smokie36 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Come on Daniel...sack him now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharecropper Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) re Moyes, no offence but other than for a gigantic bag of money for himself, why would he want to go to Spurs? They're not much better than Everton, and Levy hasn't exactly made himself look like someone you want to work under. I think its Moyes for Man U in some capacity, in due course anyway. Re Rafa - if he went to Everton I'd think he'd do OK, even though it would be a big step up for him. He proved at Liverpool he was profligate with the cash he was given, but he may be able to do better with our squad and operating under financial constraints which make him try to get more out of his players rather than clutching at falling, failing (and expensive) Stars. If he went to Spurs, I'd just laugh. He'd be terrible for you. As a non-Spurs fan, I am surprised you got rid of 'Arry, but a quick read of some of these posts has explained the background to it better. There was no doubt the dip in form from the England Manager period cost you a Champions League slot. Edited June 14, 2012 by sharecropper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 He proved at Liverpool he was profligate with the cash he was given or, he won a european cup and an fa cup, got to another european cup final and got liverpool to 2nd in the league with the highest ever 2nd placed points total, all on a budget of 16m net per season over 5 years. i don't call that particularly profligate. cups are those shiny things with handles by the way sharecropper, those things that moyes has not won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Why is Vertonghen so keen to come to Spurs ? little outside bet, Frank De Boer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Why is Vertonghen so keen to come to Spurs ? little outside bet, Frank De Boer according to a dutch mate there's no way de boer will leave ajax yet. he's young and has just started a big project there, all his family there etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Why is Vertonghen so keen to come to Spurs ? little outside bet, Frank De Boer according to a dutch mate there's no way de boer will leave ajax yet. he's young and has just started a big project there, all his family there etc. Just my mind working overtime Stevie, i did say outside bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Why is Vertonghen so keen to come to Spurs ? little outside bet, Frank De Boer according to a dutch mate there's no way de boer will leave ajax yet. he's young and has just started a big project there, all his family there etc. Just my mind working overtime Stevie, i did say outside bet aye mate. if you want an outside bet though, i'd have some money on a certain wirral-based spaniard. i have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abrak Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 re Moyes, no offence but other than for a gigantic bag of money for himself, why would he want to go to Spurs? They're not much better than Everton, and Levy hasn't exactly made himself look like someone you want to work under. I think its Moyes for Man U in some capacity, in due course anyway. Re Rafa - if he went to Everton I'd think he'd do OK, even though it would be a big step up for him. He proved at Liverpool he was profligate with the cash he was given, but he may be able to do better with our squad and operating under financial constraints which make him try to get more out of his players rather than clutching at falling, failing (and expensive) Stars. If he went to Spurs, I'd just laugh. He'd be terrible for you. As a non-Spurs fan, I am surprised you got rid of 'Arry, but a quick read of some of these posts has explained the background to it better. There was no doubt the dip in form from the England Manager period cost you a Champions League slot. Sharecropper....always the joker..... If Moyes stays much longer at Everton he will have to turn the lights out when he leaves. Everton, Spurs not much difference apart from 70m quid annual revenues when I last looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Righty ho boys,money where thi mouths are time, prizes to be announced, who's gonna get the job?. Ide go martinez And smokes tho im always pleased to natter follow link http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/561162-englands-official-2012-euro-discussion-thread/page__st__150__gopid__5390409#entry5390409 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharecropper Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Ah, Liverpool fans. Don't you just love 'em. Now they're down fighting with Spurs and Everton for Europa League places instead of having high falutin' notions of grandeur, I like them a lot more than I used to. Stevie - you've sold me on Rafa, but Kenny might also do for us. If we were looking for Liverpool rejects, that is. Abrak - Everton, Spurs not much difference apart from 70m quid annual revenues when I last looked. How does that compare in points won in the Premiership over the last few seasons, when compared to spend on squad? I would also ask you to do the maths for two season for Liverpool and Everton, on the same basis, if you could be so kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I'd like a German legend please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 No no no no no not AVB !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abrak Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 No no no no no not AVB !!!!!! I see that AVB is now favorite for the job - odds on with Sky. Would have thought he might go very well at Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abrak Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Ah, Liverpool fans. Don't you just love 'em. Now they're down fighting with Spurs and Everton for Europa League places instead of having high falutin' notions of grandeur, I like them a lot more than I used to. Stevie - you've sold me on Rafa, but Kenny might also do for us. If we were looking for Liverpool rejects, that is. Abrak - Everton, Spurs not much difference apart from 70m quid annual revenues when I last looked. How does that compare in points won in the Premiership over the last few seasons, when compared to spend on squad? I would also ask you to do the maths for two season for Liverpool and Everton, on the same basis, if you could be so kind. Well that's kind of the point isnt it? No doubt that Moyes has done very well with no money to spend and could probably do considerably better if he got hold of some. Everton are broke and have been since they reached their debt limits at the end of 2010. Matchday attendance is falling faster than any club other than Blackburn and Villa. You have securitized your future matchday revenues (just like Rangers). You only balanced the books in 2011 by selling Bellefield and this year you will have to sell a player to reduce debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 re Moyes, no offence but other than for a gigantic bag of money for himself, why would he want to go to Spurs? They're not much better than Everton, and Levy hasn't exactly made himself look like someone you want to work under. I think its Moyes for Man U in some capacity, in due course anyway. Re Rafa - if he went to Everton I'd think he'd do OK, even though it would be a big step up for him. He proved at Liverpool he was profligate with the cash he was given, but he may be able to do better with our squad and operating under financial constraints which make him try to get more out of his players rather than clutching at falling, failing (and expensive) Stars. If he went to Spurs, I'd just laugh. He'd be terrible for you. As a non-Spurs fan, I am surprised you got rid of 'Arry, but a quick read of some of these posts has explained the background to it better. There was no doubt the dip in form from the England Manager period cost you a Champions League slot. You really don't know a lot do you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacknDanny Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 No no no no no not AVB !!!!!! I see that AVB is now favorite for the job - odds on with Sky. Would have thought he might go very well at Spurs. Huge amount of money for him over the last 24 hours.... 4/1 to 8/11 Apparantly Martinez has not been approached. Looking like AVB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 No no no no no not AVB !!!!!! I see that AVB is now favorite for the job - odds on with Sky. Would have thought he might go very well at Spurs. Huge amount of money for him over the last 24 hours.... 4/1 to 8/11 Apparantly Martinez has not been approached. Looking like AVB. On the balance of things i'd say Benitez would be a better choice. He's far more experience which is going to be important in pulling the team back together and dealing with little sh1ts like Modric. I'm not at all against AVB but for me the problem with him is still the lack of gravitas. He would definately need a DofF Either way i hope Levy makes an appointment asap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Lets hope we can get Allardyce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRed Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Well Allardyce could be see as forward thinking! wink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Why is Vertonghen so keen to come to Spurs ? little outside bet, Frank De Boer according to a dutch mate there's no way de boer will leave ajax yet. he's young and has just started a big project there, all his family there etc. Can someone please explain to me why the new breed of managers no loger manage teams they take on "projects?" Is it their agents idea of negotiating a long contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abrak Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Why is Vertonghen so keen to come to Spurs ? little outside bet, Frank De Boer according to a dutch mate there's no way de boer will leave ajax yet. he's young and has just started a big project there, all his family there etc. Can someone please explain to me why the new breed of managers no loger manage teams they take on "projects?" Is it their agents idea of negotiating a long contract? Well when you hear that Di Matteo has a contract to manage Chelsea for two seasons, you do tend to assume they are autumn and winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Clubs can't keep rewarding failure with these huge severence pay outs. Will soon be entering into an era of one year rolling contracts if a bit of sanity prevails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharecropper Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Ah, Liverpool fans. Don't you just love 'em. Now they're down fighting with Spurs and Everton for Europa League places instead of having high falutin' notions of grandeur, I like them a lot more than I used to. Stevie - you've sold me on Rafa, but Kenny might also do for us. If we were looking for Liverpool rejects, that is. Abrak - Everton, Spurs not much difference apart from 70m quid annual revenues when I last looked. How does that compare in points won in the Premiership over the last few seasons, when compared to spend on squad? I would also ask you to do the maths for two season for Liverpool and Everton, on the same basis, if you could be so kind. Well that's kind of the point isnt it? No doubt that Moyes has done very well with no money to spend and could probably do considerably better if he got hold of some. Everton are broke and have been since they reached their debt limits at the end of 2010. Matchday attendance is falling faster than any club other than Blackburn and Villa. You have securitized your future matchday revenues (just like Rangers). You only balanced the books in 2011 by selling Bellefield and this year you will have to sell a player to reduce debt. It's not pretty, but at least he can sleep soundly at night, knowing nobody's going to stab him in the back the next day. I do wonder how important, psychologically, that is to managers these days when otherwise the offer is much of a muchness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharecropper Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 re Moyes, no offence but other than for a gigantic bag of money for himself, why would he want to go to Spurs? They're not much better than Everton, and Levy hasn't exactly made himself look like someone you want to work under. I think its Moyes for Man U in some capacity, in due course anyway. Re Rafa - if he went to Everton I'd think he'd do OK, even though it would be a big step up for him. He proved at Liverpool he was profligate with the cash he was given, but he may be able to do better with our squad and operating under financial constraints which make him try to get more out of his players rather than clutching at falling, failing (and expensive) Stars. If he went to Spurs, I'd just laugh. He'd be terrible for you. As a non-Spurs fan, I am surprised you got rid of 'Arry, but a quick read of some of these posts has explained the background to it better. There was no doubt the dip in form from the England Manager period cost you a Champions League slot. You really don't know a lot do you! Read much? As a non-Spurs fan, I am surprised you got rid of 'Arry, but a quick read of some of these posts has explained the background to it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 re Moyes, no offence but other than for a gigantic bag of money for himself, why would he want to go to Spurs? They're not much better than Everton, and Levy hasn't exactly made himself look like someone you want to work under. I think its Moyes for Man U in some capacity, in due course anyway. Re Rafa - if he went to Everton I'd think he'd do OK, even though it would be a big step up for him. He proved at Liverpool he was profligate with the cash he was given, but he may be able to do better with our squad and operating under financial constraints which make him try to get more out of his players rather than clutching at falling, failing (and expensive) Stars. If he went to Spurs, I'd just laugh. He'd be terrible for you. As a non-Spurs fan, I am surprised you got rid of 'Arry, but a quick read of some of these posts has explained the background to it better. There was no doubt the dip in form from the England Manager period cost you a Champions League slot. You really don't know a lot do you! Read much? As a non-Spurs fan, I am surprised you got rid of 'Arry, but a quick read of some of these posts has explained the background to it better. I was referring to the "apart from a gigantic big bag of money" line. The reason he would probably want away to Spurs is that he would atlast have a chance of winning something. The reasons scrotum face was sacked are clear if you read Alfie's post. He brought it on himself and interestingly the only ones sticking up for him are his mates in the tabloid press, and lets face it, who cares what a genetic throwback like Martin Samuel has to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Give us Klinsmann...Hammer of the Scots.... Anything to get him back to the Lane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I suspect we are all relieved niw hz's gone....but talk of the wee schoolboy Villas Boas taking over shoyld be didmissed by Levy out of hand immediately. We're not a mickey mouse West London outfit!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Apologies for spelling today...these smart phones aint that clever lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Apologies for spelling today...these smart phones aint that clever lol They ain't called Smart for nothing smokes. I think it's more like not-so-smart operator error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Apologies for spelling today...these smart phones aint that clever lol They ain't called Smart for nothing smokes. I think it's more like not-so-smart operator error The speaking text don't do Scottish.... Sent from my GT-S5830 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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