Red-shirt leader Nuttawut calls on Prayut to invoke charter to grant amnesty

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Nuttawut calls on Prayut to invoke charter to grant amnesty

BANGKOK: -- Red-shirt leader Nuttawut Saikuar Friday called on Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha to invoke Article 44 of the interim constitution to grant amnesty to demonstrators during the political turmoil.

Nuttawut posted on his Facebook wall that the amnesty would bring about reconciliation in the country.

He expressed confidence that the amnesty for the people of all groups, who were not protest leaders would not meet opposition from anyone because all sides seemed to agree with the principle.

Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Nuttawut-calls-on-Prayut-to-invoke-charter-to-gran-30249674.html


-- The Nation 2014-12-12

[seajae]

trust the reds to come out in favour of an amnesty, considering they were the ones that did all the killings and and blowing up of various areas its not surprising. No amnesty for anyone that broke the law fullstop, the only way to get over all this crap is to make sure those that committed offences go to jail otherwise they will simply keep doing it.

[chotthee]

No. Amnesty for all criminal snot allowed.

Else yellow will come out again.

[bkkstooge]

the very last thing that an Amnesty (the one Nat's talking about anyway) will bring to Thailand is reconciliation

[tbthailand]

trust the reds to come out in favour of an amnesty, considering they were the ones that did all the killings and and blowing up of various areas its not surprising. No amnesty for anyone that broke the law fullstop, the only way to get over all this crap is to make sure those that committed offences go to jail otherwise they will simply keep doing it.

you have forgotten that the courts determined that the military killed people in the temple, have you? You have forgotten that yellow shirts have killed and bombed, haven't you.

There was enough violence to go around and it was far from one side.

No one is going to enforce justice against yellow shirts or the army.

Of course if the 'PM' declares an amnesty, I'll be one of the most surprised. He is interested in suppression, not reconciliation.

[tbthailand]

the very last thing that an Amnesty (the one Nat's talking about anyway) will bring to Thailand is reconciliation

according to the article, he proposed an amnesty for protesters and not protest leaders.

Last year there was support across all groups for this level of amnesty.

[LazarusRising]

No. Amnesty for all criminal snot allowed.

Else yellow will come out again.

Come out and do what, commit more crimes?

[fish fingers]

what ever happened to the popcorn shooter who was protecting the protestors?

[Boxclever]

There will be no hope for an amnesty approval from this military junta, it's not inline for their quest to snuff out the last remnants of democracy. Instead we will see kangaroo type court cases trying their best imprison anyone they see as a threat. Nat is a freedom fighter with the vast majority of the population behind him, I wish him the best of luck.

[Costas2008]

This amnesty bill, was the one that brought the previous government down.

I'm not going to debate if it was right or wrong, I will leave t to the Thai people.

But I have to say that was designed for one and only person.

A common criminal fugitive living in Dubai or wherever else.

I really hope that this government will not give in, in arrogant request like this.

[scorecard]

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There will be no hope for an amnesty approval from this military junta, it's not inline for their quest to snuff out the last remnants of democracy. Instead we will see kangaroo type court cases trying their best imprison anyone they see as a threat. Nat is a freedom fighter with the vast majority of the population behind him, I wish him the best of luck.

What rubbish.

[selftaopath]

trust the reds to come out in favour of an amnesty, considering they were the ones that did all the killings and and blowing up of various areas its not surprising. No amnesty for anyone that broke the law fullstop, the only way to get over all this crap is to make sure those that committed offences go to jail otherwise they will simply keep doing it.

I totally agree. In "Lack of Sanctions" (LOS) where are consequences ever - perhaps occasionally to poor folks - given? I believe most Thais ("freemen") feel/believe they can do ANYTHING they wish w/out consequences or even being verbally admonished. I am delighted my culture taught me so many valuable/moral/ethical lessons and standards.

[Bluespunk]

"Nuttawut posted on his Facebook wall that the amnesty would bring about reconciliation in the country."

No.

No more amnesties.

The culture of impunity cannot continue if there is ever to be progress and accountability.

You do wrong then you pay the price.

The guilty go to gaol.

Of all political shades of the rainbow.

[ramrod711]

Amnesty for peaceful protesters? Why would they need it? The ones who require amnesty are the ones who face criminal charges. Why should they get it? Nattawut told those people not too worry, he told them that he would take responsibility. If he is an honorable man, a man of his word, he should offer to stand in their place, in a court of law.

[Robby nz]

How about Nuttawat asking that the courts revoke his bail and get on with hearing the multiple charges against him.

He could then ask the NACC to investigate Nuttawut transport's role in the rice pledging scheme and ask how that company got contracts to move rice to unspecified destinations.

After all he no longer has parliamentary immunity.

[bangrak]

There will be no hope for an amnesty approval from this military junta, it's not inline for their quest to snuff out the last remnants of democracy. Instead we will see kangaroo type court cases trying their best imprison anyone they see as a threat. Nat is a freedom fighter with the vast majority of the population behind him, I wish him the best of luck.

After killing out the first shoots of a possible democracy (2009-2010), the red terrorists need an amnesty to escape their deserved punishment...

Let's have 'special' Courts instead to serve them hard, non-conniving (opposite to the Criminal and Appeal Courts with all their Shins' creatures in place), Justice, together with all others, Yellow, Blue, etc. who would have committed the same ugly crimes, no mercy, for any!

Daring to write Nut-tawut would be a 'freedom fighter', and being able to imagine 'the vast majority of the population' would be 'behind' that evil clown (or is that only in 'red villages'?), shows how deep rooted the aberration of some brain(?)washed UDD-sympathisers can be... How could anyone in his right mind have the slightest hope to ever reach anything that could be called 'reconciliation' with such characters, deep sigh!

For Thailand to be able(!) to make its first ever(!) steps towards a true democracy, the country is in high need of, new, truly, representative, popular movements, not 'compromitted' with any present political party, wealthy clan or corrupt association, this goes as well for the N, N-E, E, where nothing constructive for the nation can be reasonably expected from red-shirts/UDD (which negated several opportunities to reform themselves in that direction, far away from the Shins' dominance and the rancid remnants of the communist party cum some egotripping clowns), as it is also true for S and Central, where Yellow affiliated moneymakers and local 'barons' are still running the show, in a very selfish way.

The only other way I'd see, to escape a long and bloody clash which must be avoided, would be (con)federalism with four regions having extended autonomy, next to a strong, intangible, federal authority, manned by (rotating!) regional 'delegates'...

P.S.: and I would rather wish that Nut-tawut... 'a long and interesting life' (the Chinese way), as I hope he has used up most of his luck...

Edited December 12, 2014 by bangrak

[tbthailand]

This amnesty bill, was the one that brought the previous government down.

I'm not going to debate if it was right or wrong, I will leave t to the Thai people.

But I have to say that was designed for one and only person.

A common criminal fugitive living in Dubai or wherever else.

I really hope that this government will not give in, in arrogant request like this.

the proposed amnesty in this case does not include Thaksin, so it's not designed for one and only one person.

[sweatalot]

trust the reds to come out in favour of an amnesty, considering they were the ones that did all the killings and and blowing up of various areas its not surprising. No amnesty for anyone that broke the law fullstop, the only way to get over all this crap is to make sure those that committed offences go to jail otherwise they will simply keep doing it.

you have forgotten that the courts determined that the military killed people in the temple, have you? You have forgotten that yellow shirts have killed and bombed, haven't you.

There was enough violence to go around and it was far from one side.

No one is going to enforce justice against yellow shirts or the army.

Of course if the 'PM' declares an amnesty, I'll be one of the most surprised. He is interested in suppression, not reconciliation.

It's not only about the quality of the violence comitted but about the quantity.

I guess more than 90 % came from the reds.

Edited December 12, 2014 by sweatalot

[sweatalot]

There will be no hope for an amnesty approval from this military junta, it's not inline for their quest to snuff out the last remnants of democracy. Instead we will see kangaroo type court cases trying their best imprison anyone they see as a threat. Nat is a freedom fighter with the vast majority of the population behind him, I wish him the best of luck.

freedom fightert? Nattawut?

[bkkstooge]

There will be no hope for an amnesty approval from this military junta, it's not inline for their quest to snuff out the last remnants of democracy. Instead we will see kangaroo type court cases trying their best imprison anyone they see as a threat. Nat is a freedom fighter with the vast majority of the population behind him, I wish him the best of luck.

freedom fightert? Nattawut?

+1 to the power of 10

[Commerce]

There will be no hope for an amnesty approval from this military junta, it's not inline for their quest to snuff out the last remnants of democracy. Instead we will see kangaroo type court cases trying their best imprison anyone they see as a threat. Nat is a freedom fighter with the vast majority of the population behind him, I wish him the best of luck.

freedom fightert? Nattawut?

I think he was refering to Khun Wotattwat.

[tbthailand]

trust the reds to come out in favour of an amnesty, considering they were the ones that did all the killings and and blowing up of various areas its not surprising. No amnesty for anyone that broke the law fullstop, the only way to get over all this crap is to make sure those that committed offences go to jail otherwise they will simply keep doing it.

you have forgotten that the courts determined that the military killed people in the temple, have you? You have forgotten that yellow shirts have killed and bombed, haven't you.

There was enough violence to go around and it was far from one side.

No one is going to enforce justice against yellow shirts or the army.

Of course if the 'PM' declares an amnesty, I'll be one of the most surprised. He is interested in suppression, not reconciliation.

It's not only about the quality of the violence comitted but about the quantity.

I guess more than 90 % came from the reds.

if you count the bodies, the the majority came from the army.

but even at that, your 90% red shirt number is just silly and unobjective. Even this year there were clashes with yellow shirts where they were laced with navy personnel. And yet people here only ever talk about MiB.

violence is violence and it's wrong whether it is used by one political/religious/ethnic group against another or the government against its own citizens.

I personally do not agree with any of the amnesty proposals, but I can understand why some in Thailand want the amnesty for the normal protesters (not the protest / government leaders).

[givenall]

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trust the reds to come out in favour of an amnesty, considering they were the ones that did all the killings and and blowing up of various areas its not surprising. No amnesty for anyone that broke the law fullstop, the only way to get over all this crap is to make sure those that committed offences go to jail otherwise they will simply keep doing it.

every one know what re their plans. get amnesty for mr. T bring him back and there we go again, same shxt all over

[Wilsonandson]

Nuttawut used to be a comedian and motivational speech trainer. He's got me motivated, we want amnesty¡ Free the criminal protesters¡ Bring Thaksin home¡ What a joke. He needs to find a new way to make a living.

[slapout]

This man sticks his head up out of the sewer where he resides, exposes himself and then hides in another hiddy hole. He and Jutaporn deserve to serve time in the same hole for 10 to 20 years. Turn the gangster inmates on them every fortnight just to keep them up on their tippy toes. A attitude adjustment is way past due for this piece of work or as some describe him as a pile of offal.

[rubl]

Grant amnesty to protesters during political turmoil. Grant amnesty to protesters who were not leaders only.

Well, I guess Nattawut should be a wee bit more precise and make clear definitions, like

- period?

- what is a protester?

- what is a protest leader?

- what about protesters who are politicians, guards, 'elite', etc.?

- how will amnesty for some be reconciled with fairness to all?

- With some having doubts on the Interim Constitution why use it for 'amnesty'

- Will an amnesty based on an Interim Constitution be valid under the constitution in the making?

- What are the legal consequences?

[Ridercnx808]

trust the reds to come out in favour of an amnesty, considering they were the ones that did all the killings and and blowing up of various areas its not surprising. No amnesty for anyone that broke the law fullstop, the only way to get over all this crap is to make sure those that committed offences go to jail otherwise they will simply keep doing it.

you have forgotten that the courts determined that the military killed people in the temple, have you? You have forgotten that yellow shirts have killed and bombed, haven't you.

There was enough violence to go around and it was far from one side.

No one is going to enforce justice against yellow shirts or the army.

Of course if the 'PM' declares an amnesty, I'll be one of the most surprised. He is interested in suppression, not reconciliation.

You realize it was in self defense only after the reds shot the first shots and threw the first bombs dont you?

The military was taking serious abuse before they even tried to defend themselves.

Now go to the corner and dont say anything else unless you raise your hand.

[LuckyLew]

There will be no hope for an amnesty approval from this military junta, it's not inline for their quest to snuff out the last remnants of democracy. Instead we will see kangaroo type court cases trying their best imprison anyone they see as a threat. Nat is a freedom fighter with the vast majority of the population behind him, I wish him the best of luck.

Nat is a freedom fighter .... you are having a laugh

Just another paid muppet in the Shin gravy train

Could not care a less about anyone or anything ... only interested in personal gain

[longway]

_{For once I agree with Nattawud,, as long as amnesty does not apply to protest leaders of either side, its a very good idea. Let the poor sods out, they have been punished enough.}

_{You can't trust Thaksin with something like this, he will never let them get amnesty without inserting himself into it, he is too much of a cockroach.}

[Rumble]

First right the wrongs, second give the money back, third make a public apology in the Media, then perhaps amnesty can be considered.