some bars told to stop selling booze from 2 pm to 5 pm today

[dave2]

the police went round some bars near thaphae gate today and told them

to uphold the law and stop selling booze from 2 to 5 today !

some bars got round the problem the usual way but does any one know

why today ! ... is it / was it a buddha day ?

dave2

[ukrules]

If they had an alcohol license it would still be on sale.

There must be a crackdown going on or something because today is is just a regular day in Thailand.

It looks like they're taking the existing rule for retailers like 7/11 and applying it to bars.

[Anthony5]

By law they are not allowed to sell alcohol between those hours, the same laws for bars as retailers.

[ukrules]

By law they are not allowed to sell alcohol between those hours, the same laws for bars as retailers.

This is simply not true.

[Anthony5]

By law they are not allowed to sell alcohol between those hours, the same laws for bars as retailers.

This is simply not true.

Will this do it for you ?

According to the Alcohol Beverage Control Act B.E.2551 (2008 A.D.), under section 28 it states that: “Sale of alcohol beverage is prohibited on the date or time announced by the Minister with consent of the Committee. In this regard, such announcement may indicate conditions and restrictions as deemed necessary.

The provision in Paragraph 1 above shall not apply to sale of alcohol beverage by manufacturer, importers or agents to the sellers authorized by the law governing liquor.”

Such act were based on the Announcement Number 253 (dated November 16, B.E. 2515) (1973 A.D.) made by the Council for National Security.

The recent announcement identified eligible hours for retail sales of alcoholic beverages to be between 11.00a.m. to 02.00p.m. and between 05.00p.m. to 00.00a.m.

From this interpretation, only for Liquor Store Wholesalers would be eligible to sell (that is no less than 10 litres per transaction). If less than this, such shall be considered as retailing and a violation of the law. This includes sales of alcohol at a restaurant.

Exceptions were made for Hotel Businesses, airports, train stations, Terminal bus stations, piers (but they must obtain prior approval which can be made at the Local Police Station which is then to be forwarded to Commissioner of the National Police Office). There is no general exception for a restaurant just because they sell food with their alcoholic beverages as is often stated but not so under the actual law.

[ukrules]

By law they are not allowed to sell alcohol between those hours, the same laws for bars as retailers.

This is simply not true.

Will this do it for you ?

According to the Alcohol Beverage Control Act B.E.2551 (2008 A.D.), under section 28 it states that: “Sale of alcohol beverage is prohibited on the date or time announced by the Minister with consent of the Committee. In this regard, such announcement may indicate conditions and restrictions as deemed necessary.

The provision in Paragraph 1 above shall not apply to sale of alcohol beverage by manufacturer, importers or agents to the sellers authorized by the law governing liquor.”

Such act were based on the Announcement Number 253 (dated November 16, B.E. 2515) (1973 A.D.) made by the Council for National Security.

The recent announcement identified eligible hours for retail sales of alcoholic beverages to be between 11.00a.m. to 02.00p.m. and between 05.00p.m. to 00.00a.m.

From this interpretation, only for Liquor Store Wholesalers would be eligible to sell (that is no less than 10 litres per transaction). If less than this, such shall be considered as retailing and a violation of the law. This includes sales of alcohol at a restaurant.

Exceptions were made for Hotel Businesses, airports, train stations, Terminal bus stations, piers (but they must obtain prior approval which can be made at the Local Police Station which is then to be forwarded to Commissioner of the National Police Office). There is no general exception for a restaurant just because they sell food with their alcoholic beverages as is often stated but not so under the actual law.

If you have a license then you can sell it outside these hours. I'm talking about a proper license which must be displayed on the wall.

There are separate licenses for alcohol, food and tobacco.

[Anthony5]

By law they are not allowed to sell alcohol between those hours, the same laws for bars as retailers.

This is simply not true.

Will this do it for you ?

According to the Alcohol Beverage Control Act B.E.2551 (2008 A.D.), under section 28 it states that: “Sale of alcohol beverage is prohibited on the date or time announced by the Minister with consent of the Committee. In this regard, such announcement may indicate conditions and restrictions as deemed necessary.

The provision in Paragraph 1 above shall not apply to sale of alcohol beverage by manufacturer, importers or agents to the sellers authorized by the law governing liquor.”

Such act were based on the Announcement Number 253 (dated November 16, B.E. 2515) (1973 A.D.) made by the Council for National Security.

The recent announcement identified eligible hours for retail sales of alcoholic beverages to be between 11.00a.m. to 02.00p.m. and between 05.00p.m. to 00.00a.m.

From this interpretation, only for Liquor Store Wholesalers would be eligible to sell (that is no less than 10 litres per transaction). If less than this, such shall be considered as retailing and a violation of the law. This includes sales of alcohol at a restaurant.

Exceptions were made for Hotel Businesses, airports, train stations, Terminal bus stations, piers (but they must obtain prior approval which can be made at the Local Police Station which is then to be forwarded to Commissioner of the National Police Office). There is no general exception for a restaurant just because they sell food with their alcoholic beverages as is often stated but not so under the actual law.

If you have a license then you can sell it outside these hours. I'm talking about a proper license which must be displayed on the wall.

There are separate licenses for alcohol, food and tobacco.

So now you gone claim that restaurants don't have a license?

Exceptions were made for Hotel Businesses, airports, train stations, Terminal bus stations, piers

Do you see restaurants or bars mentioned in the line above?

Next

[ukrules]

If you have a license then you can sell it outside these hours. I'm talking about a proper license which must be displayed on the wall.

There are separate licenses for alcohol, food and tobacco.

So now you gone claim that restaurants don't have a license?

Exceptions were made for Hotel Businesses, airports, train stations, Terminal bus stations, piers

Do you see restaurants or bars mentioned in the line above?

Next

Whatever, I know for sure you can get a license to sell alcohol outside these times as I know someone who's got one.

[Anthony5]

If you have a license then you can sell it outside these hours. I'm talking about a proper license which must be displayed on the wall.

There are separate licenses for alcohol, food and tobacco.

So now you gone claim that restaurants don't have a license?

Exceptions were made for Hotel Businesses, airports, train stations, Terminal bus stations, piers

Do you see restaurants or bars mentioned in the line above?

Next

Whatever, I know for sure you can get a license to sell alcohol outside these times as I know someone who's got one.

Fine for me, I'm sure you can post a link to the relevant law, as I did.

I know someone who has a license to drive against traffic flow. Actually I know a lot of them

[theDukes]

If you have a license then you can sell it outside these hours. I'm talking about a proper license which must be displayed on the wall.

There are separate licenses for alcohol, food and tobacco.

So now you gone claim that restaurants don't have a license?

Exceptions were made for Hotel Businesses, airports, train stations, Terminal bus stations, piers

Do you see restaurants or bars mentioned in the line above?

Next

Whatever, I know for sure you can get a license to sell alcohol outside these times as I know someone who's got one.

Sure you do. Not possible. Check your facts.

End of story. The cops crack down once in a while. Maybe it's a payoff thing. After all... it's the New Year! Everyone needs money for the Holidays.

[eyecatcher]

I can never understand the Makro/Tesco rule.

I take a 4 pack of spy for 119bt to the checkout and they check the clock then confiscate it.

Yet the guy behind me has a dozen boxes of beer etc and yet thats ok.

One rule for the rich and another for me

[Anthony5]

I can never understand the Makro/Tesco rule.

I take a 4 pack of spy for 119bt to the checkout and they check the clock then confiscate it.

Yet the guy behind me has a dozen boxes of beer etc and yet thats ok.

One rule for the rich and another for me

One rule for wholesale and another for retail.

[Chiengmaijoe]

I can never understand the Makro/Tesco rule.

I take a 4 pack of spy for 119bt to the checkout and they check the clock then confiscate it.

Yet the guy behind me has a dozen boxes of beer etc and yet thats ok.

One rule for the rich and another for me

More than ten litres is wholesle. Simple.

[Loaded]

Big C beer garden has stopped selling between 2 and 5pm. And the girls no longer wear their Singha/Chang mini skirts.

[koosdeboer]

Big C beer garden has stopped selling between 2 and 5pm. And the girls no longer wear their Singha/Chang mini skirts.

Yesterday evening the promotion girls in big c hang dong with Singh a chang miniskirts.

[LivinLOS]

If you have a license then you can sell it outside these hours. I'm talking about a proper license which must be displayed on the wall.

There are separate licenses for alcohol, food and tobacco.

But is there any difference in the license a mom and pop is supposed to have and a bar (usually) has ??

My wifes mate had a store and got an alcohol retail license.. They had a low key bar out front at nighttime.. Was the same store cum bar etc all on one license. AFAIK there is simply one form of alcohol retail license, not one for shops, one for bars, one for restaurants.

The rule as I understand it is no retail.. That rule is routinely ignored by bars.. But still the actual rule.

[masuk]

I can never understand the Makro/Tesco rule.

I take a 4 pack of spy for 119bt to the checkout and they check the clock then confiscate it.

Yet the guy behind me has a dozen boxes of beer etc and yet thats ok.

One rule for the rich and another for me

Happened to me at TOPS yesterday. Decided to lash out for the festive season and buy a 4 litre red wine.

Got to the check out, and she pointed at the time on her cash register: 14:01. "Cannot buy"!

[CMKiwi]

Yes some shops are real sticklers when it comes to timings. Even if you were in the queue before the cut off. Ma and Pa shops tend to have their own rules. ...ie there aren't any.

[Throatwobbler]

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Yes some shops are real sticklers when it comes to timings. Even if you were in the queue before the cut off. Ma and Pa shops tend to have their own rules. ...ie there aren't any.

I think the shops that are sticklers for the timings have electronic tills. A register will be kept of what is sold at what time.

[CMKiwi]

Very good point. And no doubt the authorities would love to go over those in order to extort tea money. Either that or the cashier may get sacked by their employer for breaking the law. IMO its a crazy rule/law to start with. If people want booze they will get it via one means or another. I think it's just an inconvenience in reality.

[Sparkles]

I can never understand the Makro/Tesco rule.

I take a 4 pack of spy for 119bt to the checkout and they check the clock then confiscate it.

Yet the guy behind me has a dozen boxes of beer etc and yet thats ok.

One rule for the rich and another for me

Nothing to do with rich or poor,its Thai logic. The authorities are helping us not to become raving alcoholics Not just Makro/Tesco....Big C, Rimping etc etc

After time here you sort of work your way round it by going to a Mom and Pop store,any day ,any time, but don't expect there to be a choice of wine.

Spy is best described as fizzy cordial but Thais call it wine.

[WinnieTheKhwai]

I take a 4 pack of spy for 119bt to the checkout and they check the clock then confiscate it.

Spy is best described as fizzy cordial but Thais call it wine.

Yes. I think they did him a favor. Some people need protection from themselves or they start doing silly stuff like drinking Spy Wine Cooler.

( EDIT: Although I admit it does have a purpose in getting young women drunk. )

[Mapguy]

I can never understand the Makro/Tesco rule.

I take a 4 pack of spy for 119bt to the checkout and they check the clock then confiscate it.

Yet the guy behind me has a dozen boxes of beer etc and yet thats ok.

One rule for the rich and another for me

Happened to me at TOPS yesterday. Decided to lash out for the festive season and buy a 4 litre red wine.

Got to the check out, and she pointed at the time on her cash register: 14:01. "Cannot buy"!

10 ltr rule.

[masuk]

I can never understand the Makro/Tesco rule.

I take a 4 pack of spy for 119bt to the checkout and they check the clock then confiscate it.

Yet the guy behind me has a dozen boxes of beer etc and yet thats ok.

One rule for the rich and another for me

Nothing to do with rich or poor,its Thai logic. The authorities are helping us not to become raving alcoholics Not just Makro/Tesco....Big C, Rimping etc etc

After time here you sort of work your way round it by going to a Mom and Pop store,any day ,any time, but don't expect there to be a choice of wine.

Spy is best described as fizzy cordial but Thais call it wine.

That is why they are protecting the Thai "Wine" industry, with incredible duty and taxes.

[dave2]

re

the police went round some bars near thaphae gate today and told them

to uphold the law and stop selling booze from 2 to 5 today !

and again today !

i was in a bar just after 2 and they sent a girl staff member who speaks no english to a fella outside to ask him to put his beer ( bought before 2 pm ) in a plastic cup but he didnt understand she was staff and he thought she was begging

so they asked me to explain what she wanted and after i explained to him that he / they would be breaking the law he happily aggreed straight away and his beer went in the plastic cup

the bottle and glass dissapeared behind the counter and everyone was happy

dave2

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[stoli]

A year ago I ate at The Hot Pot chain restaurant in a shopping mall in Bangkok. They would not serve me a beer with my meal because it was 3pm. First and only time I have ever had this happen in a restaurant, but then again, I rarely go to a chain restaurant.

[theDukes]

I'm wondering ukrules if your friend doesn't have a hotel? Do Guest Houses also qualify to be exempt?

Any way around the provisions besides the obvious.

[dave2]

i walked past a bar near thaphae gate about 3 ish today and the paper cups are still being used and they had even taken all the check bin pots off the tables so no one could pick it up and read what they were drinking

alcahol and smoking are banned at thaphae for the new year countdown as usual but theres no mention of

no fireworks or khom loy

lanterns being let off

dave2

ps ... in another soi not far away beer bottles and glasses were on the tables in bars with no problems ! ... go figure ?

[Ulysses G.]

I don't smoke and I hardly ever drink, but those signs barring it at Thapae Gate really get on my nerves. Western political correctness has a lot to answer for.

[Mapguy]

Western notions of "political correctness?" I doubt that the Women's Christian Temperance Union has anything to do with it, either. It is simply that the police are trying to cool things down in advance in an area that might get quite rowdy celebrating the New Year.

Now, if they would ban polystyrene food containers in that area during the New Years celebration, that would also be helpful --- and certainly "politically correct." Actually to ban them altogether would be a welcome improvement on the landscape.

A question? Doesn't there seem to be a constant inordinate amount of interest on this site with drinking and bars?