Mooner Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 If it is not an attempted cover-up by Thai Police , why no reports in Thai newspapers until AFTER the British press published the story ? Money, money, money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailandchilli Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) It is interesting to me that suicide was ruled to the french before an autopsy. One wonders if an autopsy was even done. Then to famous doctors make public news statements to say suicide was not likely. Now this girl embassy, family and police are saying natural causes, but she only passed yesterday. So unlikely an autopsy and toxology reports would be completed. I would have these questions. Who were the nice friends she made? Who were the 2 guys who fought over her? Why was she found naked? Who found her? Why was the person who found her suspicious and go into her room? Unless she was sharing with a friend . if she died from consuming valium and other drugs , then it is not natural causes. It is accidental drug overdose. So already one can find many discrepancies in the stories. Just like, David was not killed by the hoe. The frenchy died under suspicious circumstances. And the Swiss guy who just completed a master dive course did not commit suicide. "It is interesting to me that suicide was ruled to the french before an autopsy. One wonders if an autopsy was even done. Then to famous doctors make public news statements to say suicide was not likely." There was an autopsy, the ruling was suicide. The "famous doctors" was one Criminologist, not a doctor, expressing an opinion. The Criminologist is also an associate Professor meaning he has a phd, meaning he is a Doctor. I assume as thats how I understand it but I may be wrong Edited January 23, 2015 by thailandchilli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyflower Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I was talking to some youngsters recently. They were going to the island and I told them about recent events. Yes they had heard all about it in England. They didn't care and were still going. So what can you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftvader Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I was talking to some youngsters recently. They were going to the island and I told them about recent events. Yes they had heard all about it in England. They didn't care and were still going. So what can you do? Sadly I can report similar from a conversation I had with 2 young ladies on Saturday at Don Muang station. Clutching their phrase book I helped them with the announcements. When I got onto the "Where are you going?" I mentioned everything that was happening. "But the PADI is cheap there...." Nothing much a 40 year old man can say to that without looking like an old fart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevecm Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 "Surat Thani police chief Pol Maj Gen Apichat Boonsriroj confirmed the death but revealed that forensic investigation and autopsy did not suggest that shewas murdered." what autopsy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcdhar Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Both the news and mother's statement are mysterious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 First of all: RIP Christina and condolences to her family. Some things -and I am purely speculating here, of course- seem a bit odd. - Koh Tao...of course! - room in a guesthouse of a well known family - tweet about the bar fight - young, attractive foreign woman But let me ask some questions: - JTJ, Svizzdude etc: shouldn't you decide? Was it natural causes or a drug overdose? It can not be both, so... - I don't know, what antibiotics cost on Koh Tao, but here in Bangkok, THB 3000 for antibiotics...would take you a loooooong way! Unless: you see a doctor and get prescribed medicine...in which case, you might get some advise of NOT using alcohol and antibiotics together. As far as I know, the problem with alcohol and antibiotics is not, that it's very harmful (expect for liver problems) but alcohol makes the AB useless. Also: as a doctor, you should ask for allergies and a 20+ year old person should know about eventual allergies. - even IF you are young and a bit stupid, you know, that pain-killers and alcohol don't mix well! We all have been taken some paracetamol with a hangover (lots of alc still in the blood), some of us may have even used pain- killers with a lot of alcohol and lived very well to tell the tale! You dont take 1 valium and an alco-pop and then you just drop dead! - who actually said, the death was because of "natural courses"? Officer Somchai Watchingporn, after having a quick look at the naked body? Or an actual doctor, examining the corpse? Because for a thorough diagnosis, I bet, it would take an experienced forensic expert and not just some island- quack saying "Yep...that looks quiet natural! Cased closed"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 UPDATE: British political activist dies on Koh Tao BANGKOK: -- The young woman, Ms Christina Annesley, also known in UK a political activist, was found dead on the same island where two British backers were murdered last year, according to the UK-based Mirror Online. The UK online media said reports suggested Ms Annesley died from natural causes. Mirror Online reported a source in Bangkok confirmed the death but said details remained sketchy. Koh Tao police station did not answer the phone call. She reportedly tweeted from the island where two Britons Hannah Witheridge Witheridge and David Miller were murdered last September, according to the Mirror. We can confirm the death of a British national in Thailand on Jan 21, a Foreign and Commonwealth Office spokesperson was quoted as saying by the daily. We are providing consular assistance to the family at this difficult time. Meanwhile Thai newspapers Khaosod said the tourist died at a rented bungalow room on Sairee beach, the same beach where the two British backpackerswere murdered in September last year. Surat Thani police chief Pol Maj Gen Apichat Boonsriroj confirmed the death but revealed that forensic investigation and autopsy did not suggest that shewas murdered. There was no bruises on her body and there was no struggle traces inside the room and no valuable was stolen, he said. Her body was sent to Surat Thai hospital for detailed examination again to find the exact cause of her death, the officer said. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/british-political-activist-dies-koh-tao -- Thai PBS 2015-01-23 Well there has not been an autopsy . And the police as we all know. Know nothing about forensics. And once again everything has been cleared out before a forensic could go there. And if it was crime of anger, nothing would be stolen, since the prime TV suspects are swimming in money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin2852 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Very soon, if you want travel insurance for Koh Tao, you are going to get blacklisted. It must be the unluckiest place on earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooner Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 6 tourists under 40 years old all dead on 1 island in 5 months. Where else in the world does that happen? London, over 100 murders every year? London has over 8 million people living there. Hardly a fare comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The Koh Tao and RTP shill must certainly be earning his keep at present with all of his posts. Death Island is a place to avoid. If you want to avoid death island you should also avoid Phuket, Pattaya or Bangkok. Or maybe just leave Thailand to make sure you avoid death ! Considering I don't live in any of this locations it's irrelevant. You are more than welcome to head to the airport though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Yes more die in Phuket and Pattaya. But, a very large but. It is the per capita death rate relative to total population, population of Thais and population of westerners that is grossly skewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manbing Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 6 tourists under 40 years old all dead on 1 island in 5 months. Where else in the world does that happen? London, over 100 murders every year? London covers an area 75 times larger than koh tao Island. Which means if all 7 of the victims were murdered on the Island within 4 months that would equate in percentages to 525 murders on the Island in 4 months or 1575 murders per year if it were the same size as London. Think I have this right? Does that not send alarm bells ringing that something extraordinary is happening here? I don't disagree with the idea, by now we have 7 dead in 4 months. Chinese whispers. Aren't we discussing 5 over a 12 month period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Rumour is that the victims body was found in an area of a resort which is owned by the same people as the now infamous AC Bar. No idea if it's true but that's what I've heard. Heard? FRom where or who? I might as well say the same thing,that will make two.Start to sound true now!!!!!!!!! Ah, the rumour mongers are posting, soon it will be the truth and not hearsay. Give us a break and stop this bloody speculation. If you post why can't you sustain what you have heard and from whom instead of this bloody BS you go on with. Its a little more than speculation. Its confirmed according to this report: The officer added that the bungalow is owned by Montriwat Toowichian, the same man who managed the bar where Miller and Witheridge were last seen on the night of 14 September, hours before their deaths. http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1421937876 Thanks for having the decency to come back and substantiate your post. Many others can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Search of Space Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I understand from UK newspapers that she had a chest infection & purchased antibiotics over the counter, possibly mixing alcohol. Another young life lost & condolences to the family, same age as my daughter, I wouldn't know what to do if something happened to her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Remember mon down at the beach, first to arrive bright and early in the morning. Who discovered this girl? What time? Why were they going into her room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thespecialist6 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 yet another brit death on death island , cannot see parents settling for a stomach bug as cause of death REALLY it gets more like science fiction ! maybe the islanders thought we better not tie her hands behind her back its too common on this island , have they checked to see if there is rope burns round her neck and wrists ? rest in peace fellow brit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 UPDATE: British political activist dies on Koh Tao BANGKOK: -- The young woman, Ms Christina Annesley, also known in UK a political activist, was found dead on the same island where two British backers were murdered last year, according to the UK-based Mirror Online. The UK online media said reports suggested Ms Annesley died from natural causes. Mirror Online reported a source in Bangkok confirmed the death but said details remained sketchy. Koh Tao police station did not answer the phone call. She reportedly tweeted from the island where two Britons Hannah Witheridge Witheridge and David Miller were murdered last September, according to the Mirror. We can confirm the death of a British national in Thailand on Jan 21, a Foreign and Commonwealth Office spokesperson was quoted as saying by the daily. We are providing consular assistance to the family at this difficult time. Meanwhile Thai newspapers Khaosod said the tourist died at a rented bungalow room on Sairee beach, the same beach where the two British backpackerswere murdered in September last year. Surat Thani police chief Pol Maj Gen Apichat Boonsriroj confirmed the death but revealed that forensic investigation and autopsy did not suggest that shewas murdered. There was no bruises on her body and there was no struggle traces inside the room and no valuable was stolen, he said. Her body was sent to Surat Thai hospital for detailed examination again to find the exact cause of her death, the officer said. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/british-political-activist-dies-koh-tao -- Thai PBS 2015-01-23 Well there has not been an autopsy . And the police as we all know. Know nothing about forensics. And once again everything has been cleared out before a forensic could go there. And if it was crime of anger, nothing would be stolen, since the prime TV suspects are swimming in money. Surat Thani has a reasonably well trained forensics team. I have met them. But their main problem is lack of up to date facilities to do their jobs. They know how to, but once they've walked the, no doubt, police contaminated grid, their tools for analysis are lacking. They know the job, but can't get to western levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Eckerslike Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Just to be clear, this is not the 3rd death but the 5th in around a year. There was a British guy who mysteriously died around Christmas 2013. Lets not forget the french guy last month who 'hung himself' after tying his hands together. This is a small island and the probability of 5 foreigners murdered/ disappeared/died under mysterious circumstances must be fairly astronomical. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to detect a pattern here. Ko Tao Death Toll (since Sep 2014) Witheridge/Miller (GB) Sep Woman (N) 22 Dec (boating accident: struck by propeller, drowned) Nick Pearson (GB) 1 Jan (fell off a 15 m cliff and drowned) Hanspeter Suter (CH) 10 Nov (Snorkelling accident/drowning) Dimitri Povse (F) 13 Jan (suicide with hands tied behind back) Annesley (GB) 21 Jan (pending) Just to clarify. Nick Pearson died Jan 1st 2014. 5 deaths since September 2014. Since the beginning of September it is Seven, when you count the "John Doe" Floater that was found in Nov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussiescott Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 JTJ, your an idiot that thinks he knows what goes on in this place and doesnt OBVIOUSLY!!! We people who live here, give a shit about the way farang and expats alike get treated... You have to be a complete insensitive A hole to not feel some disgust about what is happening to this place, it seems to be escalating even more so than previous years. It may be a conspiracy, but why have the Thais turned on the farang that are their bread and butter?....well it starts at the top by the RTP who dont give a toss about any wrong doing to tourists/expats if a Thai is involved, i have witnessed it many times since living here, both in the village and on an island where i live now. If the Thai Authorities dont care, why should the local grubs. If the people at the top had any brains they would clean up the island, but its obviously through lack of ability or another agenda that stops them from doing what is logical seems the case again....or maybe they want the type farang that go to this place not to come anymore, so they can attract a better class of tourist so they can charge more money! The irony is that no one will go there after this media attention... typical Thai-ness! Poor kid RIP young lady nobody deserves to die so young...... <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Well actually it can be called Death Island, as it is an island, and a lot of people seem to mysteriously die there. But I do agree, whoever is doing the killing, is certainly targetingtourists. So......I guess that means the killer / killers are local people. What are the a lot of mystery deaths? Two brutal murders with suspects whose sperm was found in one victim and whose dna was found at the crime scene? A sick girl who appears to have died of naturally but just plain idioitc to cause it a mystery at this point simply because it just happened and you don't know the circumstances yet ... extremely drunk person drowning ... diving accident ... suicideIt is no mystery why the sun is hot unless you just want to pretend there is one and ignore the science and cast doubt on the credibility of anyone who has actually researched the subject.Has there been a cluster of deaths, yup. Would the majority of them have made the news had their not been the brutal murders that can happen anywhere in the world at any time ... probably not. Certainly appears to be a lot of recent deaths but not seeing much mystery unless you simply choose to want to believe mystery and disregard reality. Might not even be a lot of deaths as Thailand has a lot of vices that can bring on depression from money to love woes, attracts both the old and hard party people and in much of the country you are not babysat by authorities to keep you safe and drunks get on bikes or go swimming and others choose to take their own life just like somebody does each day in Las Vegas, another place of vices attracting many less than stable people. Tragic yes, mystery not.No need to trivialize what happens on Kho Tao, people keep on dying there and police keep on calling it suicide and accidents. And stop comparing Las Vegas with a small island in Thailand with less than 1000 citizens. You either have an inability to comprehend a simple post and believe it states or compares things it doesn't or you're being purposely obtuse but either would explain your removal of facts and logic in your comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 If those tweet reports are correct they again highlight the potential danger of uncontrolled medication in Thailand: tramadol and ultracet are dangerous and particularly so when used in combination to excess with alcohol. There are no warnings with these medications in Thailand and they are handed out as the medication of choice by some phamacists for symptoms of pain. They are controlled substances in the US, Canada, Europe, UK, Australia. The potential for recreational use/abuse is significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 let's see body to arrive on mainland on Sunday death Wednesday Autopsy mon? Cause of death already ascertained?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
advancebooking Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 looks like there might be a serial killer on the island, and this killer seems quiet busy. Maybe it's just for fun at this point, who knows? a fine example of how many farang jump to conclusions... many folk die of natural causes in the LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamalaRider Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Dimitri Povse death occurred on Koh Phangan Oh weely, http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2015/01/05/french-man-hanged-koh-tao-hands-tied-handled-suicide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berybert Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) A lot of the island lovers on here and also this actual web site deplore a certain facebook page. But I hope we can all say a big thank you to DSI NYC. Because without him I'm guessing this story would still be under wraps. Edited January 23, 2015 by berybert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthomas Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 In the first 6 months of 2014, 47 expats died in Phuket....26 of which were suicide, bike crash murders or no cause recorded! I don't think I am going to go to Phuket anymore, seems a dangerous place to be..... And how many foreigners died in Pattaya last year ? Every month we read about dead foreigners in Pattaya, go ahead and speculate why they died.... Boredom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Gone to soon.......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyflower Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I would think that it could very well be a combination of medication and drink. You can get such a lot of drugs 'over the counter' that wouldn't be allowed without a doctor's prescription in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Tramadol is not easy to buy over the counter. It is very much a recreational drug, esp when combined with booze. Having 'buckets of tramadol' suggests recreational use. In this case, I think its as likely an unfortunate accidental overdose ad anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1thru10 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) Every time there's a foreign death, so many of the comments assume to describe Thais as murderous, dishonest people. It's like the 'evil of Thailand' is the automatic verdict in every story. Every suicide is assumed to be murder. Every Thai woman is assumed to be a con-artist. Every taxi driver is out to steal from you. It begs the question why posters who have such a low opinion of Thais, would want to be here. I just doubt that these posters are actually upset about a person's death; so much as they just like blaming Thais for things. Edited January 23, 2015 by John1thru10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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