Prosecutors set to arraign Myanmar men for Koh Tao killings

[Borzandy]

Why we don't hear about British investigators??

[BoristheBlade]

Timing, that's what I know, in diplomacy never reveal your hand until you have to, and this is a diplomatic game.

Thailand is on the verge of enormous change and the world is watching.

Just read the BBC website over the last few days. Even today this case is on that web site....the accused asking for help from the victims families.

The report will be slowly leaked, but when the time is right. If the Thai authorities pursue the Burmese the leaks will begin in earnest.

The British are saying nothing as yet for a reason.

The British Government will give there Thai counterparts the chance to redeem themselves or equally the chance to hang themselves.

How do you know? The British Government already has a report?

Edited December 2, 2014 by BoristheBlade

[thailandchilli]

No prosecution Koh Tao case accused Zaw Lin/Wai Phyo today, prosecutor requests 6th detention extension. Defense lawyers to oppose again

(Tweet from Andy Hall)

Maybe one of the new witness's that suddenly appeared decided to recant. I trust a witness brought in for this case as much as I trust the contaminated crime scene to give credible DNA and evidence, this is their previous attempt at getting witness's "Man says police beat him after he declined to be witness in Koh Tao murder case" http://www.prachatai...glish/node/4373

700,000 THB was offered to him to be a witness, wonder how much any future witness's will get?

Edited December 2, 2014 by thailandchilli

[stephen terry]

No prosecution Koh Tao case accused Zaw Lin/Wai Phyo today, prosecutor requests 6th detention extension. Defense lawyers to oppose again

(Tweet from Andy Hall)

Which just goes to show that the Nation's OP report is less than accurate. Whether this is good news or not, is again debatable.

[DaveE13]

No prosecution Koh Tao case accused Zaw Lin/Wai Phyo today, prosecutor requests 6th detention extension. Defense lawyers to oppose again

(Tweet from Andy Hall)

Which just goes to show that the Nation's OP report is less than accurate. Whether this is good news or not, is again debatable.

A 6th extension. How long is the Prosecutor allowed in Thai law?

[stephen terry]

No prosecution Koh Tao case accused Zaw Lin/Wai Phyo today, prosecutor requests 6th detention extension. Defense lawyers to oppose again

(Tweet from Andy Hall)

Which just goes to show that the Nation's OP report is less than accurate. Whether this is good news or not, is again debatable.

A 6th extension. How long is the Prosecutor allowed in Thai law?

7 extensions of 12 days each up to a maximum of 84 days that they can be detained.

Edited December 2, 2014 by stephen terry

[minikev]

Why is everyone hell bent on saying these 2 are innocent.

The General just had some of the top cops in Thailand arrested yet there isn't as much as a hint that his people have found anything untoward and don't think for one minute they haven't checked

I very much doubt if the General would hesitate to arrest anyone who has tampered with evidence...He wants the people behind him and if this was a stitch up and he exposed it, his popularity would go through the roof.

It seems that all we read on Thaivisa these days is post written by know it alls who spend half their lives telling us every policeman in Thailand is corrupt and in every case that comes up the evil Thai Police have an angle.

In the case at hand there is not one piece of evidence that suggests these guys are innocent. They have no alibi of being elsewhere, they admitted they did it but now with their lives on the line and a bunch of lawyers (the most honest people in Thailand) pulling the strings suddenly we here cries of "It wasn't me"c

Some one correct me if I am wrong but wasn't there a 3rd man, their friend who witnessed the attack?

OK I'll correct you No there wasn't a third man their friend that witnessed the attack. Possibly a good idea to do a little research before condemning 2 people to the death penalty.

[Willy Eckerslike]

No prosecution Koh Tao case accused Zaw Lin/Wai Phyo today, prosecutor requests 6th detention extension. Defense lawyers to oppose again

(Tweet from Andy Hall)

Which just goes to show that the Nation's OP report is less than accurate. Whether this is good news or not, is again debatable.

A 6th extension. How long is the Prosecutor allowed in Thai law?

They are allowed 7 extensions..........total of 84 days.............if no charges after the 7th extension the B2 should be freed........

[DaveE13]

No prosecution Koh Tao case accused Zaw Lin/Wai Phyo today, prosecutor requests 6th detention extension. Defense lawyers to oppose again

(Tweet from Andy Hall)

Which just goes to show that the Nation's OP report is less than accurate. Whether this is good news or not, is again debatable.

A 6th extension. How long is the Prosecutor allowed in Thai law?

They are allowed 7 extensions..........total of 84 days.............if no charges after the 7th extension the B2 should be freed........

So why they need more time? Wasnt it said early on it was a perfect case?

[mcm991]

No prosecution Koh Tao case accused Zaw Lin/Wai Phyo today, prosecutor requests 6th detention extension. Defense lawyers to oppose again

(Tweet from Andy Hall)

Maybe one of the new witness's that suddenly appeared decided to recant. I trust a witness brought in for this case as much as I trust the contaminated crime scene to give credible DNA and evidence, this is their previous attempt at getting witness's "Man says police beat him after he declined to be witness in Koh Tao murder case" http://www.prachatai...glish/node/4373

700,000 THB was offered to him to be a witness, wonder how much any future witness's will get?

There is such a foul stench surrounding this whole affair.

<snip>.

Edited December 2, 2014 by Jai Dee
Baiting comment deleted

[stephen terry]

So why they need more time? Wasnt it said early on it was a perfect case?

No prosecution Koh Tao case accused Zaw Lin/Wai Phyo today, prosecutor requests 6th detention extension. Defense lawyers to oppose again

(Tweet from Andy Hall)

Which just goes to show that the Nation's OP report is less than accurate. Whether this is good news or not, is again debatable.

A 6th extension. How long is the Prosecutor allowed in Thai law?

They are allowed 7 extensions..........total of 84 days.............if no charges after the 7th extension the B2 should be freed........

Actually, it is very interesting. The prosecutor is retracting his assertion that he would indict them before the end of November, which is a climb-down - and there might be more behind the scenes activity being brought to bear.

Our CT posters could have a field day with this one...

[Willy Eckerslike]

Quote:

"Evidence presented by investigators is solid," Tawatchai Seangchaew said yesterday in his capacity as head of the Office of State Attorney Region 8.

The Prosecutor has accepted the case........So why is he requesting a further extension

[outsider]

Well done! More pats on the backs for these people please. Everybody should also be rewarded... above and beyond what was already offered

On a separate note, to any nitwits members who think I meant what I said (wrote) - I don't. If you don't understand, look up 'sarcasm' in the dictionary.

[catsanddogs]

Clearly what was stated all along, and is crucial to the case, is that the DNA found in the victim came from the two Burmese. If true, this would be convincing enough of their guilt to convince almost any sceptic. If you have provably raped someone minutes before their death, the likelihood that you are the murderer is overwhelming.

However the delays in bringing the prosecution, and the contradictory, ignorant and sometimes physically impossible claims made about DNA evidence by the RTP almost from day 1 suggests to me that they don't actually have DNA evidence that is adequate to prove identity beyond question, either through bad sampling or processing, or even direct tampering.

This will only come out if the DNA evidence is rigorously examined and questioned in court, using expert witnesses who understand the nature of DNA evidence, and what it can, or cannot, prove.

I fear that the defence team won't be expert enough to provide the necessary questioning of the DNA evidence, and this is what will doom the two Burmese.

If the DNA evidence is good, they are likely guilty.

I still think there is a possibility Hannah was not raped. If the RPT have in fact led people astray with any false DNA results, then it is also possible that they could have done the same regarding their claim that she was raped. Maybe there really was no semen? But that leaves me with the question of why a murderer would construct the crime scene to look like rape. Just thinking out loud.

[thailandchilli]

Clearly what was stated all along, and is crucial to the case, is that the DNA found in the victim came from the two Burmese. If true, this would be convincing enough of their guilt to convince almost any sceptic. If you have provably raped someone minutes before their death, the likelihood that you are the murderer is overwhelming.

However the delays in bringing the prosecution, and the contradictory, ignorant and sometimes physically impossible claims made about DNA evidence by the RTP almost from day 1 suggests to me that they don't actually have DNA evidence that is adequate to prove identity beyond question, either through bad sampling or processing, or even direct tampering.

This will only come out if the DNA evidence is rigorously examined and questioned in court, using expert witnesses who understand the nature of DNA evidence, and what it can, or cannot, prove.

I fear that the defence team won't be expert enough to provide the necessary questioning of the DNA evidence, and this is what will doom the two Burmese.

If the DNA evidence is good, they are likely guilty.

I still think there is a possibility Hannah was not raped. If the RPT have in fact led people astray with any false DNA results, then it is also possible that they could have done the same regarding their claim that she was raped. Maybe there really was no semen? But that leaves me with the question of why a murderer would construct the crime scene to look like rape. Just thinking out loud.

Careful thinking out loud, I did that once and had the RTP Conspiracy Team all over me

It has been mentioned before however, the disgusting and horrific photos that one of the RTP put on on his facebook page that subsequently went viral. The position she was in was not as you would expect after having been murdered. It did look like she had her legs as in the missionary position placed like that purposely. Speculation of course

[Number 3]

They have no choice but to prosecute. Huge loss of face if charges are withdrawn. Can't wait for the not guilty verdict!

This farcical process is merely a staged process of "going through the motions".

Wait for a not guilty verdict mate, but suggest you refrain from holding your breath on that particular verdict. That is not the pre-ordained result that will be coming their way. Pure and simple.

[Number 3]

Clearly what was stated all along, and is crucial to the case, is that the DNA found in the victim came from the two Burmese. If true, this would be convincing enough of their guilt to convince almost any sceptic. If you have provably raped someone minutes before their death, the likelihood that you are the murderer is overwhelming.

However the delays in bringing the prosecution, and the contradictory, ignorant and sometimes physically impossible claims made about DNA evidence by the RTP almost from day 1 suggests to me that they don't actually have DNA evidence that is adequate to prove identity beyond question, either through bad sampling or processing, or even direct tampering.

This will only come out if the DNA evidence is rigorously examined and questioned in court, using expert witnesses who understand the nature of DNA evidence, and what it can, or cannot, prove.

I fear that the defence team won't be expert enough to provide the necessary questioning of the DNA evidence, and this is what will doom the two Burmese.

If the DNA evidence is good, they are likely guilty.

I still think there is a possibility Hannah was not raped. If the RPT have in fact led people astray with any false DNA results, then it is also possible that they could have done the same regarding their claim that she was raped. Maybe there really was no semen? But that leaves me with the question of why a murderer would construct the crime scene to look like rape. Just thinking out loud.

Couldn't agree with you more if I tried. Too staged for my liking. And mon traipsing all over the scene in the morning nullifies any DNA of his that may have been at the scene. Very well done to the end, bravo RTP.

The murders on murder island were horrific. What is destined to happen to the Burmese two is simply evil.

[CarlTyson]

Why did the island headman say his son left for Bangkok that morning?

The son now claims he was not on the island but in Bangkok the entire time.

One of them is lying.

[Number 3]

No prosecution Koh Tao case accused Zaw Lin/Wai Phyo today, prosecutor requests 6th detention extension. Defense lawyers to oppose again

(Tweet from Andy Hall)

Which just goes to show that the Nation's OP report is less than accurate. Whether this is good news or not, is again debatable.

A 6th extension. How long is the Prosecutor allowed in Thai law?

They are allowed 7 extensions..........total of 84 days.............if no charges after the 7th extension the B2 should be freed........

Their evidence is flimsy at best and corrupted at worst. Shameful period for the legal and police processes in the Samui archipelago and the Kingdom of Thailand. Am I wrong to still believe that the army could still step in here. What is with their inaction ?

I cannot imagine what these lads are going through nor the intimidation these lads must be subjected to still in prison. They are in my thoughts every single day

[bruceybonus]

Why did the island headman say his son left for Bangkok that morning?

The son now claims he was not on the island but in Bangkok the entire time.

One of them is lying.

Thai people don't lie, go and wash your mouth out with soap and water!!!

[CarlTyson]

That big police chief in Bangkok that was caught with the billions. Now he would take the money AND have the connections to derail this investigation.

[jimmybkk]

OK, so assuming the police case against the B2 is solid, then I wonder why the local boys felt the need to lean on Sean Mcanna... One can only assume it is because he was going to lead the police in the wrong direction by making crazy claims that some completely innocent local Thais were somehow involved... And the police were going to believe his crazy story... Wow!... Sean must have had some serious police connections if they were actually going to take him seriously... But then... Why couldn't these connections protect him and why did he feel the need to leave the island fearing for his life... Something doesn't add up...

[bruceybonus]

That big police chief in Bangkok that was caught with the billions. Now he would take the money AND have the connections to derail this investigation.

His connections are finished!!

[bruceybonus]

In a country with a legal/justice system this would not of even got past an evening of questioning (at most)!

[The stuttering parrot]

2400 plus posts on a thread still running and already this ones off to a flyer with the conspiracy theorists.

If buts maybes bribes rumors defamation slurs innuendos scenarios blah blah blah.

You guys think your doing some good well how about sparing a thought for the victims families and friends who might be reading this and all the other crap that's been posted about the crime not of which any of you can prove.

And by the way not all thai police and judges and politicians are on the take and corrupt so stop casting dispersions on the entire thai population with you spiteful accusations.

If your gonna talk the talk then walk the walk and back it up with some actual facts and report what you know to the relative authorities .

Shameful .

[Strangebrew]

True RTP but them again getting so hard to fake DNA tests these Days with the world watching. One way or another justice will find those Guilty and it won't care who you know or pay off . So If I were a certain someone I would run forrest run. mark my words.

[bruceybonus]

2400 plus posts on a thread still running and already this ones off to a flyer with the conspiracy theorists.

If buts maybes bribes rumors defamation slurs innuendos scenarios blah blah blah.

You guys think your doing some good well how about sparing a thought for the victims families and friends who might be reading this and all the other crap that's been posted about the crime not of which any of you can prove.

And by the way not all thai police and judges and politicians are on the take and corrupt so stop casting dispersions on the entire thai population with you spiteful accusations.

If your gonna talk the talk then walk the walk and back it up with some actual facts and report what you know to the relative authorities .

Shameful .

You are the shameful one! Without people questioning this on a MASSIVE scale across the world, it would of been swept under the rug, like the rest of the murders/assisted suicides over the years.

Please put your brain in gear before writing such piffle.

[thailandchilli]

2400 plus posts on a thread still running and already this ones off to a flyer with the conspiracy theorists.

If buts maybes bribes rumors defamation slurs innuendos scenarios blah blah blah.

You guys think your doing some good well how about sparing a thought for the victims families and friends who might be reading this and all the other crap that's been posted about the crime not of which any of you can prove.

And by the way not all thai police and judges and politicians are on the take and corrupt so stop casting dispersions on the entire thai population with you spiteful accusations.

If your gonna talk the talk then walk the walk and back it up with some actual facts and report what you know to the relative authorities .

Shameful .

Would that be the same families victims and friends who also promoted the petition online to gain over 100,000 signatures because of the injustice of this case? Check out some of the families and friends facebook pages if you care to see for yourself. People on here are crying out for justice. The more power to them the better

Edited December 2, 2014 by thailandchilli

[weaver93]

No prosecution Koh Tao case accused Zaw Lin/Wai Phyo today, prosecutor requests 6th detention extension. Defense lawyers to oppose again

(Tweet from Andy Hall)

Which just goes to show that the Nation's OP report is less than accurate. Whether this is good news or not, is again debatable.

A 6th extension. How long is the Prosecutor allowed in Thai law?

7 extensions of 12 days each up to a maximum of 84 days that they can be detained.

Maybe cynical... but is 84 days.. the end of the high season in Thailand??

[The stuttering parrot]

Justice by all means but the garbage that gets posted on here with no proof is lynch mob material.

You have convinced yourselves they are innocent and leave no room for any other outcome.

Not a healthy attitude!