JOC Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I agree with him completely. I feel quite sure that there is an honest policeman somewhere in Thailand. He should be listed under endangered species!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lildragon Posted November 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2014 What about the chief you personally appointed and his extraordinary wealth? And maybe after the police are done with this maybe you could go through the ranks of your beloved army and route out all the dodgy schemers in the ranks there? Maybe I'll see a pig fly first. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konying Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 May be general can set up anonymous line for people to report police corruption , then he might get the idea of how many and in what scale.One line? Remember that scene in Bruce Almighty, where Jim Carey says he'll answer everyone's prayers on his computer? Just one but with many operators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Knowing some police officers personally, I can say not all are corrupt. Many, yes. But not all. Some are very honest and are actually trying to do a good job. Problem is the management. Clean that up and perhaps the RTP can hold their head high again with pride. In the Bangkok Post today, the general says this is his dream. A police force free of corruption. I've got a renewed respect for the man. Especially as he says this is the root of many of Thailand's problems. No links to the Post, please. Just the fact that you have post about, you know a guy or two, who are (maybe) not corrupt, really says it all doesn't it?? As for the generals dream, have a look at the guy, he handpicked to Chief of National Police!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finnomick Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 OK, not all so let's say 99% then...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestBitterPhuket Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 They are all rotten, except from some of the secretaries and civilian staff. An honest police man would report his colleagues for crimes, corruption and failure to carry out duty. An honest policeman would have been frozen out or sacked fairly quick. General, the Thai people knows the truth about the police. All must be reformed. They need to be retrained and sit for exams again, with those failing losing their jobs. Only honest and skilled personnel should be involved. Hire more women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Rotten to the core..... Period!!!And that in a democracy.,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wringo Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I know of some "honest Thai police", who raided a restaurant in Isan. They fabricated a story of a waitress selling sex (at a restaurant) and then asked the boss for 150,000 baht to make it go away. When the boss said no, these honest police arrested the boss, waitresses and the cashier. A court date has been set and these poor souls have to suffer because of this sham. It's unbelievable what these cops do to this country. They are the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrerakiss Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Rotten to the core..... Period!!!And that in a democracy.,, The RTP has been rotten to the core for more years than I could ever recall, through many democratic governments, through many coups and their off spring military governments. So what's your point Irishsmile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always18 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 No one assumes "all Thai police to be crooked," they know it. Yes, probably the only people who don't assume all Thai police are crooked are among the ranks of those who have spent less than a few weeks here.......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konying Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Being corrupt is only part of the problem , the other main issue is being totally unskilled in all regards including knowing basic law, on top of that total unwillingness to do the job unless there is a big pay off and from recent experience 10000 baht is not sufficient amount to go do his job( arrest a thief ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) The public should not assume all police are crooked ..... just 90% of them ... Edited November 26, 2014 by steven100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjcampbe Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Dear Leader PM Prayuth, May I respectfully suggest that you actually DO something about the fact that the police ARE inherently corrupt? Perhaps you could actually DO something about restructuring the entire police force, properly compensating them so corruption is not necessary, provide them with adequate training, ensure they have proper supervision and community oversight, and an effective internal affairs organization to keep it all legitimate. And most importantly, you could create a disciplinary process that terminates or incarcerates police who violate the code of conduct and engage in corruption, regardless of their seniority, or who they know, or who they are related to. Respect is earned, Khun Prayuth. Today, the RTP has exactly the level of respect that they have earned. That is to say, NONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 It's as simple as this. Bribery and corruption have been a part of Thai culture forever as it has been with every developing nation in the world throughout history. It may not be liked by a lot, but it has been accepted by the vast majority of Thai citizens who have a fatalistic attitude that anything will ever be done about it. On top of that, when the people in the highest positions ARE corrupt then that corruption is passed on to all the ranks below. There may be a few in the ranks that do not like it and do no want to participate, but the pressure from their peers and the top brass will keep their mouths shut so eventually they will either participate or become a single island of non-corruption unto themselves. If the government keeps up what they are doing then things will hopefully start to change, but they can't stop at exposing this one nest of corruption, they must keep on relentlessly exposing these nests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpkt8 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I was told by a Thai friend who has many government officials connections, that the first criteria of being a police is to accept bribes. If one is the odd one, he will be cast out. Eventually he will learn to be one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocking Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Over centuries, corruption has become the back-cloth that holds together the rich and colourful tapestry that is Thailand. Destroy the backcloth overnight and the whole thing falls apart. Is there a sector of Government of Society here that’s entirely free from corruption? Probably not. The problem is so endemic that solving it will take a generation, it’s not so much a case of weeding-it-out as breeding-it-out. But, if you’re serious about solving it then you’ve got to start somewhere. To start by taking-down a few Kingpins, especially those who were tasked with enforcing the very laws that they’ve apparently broken, is probably the most logical first step. The PM’s has certainly made some PR gaff’s since taking office, but stating that not all of the police force are corrupt certainly isn’t one of them. You can be the best centre forward in the world, but if your back-four and goal keeper refuse to support you then you’re not going to win many games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halion Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Perhaps,along with condemning these few rotten apples he should look into the culture which not only condones but accepts corruption as an acceptable way of life. These errant senior police officers are simply the tip of the iceberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Here is what I'm missing: All non corrupt cops will attend a planed press conference next week. Therefore we need sponsorship for two motorbike taxis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Rotten to the core..... Period!!!And that in a democracy.,,The RTP has been rotten to the core for more years than I could ever recall, through many democratic governments, through many coups and their off spring military governments.So what's your point Irishsmile? this coup seems to be different then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Knowing some police officers personally, I can say not all are corrupt. Many, yes. But not all. Some are very honest and are actually trying to do a good job. Problem is the management. Clean that up and perhaps the RTP can hold their head high again with pride. In the Bangkok Post today, the general says this is his dream. A police force free of corruption. I've got a renewed respect for the man. Especially as he says this is the root of many of Thailand's problems. No links to the Post, please. Just the fact that you have post about, you know a guy or two, who are (maybe) not corrupt, really says it all doesn't it?? As for the generals dream, have a look at the guy, he handpicked to Chief of National Police!! The new chief of police was hand picked due to the good job he did during the riots a year ago. Probably a good way to choose a new top cop? Based on good performance??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracker1 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Has anybody ever met a police officer that isnt a crook? Yes I married one ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 They are all rotten, except from some of the secretaries and civilian staff. An honest police man would report his colleagues for crimes, corruption and failure to carry out duty. An honest policeman would have been frozen out or sacked fairly quick. General, the Thai people knows the truth about the police. All must be reformed. They need to be retrained and sit for exams again, with those failing losing their jobs. Only honest and skilled personnel should be involved. Hire more women. "An honest police man would report his colleagues for crimes, corruption and failure to carry out duty." Isn't that exactly what has happened, hence this and other connected threads? There are many people in custody right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I am sure the General, his colleagues in the upper echelons of the armed forces, and the police chief and his associates all got where there wealth and positions they are today from good old hard graft.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 And wasn't the Police commissioner subject to speculation about recent purchases in the hundreds of Millions? The RTP is rotten from top to bottom, they were out on tea money patrol yesterday morning 0600 just outside Korat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini81 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Cool. I'll assume them super crooked then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Despite all the thai bashing in here I think PM has a point . They do try to clean up and this would probably never had happened under Yingluck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Even if they tried putting decent people in to authoritative positions, it would be like pouring new wine in old skins. Any police person who wants to rise in the ranks has to pay his up the ladder. Silly notions like intelligence and skills and honesty take a back seat. If I scatter thorn bush seeds all around my garden, I doubt I'll get a fig tree to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) Prayut asks public not to assume all police to be crooked I agree with him. There might be exceptions. Edited November 26, 2014 by sweatalot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildragon Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Knowing some police officers personally, I can say not all are corrupt. Many, yes. But not all. Some are very honest and are actually trying to do a good job. Problem is the management. Clean that up and perhaps the RTP can hold their head high again with pride. In the Bangkok Post today, the general says this is his dream. A police force free of corruption. I've got a renewed respect for the man. Especially as he says this is the root of many of Thailand's problems. No links to the Post, please. Just the fact that you have post about, you know a guy or two, who are (maybe) not corrupt, really says it all doesn't it??As for the generals dream, have a look at the guy, he handpicked to Chief of National Police!! The new chief of police was hand picked due to the good job he did during the riots a year ago. Probably a good way to choose a new top cop? Based on good performance??? I think he's referring to the police chiefs unusually high wealth for a man of his position.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolabuff Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) When it's a bunch of multimillionaire police and army officers leading an anti-corruption effort against some billionaire officers, it's hard not to assume it's envy more than anything else. Edited November 26, 2014 by nolabuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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