12 dead in attack on Paris newspaper; France goes on alert

[Fab5BKK]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11329976/Paris-Charlie-Hebdo-attack-live.html

[Fab5BKK]

http://live.reuters.com/Event/World_News

[monkey dog]

Savages!

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"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf"

- George Orwell

strange that the rough men dont get a mention/reference in the main reply

[Fab5BKK]

Edited January 7, 2015 by Fab5BKK

[llz]

Europe opened its borders and this is the result.

If this happened in Russia or China we know justice would be swift.

When border controls are relaxed then the world criminals can just walk in.

Paris has a large population of non French speakers with no work and living on benefits.

The devil makes work for idle hands.

As I said earlier...wolf in the hen coop.

On benefits and/or on crime, trafficking, theft and so on.

Say this publicly in France and you will be thrown to the dogs by the left-wing as well as the right-wing politicians and by every mainstream media.

All we can hope is that the death of so many people will make France and Europe wake up, and not only to pretend to do something by fear of far-right factions. But why am I not holding my breath ?

[i claudius]

Will we see a Paris protest march against Islam rallies soon ?

Off course not. That would be racist.

No Not Britain,where you would be arrested,it's France I am surprised that the BBC are not telling us how real Muslims hate this sort of thing and to hug one

[Asiantravel]

You condone deliberate provocation, deliberate offense?

I condone freedom of the press and freedom of speech, and I condone fighting for it if necessary.

But what if satirising their religion is considered by some to be a form of racism?

Racist? Ignorant. Arabs are Caucasian. White French are Caucasian. I'm Caucasian.

Please explain your thinking AFTER you get out of the way of the real men who can deal with these bastards.

Please explain my thinking?

Well the world in which we live seems appallingly hypocritical because some parties that cheerlead freedom of expression on this forum are the first ones to cry foul when it affects their own " group ".

“ Racism consists of both prejudice and discrimination based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples. It often takes the form of social actions, practices or beliefs "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

[JDGRUEN]

Many photos and video -- tough to look at

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2900259/Gunmen-kill-11-Charlie-Hebdo-attack.html

[Ulysses G.]

Savages!

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"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf"

- George Orwell

strange that the rough men dont get a mention/reference in the main reply

The rough men are out hunting these radical, Islamic, terrorist scum.

[Bakeman]

I posted yesterday that the world needs to wake up.

I agree MRTOAD "Another Bunch of murdering Muslims. Religion of peace, my ass"

Now who is going to do something to change or end this destructive religion?.........SOUND OF CRICKETS

Now who is going to do something to change or end this destructive religion?

No one because the French people are unarmed. This incident proves that the police can't always handle everything. Europe has sold its soul to the PC brainwashers.

France is already 20% Muslim.

5-4-3-2-

5 to 11% according to different studies.

That above percentage was in 2011

The CIA World Factbook places it at 5–10%.^[7]

A Pew Forum study, published in January 2011, estimated 4.7 million Muslims in France in 2010 (and forecasted 6.9 million in 2030).^[8]

[H1w4yR1da]

Please explain my thinking?

Well the world in which we live seems appallingly hypocritical because some parties that cheerlead freedom of expression on this forum are the first ones to cry foul when it affects their own " group ".

“ Racism consists of both prejudice and discrimination based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples. It often takes the form of social actions, practices or beliefs "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

What on earth are you prattling on about?

The only 'hypocrites' here are people like yourself playing the race card.

[Morch]

This is abhorrent. Extremism must be stamped out. Finally and with no mercy.

It's just a pity that the IGNORANT masses, all Charlie Hedbo readers included, think that a single religion consists of all extremists.

Damage control won't cut it.

There are just so many times a sales pitch can be used.

People see what they see, hard to convince them it is not real when it's right there.

Doesn't help much to call everyone ignorant, at least not with more photos coming in.

It does not matter, now, that Islam is not all extremists. It does matter who sets the tone, and that's definitely them.

Not wishing for it in the slightest, but got to appreciate so far no anti-Muslim riots in France now.

[Kitsune]

REP Cabus

[Asiantravel]

it's pretty simple

printing cartoons like this is considered by some to equate to religious intolerance

I would like to know why it only applies to some groups and not others

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2003/mar/05/theindependent.middleeastthemedia

Edited January 7, 2015 by Asiantravel

[Thai at Heart]

Apparenlty they forced a female employee to open the coded door to get entry to the buildind. They spoke to her claiming that they were Al Qaeda.

I really am not surprised if there isn't a massive backlash about this and i don't care if there is. I have had enough of the supposedly innocent Muslim majority saying virtually nothing about these types of events.

Have been watching Sky News for an hour now, as yet not a peep out of any Muslim authorities speaking out against this event.

Je suis Charlie!!!!

[Morch]

Sick !

I agree with people saying this was not terrorism. I think this is war.

I wouldn't be surprised if the two are ISIS fighters who came back to France.

some possible actions coming to mind:

- send the foreign legion to help the Kurds against ISIS. The legion can do the fighting and the Kurds can control the liberated territory

- State-subsidise a new Charlie Hebdo with offices located within a secure location

Would make more sense to simply tighten up immigration and domestic security. Sending the Foreign Legion will to Iraq will not help much with similar attacks.

Charlie Hebdo as a state subsidized outfit? If this comment was not made under such tragic circumstances it would have been comic.

[monkey dog]

Savages!

................

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf"

- George Orwell

strange that the rough men dont get a mention/reference in the main reply

The rough men are out hunting these radical, Islamic, terrorist scum.

ugg! but isnt that what they claim to have been doing for more than a decade? or was that just the warm up period? speak truthfully, do you see these "rough men" delivering this peaceful sleeping any time in the next 50 years, pardon me but all i see is it just getting worse and worse and worse, spreading to more and more countries, over 20 countries at last count.

[copa8]

Europe opened its borders and this is the result.

If this happened in Russia or China we know justice would be swift.

When border controls are relaxed then the world criminals can just walk in.

Paris has a large population of non French speakers with no work and living on benefits.

The devil makes work for idle hands.

As I said earlier...wolf in the hen coop.

Many instances of Islamic attacks (knives, machetes, explosives) in western China. But the Western media usually labels them "freedom fighters" and not terrorists.

[Kitsune]

REP Charb

Edited January 7, 2015 by Kitsune

[Thai at Heart]

The world would be a better place without any religion.

Here we are in the 21st century with people still believing in historic mumbo jumbo.

I will believe in god, any god,when he turns up to prove his case.

In my book religion is brainwashing of the masses.

Muhammed was a man.

Strikes me, that blindly following man is also a bit of a problem. These people who did this are brainless animals. Any fundamentalist of any description is a problem. it is just that it seems that Muslims are willing to shoot me for my opinion.

I hope they catch these animals and spirit them away to a camp somewhere and make them suffer. Honestly I do.They don't deserve a trial.

[Morch]

Time for another series of crusades me thinks

This attack and the previous ones were in-country, and apparently carried out by residents/citizens/whatever.

The point being that sending the troops away is all very fine, the issues are first and foremost at the home front.

Horse. Carriage.

[Ulysses G.]

Savages!

................

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf"

- George Orwell

strange that the rough men dont get a mention/reference in the main reply

The rough men are out hunting these radical, Islamic, terrorist scum.

ugg! but isnt that what they claim to have been doing for more than a decade? or was that just the warm up period? speak truthfully, do you see these "rough men" delivering this peaceful sleeping any time in the next 50 years, pardon me but all i see is it just getting worse and worse and worse, spreading to more and more countries, over 20 countries at last count.

There has been conflict since mankind arrived on the planet. All you can do is contain evil, not stamp it out completely, but radical Islam is out of control and needs to to be dealt with now.

[Morch]

When is Europe going to wake up God is getting even they killed the Jews now their Muslims are killing them

Europe wake up

It is already to late to wake up.This social experiment was bound to fail from the start and there is no way to reverse it,unfortunately.

It`s already a war among us and the only way we can contain is to go after these extremist and their supporters SS-style !!

Really? Concentration camps and all that?

[Kitsune]

Apparently Charb was the target ...

The terrorists were asking where to find him.

[Yahooka]

When is Europe going to wake up God is getting even they killed the Jews now their Muslims are killing them

Europe wake up

It is already to late to wake up.This social experiment was bound to fail from the start and there is no way to reverse it,unfortunately.

It`s already a war among us and the only way we can contain is to go after these extremist and their supporters SS-style !!

Really? Concentration camps and all that?

Don`t be silly .

[baboon]

The world would be a better place without any religion.

Here we are in the 21st century with people still believing in historic mumbo jumbo.

I will believe in god, any god,when he turns up to prove his case.

In my book religion is brainwashing of the masses.

Muhammed was a man.

Strikes me, that blindly following man is also a bit of a problem. These people who did this are brainless animals. Any fundamentalist of any description is a problem. it is just that it seems that Muslims are willing to shoot me for my opinion.

I hope they catch these animals and spirit them away to a camp somewhere and make them suffer. Honestly I do.They don't deserve a trial.

Yes they do. That is what separates civilisation from reactionary animals - transparency, logic and reason, in conjunction with rough men ready to do violence on our behalf.

[Jingthing]

it's pretty simple

printing cartoons like this is considered by some to equate to religious intolerance

I would like to know why it only applies to some groups and not others

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2003/mar/05/theindependent.middleeastthemedia

Being offended is one thing.

Murdering people because you're offended is entirely a different thing.

If you're trying to equate being offended by antisemitic cartoons with what happened today, you're barking up the wrong tree.

But typical to try to divert this news event in Paris to be about Jews.

[Morch]

it's pretty simple

printing cartoons like this is considered by some to equate to religious intolerance

I would like to know why it only applies to some groups and not others

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2003/mar/05/theindependent.middleeastthemedia

They posted cartoons dealing with Catholics and Jews as well, over the years.

There were no massacres reported.

It is not a crime to print these cartoons in France, else they would have been banned long ago.

There are no violent attacks on Muslims in France when certain cartoons are published in various Muslim media outlets out of country. And to be clear, there are plenty of offensive ones to pick from.

[Morch]

Apparently Charb was the target ...

The terrorists were asking where to find him.

Charlie Hebdo cartoonist murdered in Paris terrorist attack was on al-Qaeda wanted list Stéphane Charbonnier had received death threats and lived under police protection

French cartoonist Charb, publishing director of French satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo Photo: EPA

By Victoria Ward

1:52PM GMT 07 Jan 2015

Stéphane Charbonnier, the Charlie Hebdo publishing director and cartoonist, was on an al Qaeda "wanted" list and lived under police protection.

The editor, who used the pen name Charb, defended the Prophet Muhammad cartoons that caused outrage in the Muslim world.

In 2013, his name was included in a Wanted Dead or Alive for Crimes Against Islam article published by Inspire, the terrorist propaganda magazine published by al Qaida.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11330505/Murdered-Charlie-Hebdo-cartoonist-was-on-al-Qaeda-wanted-list.html

[Kitsune]

Never let terrorism silence you.

Edited January 7, 2015 by Kitsune