lucky11 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 "I am not Charlie, I am Ahmed the dead cop. Charlie ridiculed my faith and culture and I died defending his right to do so," wrote one Twitter follower under the name Dyab Abou Jahjah. If you don't know who Abou Jahjah is see here: http://www.aboujahjah.org/articles-and-blog/category/israeli-crimes He is a weekly columnist at Flemish newspaper "De Standaard" and he teaches Politcal Science at Université Catholique Louvain. Guess he is Moslim, pro Palestine and anti Israël...just an other nutter. Hang about!! He is perfectly entitled to his views, is he not - it is his democratic right to speak out, just as the dead journalists were in taunting these radical Muslims and winding them up. If he is a 'nutter' as you imply, then so were these journalists playing this deadly game, they knew the dangers didn't they. Just as Russian roulette isn't a particularly wise game to play, neither is denigrating the Muslim religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oziex1 Posted January 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2015 The best way to prevent it is not to do the things that provoke it. Precisely!! It is clear that these radical islamists carry out these atrocities because people ridicule their religion, and worse still,these misguided journalists rubbed their faces in it by taunting them on Facebook and Twitter - its as if they seemed to treat it as a game of dare or a challenge of 'come and get me if you can'. Well they did and lost!! They died because of this and only have themselves to blame for it. I hope that the journalists families give a thought about the innocent civilians that lost their lives because of this continual baiting by these reckless individuals. All of these protests and marches are irrelevant and they (those journalists) are not deserving of them. I have no sympathy for these irresponsible journalists, only the innocent civilians that paid for their lives in this unnecessary and dangerous game played out in the warped minds of idiots hiding behind democracy and the flawed blanket 'freedom of speech' ideals that the Americans so love and cherish. No, we can not live in fear of them, if they had maturity and intellegence cartoons would not concern them. Monty Python did a job on Christianity 30 years ago some didn't like it but got over it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 "I am not Charlie, I am Ahmed the dead cop. Charlie ridiculed my faith and culture and I died defending his right to do so," wrote one Twitter follower under the name Dyab Abou Jahjah. If you don't know who Abou Jahjah is see here: http://www.aboujahjah.org/articles-and-blog/category/israeli-crimes He is a weekly columnist at Flemish newspaper "De Standaard" and he teaches Politcal Science at Université Catholique Louvain. Guess he is Moslim, pro Palestine and anti Israël...just an other nutter. Hang about!! He is perfectly entitled to his views, is he not - it is his democratic right to speak out, just as the dead journalists were in taunting these radical Muslims and winding them up. If he is a 'nutter' as you imply, then so were these journalists playing this deadly game, they knew the dangers didn't they. Just as Russian roulette isn't a particularly wise game to play, neither is denigrating the Muslim religion. Did someone say he is not entitled to his views? Was there a squad of the TVF Anti-Freedom-of-Speech-Front (Phuket branch) storming his workplace? People get offended, they write words, draw images, protest. Other people get offended, they shoot other people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 The best way to prevent it is not to do the things that provoke it. Lets ban Christmas while we are at it. You miss the point entirely, which is about not provoking terrorism, and above all not participating in it ourselves. So basically your saying let violence, or fear of violence, set the boundaries. Hope we're not neighbors. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsune Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 The best way to prevent it is not to do the things that provoke it. Lets ban Christmas while we are at it. Charb said : If we stop guarding the frontiers of republic, we can just all leave the place and give them our country Je suis Charlie And what the heck does that mean? The people that got him were from within. I don't think that the Collected Thoughts and Wisdom of Chairman Charbs are going to be of much use in these circumstances. Unless, of course, he was talking about some "airy-fairy frontier of the soul or mind." And even then it's about as useful as tits on a bull. It means that Republic and democracy are a daily fight. They are not granted anymore. Everyday you have people telling us what to do and not to do. If they stop making sure crazy fanatics are not stepping over our rights, we can just leave the place/country and hand them the keys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ggold Posted January 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) The best way to prevent it is not to do the things that provoke it. Lets ban Christmas while we are at it. You miss the point entirely, which is about not provoking terrorism, and above all not participating in it ourselves. terrorist don't need provoking. What did the People in the Kosher supermarket do to provoke these scum? Other than being JEWISH! Edited January 12, 2015 by ggold 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 "I am not Charlie, I am Ahmed the dead cop. Charlie ridiculed my faith and culture and I died defending his right to do so," wrote one Twitter follower under the name Dyab Abou Jahjah. If you don't know who Abou Jahjah is see here: http://www.aboujahjah.org/articles-and-blog/category/israeli-crimes He is a weekly columnist at Flemish newspaper "De Standaard" and he teaches Politcal Science at Université Catholique Louvain. Guess he is Moslim, pro Palestine and anti Israël...just an other nutter. Hang about!! He is perfectly entitled to his views, is he not - it is his democratic right to speak out, just as the dead journalists were in taunting these radical Muslims and winding them up. If he is a 'nutter' as you imply, then so were these journalists playing this deadly game, they knew the dangers didn't they. Just as Russian roulette isn't a particularly wise game to play, neither is denigrating the Muslim religion. I see so the journalist deserved what happened to them, expressing their right to free speech. But you would defend this abou Jahjah right to free speech "His democratic right" as you say. But no mention of the journalist democratic rights. Just that they deserved what happened to them. Sounds hypocritical to me! Hang about!! It's the Muslims right to kill anyone who offends them is that what you are defending (the implication of your words) They deserved what they got? You forgot "Allah akbar" at the end of your Posts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 "Let's vow never to give in to terrorism" At the same time "we" fly drones and shoot lots of innocent people, when we try to shoot terrorists. I am sure the children/parents/cousins of the shot people are seeing us as terrorists for doing it. At the same time we support the Saudi regime which kills people who have any other idea about religion and which supports the same terrorists we hunt with the drones. I don't know what to do better, but what we do now is for sure wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 They will be after anonymous next http://tech.thaivisa.com/anonymous-hackers-declare-war-terrorists/2603/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCer Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 The way things are going in Europe now makes me think: "Most Europeans disliked Jews. No, no - not only Germans, please!... - Maybe with 45 M Muslims and rampant Terrorism they will reconsider?" Just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Dislike people can live with. Murder not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post F430murci Posted January 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2015 RE: Provocation BS Unfortunately, provocation has almost zilch to do with this stuff. I say unfortunately because if it did, it would be an easier fix. Most of these terrorist types are simply savages operating from a completely different mentality set of morals that, no matter how we try, cannot be reconciled through a normal human thought process. We try to tell ourselves there is some underlying reason or motivation for the killings instead of accepting the fact that these are just savages running around like banshees doing what they like to do. RE: Nigeria and Boko Haram Nigeria is a great example of this mentality. Both the government's military and Boko Hatam are slaughtering innocent villagers. Boko Haram, apparently for shiittzz and giggles or because they were bored just slaughter hundreds or thousands in Baga. Well, the government's military raised homes and businesses and slaughtered a couple hundred innocent villagers in Baga in mid-2013. US policy or cartoons are NOT provoking the slaughter of innocents in Nigeria that are constantly occurring at the hands of both the military and terrorist groups. They are doing this because they are savages running around like lawless banshees that apparently get some personal satisfaction from killing and terrorizing innocent people. You put these same people in civilized countries and they still act the same way, albeit with an excuse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steely Dan Posted January 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2015 A culture that can't or won't defend itself is in decline, or as Aristotle put it, tolerance and apathy are the last two attributes of a dying civilization. http://www.thecommentator.com/article/5524/a_dying_western_culture_is_the_problem 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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