DNA results from Ko Tao village head’s son don't match traces on slain British tourists

[SteveFong]

Thank you Steve. The only conspiracy I see is the sheer number of persons who -- if the local clan folks are indeed culpable -- have viable information that they will not reveal because of intimidation, payoffs, or various and sundry other threats to their safety and/or livelihood should they come forward with such information.

As to whether the 2 in custody or the clan members or even some other heretofore unnamed group is responsible, I do not know and have never said.

Crab, you do of course know, that the tone of condscension is reserved only for the resident stone waller,

we don't know who did it,

we know who is capable of it, and we know who would think they couldl get away with it,

but one thing we all know now, with 100% degree of certainty,

these two boys will not be the scape goats and we have turned the tide on injustice

[JLCrab]

I wouldn't want to see anyone convicted of a crime that they did not commit.

People seem to think that the clan member is a psychopath totally capable of the crime and that the 2 Burmese are like a couple of choir boys. But elsewhere, the choir boys have been in fact the ones who did commit the crime.

[SteveFong]

The link to the nationmultimedia.com site has a full and comprehensive review of the case,

including the names of the Little Duck boatmates,

interestlingly, they were too high on drugs to speak to police, but they did manage to mutter that they didn't beat the two tourists to death,

hmmmm

sometimes my browser doesnt accept links,

sometimes it does

[kcirtapyelrah]

The theories on this forum are not propagated by extremists; most of us are here with a common coal, TRUTH AND JUSTICE. I can't see this going to trial, if that happens, it will make a bad situation a thousand times worse.

[SteveFong]

This is also what must be the topic of discussion at the prosecutors office

at this point, it is already very, very bad for the Thai police and the headman, who has done nothing to help the case

I would like to know about the men aboard the Little Duck, too high to speak to police, but not high enough to deny they didnt kill the tourists, I want to know if they know the headman, or Montriwat, since they may have been docked opposite his place

[JLCrab]

The theories on this forum are not propagated by extremists; most of us are here with a common coal, TRUTH AND JUSTICE. I can't see this going to trial, if that happens, it will make a bad situation a thousand times worse.

Worse even than that is that 2 young tourists from UK are murdered on a resort island in Thailand and nobody is ever arrested, prosecuted, or convicted of the crime.

[thailandchilli]

The theories on this forum are not propagated by extremists; most of us are here with a common coal, TRUTH AND JUSTICE. I can't see this going to trial, if that happens, it will make a bad situation a thousand times worse.

Worse even than that is that 2 young tourists from UK are murdered on a resort island in Thailand and nobody is ever arrested, prosecuted, or convicted of the crime.

Worse than that, the real killers and those behind them covering it all up are still free

Edited November 25, 2014 by thailandchilli

[JLCrab]

The theories on this forum are not propagated by extremists; most of us are here with a common coal, TRUTH AND JUSTICE. I can't see this going to trial, if that happens, it will make a bad situation a thousand times worse.

Worse even than that is that 2 young tourists from UK are murdered on a resort island in Thailand and nobody is ever arrested, prosecuted, or convicted of the crime.

Worse than that, the real killers and those behind them covering it all up are still free

[greenchair]

The theories on this forum are not propagated by extremists; most of us are here with a common coal, TRUTH AND JUSTICE. I can't see this going to trial, if that happens, it will make a bad situation a thousand times worse.

Worse even than that is that 2 young tourists from UK are murdered on a resort island in Thailand and nobody is ever arrested, prosecuted, or convicted of the crime.

Actually there may/possibly be

[JLCrab]

The theories on this forum are not propagated by extremists; most of us are here with a common coal, TRUTH AND JUSTICE. I can't see this going to trial, if that happens, it will make a bad situation a thousand times worse.

Worse even than that is that 2 young tourists from UK are murdered on a resort island in Thailand and nobody is ever arrested, prosecuted, or convicted of the crime.

Worse than that, the real killers and those behind them covering it all up are still free

No because if the real killers are who I think you are implying they are there will be too much pressure from those powerful interests in the region that will make the KT bungalow owners power look insignificant for that to be the case for long.

[greenchair]

The theories on this forum are not propagated by extremists; most of us are here with a common coal, TRUTH AND JUSTICE. I can't see this going to trial, if that happens, it will make a bad situation a thousand times worse.

Worse even than that is that 2 young tourists from UK are murdered on a resort island in Thailand and nobody is ever arrested, prosecuted, or convicted of the crime.

Actually there may/possibly be several who have been suspecte

[jdinasia]

I cba to dig through pages to find something you quote without citation.

Yes I guessed that would be the case, I have mentioned before how you find it difficult to face the truth, so to save you precious time..........http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Koh-Tao-police-fail-another-day-30243890.html

The article is also interesting in that it refers to the Little Duck speedboat and also confirms that the RTP were looking for 2 weapons not just the hoe

Are you really using an article from 8 days into the investigation?

Strangely you skip over the fact that they were looking at Burmese as the primary suspects at that time.

Edited November 25, 2014 by jdinasia

[jdinasia]

Double

Edited November 25, 2014 by jdinasia

[jdinasia]

The theories on this forum are not propagated by extremists; most of us are here with a common coal, TRUTH AND JUSTICE. I can't see this going to trial, if that happens, it will make a bad situation a thousand times worse.

Worse even than that is that 2 young tourists from UK are murdered on a resort island in Thailand and nobody is ever arrested, prosecuted, or convicted of the crime.

Arrests have been made. It remains to be seen if prosecution will happen.

[Mooner]

I cba to dig through pages to find something you quote without citation.

Yes I guessed that would be the case, I have mentioned before how you find it difficult to face the truth, so to save you precious time..........http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Koh-Tao-police-fail-another-day-30243890.html

The article is also interesting in that it refers to the Little Duck speedboat and also confirms that the RTP were looking for 2 weapons not just the hoe

Are you really using an article from 8 days into the investigation?

Strangely you skip over the fact that they were looking at Burmese as the primary suspects at that time.

They were looking for foreigners. Anyone but a Thai.

[jdinasia]

I cba to dig through pages to find something you quote without citation.

Yes I guessed that would be the case, I have mentioned before how you find it difficult to face the truth, so to save you precious time..........http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Koh-Tao-police-fail-another-day-30243890.html

The article is also interesting in that it refers to the Little Duck speedboat and also confirms that the RTP were looking for 2 weapons not just the hoe

Are you really using an article from 8 days into the investigation?

Strangely you skip over the fact that they were looking at Burmese as the primary suspects at that time.

They were looking for foreigners. Anyone but a Thai.

Contrary to the conspiracy theorists claim ; they did indeed look at Thai people at one point. Then exculpatory evidence ruled out the suspects

[thailandchilli]

I cba to dig through pages to find something you quote without citation.

Yes I guessed that would be the case, I have mentioned before how you find it difficult to face the truth, so to save you precious time..........http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Koh-Tao-police-fail-another-day-30243890.html

The article is also interesting in that it refers to the Little Duck speedboat and also confirms that the RTP were looking for 2 weapons not just the hoe

Are you really using an article from 8 days into the investigation?

Strangely you skip over the fact that they were looking at Burmese as the primary suspects at that time.

Yes correct 8 days into the investigation the evidence had already been destroyed, or do you think they've left it in a safety box somewhere

[jdinasia]

And again, they were looking at Burmese. Only some DNA had been tested. Etc

[Islandlife]

we already know that islandlife is in the employ of the headman,

thus, he "knows" all of them,

and, has communicated via text messaging with Nomsod, after the crime, and somehow knew his new cell number

he also knows Mon,

maybe he also knows Mon was involved and likely was one of the rapists too?

Not via phone , by facebook.

No im not working for him,never have never will dont know him and by the way he's not mayor either. Have been but not long time.

Yes, I do know Mon though for over over 10 years now.

100% shure he wasnt involved.

[thailandchilli]

And again, they were looking at Burmese. Only some DNA had been tested. Etc

and again whats that got to do with the evidence that was destroyed by the Thai's to divert attention to those who were really involved

Edited November 25, 2014 by thailandchilli

[thailandchilli]

we already know that islandlife is in the employ of the headman,

thus, he "knows" all of them,

and, has communicated via text messaging with Nomsod, after the crime, and somehow knew his new cell number

he also knows Mon,

maybe he also knows Mon was involved and likely was one of the rapists too?

Not via phone , by facebook.

No im not working for him,never have never will dont know him and by the way he's not mayor either. Have been but not long time.

Yes, I do know Mon though for over over 10 years now.

100% shure he wasnt involved.

Strange he deleted his personal facebook account right after the murders or does he have a new one now under a false name?

[Islandlife]

Meny Thais Have with western lettering . But im pretty shure after all garbage he received probably have changed hes back to Thai or terminated hes old account ,i would off certainly.

Thanks to all mighty Csi la who knows everything and is saviour of Thai society....

[thailandchilli]

Meny Thais Have with western lettering . But im pretty shure after all garbage he received probably have changed hes back to Thai or terminated hes old account ,i would off certainly.

Thanks to all mighty Csi la who knows everything and is saviour of Thai society....

My point was you stated you sent him a text message via facebook, but I'm saying his facebook account was deleted, so how did you manage this?

[SteveFong]

you can delete your facebook page,

but if Scotland Yard, or the Burmese police send a subpeona,

Facebook will turn over info about its own mother,

They keep everything for law enforcement,

in the USA, it is a known fact, they don't deny it

[spidermike007]

So it wasn't the same cigarette butt and he didn't have sex with Hannah. does this really prove that he's not the guilty party? does this prove that it was not a gang member that had sex with Hannah? does this really prove anything? did we expect any other result? Is any other result possible with a thai family that is worth hundreds of millions of dollars? I think not.

Edited November 25, 2014 by spidermike007

[Bleacher Bum East]

I cba to dig through pages to find something you quote without citation.

Yes I guessed that would be the case, I have mentioned before how you find it difficult to face the truth, so to save you precious time..........http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Koh-Tao-police-fail-another-day-30243890.html

The article is also interesting in that it refers to the Little Duck speedboat and also confirms that the RTP were looking for 2 weapons not just the hoe

Are you really using an article from 8 days into the investigation?

Strangely you skip over the fact that they were looking at Burmese as the primary suspects at that time.

It is in fact incredibly interesting, enlightening and useful in analyzing the case to go back and read all of the statements about the investigation made during the first 10 days or so after the crime was committed.

While there were many speculative and conflicting statements, you can also collect numerous statements of fact made by authorities based on sufficient information to make those statements--including the results of the forensic autopsy and their inferences from those results.

Some of these statements of fact and contemporaneous inferences don't really line up with the current scenario of the B2.

In addition, investigators and attorneys will tell you that many times statements made closer to event are more reliable than statements made later, because there is less time to craft the statements to fit a particular conclusion.

Regarding the initial focus on Burmese suspects, that raises a highly relevant question that has not yet been answered.

If you go back and read the news reports during the first week after the murders, the police said that they picked up 12 initial suspects and interrogated and DNA tested them, and that none of these suspects' DNA matched that found on Hannah.

Included in these 12 suspects, all of whom were released, were 3 Burmese men drinking on the beach that night.

I've not seen any news reports stating that anybody saw 3 different Burmese men drinking on the beach that night and who became suspects other than the B2 and the witness who was with them.

For an observer to properly analyze the case, as well as a judge, it would be extremely important to know if these 3 men who were interrogated, DNA tested, and released right after the murders were in fact the accused B2 and their friend the witness.

I would think that this would be one of the very first things their defense attorney would determine, as well as the prosecutor. Because if the B2 were tested at that time and no match was found, then that blows a devastating hole in the prosecutor's case if it goes to trial.

BTW I'm not talking about the B2 being tested at the time there were photos of one and the witness standing in line ... I'm talking about even earlier than that, a couple of days after the murders.

Edited November 25, 2014 by Bleacher Bum East

[Islandlife]

Maby hes facebook account was deleted after we chatted ,not shure exaktly but id it was 2-3 weeks after still active .

I actually even adviced him like to be quiet or not comment as everything would be tvisted against him .

Kind of like here if u are not thinking like vise with some posters here,ull be gunned down instantly.

As dont "credibility" or have "vested" interest or other crap..

[JLCrab]

So it wasn't the same cigarette butt and he didn't have sex with Hannah. does this really prove that he's not the guilty party? does this prove that it was not a gang member that had sex with Hannah? does this really prove anything? did we expect any other result? Is any other result possible with a thai family that is worth hundreds of millions of dollars? I think not.

Maybe only when families worth billions of dollars and with interests in the region get involved and say that this state of affairs cannot stand.

[SteveFong]

So it wasn't the same cigarette butt and he didn't have sex with Hannah. does this really prove that he's not the guilty party? does this prove that it was not a gang member that had sex with Hannah? does this really prove anything? did we expect any other result? Is any other result possible with a thai family that is worth hundreds of millions of dollars? I think not.

There was a police Lt. General that was a billionaire a few days ago,

now he is a prisoner

dont think these guys are too big to bring down,

they are already on the way down

[SteveFong]

Maby hes facebook account was deleted after we chatted ,not shure exaktly but id it was 2-3 weeks after still active .

I actually even adviced him like to be quiet or not comment as everything would be tvisted against him .

Kind of like here if u are not thinking like vise with some posters here,ull be gunned down instantly.

As dont "credibility" or have "vested" interest or other crap..

admittedly, islandlife, you confound me

why of all people, would Nomsod be taking advice from you?