Eneukman Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I think the OP is overlooking an important place of extra capacity. What about the front seat ... next to the driver? There, I know that some Drivers like the 'larger' Farang passenger because, being forward of the centre of gravity, it helps balance out those in the back ... thus extra carrying capacity. Anyone usually ride up front with the Driver? Usually a larger passenger? Anyone? 6 seated on both sides of the back seems to be the norm at night heading towards Jomtien though at other times, they may leave with 5 sitting. I've sat up beside the driver when heading back to Jomtien at night a few times, usually with a girl. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve73 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 average weight for person = 75kg Number of passengers = 15 75kg x 15 = 1125kg now someone look up the load capacity for the baht bus (might have to subtract fabricated tray weight estimate 200kg) Most standard pick-ups have a nominal load capacity of 1 tonne... so your 15 passengers as above is well within this (for Thailand at least...??!!); remember also that the ST's are not usually travelling at anywhere near their rated speed. In Rayong I often see normal pick-ups packed with standing construction/other thai workers - even on the lowered rear-flap, frequently around 20-30 persons... Once in Chantaburi, I saw one that had around 40 packed in (although they mostly appeared to be Cambodian, and therefore slightly smaller....still 40 at 50kgs is about double the SWL... Obviously depends on the load being well distributed - a couple of well placed "standard Pattaya" farangs on the rear step of an otherwise empty ST can make the steering a bit light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanferdi Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 If the front wheels rise and lose contact with the road then 1 passenger is asked to get off or sit on the bonnet (hood) for better balance. Edit to add.... A few years back I actually saw the front wheels rise from the road when a baht bus pulled away due to passenger load. Was in Rayong not Pattaya. I would have loved to see it... pity no pictures.... "fly me to the moon" or "Rayong BBW - Baht Bus Wheelie" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I suppose it's better than in India where the roof is considered available seating....don't have to get on if one doesn't want to. I see many Farangs who seem to enjoy hanging off the back, I think it makes them feel like John Wayne jumping onto a stagecoach (does me anyway) and it's a great opp. to show off my youthful exilerance in front of the girlfriend....Just joking,............. Never use them if at all possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enufsaid Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Haydn, and nothing to do with you. This us Thailand & their rules. Even if u complained to relevant authority ud probably get charged for being in it & causing it to be over loaded . If u learn nothing else about Thailand , remember this, simply because you're a foreigner , it's your fault if anything bad happens while ur on it or near it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petevandell Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 The road between Tong Sala & Haad Rin on Koh Phangan is mountainous/treacherous yet the songtaews refuse to move with less than 16 in the back during the full moon period. HTH 16 what? Sheep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macapie Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Minivans the same, I've seen one full and he still stops for more, who have to stand stooped for their whole journey . CRAZY EH?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaidDown Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 If the front wheels rise and lose contact with the road then 1 passenger is asked to get off or sit on the bonnet (hood) for better balance. Edit to add.... A few years back I actually saw the front wheels rise from the road when a baht bus pulled away due to passenger load. Was in Rayong not Pattaya. I would have loved to see it... pity no pictures.... "fly me to the moon" or "Rayong BBW - Baht Bus Wheelie" The front wheels were off the ground only briefly as he pulled away, overloaded + low gear + bit of wellie = torque. Seen many overloaded songthaew since but none with front wheels rising. sorry no pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicowoodduck Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I've had 22 folks on the baht bus from Jomtien more than once!!!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 The load is based on maximizing the baht and I don't blame them, but is it safe? Clearly, no. Safe or not, one of the pleasures I have in LOS is standing on the backplate of a baht bus speeding at 60 mph, though that usually happens other places than Pattaya. Never be allowed in western nanny states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Welds are not easily broken without some high impact. It isn't possible to do proper welds wearing sunglasses or nothing. The "weld" put on our back gate fell apart because there was no proper penetration. I suspect that applies to most small job welding done by Thai so called welders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeya Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Welds are not easily broken without some high impact.It isn't possible to do proper welds wearing sunglasses or nothing. The "weld" put on our back gate fell apart because there was no proper penetration. I suspect that applies to most small job welding done by Thai so called welders.Sorry mate but your back gate welding job does not equate to every single Thai welder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Welding schmelding ... what's up with those cheap plastic baskets the Russkie men carry on the baht buses? Sent from my Lenovo S820_ROW using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chonburiram Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Welding schmelding ... what's up with those cheap plastic baskets the Russkie men carry on the baht buses? Sent from my Lenovo S820_ROW using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Trip to/from the laundry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Welding schmelding ... what's up with those cheap plastic baskets the Russkie men carry on the baht buses? Sent from my Lenovo S820_ROW using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Trip to/from the laundry? Not big enough for laundry. Something like this but more square edges: The men are carrying. Could it be pelmeni? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chonburiram Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I once saw a semitic looking guy on a big bike crashing in the back of a songtaeo on 2nd road. The bike was on the bed and the guy's head struck in the back window, dead for sure... luckily no passengers on board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chonburiram Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Welding schmelding ... what's up with those cheap plastic baskets the Russkie men carry on the baht buses? Sent from my Lenovo S820_ROW using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Trip to/from the laundry? Not big enough for laundry.Something like this but more square edges: 1-250x250.jpg The men are carrying. Could it be pelmeni? Looks more like a drowning device for small mammals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 considered safe as long as at least one foot and one hand are touching the vehicle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I don't know but regarding the baht bus, why on earth do some people call it a "BART" bus like that guy on Pattaya radio who can't even say Pattaya correctly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Search of Space Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I think the OP is overlooking an important place of extra capacity. What about the front seat ... next to the driver? There, I know that some Drivers like the 'larger' Farang passenger because, being forward of the centre of gravity, it helps balance out those in the back ... thus extra carrying capacity. Anyone usually ride up front with the Driver? Usually a larger passenger? Anyone? The wife and kids are usually in the front seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Search of Space Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 the only one who can enlighten us is our resident "baht(not bart) bus expert-MR JT... I was hoping to for some advice on Baht Bus tours of Pattaya, do you think he might have some ideas? Beach Road and Second Road tours are great fun, just 20 baht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicowoodduck Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Overload in LOS??? It only happens on any day ending in "y!" ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toenail Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Sometimes when I return by public bus from BKK to the bus station in north Pattaya, I will take the public songtaew (baht bus, 20baht) to my place along Beach Rd. (Easy for me) But whenever I see couples from Europe, Korea, Japan... arriving and jumping on this kind of public transportation (where they pack you like sardines though you have a suit case or travel bag with you) and the driver barks at you to move over more and there is no more room, I am thinking, Welcome to classy Pattaya! They have arrived in the city less than 5 minutes and already get a taste of "no rules" and "no class". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 the only one who can enlighten us is our resident "baht(not bart) bus expert-MR JT... I was hoping to for some advice on Baht Bus tours of Pattaya, do you think he might have some ideas? Beach Road and Second Road tours are great fun, just 20 baht Can be done for TEN BAHT, of course. Just saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieHaskel Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 The springs, chassis, brakes and bed are designed to safely carry how much? 500 Kilograms? Probably less. Every baht bus going over the hill into Jomtien is dangerously overloaded. Does their insurance company know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chonburiram Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 The springs, chassis, brakes and bed are designed to safely carry how much? 500 Kilograms? Probably less. Every baht bus going over the hill into Jomtien is dangerously overloaded. Does their insurance company know this? It's more, like 1000 kg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcp0761 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 The first thing comes to mind is you are thinking too much - "safety"? The speeds usually only get up to about 20-30MPH and regardless on the number of passengers, those whom are sitting-down are fairly safe. Those who are standing-up holding onto the back of the bus rails are less safe/secure. If they fall I am sure it could do damage to them.. The key is don't day-dream and don't always listen to what the driver says as he is looking at it from a financial basis. If you don't feel save, get off and take another baht bus or walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Off topic posts discussing pronunciation removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 the only one who can enlighten us is our resident "baht(not bart) bus expert-MR JT... I was hoping to for some advice on Baht Bus tours of Pattaya, do you think he might have some ideas? Beach Road and Second Road tours are great fun, just 20 baht Can be done for TEN BAHT, of course. Just saying. The 10 Baht trip sometimes includes a free Thai boxing display by the driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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