Lite Beer Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Good Samaritan pays big fine to free popular garbage collector from jailPanor Chomphusri,Jessada Jantararak,Tanatpong KongsaiThe Nation Garbage collector Surat Maneenop-paratsuda is freed after a brief spell in prison thanks to a good Samaritan who paid the Bt133,400 fine on his behalf. Surat was ordered to pay the hefty fine for selling CDs that he had collected from trash. BANGKOK: -- A Good Samaritan who wishes to remain anonymous has paid a Bt133,400 fine for a garbage collector who would otherwise have to spend 667 days in jail for selling "pirated" movie and music compact discs from scrap he had collected.Surat Maneenopparatsuda, who sold the CDs at just Bt20 apiece, ended up being convicted of copyright infringement.On Thursday, the Supreme Court upheld the guilty verdict and ordered Surat to pay a Bt133,400 fine for the crimes committed. Because he had no cash to pay the hefty sum, the 28-year-old man was taken to Pathum Thani Central Detention Centre to serve time instead (a day in prison is counted as Bt200 in fines).Surat has attracted much public sympathy, partly because he committed the crime out of ignorance. At Saphan Sung District Office, he is a well-loved and hard-working garbage collector.Woranai Bamnejphan, a lawyer for the good Samaritan, paid the fine for Surat at the Criminal Court on Ratchadaphisek Road in Bangkok yesterday morning.After receiving a receipt and the court order to release Surat to freedom, he quickly headed to Pathum Thani Central Detention Centre."I can't disclose details. The donor of the money wishes to remain anonymous," Woranai said.Saphan Sung District Office director Kanchana Charbsuwan also showed up at the court later in the morning to pay the fine with money from Bangkok Governor MR Sukhumbhand Paribatra and Interior Minister General Anupong Paochinda."I found out that someone had already paid the fine for him," Kanchana said. "Although I don't know who that person is, I would like to say thank you for extending help to Surat."She said many people had sympathy for Surat because he was a well-loved worker. "His daughter has also had health problems."Surat's daughter Jantima and his father Surasit Maneenopparatsuda rushed to the court as soon as they heard that the fine had been paid."We are grateful for the many people who wish to help our family," Surasit said. He then rushed to Pathum Thani Central Detention Centre to see his son.After being released, Surat expressed thanks to everyone who offered him help. "I will go back to work to support my parents and my daughter," he said.Later in the day, Surat gave flowers to Sukhumbhand for extending help and allowing him to continue working for the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA)."At first, I was so worried about the legal proceedings that I dared not inform my supervisor. I was afraid I would be fired," he said.But his case became news and later on the BMA stepped in to help by providing lawyers and moral support."I've learned an expensive lesson. Back then, I didn't know selling those CDs was against the law. It was the first time I sold those CDs too."Some CDs came from piles of garbage, some from my own house, and some from my friends. My wife was pregnant with our second child at that time."So I scoured the house for something I could sell," Surat recounted. "In fact, my stall had used clothes and bags too."Kanchana said Surat had been working hard and had lately developed hypertension. "We will send him to a hospital today," she said yesterday.Sukhumbhand said the BMA had extended help to Surat as soon as it found out what happened."Because the BMA can't use its financial resources for such cases, we are considering a plan to set up a fund to help our employees and workers," he said. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Good-Samaritan-pays-big-fine-to-free-popular-garba-30247810.html -- The Nation 2014-11-15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted November 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2014 Well done to the generous benefactor as it helps restore faith in the best of human nature. On the other hand it accentuates disgust and mistrust of what is laughingly called Thai ' justice ' and how it is administered. 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BSJ Posted November 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2014 It seems ludicrous a Judge would punish this guy so hard considering the situation. If he was selling new pirated DVD's by the truck load fair enough...but he wasn't. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thai at Heart Posted November 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2014 Thailand's justice system is a joke. Nothing more to say than that. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Commerce Posted November 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2014 Injustice is served to the poor. Malfeasance is served to the wealthy. That is the Thai judicial system at grass roots level. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daoyai Posted November 15, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2014 I am going to speculate that by the way daughter is hugging pops in the photo, he must be a good guy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Wimpy Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 The headline reads like a feel good story. How can that policeman in the photo not feel bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Fixit Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Just for once some humanity in Thailand. Nice way to start the day, reading this. I hope this family get over this travesty and regain their life. The daughter certainly seems to love her dad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfalfa19 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Incredible. I really don't understand the charges. If the CDs were in the garbage, that indicates that somebody bought them legitimately somewhere. That means the winged monkeys have already collected their royalties, piece of the action, etc. So why is it a crime to recycle them?? The people who do sell copied cds, etc, don't seem to go to jail, I wonder why?? At 200 baht per day in prison to pay off the fine, this poor guy would have spent the rest of his life in prison. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ginjag Posted November 15, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2014 Just for once some humanity in Thailand. Nice way to start the day, reading this. I hope this family get over this travesty and regain their life. The daughter certainly seems to love her dad. On TVF most of my posts-time is comparing, WHY ?? to see the reasons behind the way things are run. This case was disgusting, whoever put him behind bars wants a judge to administer the same to him/her. When comparing we get good feedback, and how we remember the Hi Sos of Thai society that are allowed elongated bail. for far less than this RANSOM paid. To top it all look at the people with connections that have killed and maimed and never served time. Makes me sick. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloggie Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Keep in mind that this is what happens to people who have no money or no friends in high positions in Thailand. With money and friends in high positions you can almost do everything you want, just pay some money under the table and off you go! What did the judge think when he send this 'poor' guy to jail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuscious Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Well done to the generous benefactor as it helps restore faith in the best of human nature. On the other hand it accentuates disgust and mistrust of what is laughingly called Thai ' justice ' and how it is administered. You call this "Justice". A country where a convicted murderer can walk free after paying bail but where an old man is convicted for "lese majesty" and denied bail? Even a third world country has a better justice as this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Keep in mind that this is what happens to people who have no money or no friends in high positions in Thailand. With money and friends in high positions you can almost do everything you want, just pay some money under the table and off you go! What did the judge think when he send this 'poor' guy to jail? Would not have thought a thing--no conscience, devoid of feeling, maybe got some power feeling dishing out the sentence, wrong person doing the justice work, connections for the job ?? To some lower classes are scum and therefore treated as such. A control freak in a high position ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Ironic really when you see fake CD's on sale at markets right outside a Police Station! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technologybytes Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 It's incredible that this ever made it to court. After all, fake CD's are available everywhere in Thailand and I'm sure the sellers don't go to jail. However, in the UK he would certainly have been charged with theft for removing stuff from the garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Who on earth grassed him up and where do they live, more's the point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdsandBooze Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 This story is two tier Thailand in a nutshell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 It's incredible that this ever made it to court. After all, fake CD's are available everywhere in Thailand and I'm sure the sellers don't go to jail. However, in the UK he would certainly have been charged with theft for removing stuff from the garbage. Not completely accurate, Yes it constitutes theft but a charge doesn't necessarily follow when everything is taken into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 My hat is off to the benefactor here. Whoever you are, THANK YOU! This guy should have never been prosecuted, at least as far as what I know about the case. If ANYBODY deserved a 500 baht fine/slap on the wrist, it was this guy! Not some pickpocket katoey in a Pattaya baht bus. THOSE are the ones that should get the 2-3 year sentence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rak sa_ngop Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 He is lucky he wasn't caught picking wild mushrooms in a National Park. The sentence would have been a lot stiffer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 My hat is off to the benefactor here. Whoever you are, THANK YOU! The benefactor, or rather her foundation was named yesterday, why it is suddenly 'anonymous' seems a bit of a mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Well done to the generous benefactor as it helps restore faith in the best of human nature. On the other hand it accentuates disgust and mistrust of what is laughingly called Thai ' justice ' and how it is administered. You call this "Justice". A country where a convicted murderer can walk free after paying bail but where an old man is convicted for "lese majesty" and denied bail? Even a third world country has a better justice as this country. I hope you are not suggesting I called it justice, the exact opposite if you read correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabis Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 In my country of origin it's quite common to get heavier sentences with crimes regarding finance(a single song download by an eleven year old resulted in 600€ and confiscation of a laptop, to the parent) than with inflicting damage to alive person (6 months suspended sentence for assault & battery, with 200€ compensation to the victim) - thus kudos to the mystery good samaritan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaiyapoon Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 This has been hanging over his head for years.What that has done to him no one knows.Probably punishment enough. Thailand lets itself down all the time.Justice system is about on par with the late middle ages in Europe in many respects. It will remain a third world country until they wake up and realise that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 ...but Panthip Plaza and Fortune Center IT Mall are still open for business- right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 It seems ludicrous a Judge would punish this guy so hard considering the situation. If he was selling new pirated DVD's by the truck load fair enough...but he wasn't. I couldn't have said this better, except to say all those "Judges" in the court system who created and then agreed to this draconian punishment should be ashamed of themselves. They obviously have no concept of what it's like to be poor in this country. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 You can buy pirated CD anywhere in thailand..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1Str8 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Is it the same judge who let people get away with murder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 the mind boggles the guy who sentenced him is a JUDGE,? a judge who is so out of touch with reality, (still it does happen in the uk with 85 year old judges making senile comments and handing down stupid sentences). poor guy looking out for his family. why dont the authorities take a trip to MBK or PANTIP PLAZA there are a few fakes there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamariva1957 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 This story makes my blood boil! What laws did he break? he sold junk, things that others threw out. Did he repackage them as can be seen any dam day in this country especially along the larger roads in BKK and in every night or Saturday market here in LOS, or for that matter anywhere in SEA! How many people have seen CD's hanging from the backs of carts, trailers, and even bicycles? Are they infringing on some company's rights? I have even seen them hanging in fields in the Midwest in the US to frighten the birds off. Are these farmers infringing on those same rights? Enough already with this bit! No one gets hurt, except the companies that produce the stuff and they are making enough anyway. Selling re-packaged CD's or DVD's is something all together different. That is breaking the law. But to say that he was doing this with the items that he picked out from the garaged is I guess the question. But the article does not say or makes that clear. If he was then, just like all the others that are selling boot-legged copies he is guilty. But to go after a garbageman and not the organizations selling in clear view of the BIB on the streets at their nice well lite stalls where no mystery of what it is that they are selling is totally beyond me. I was in the film industry (Hollywood and NYC) and so can say with certainly that this situation is a problem, yes, but not as much of one as the industry would like you to believe! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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