Fatal car accident at The Mall Bang Kapi ruled an accident

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Fatal car accident at shopping mall ruled an accident
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Police investigation into the case of a woman being killed when her car hit a barrier on the third floor of a shopping mall's parking lot and plunging to the street below has been ruled as an accident. Apparently, a drinking water bottle was stuck under the brake pad and its head was on the accelerator.

The accident happened at The Mall Bang Kapi last month.

The national police chief's adviser on forensic science, Pol General Jaramporn Suramanee, said the car was working fine.

He said the victim was possibly trying to hit the brake, but couldn't and the top of the bottle was pressing on the accelerator, causing the car to rev up.

He also said that oil traces found at the scene came from a power steering wheel, and since the car's steering wheel was fine, it could not be related to the accident.

Urging people not to place water bottles or shoes on floor of the car as they could jam the brakes, Jarampong said car parks should have reinforced fencing so it does not buckle under a car's impact. He added that this should be imposed as a municipality regulation in the future.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Fatal-car-accident-at-shopping-mall-ruled-an-accid-30250699.html


-- The Nation 2014-12-26

[siampolee]

Actually seems totally plausible comment.There have been case where high heel shoes have caused similar mishaps as well as ''flip flops'' that have slipped off of peoples feet.

Personally I or perhaps I should say ''we'' have experienced the problem of empty water bottles rolling forward into the foot pedal area of the vehicles we have,

Thankfully there have been no problems for us though.Now every time a bottle is used it is put into the appropriate holder or placed if empty in the side pockets or a rubbish bag for safety.

[MaxLee]

Nasty nasty bottle, you block the breaks.. Nasty nasty bottle you dare to make police lose face,....

Edited December 26, 2014 by MaxLee

[JeremyBowskill]

So a car fell 3 stories and somehow the bottle didn't move from behind the break pedal? Where as this may well be the cause of the accident, I do doubt a bottle would stay still from a crash like that.

[kingalfred]

Waiting for the first one to say it was "murder,assination!!"

[alfalfa19]

I agree it was totally plausible. This is one case where I agree with the investigators. There was a case here in san diego where the floormat on a toyota did something similar, and an entire family was killed in the resulting rollover and fire.

[powerkick]

The obvious missing factor not mentioned in the report is the lack of competence and naivety of the driver. Once again if driver training had been mandatory and this particular point covered, then this and many other accidents could have been avoided, but sadly, not ALL accidents. You can't fix STUPID.

[Loles]

Bottle under your break pedal?

1. let the gas

2. use the hand-brake

3. use the steering wheel.

[ThaiSanookGuy]

Bottle under your break pedal?

1. let the gas

2. use the hand-brake

3. use the steering wheel.

Impossible ! They are born here, how do you want that they have any quick idea ?

[cooked]

Bottle under your break pedal?

1. let the gas

2. use the hand-brake

3. use the steering wheel.

Impossible ! They are born here, how do you want that they have any quick idea ?

Wow, really insightful comment there. This kind of thing happens all over the world.

[jaltsc]

Bottle under your break pedal?

1. let the gas

2. use the hand-brake

3. use the steering wheel.

Perhaps her high heels prevented her from easing up on the gas.

Perhaps she couldn't use the hand-brake because she didn't want to chip her newly polished finger nails

Perhaps she was unable to use the steering wheel because her she had a cup of coffee in one hand and was holding her cell phone in the other (Which might have been another reason she couldn't use the hand brake).

Sir, you have no idea of the sacrifices women make in order to make themselves physically beautiful. They wouldn't be caught dead with one hair out of place....ERRRH...Let me rephrase that...

[JOC]

Nasty nasty bottle, you block the breaks.. Nasty nasty bottle you dare to make police lose face,....

A late entry for most stupid post of the year award!!

[maximillian]

Waiting for the first one to say it was "murder,assination!!"

no more waiting. you just did.

[bangkokfrog]

The obvious missing factor not mentioned in the report is the lack of competence and naivety of the driver. Once again if driver training had been mandatory and this particular point covered, then this and many other accidents could have been avoided, but sadly, not ALL accidents. You can't fix STUPID.

Some people here can't resist a chance to knock Thailand and Thai people. I agree that Thailand needs better driver training, but can you tell me one country in the world that has a driving manual warning or driving test question about water bottles or the like? The real problem here is not the poor woman (or her reflexes for the other insensitive posters who want to make a joke about it), but the terrible building standards that allow car park crash barriers that aren't strong enough.

[JOC]

Bottle under your break pedal?

1. let the gas

2. use the hand-brake

3. use the steering wheel.

In a panic situation and in a tenth of a second you would have done all of the above??

You are my new hero Sir!!

[newcomer71]

Jarampong said car parks should have reinforced fencing so it does not buckle under a car's impact. He added that this should be imposed as a municipality regulation in the future.

OMG... This is not first time it happens a car smash a perimetral wall at a Dept. Store parking and crashing on the ground...

They should have reinforced every Mall containment wall long ago! And they still speak they should do something? When?

[snarky66]

Darwin award?

[Neeranam]

Bottle under your break pedal?

1. let the gas

2. use the hand-brake

3. use the steering wheel.

Impossible ! They are born here, how do you want that they have any quick idea ?

What a racist statement is it an attempt to be funny?

[Sviss Geez]

Nasty nasty bottle, you block the breaks.. Nasty nasty bottle you dare to make police lose face,....

Explain how the police have lost face.

[Sviss Geez]

So a car fell 3 stories and somehow the bottle didn't move from behind the break pedal? Where as this may well be the cause of the accident, I do doubt a bottle would stay still from a crash like that.

The forensic police are probably in a better position than you to determine whether the bottle could have been jammed under the brake pedal by the kind of force that someone desperately trying to stop her car from launching off the building.

[Sviss Geez]

The obvious missing factor not mentioned in the report is the lack of competence and naivety of the driver. Once again if driver training had been mandatory and this particular point covered, then this and many other accidents could have been avoided, but sadly, not ALL accidents. You can't fix STUPID.

You're right, you can't fix STUPID (posts). There is not one country, anywhere, whose driver training covers what to do if a water bottle gets jammed under the brake pedal and forces down on the accelerator causing uncontrolled acceleration.

[Sviss Geez]

Bottle under your break pedal?

1. let the gas

2. use the hand-brake

3. use the steering wheel.

Very good in theory but in practice...

1. The accelerator in this case was being forced down by the top of the jammed bottle.

2. Doubtful that the handbrake would be able to counteract the force of the front-driven wheels with the engine turning at the suggested 5,000rpm.

3. She probably was using the steering wheel to avoid hitting any more cars than she had already done.

Do all this in a panic over just a few seconds, the woman didn't have any warning about what was going to happen

[Sviss Geez]

Bottle under your break pedal?

1. let the gas

2. use the hand-brake

3. use the steering wheel.

Perhaps her high heels prevented her from easing up on the gas.

Perhaps she couldn't use the hand-brake because she didn't want to chip her newly polished finger nails

Perhaps she was unable to use the steering wheel because her she had a cup of coffee in one hand and was holding her cell phone in the other (Which might have been another reason she couldn't use the hand brake).

Sir, you have no idea of the sacrifices women make in order to make themselves physically beautiful. They wouldn't be caught dead with one hair out of place....ERRRH...Let me rephrase that...

Perhaps you shouldn't take the piss out of a woman who died in very unfortunate circumstances.

[JOC]

Darwin award?

Nominating yourself??

Got my vote!!

[Sviss Geez]

Darwin award?

Yes, for you.

[ThaiSanookGuy]

Bottle under your break pedal?

1. let the gas

2. use the hand-brake

3. use the steering wheel.

Impossible ! They are born here, how do you want that they have any quick idea ?

What a racist statement is it an attempt to be funny?

No, just facts, you just landed and still know nothing ? Or still dreaming ? Wait few more days and then you will know that it's not their main quality...

[ThaiSanookGuy]

The obvious missing factor not mentioned in the report is the lack of competence and naivety of the driver. Once again if driver training had been mandatory and this particular point covered, then this and many other accidents could have been avoided, but sadly, not ALL accidents. You can't fix STUPID.

You're right, you can't fix STUPID (posts). There is not one country, anywhere, whose driver training covers what to do if a water bottle gets jammed under the brake pedal and forces down on the accelerator causing uncontrolled acceleration.

Yes but in some countries people are careful enough and have enough "knowledge" to avoid that a bottle get stuck...

[lostinisaan]

Actually seems totally plausible comment.There have been case where high heel shoes have caused similar mishaps as well as ''flip flops'' that have slipped off of peoples feet.

Personally I or perhaps I should say ''we'' have experienced the problem of empty water bottles rolling forward into the foot pedal area of the vehicles we have,

Thankfully there have been no problems for us though.Now every time a bottle is used it is put into the appropriate holder or placed if empty in the side pockets or a rubbish bag for safety.

Do you really believe their story? Dr. Watson from TVF's already informed and we're awaiting his investigation outcome soon.

Would an ordinary plastic bottle be behind my brake pedal, I'd definitely have enough power to hit the brakes and squeeze the bottle enough to stop, or slow down.

Is it possible that she's just an ordinary female car driver like my wife? She had made her license, when I came back from a four months series of surgeries trip to Europe.

One day I let her drive and was asking her why she wouldn't switch into the 5th gear. She's just starring at me and understood nil.

The car where she had some lessons only had four gears. Usually women are better cooks, but when it comes to driving, well I guess you know...

P.S. You don't have to be blonde to be a bad driver !!!

Edited December 26, 2014 by lostinisaan

[SABloke]

Darwin award?

Nah...saving it for you

[Thian]

Yesterday while shopping in a big Central mall i went out for a smoke on the parking floor.

I noticed many cracks where the railing was poured into the concrete. This was on the 5 th floor. I didn't even dare to stand close to it. Just wait untill an accident like this happens to an important person.