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This is surely some of the worst propaganda in human history.

Seriously, some of Prayuths top advisors are actually tasked with coming up with propaganda that will somehow inflate their non existent legitimacy - and this is what they come up with w00t.gif.pagespeed.ce.fUUOmDCInI.gif

And the nation just laps it up...

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Seriously? We are no longer allowed to comment on the credibility of questionable polls conducted by the Thai Researchers in Community Happiness Association http://asiancorrespondent.com/126917/why-are-some-opinion-poll-results-so-positive-of-the-thai-junta/?

Understanding the source of the information is critical to understanding the information.

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Prayuth is worth about the same as Yingluck, at around 600 million Baht.

Being an honest general, Prayuth would of course have saved this money from his army salary of 117,000 Baht per month.

Yingluck, on the other hand, having been the CEO of AIS, would have surely amassed her similar fortune by corrupt methods.

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Putting people on the ignore list defies the purpose of a forum. It's something a child would do, a grown up tries to discuss and bring in arguments to support their case

Completely disagree. Before spam filters became much more efficient, an inbox would be stuffed with them. You'd read and argue the toss with everyone from Nigeria re the provenance of their granny's inaccessible bank account? laugh.png

Ha! You'll be laughing on the other side of your face when that half million pounds they sent me arrives next week. You just wait and see..

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"A drunk----an out of touch shopper/ and a red army mobiliser-fanatic..................think before you post please".

Sound advice ginjag, sound advice.....................................coffee1.gif

The three I mentioned it is true. What is the problem ??? I will tell you again and again denial.

I still have you on ignore, ginjag, but in the past couple of months I've been drawn to reading your increasingly fervent posts in support of the PM (and all the baggage that goes with that). It's like car crash TV, you think it's bad, and then it gets worse, but you just can't drag yourself away from the scene........................coffee1.gif

GOOD keep me on ignore, my to the point criticism on the previous government is hard for you to swallow.

I am going along with the PM as he is the only one who can try to sort out the problems..

You and your elk will never do Thailand a favour with you stance.

If the PM cannot iron out the problems in the year or so then he deserves to be out the door.

Please do not drag me down to your doom and gloom so keep me on your ignore list please. Please do not read and reply--simple, do not be weak and get drawn into my Quote "baggage" posts.cheesy.gifcheesy.gifcheesy.gif

besides the fact that every time someone discusses an issue with the current 'government' your reply is "Thaksin", I take offence to the this in particular

You and your elk will never do Thailand a favour with you stance.

because I have an extremely important vested interest in Thailand and her future, and my stance is one of justice, human rights, and self-governance.

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The three I mentioned it is true. What is the problem ??? I will tell you again and again denial.

I still have you on ignore, ginjag, but in the past couple of months I've been drawn to reading your increasingly fervent posts in support of the PM (and all the baggage that goes with that). It's like car crash TV, you think it's bad, and then it gets worse, but you just can't drag yourself away from the scene........................coffee1.gif

GOOD keep me on ignore, my to the point criticism on the previous government is hard for you to swallow.

I am going along with the PM as he is the only one who can try to sort out the problems..

You and your elk will never do Thailand a favour with you stance.

If the PM cannot iron out the problems in the year or so then he deserves to be out the door.

Please do not drag me down to your doom and gloom so keep me on your ignore list please. Please do not read and reply--simple, do not be weak and get drawn into my Quote "baggage" posts.cheesy.gifcheesy.gifcheesy.gif

"I am going along with the PM as he is the only one who can try to sort out the problems.."

Told you so... the empathetic concept of cartharsis.

Ginjag.. be careful.. you might blow a fuse whilst waiting for the PM to deliver all that you imagined. ;)

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Please pray tell me who was appointed on the PTP cabinet---by who ??? what credentials did they have ??? water management ?? education tablets Rice committee?? transport/highways scams??? who was catered for in Thaksins government---FAMILY for starters.

Old military men will have more gorm than Chalerm/Yingluck/Jutaporn/ etc. These people were complete nutters in comparison. A drunk----an out of touch shopper/ and a red army mobiliser-fanatic..................think before you post please.

I could agree a little with your post re/old retired, but you do not have any reason to doubt their abilities, we have proof of the Shin family/friends abilities at the helm.

At the end of the day all you are doing is looking for silly excuses. It does not change the fact that Yingluck and PT received 48% of the popular vote, real people voting for them not some fabricated opinion pole. Please don't even mention credentials as the current lot have none other than being part of the militairy, which from past experience is worthless when one looks for people running a government. Or did you forget their poor record the last time ?

YAWN...same rubbish propaganda. I wish we could have an election now to swipe off the smirks from some of you. Put me on your ignore list please.

shoulda been one back in July, buuuuuuut, well never mind.

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I still have you on ignore, ginjag, but in the past couple of months I've been drawn to reading your increasingly fervent posts in support of the PM (and all the baggage that goes with that). It's like car crash TV, you think it's bad, and then it gets worse, but you just can't drag yourself away from the scene........................coffee1.gif

There's an "ignore" button?

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ginjag, on 02 Nov 2014 - 09:11, said:
Thailand, on 02 Nov 2014 - 07:49, said:
The stuttering parrot, on 02 Nov 2014 - 07:27, said:

Well with nearly 94% of approval I'm surprised he hasn't walked on water yet!

Surprisingly no opposition .

He must be doing right thing.

A lot of announcements but not sure what the junta has actually done.

Oh getting the street vendors of the streets and tearing down poor peoples homes on in or near forest boundaries.

Yep I can see why they are so popular.

They have given gainful employment to a lot of old military men coming up to retirement, and ensured families and friends are catered for.

Can't argue with these polls. Well you can, but it may be wrongly construed.

Please pray tell me who was appointed on the PTP cabinet---by who ??? what credentials did they have ??? water management ?? education tablets Rice committee?? transport/highways scams??? who was catered for in Thaksins government---FAMILY for starters.

Old military men will have more gorm than Chalerm/Yingluck/Jutaporn/ etc. These people were complete nutters in comparison. A drunk----an out of touch shopper/ and a red army mobiliser-fanatic..................think before you post please.

I could agree a little with your post re/old retired, but you do not have any reason to doubt their abilities, we have proof of the Shin family/friends abilities at the helm.

We also have proof that after 12, successful, coups, the military has achieved NOTHING.. military officers are NOT politicians, in fact as far as many countries go, they aren't even qualified, except by birth, to be military officers.

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I see the high scores were from providing subsidies, infrastructure projects and attending a regional conference. Looks the same as previous government except this time there no court injunctions, street demonstration and the Dem kicking up a stink. Different time different stroke. Laughable.

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Jesus Ginjag you're acting like a petulant child asking to be put on their ignore list!!

Your fervent support for the General is scary to be honest, and leaping to his defence with "but PTP this and PTP that " is almost as boring as PM bashing in another thread you claimed that by reading All the red apologists posts destresses you, bullshit it does mate, it winds you up no need when your hero of year gets stick!!!

Why is he held in such reverence to you? By your own accounts since the 30 years you've been here, not one single Government has delivered and yet you put all your faith in a man you don't even know ?

Talk about a leap of faith ?? Good fair you you'll give him a year to sort it all out too, how very big of you to give him that time, I guess you're actually quite an important Thai National that you can give him 12 months to set things right, and not some Farang with zero say on how any Thai in authority performs?

I'm wondering just what exactly gives the General a much better chance to turn around Thai politics that no other politician has been able to do in 30 years ????

Instead of asking people to put you on their ignore list, why don't you simply stop coming to the defence of a man who by definition seized control of the country at gunpoint, and let people rant and rave all they want, I'm sure the General doesn't need you to stick up for him and he should be tough enough to accept criticism no matter how big or small, he's a 60 year old career soldier a multi millionaire to boot, he's not a defences less 10 years old you need to come to his aid all the time.

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Propaganda one sided post again. ignore list please, pigged off with this clap trap.

He used to state proudly that he supported the DEMS, but his words deceived that notion as he only ever denounced them.

With comments like this I wonder if he is a Junta fan as well!

I love the "gun point" argument too. The reason the most popular PM in 10 years seized control was because the country WAS held at gun point by the red shirts. Unless the 28 deaths and 780 odd injured mean nothing.

Imagine if the army killed 28 people in 7 months and injured 780 and then the red shirts came in and stopped that massacre in it's tracks stating that they could not consciously let it continue. Even a special needs child in a wheel chair with no imagination and an attention deficit disorder would know how the red apologists would view the army and the red shirts in that scenario.

PTP logic right there folks.

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Between the first quarter of 2001, when former premier Thaksin Shinawatra and his Thai Rak Thai party won their first election, and the fourth quarter of 2005, just before significant protests against Thaksin began, the Thai economy expanded by 31.9 per cent in total, equal to an average growth rate of 1.5 per cent quarter on quarter and 6.0 per cent year on year. In the eight and a half years since, the economy has grown by just 21.1 per cent in total, at an average rate of 0.6 quarter on quarter and 2.3 per cent year on year.

Lucky he was in power during a global economic boom, and since he was in power the global economy busted. But the full story doesn't fit the propaganda, does it?

The full story shows that Thailand's economy followed the worldwide economic trends during the Thaksin years and that it bucked those trends and performed worse at the time of the 2006, 2008 and, now, the 2014 'interventions'.

Which should not surprise anyone.

PPP were in power for pretty much all of 2008., but, IIRC, Thailand performed relatively well during the GFC under Abhisit and Korn.

But thanks for confirming the Thaksin didn't do anything special and that Thailand's economy followed the rest of the world during his time in power.

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Quite correct. Also stopping the terrorist attacks within seconds of removing the PTP is another reason they are so popular. That is a huge feather in there caps and in fact if they did nothing else for the country that alone is reason for the people to be happy. During the protests there were 4 deaths a month and 118 injuries from terrorist attacks. Now with the most popular PM Prayut being at the helm for 6 months we can project that the popular PM has stopped the red terrorists killing a further 24 coupled with 708 injuries.

How the lost lives of innocent women and children is so easily forgotten by red apologists. I would forget that one too if I was a red apologist since it was the red shirts that killed them.

My wife or children could have been the next victim had the democracy reform team, not stepped in and for that alone I am eternally grateful to Prayuth and anyone that cherishes their family would be grateful too ergo why he is so popular.

You seem to forget, that the "terrorist attacks" was caused by your very own fake monk!! Locking down the business district of Bangkok for 6 months and preventing people from voting in February, using a lot of violence to scare the voters away. Those hired gangs from the South were the real terrorists!!

So you are looking foreward to the yearly parade, where the army is going to show of their weaponry, and all the good people are going to wave their small flags in support of their masters??

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Jesus Ginjag you're acting like a petulant child asking to be put on their ignore list!!

Your fervent support for the General is scary to be honest, and leaping to his defence with "but PTP this and PTP that " is almost as boring as PM bashing in another thread you claimed that by reading All the red apologists posts destresses you, bullshit it does mate, it winds you up no need when your hero of year gets stick!!!

Why is he held in such reverence to you? By your own accounts since the 30 years you've been here, not one single Government has delivered and yet you put all your faith in a man you don't even know ?

Talk about a leap of faith ?? Good fair you you'll give him a year to sort it all out too, how very big of you to give him that time, I guess you're actually quite an important Thai National that you can give him 12 months to set things right, and not some Farang with zero say on how any Thai in authority performs?

I'm wondering just what exactly gives the General a much better chance to turn around Thai politics that no other politician has been able to do in 30 years ????

Instead of asking people to put you on their ignore list, why don't you simply stop coming to the defence of a man who by definition seized control of the country at gunpoint, and let people rant and rave all they want, I'm sure the General doesn't need you to stick up for him and he should be tough enough to accept criticism no matter how big or small, he's a 60 year old career soldier a multi millionaire to boot, he's not a defences less 10 years old you need to come to his aid all the time.

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Propaganda one sided post again. ignore list please, pigged off with this clap trap.

He used to state proudly that he supported the DEMS, but his words deceived that notion as he only ever denounced them.

With comments like this I wonder if he is a Junta fan as well!

I love the "gun point" argument too. The reason the most popular PM in 10 years seized control was because the country WAS held at gun point by the red shirts. Unless the 28 deaths and 780 odd injured mean nothing.

Imagine if the army killed 28 people in 7 months and injured 780 and then the red shirts came in and stopped that massacre in it's tracks stating that they could not consciously let it continue. Even a special needs child in a wheel chair with no imagination and an attention deficit disorder would know how the red apologists would view the army and the red shirts in that scenario.

PTP logic right there folks.

The most popular PM in 10 years is terrified of elections.

The most popular PM in 10 years is terrified of free speech.

The most popular PM in 10 years is terrified of free assembly.

It's almost as if he's not actually that popular at all and must use brute force and fear to cling to power.

But just a touch more popular than you don't you think

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Well with nearly 94% of approval I'm surprised he hasn't walked on water yet!

Surprisingly no opposition .

He must be doing right thing.

A lot of announcements but not sure what the junta has actually done.

Oh getting the street vendors of the streets and tearing down poor peoples homes on in or near forest boundaries.

Yep I can see why they are so popular.

They have given gainful employment to a lot of old military men coming up to retirement, and ensured families and friends are catered for.

Can't argue with these polls. Well you can, but it may be wrongly construed.

Please pray tell me who was appointed on the PTP cabinet---by who ??? what credentials did they have ??? water management ?? education tablets Rice committee?? transport/highways scams??? who was catered for in Thaksins government---FAMILY for starters.

Old military men will have more gorm than Chalerm/Yingluck/Jutaporn/ etc. These people were complete nutters in comparison. A drunk----an out of touch shopper/ and a red army mobiliser-fanatic..................think before you post please.

I could agree a little with your post re/old retired, but you do not have any reason to doubt their abilities, we have proof of the Shin family/friends abilities at the helm.

The Military had 12 chances to set an efficient government, the Shins had two chances.

The elected government had to cope with an opposition party that insists on operating outside the democratic process and legacy-Junta Independent Organizations that checkmate the democratic process; the military is only beholden to the King and writes its own laws.

The elected government must operate within the constitution; the military dissolves the constitution.

The elected Shins were accountable to the electorate; the military Junta is accountable to itself ("I am the Law").

The Shins tried to prevent violence with a State of Emergency that was declared unconstitutional; the military uses martial law with no one to invalidate it.

So who should have had the advantage of running the country properly?

The Military had 12 chances to set an efficient government, the Shins had two chances.

In fact this is Prayut's first opportunity to set an efficient government. The Shins had two chances.

The elected government had to cope with an opposition party that insists on operating outside the democratic process and legacy-Junta Independent Organizations that checkmate the democratic process; the military is only beholden to the King and writes its own laws.

In fact the elected government were the ones operating outside abusing the democratic process. The elected government was beholden to an unelectable accused terrorist, accused mass murderer and convicted criminal fugitive.

The elected Shins were accountable to the electorate; the military Junta is accountable to itself ("I am the Law").

The elected Shins were accountable to thaksin. Thus why the vote FOR the amnesty was 310 - 0 because thaksin wanted it while 82% of the electorate did not want the amnesty. The people held them accountable using the army as a tool.

The Shins tried to prevent violence with a State of Emergency that was declared unconstitutional; the military uses martial law with no one to invalidate it.

The Shins funded the violence through their support group, the UDD. These terrorist attacks were never deemed unconstitutional and in fact yingluck's (shinawatra) "team" never arrested anyone for those crimes.

So who should have had the advantage of running the country properly?

Can I guess?……………………………….The one that is not an unelected criminal fugitive that allowed terrorist attacks to go on for 7 months with impunity!!!!

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Jesus Ginjag you're acting like a petulant child asking to be put on their ignore list!!

Your fervent support for the General is scary to be honest, and leaping to his defence with "but PTP this and PTP that " is almost as boring as PM bashing in another thread you claimed that by reading All the red apologists posts destresses you, bullshit it does mate, it winds you up no need when your hero of year gets stick!!!

Why is he held in such reverence to you? By your own accounts since the 30 years you've been here, not one single Government has delivered and yet you put all your faith in a man you don't even know ?

Talk about a leap of faith ?? Good fair you you'll give him a year to sort it all out too, how very big of you to give him that time, I guess you're actually quite an important Thai National that you can give him 12 months to set things right, and not some Farang with zero say on how any Thai in authority performs?

I'm wondering just what exactly gives the General a much better chance to turn around Thai politics that no other politician has been able to do in 30 years ????

Instead of asking people to put you on their ignore list, why don't you simply stop coming to the defence of a man who by definition seized control of the country at gunpoint, and let people rant and rave all they want, I'm sure the General doesn't need you to stick up for him and he should be tough enough to accept criticism no matter how big or small, he's a 60 year old career soldier a multi millionaire to boot, he's not a defences less 10 years old you need to come to his aid all the time.

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Propaganda one sided post again. ignore list please, pigged off with this clap trap.

He used to state proudly that he supported the DEMS, but his words deceived that notion as he only ever denounced them.

With comments like this I wonder if he is a Junta fan as well!

I love the "gun point" argument too. The reason the most popular PM in 10 years seized control was because the country WAS held at gun point by the red shirts. Unless the 28 deaths and 780 odd injured mean nothing.

Imagine if the army killed 28 people in 7 months and injured 780 and then the red shirts came in and stopped that massacre in it's tracks stating that they could not consciously let it continue. Even a special needs child in a wheel chair with no imagination and an attention deficit disorder would know how the red apologists would view the army and the red shirts in that scenario.

PTP logic right there folks.

The most popular PM in 10 years is terrified of elections.

The most popular PM in 10 years is terrified of free speech.

The most popular PM in 10 years is terrified of free assembly.

It's almost as if he's not actually that popular at all and must use brute force and fear to cling to power.

Seems your "belief" gene is kicking in again!

Facts state otherwise.

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The most popular PM in 10 years is terrified of elections.

The most popular PM in 10 years is terrified of free speech.

The most popular PM in 10 years is terrified of free assembly.

It's almost as if he's not actually that popular at all and must use brute force and fear to cling to power.

Seems your "belief" gene is kicking in again!

Facts state otherwise.

Facts state otherwise?

1. Elections have been cancelled indefinitely.

2. The public and the media have been censored, LM case are on the rise and there is a state of martial law in place.

3. Political gatherings of more than 5 people have been banned.

Most popular PM in the last 10 years indeed.

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The most popular PM in 10 years is terrified of elections.

The most popular PM in 10 years is terrified of free speech.

The most popular PM in 10 years is terrified of free assembly.

It's almost as if he's not actually that popular at all and must use brute force and fear to cling to power.

But just a touch more popular than you don't you think

Even if my popularity was zero, I'd be in front of the General if one were to subtract those with a negative view (probably around 60%) from those with a positive view (probably around 20%).

My 0% would easily beats his -40%

(BTW: Thaksin peak popularity, gained in the 2005 election, was 60% whilst the Democrats bottomed out at 20%, I personally think this is the true breakdown of Thai political support and it is why there'll not be elections until the people rise up and take their rights back themselves)

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Propaganda one sided post again. ignore list please, pigged off with this clap trap.

He used to state proudly that he supported the DEMS, but his words deceived that notion as he only ever denounced them.

With comments like this I wonder if he is a Junta fan as well!

I love the "gun point" argument too. The reason the most popular PM in 10 years seized control was because the country WAS held at gun point by the red shirts. Unless the 28 deaths and 780 odd injured mean nothing.

Imagine if the army killed 28 people in 7 months and injured 780 and then the red shirts came in and stopped that massacre in it's tracks stating that they could not consciously let it continue. Even a special needs child in a wheel chair with no imagination and an attention deficit disorder would know how the red apologists would view the army and the red shirts in that scenario.

PTP logic right there folks.

The most popular PM in 10 years is terrified of elections.

The most popular PM in 10 years is terrified of free speech.

The most popular PM in 10 years is terrified of free assembly.

It's almost as if he's not actually that popular at all and must use brute force and fear to cling to power.

But just a touch more popular than you don't you think

My eyes are twinkling at your response........ he's popular, he's a STAR (face in two palms of the hands)... merrily looking up.

He's done sweet FA. I don't judge stars by looks.... I judge by what they do. Do you ever permit your unconcious and subconcious to talk to you? Or is it all in a fridge magnet? I bet you got a General PM fridge magnet.... come on... admit it.... you got general's slippers too! giggle.gif

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