NLA committee to host seminar on Thai police reform

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NLA committee to host seminar on police reform



BANGKOK, 7 January 2015 (NNT) – A National Legislative Assembly (NLA) committee is set to host a seminar on the overhaul of the Royal Thai Police.

Admiral Sithawat Wongsuwan, who is the chairman of the NLA committee on justice and police affairs, said that the committee will be hosting a seminar titled “the Reform of the Royal Thai Police” on January 13.

The seminar is intended to allow all related individuals and parties to share their information and problems about the work of the national police bureau before all suggestions are incorporated into the formulation of the reform plan for the police force.

Admiral Sithawat said that the planned discussion will focus on such issues as the delegation of power of the national police bureau, the transfer of some responsibilities to other state agencies, the bureau’s policy planning and control of its personnel, and the promotion of participation by local communities in the police affairs.


-- NNT 2015-01-07

[Stradavarius37]

I suppose - Fire/Imprison them all -is not an option?

[WhizBang]

Just more hot air. They are trying to look like they are doing something, even though nothing meaningful will actually be done.

[Costas2008]

Just more hot air. They are trying to look like they are doing something, even though nothing meaningful will actually be done.

These are the silly answers that we get.

Oh.....wise one, please enlighten us as to why it's hot air?

They started putting an effort to reform the police, that was never done before during the Siwanatra or Adhesit years.

And for you to understand I quote

"The seminar is intended to allow all related individuals and parties to share their information and problems about the work of the national police bureau before all suggestions are incorporated into the formulation of the reform plan for the police force."

That is the proper way to start and not just fire or imprison anybody as the other wise poster suggested.

[noitom]

This is the Thai analogy of putting the fox in the chicken coop.

[Just1Voice]

You want to reform the Thai Police? Simple. Fire all of them. Every last one of them. Let the soldiers do the job for a while. (The couldn't do any worse!). Then bring in experts from Hong Kong and Singapore police departments and start a totally new recruitment process. Train them what it REALLY means to be a police officer. Only hire half as many as the worthless bodies now employed, and give the new ones double the salary they now get.

Make steadfast, iron clad rules if instant termination and prison for ANY corruption, no matter how big or small, and no matter who it involves.

Teach them how to be REAL police, who can take pride in the uniform they wear.

Other than that, anything else is a total waste of time.

[brucec64]

This reform is focused on the high level control of the RTP, and is part of the reform focus to ensure that the Shins cannot control the country again. It does not appear to actually reform the actual workings of the RTP, and it will be corruption as usual, but now under control by the new powers in Thailand.

[MaxLee]

You want to reform the Thai Police? Simple. Fire all of them. Every last one of them. Let the soldiers do the job for a while. (The couldn't do any worse!). Then bring in experts from Hong Kong and Singapore police departments and start a totally new recruitment process. Train them what it REALLY means to be a police officer. Only hire half as many as the worthless bodies now employed, and give the new ones double the salary they now get.

Make steadfast, iron clad rules if instant termination and prison for ANY corruption, no matter how big or small, and no matter who it involves.

Teach them how to be REAL police, who can take pride in the uniform they wear.

Other than that, anything else is a total waste of time.

The military controls the police, so I'd say nothing else will happen, except some inactive posts

[Cuchulainn]

Disband and start all over again.

[iReason]

Can they start at the top?

And have Police Chief Somyat explain his enormous wealth acquired while working as a public servant?

Especially his purchase of B365mil in stock options shortly after making nice with his new buddy in Koh Tao?

[Eric Loh]

Why don't made it two in one seminar - police and army reform.

[rickirs]

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Just more hot air. They are trying to look like they are doing something, even though nothing meaningful will actually be done.

These are the silly answers that we get.

Oh.....wise one, please enlighten us as to why it's hot air?

They started putting an effort to reform the police, that was never done before during the Siwanatra or Adhesit years.

And for you to understand I quote

"The seminar is intended to allow all related individuals and parties to share their information and problems about the work of the national police bureau before all suggestions are incorporated into the formulation of the reform plan for the police force."

That is the proper way to start and not just fire or imprison anybody as the other wise poster suggested.

Yes, one must be positive. If the Navy can't work out a viable plan, well there's always the next coup for another general or admiral to try.

[bangon04]

You want to reform the Thai Police? Simple. Fire all of them. Every last one of them. Let the soldiers do the job for a while. (The couldn't do any worse!). Then bring in experts from Hong Kong and Singapore police departments and start a totally new recruitment process. Train them what it REALLY means to be a police officer. Only hire half as many as the worthless bodies now employed, and give the new ones double the salary they now get.

Make steadfast, iron clad rules if instant termination and prison for ANY corruption, no matter how big or small, and no matter who it involves.

Teach them how to be REAL police, who can take pride in the uniform they wear.

Other than that, anything else is a total waste of time.

It has worked in Hong Kong.... until 1997 now it is going downhill again...

[rickirs]

How appropriate - a fake organization hosting a seminar on the reform of another fake organization.

[scorecard]

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You want to reform the Thai Police? Simple. Fire all of them. Every last one of them. Let the soldiers do the job for a while. (The couldn't do any worse!). Then bring in experts from Hong Kong and Singapore police departments and start a totally new recruitment process. Train them what it REALLY means to be a police officer. Only hire half as many as the worthless bodies now employed, and give the new ones double the salary they now get.

Make steadfast, iron clad rules if instant termination and prison for ANY corruption, no matter how big or small, and no matter who it involves.

Teach them how to be REAL police, who can take pride in the uniform they wear.

Other than that, anything else is a total waste of time.

It has worked in Hong Kong.... until 1997 now it is going downhill again...

Does that mean that reform absolutely does not work?

The truth is that every police force goes through ups and downs and at regular intervals needs reform and strict medicine and a 'weed out' to find and dismiss the rotten apples.

The NSW state police force in Australia a good example.

[Eric Loh]

If Singapore and Hong Kong are good examples, we should acknowledged what they do different. Both these countries were rooted with police corruption in the past but adopted some key changes in their salary structure and working condition, recruitment and selection, training that instill value and integrity and socialization. But most important is the political will. For Singapore, certainly Lee Kuan Yew unyielding will to stem out corruption was paramount. The junta has set the course, up to successive governments to continue with the political will to reform police corruption.

[rubl]

Why don't made it two in one seminar - police and army reform.

Good question, Eric!

Answer: needs to wait till the NCPO/NLA steps down as we cannot do without some functioning government and 'police like' force for order. Same answer on the question why not all of government officials were sacked, some bureaucracy needs to be present to prevent chaos and anarchy.

[rubl]

How appropriate - a fake organization hosting a seminar on the reform of another fake organization.

A fake organisation? Pray elaborate. What organisation do you call fake and why?

[bangrak]

Nothing to 'reform'! Total loss! Start afresh! ...But 'change' the concept (to: 'to protect and serve', the citizens, why not?)!

[rubl]

If Singapore and Hong Kong are good examples, we should acknowledged what they do different. Both these countries were rooted with police corruption in the past but adopted some key changes in their salary structure and working condition, recruitment and selection, training that instill value and integrity and socialization. But most important is the political will. For Singapore, certainly Lee Kuan Yew unyielding will to stem out corruption was paramount. The junta has set the course, up to successive governments to continue with the political will to reform police corruption.

'the junta has set the course'? I assume you're not suggesting successive governments be like the Singapore government? I thought we all wanted democracy like in the Western World ?

[smutcakes]

So the head of the NLA Committee on police and justice affairs, selected by the NCPO, just happens to be the younger brother of Deputy PM and serial meddler Prawit.

So in our search for the end of cronyism & a reform Committee in no way beholden to the NCPO we have:

Defence Minister; Gereral Prawit Wongsuwan

Chairman of the police service commission: General Prawit Wongsuwan

Chairman of the NLA Committee on reform of justice and police affairs Admiral Sithawat Wongsuwan

Anyone wanting offer odds that there might be places in the upper ends of power for messrs Patcharawat Wongsuwan and his other sibling Phongphan Wongsuwan?