his family members to the killing of the two Britons."There goes 90% of the Thaivisa membership!! Add to that the CCA violations.. But I doubt that they will go after foreigners.Yes because Kookyapooky justanotherfarangAre names you can sue eh? Would the real slim shady please stand up!! USA records, email addresses.. Do you think records would not be turned over if a court order was issued? And people register with the likes of sham69@gmail nothing like narrowing that down to a few Billion people eh? Sorry. Auto correct. IP addresses. They tracked down Mr. Catch Me If You Can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 So if in your own country your family was accussed and bullied on social media and every attempt you made to prove your innocence was twisted into another reason of guilt . Why would you do ?. He is young , he is Thai and he is rich.... For many that alone must make him guilty... if he was guilty, in any real crime family, he would have already been "taken care" of Not an answer to the question posed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Black Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think whoever is behind CSI LA should be very nervous . And rightfully so..you cant just be accusing people on social media of being implicated in murders..Not just this Thai family but the Scottish guy and a few others. No other civilized country would allow this behavior... The people behind CSI LA should be held accountable .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/one-tourist-murder-suspect-now-arrested-another-run/ Wow ,, I have completely missed this... He is the brother of a village headman in Koh Tao. He was arrested after evidence which police collected were examined and proved he was involved, he said. He also said another suspect is also a son of that village headman. But he has already to Bangkok. He said both suspects were captured by CCTV cameras and the police have gathered enough evidence to implicate them in the murders. "Wow ,, I have completely missed this... " How much more have you missed? It would certainly explain some of your posts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> The local village headman on a small island says jump and half of Thailand including senior police say 'yes sir, how high sir'. A nice example of one of things that needs reform. Control / take away the power of influential people. The village headman says he will sue anybody who discredits his family. I note he's' not saying anything about others who are possibly being discredited. A sign of good leadership (village or otherwise) would be to espouse values etc., which apply broadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richusa Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Woraphan, who was also briefly considered a potential suspect in the case, has threatened to press libel charges against anyone who attempts to link him or any of his family members to the killing of the two Britons." There goes 90% of the Thaivisa membership!! -------------- More like 98% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467367354 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Unless the UK gets a self taken sample and compare it with the body they have, it all means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughben Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 So how could anyone verify the actual DNA found at the crime scene would be the same DNA that would be given to an outside body to independently test the DNA samples? Who would trust this now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catweazle Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 All that money can buy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think whoever is behind CSI LA should be very nervous . And rightfully so..you cant just be accusing people on social media of being implicated in murders..Not just this Thai family but the Scottish guy and a few others. No other civilized country would allow this behavior... The people behind CSI LA should be held accountable .. You think this country is civilized? CSILA have got rather a lot of evidence - they are not just picking someone by chance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catweazle Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) Yeah, right - what happened to this one? http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/one-tourist-murder-suspect-now-arrested-another-run/ I strongly suggest that all the "Ohhh, CSI LA guy should be very afraid now to read the following, published on Sept. 23 on Thai PBS carefully: The police have arrested a suspect in the murder of two British tourists in Koh Tao and are still hunting for a second suspect who has escaped into Bangkok. Eighth Region Police Command commissioner Pol Lt-Gen Panya Mamen identified the first suspect as Mon. He is the brother of a village headman in Koh Tao. He was arrested after evidence which police collected were examined and proved he was involved, he said. He also said another suspect is also a son of that village headman. But he has already to Bangkok. He said both suspects were captured by CCTV cameras and the police have gathered enough evidence to implicate them in the murders. He said the southern police were coordinating with the metropolitan police to hunt him down, and expected to apprehend him today. The southern police chief also assured the public that there was no arrest of scapegoats in this murder case as it now is a focal attention of the world. He also dismissed any suggestion of local mafias or influential people that could twist the investigation with promise that local influence would pose no obstacle to the police investigation. Instead the police will eliminate all these mafias, he said. Meanwhile a police source said the police are also looking into the cooperation of those who helped to arrange the suspect to escape. They also will be arrested. Any questions? Edited October 31, 2014 by catweazle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePhuket1970 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Shortly after they announce that Nomsod DNA not match its time for scotland yard to pull the joker card. I hope they have 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePhuket1970 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Yeah, right - what happened to this one? http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/one-tourist-murder-suspect-now-arrested-another-run/ Thats the famous september 23rd when all shifted into the scapegoat case. Mobile calls that day would be very interesting.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Having just spent yet another hour or several at my local nick, I have just two words for this country. 'No' and 'Hope'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pendingo Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Here's the dialogue between father and son: "Ok son it's now safe for you to go and give your DNA sample. I've spoken to our boys in the RTP," "Thanks Dad." Totally laughable as if anyone including the majority of the Thai public is going to believe this charade. Refusing to give a DNA sample in the first instance makes him a prime suspect regardless of whether he committed the crime or not. This ain't going away any time soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 well seems that the DNA does not match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post catweazle Posted October 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) I hope everyone fighting for bringing up the truth will continue now even stronger after the ridiculous threats! Menawhile I'd say a good 90% of Thai people and foreigners in forums worldwide are not only doubting the official story but are CONVINCED that this murder investigation is a complete stitch-up. I have never been more ashamed to call this country my home than in the past weeks since they found poor Hannah and David... Thailand by now has lost all credibility if there ever was any left. Hopefully all people involved in the cover up will face their appropriate punishment some day, best when they don't expect it and think all is ok and long gone... Then, BAM!!! something happens in Singapore or the UK that turns the case upside down again... The true murders are nailed, the patsies released, while the true culprits are put in front of an international court and sentenced to death by lethal injection. Might be a pipe dream, but it feels comfy to hold on to something, and might the chances be as brittle and flimsy as a butterfly wing... Edited October 31, 2014 by catweazle 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 That's it then. Game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooner Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think whoever is behind CSI LA should be very nervous . And rightfully so..you cant just be accusing people on social media of being implicated in murders..Not just this Thai family but the Scottish guy and a few others. No other civilized country would allow this behavior... The people behind CSI LA should be held accountable .. They're are based in the US. Don't think the US will hand him/her over cause some island chief is upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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