Fish

[mrbojangles]

First of all, sorry about the quality of the pics (taken from camera phone).

Mrs BoJ has 4 Goldfish, the Fan tail kind, which she loves to bits. She is now getting worried about one of them, as after the fish has finished a hard day's work it floats around at the top of the tank...upside down and sometimes it drops to the bottom, like a rock.

If you go near it, it turns over and seems to swim away happily enough. I think. Is there something wrong with it, if so, can we do anything? Or is it quite common and nothing to bother about.

Many thanks

[BambinA]

You can't do anything methinks ..sorry

the fish has a problem with swim bladder, gas bladder, air bladder.

[Mr Jones]

If it is eating then nothing to worry about,

I it is not eating then RIP

Les

[BambinA]

http://www.goldfishinfo.com/ailment1.htm

Swim Bladder-

Swim or air bladder problems sometimes occur in freshwater fish. I have personally seen this is fancy goldfish such as Orandas, Ryunkins, and Shubunkins. When the bladder is effected, the fish will experience equilibrium problems. Sometimes, the problem is not the bladder but other problems which directly affect the bladder. Diseased and inflamed internal organs, improper water conditions or nutrition, and wounds received from fighting with another fish can also effect the equilibrium of the fish. Constipation is also known to affect a fish's swimming ability!

Symptoms:

The fish has problems swimming correctly. They may appear to be standing on their head, or floating to the surface and struggling to go down to the bottom, or possibly even have problems removing themselves from the bottom. At the later stages of the disease, the fish could lose its balance and swim upside down.

Treatment:

There is no specific treatment for this dilemma;however, you can try isolating the fish to a quarantine tank in which the water is shallow(this provides relief for the fish). Add one teaspoon of salt per gallon of water. Some individuals will feed thawed out frozen peas and this purges the fish's system and has been noted to help many fish. After 1-2 weeks a return to the main tank with deeper water may be tried. The best advice I can give is to maintain proper water conditions, feed your fish a well balanced diet, and possibly try feeding your goldfish sinking foods rather than floating types. They won't inhale so much air this way. The pellets if soaked in water before feeding will expand before the fish eats them and this has helped a lot. Good luck with this!! Check out http://www.koivet.com

[mrbojangles]

Thanks Bambi and Mr Jones. It looks like the poor fella doesn't have long to go then Mrs BoJ will be upset about that. I think she thought it was pregnant

It does seem to be eating ok at the moment, so i'll try the sinking pellets.

Bambi, could you please try to explain in Thai (only briefly), i can then show MrsBoJ this thread and let her read it herself. I can't imagine how i can even begin to try and explain in english, about swim bladders and air bladders etc.

[BambinA]

Bambi, could you please try to explain in Thai (only briefly), i can then show MrsBoJ this thread and let her read it herself. I can't imagine how i can even begin to try and explain in english, about swim bladders and air bladders etc.

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[mrbojangles]

Thankyou bambi, i'll show mrs BoJ

[Nordlys]

I have had many gold fish that developed swim bladder syndrome and like Bambina said, there's nothing you can do to reverse the condition once the fish develops it as far as I can tell from my experiences (I still have one). I have tried the treatment method Bambina quoted but that didn't help, I guess the best treatment is the prevention. And bummer, better the shape of the fish (round), higher the chances it develops swim bladder. Rounder (thus fatter), shorter the body and the tail fin, higher the chances it develops swim bladder syndrome, in my opinion. Some of them lived for years after having developed the problem but most would have shorter life expectancy than healthy fish, and their growth usually stops once it develops swim bladder.

[Totster]

It could be an aussie fish ...!

totster