cumgranosalum Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Largest and most busy port - Laem Chabang .. It is home to Thailand's largest port by the same name, about 25 kilometres north of Pattaya, and south of the city Chon Buri. Starting in 1988 Laem Chabang (Thai: แหลมฉบัง, pronounced [lɛ̌ːm tɕʰābāŋ]) is a city (thesaban nakhon) inChonburi Province, Thailand. It covers the tambon Bang Lamung of Bang Lamung district, and the complete tambon Bueng, Sura Sak, Thung Su Khla and parts of Nong Kham of Si Racha district. As of 2006 it has a population of 61,801. The Thai Naval Port - Sattahip is somewhat close to Rayong. Sattahip was greatly expanded by the U.S. Navy during the Vietnam War. I have worked here - the main problem is that it isn't very DEEP. note the peers running out to unload bulk tankers etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 So what about the EXISTING PORT named Songkhla.. It is a containerport as good as any other port....... Glegolo Has Songkhla moved to the West? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 It's all very well firing out names, but a port must attract customers - it must be a good location for access of goods by Thailand - a meeting between land and sae. It must also have DEEP WATER - this is a failing of most ports in Thailand - the seas around the country are VERY shallow (a bit like the politicians!). any port opened now would have to be of use to ASEAN as much as Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 So what about the EXISTING PORT named Songkhla.. It is a containerport as good as any other port....... Glegolo Get out your map, the OP was speaking of the West coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varangkul Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Largest and most busy port - Laem Chabang .. It is home to Thailand's largest port by the same name, about 25 kilometres north of Pattaya, and south of the city Chon Buri. Starting in 1988 Laem Chabang (Thai: แหลมฉบัง, pronounced [lɛ̌ːm tɕʰābāŋ]) is a city (thesaban nakhon) inChonburi Province, Thailand. It covers the tambon Bang Lamung of Bang Lamung district, and the complete tambon Bueng, Sura Sak, Thung Su Khla and parts of Nong Kham of Si Racha district. As of 2006 it has a population of 61,801. The Thai Naval Port - Sattahip is somewhat close to Rayong. Sattahip was greatly expanded by the U.S. Navy during the Vietnam War. The OP asked about a port on the WEST coast - bordering the Andaman. I suspect that JDG wasn't aware that Thailand extended beyond Bangkok! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givenall Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Can compete with Singapore. The specialize in land transportation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic040 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Aren't they planning to build a canal a la Panama in the South (Trang-Phattalung or Satun-Songkhla)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glegolo Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Songkla is on the east coast of the isthmus, not the west. So what about the EXISTING PORT named Songkhla.. It is a containerport as good as any other port....... Glegolo Yes you are right, eastcoast of the isthmus.... Nice to know that...... Songkhla is further more situated on the western board of gulf of Thailand in contrast to i.e. Rayong that is situated in the eastern board of the gulf of Thailand...... So i guess that the westcoast is outside the isthmus..... but it is still the westcoast of the gulf of Thailand... So... this was free information.... Glegolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryBird Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Songkla is on the east coast of the isthmus, not the west. So what about the EXISTING PORT named Songkhla.. It is a containerport as good as any other port....... Glegolo Yes you are right, eastcoast of the isthmus.... Nice to know that...... Songkhla is further more situated on the western board of gulf of Thailand in contrast to i.e. Rayong that is situated in the eastern board of the gulf of Thailand...... So i guess that the westcoast is outside the isthmus..... but it is still the westcoast of the gulf of Thailand... So... this was free information.... Glegolo I see you've learned the face saving aspect of Thai culture. A true assimilator. You really should be embarrassed for making a smart remark only to have it turn out to be completely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Largest and most busy port - Laem Chabang .. It is home to Thailand's largest port by the same name, about 25 kilometres north of Pattaya, and south of the city Chon Buri. Starting in 1988 Laem Chabang (Thai: แหลมฉบัง, pronounced [lɛ̌ːm tɕʰābāŋ]) is a city (thesaban nakhon) inChonburi Province, Thailand. It covers the tambon Bang Lamung of Bang Lamung district, and the complete tambon Bueng, Sura Sak, Thung Su Khla and parts of Nong Kham of Si Racha district. As of 2006 it has a population of 61,801. The Thai Naval Port - Sattahip is somewhat close to Rayong. Sattahip was greatly expanded by the U.S. Navy during the Vietnam War. The OP asked about a port on the WEST coast - bordering the Andaman. I suspect that JDG wasn't aware that Thailand extended beyond Bangkok! 100km beyond Bangkok ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) Thaksin started this so it faltered for a while but the governments and corporations of the region and south Asia to the EU think this is a winner so it is now on again. It's in Satun province which borders Malaysia near Penang and is a short connecting distance from Songkhla to the east and the Gulf of Thailand. It is also considered by the Thai elites, the military especially, to be a viable alternative to the proposal by the CCP Boyz in Beijing to constructing a canal across the Kra peninsula. Coming soon..... Thai Government Approves Asia Europe Shortcut Thai authorities have given approval in principle for the Pak Bara deep sea port development that which could cut transit times from Asia to Europe. The new port on the Andaman Sea will connect by road and rail to another deep sea port in Songkhla province in the Gulf of Thailand, allowing ships to avoid the longer route via the Strait of Malacca. When established, it will be the first deep sea port of the west southern coast of Thailand. It is expected to provide European and Middle Eastern shipping access to Thailand and beyond to the Far East. Thailand exports around 300,000teu of containerized goods through Singapore and Malaysia annually. The new port will be designed to handle up to 800,000teu annually and to accommodate 70,000dwt vessels. Locally, the Pak Bara Port is expected to be important to the country’s export of rubber and seafood. However, some locals, including fishermen and farmers, have opposed the development fearing pollution. Protest marches have been held over the last couple of years when the project was being evaluated. Construction is expected to start in 2016, and the port is expected to be operational in 2020. It will cost around Bt15 billion ($460m). http://www.maritime-executive.com/article/Thai-Government-Approves-Asia-Europe-Shortcut-2014-09-08 Exports from Satun to be improved with Pak Bara Port Project supportSaturday, 16 August 2014 BANGKOK, Aug 15 -- Thailand's southern Andaman Sea province of Satun is in line for improved export connection with the confirmation today that the Office of Transport and Traffic Policy and Planning (OTP) supports the development of the Pak Bara port in Satun province. OTP Director Peerapol Thavornsubhajaroen said the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) gave a nod to the Pak Bara Port Project and it is already included in the Ministry of Transport's infrastructure development scheme for the next 4-8 years. He said the Marine Department planned to start the port construction in 2016 and open it in 2020 and the port would significantly boost water transport capacity in southern Thailand and cut logistics costs - See more at: http://www.pattayamail.com/business/exports-from-satun-to-be-improved-with-pak-bara-port-project-support-40452#sthash.LFwe61m6.dpuf Edited February 13, 2015 by Publicus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Phuket has a port: http://cntr.ctic.co.th/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user4674534 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Ranong (mid south west coast Thailand) has a Port actively supporting the local gas/oil fields. One cannot understand why the Thai Government wants to invest in Dawei (Burma) when they have a Port in place in Thailand that only needs an upgrade and the channel deepened in some spots and it will suffice. The highways from Bangkok are dual carriageway to Chumpon and they are slowly making duel carriegeway from Chumpon to Ranong. Better to invest money in Thailand and keep jobs for Thais (or Burmese slave labor) I would have thought. Extract from the Ranong Port Website below: On March 25, 2003, the Cabinet approved of the Port Authority of Thailand to manage and operate Ranong Port. It is aimed to be the main port for marine cargo transport in the Andaman coast, linking trade routes with countries in South Asia, Middle East, Europe and Africa. The first-phase Ranong Port which accommodate 2 cargo ships of less than 500 gross tons that will not well suit the growing international trade in west-bound routes. Thus, the Marine Department constructed the second-phase Ranong Port to accommodate a larger cargo vessel of 12,000 deadweight tons. State agencies responsible for the development of basic infrastructures and public utilities, as well as international trade in both central and provincial areas have jointly developed the second-phase port to ensure maximum capability of this new gateway. The port development is the key strategy to enable Ranong Province to be marine cargo transport hub in the Andaman sea. As a result, it should be deemed that Ranong Port has been constructed with a pool of cooperation from all sectors. The second-phase port was officially opened for services on July 2006. http://www.rnp.port.co.th/eng/dataset1/data1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 All this talk of large ports irks me, for several reasons. For starters, it's a continuation of the war on nature by our species. Nature is losing every battle. When was the last time a manatee (slow-moving aquatic mammal) was sighted along any part of Thailand's coasts? I think it was about 4 years ago, and Thai villagers charged out to gouge out its eyes, because manatee eyes have some voodoo value for primitive-thinking people. Secondly, any time there's been any large-scale municipal project in Thailand, there's always been corruption. I heard of one large project where, after the final month of construction, none of the hundreds of Burmese workers got paid for that final month. What could the migrant workers do? Nothing - they've got no rights. And thirdly (relates to #1), where is there a port, particularly in Asia, where there is not oil floating on the water, and trash all around, and a dearth of life in the surrounding waters? Would you let your kids eat a fish which was caught within 3 miles of a large port? Incidentally, there are manatee parks around Florida and Belize (among other sites) where tourists flock to view the great beasts. Could such husbandry happen in Thailand? Well, they'd need to start by importing manatees, and beyond that ....doubtful, because locals would probably sneak in to the park at night - to gouge-out the animals' eyes. I have worked here - the main problem is that it isn't very DEEP. note the peers running out to unload bulk tankers etc.... Our peers running out on the piers to unload.... Phuket has a port:http://cntr.ctic.co.th/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=69 Yea, her name is Nok, and I hear she now does house calls. All sorts of containers can enter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Phuket has a port: http://cntr.ctic.co.th/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=69 Satun province on the Andaman Sea is a great deal closer to the Gulf of Thailand than Phuket is and the infrastructure in Satun of roads, rail, Pakbara Port and the like have been underway since 2004. Satun easily connects to Songkhla which provides the existing convenient and less costly link of the Gulf to the Sea. I don't think Phuket wants to develop more in to a commercial port with tankers, container ships, new docks and warehouses and the like, not to mention the seagoing clientele it would be introduced to. Development of Pak Bara Port has been underway since 2004 and it provides an answer to the CCP Boyz in Beijing who want to plow a canal through Thailand to sever it and the entire isthmus. The Boyz from Beijing wouldn't think twice about plowing through Phuket either. Pak Bara Port in Satun province is the new port. Be happy in your work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Phuket has a port: http://cntr.ctic.co.th/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=69 Satun province on the Andaman Sea is a great deal closer to the Gulf of Thailand than Phuket is and the infrastructure in Satun of roads, rail, Pakbara Port and the like have been underway since 2004. Satun easily connects to Songkhla which provides the existing convenient and less costly link of the Gulf to the Sea. I don't think Phuket wants to develop more in to a commercial port with tankers, container ships, new docks and warehouses and the like, not to mention the seagoing clientele it would be introduced to. Development of Pak Bara Port has been underway since 2004 and it provides an answer to the CCP Boyz in Beijing who want to plow a canal through Thailand to sever it and the entire isthmus. The Boyz from Beijing wouldn't think twice about plowing through Phuket either. Pak Bara Port in Satun province is the new port. Be happy in your work. the first idea for a canal was in 1677. The location of any port needs to be seen in terms of customers - and for that it needs to be central and easily accessible by customers - that would be ASEAN and China for export. You also need to take into account the depth of water available - dredging is not usually an option as it becomes like painting the Forth Bridge. So you need natural deep water access to allow a wide range of shipping. ...and finally not that it would bother Thailand very much one needs to look at the environmental impact - the extinction of dugongs being one aspect. In the end Duwei in Myanmar will win the day as it is better located for Bangkok.....and China..... Edited February 15, 2015 by cumgranosalum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Phuket has a port: http://cntr.ctic.co.th/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=69 Satun province on the Andaman Sea is a great deal closer to the Gulf of Thailand than Phuket is and the infrastructure in Satun of roads, rail, Pakbara Port and the like have been underway since 2004. Satun easily connects to Songkhla which provides the existing convenient and less costly link of the Gulf to the Sea. I don't think Phuket wants to develop more in to a commercial port with tankers, container ships, new docks and warehouses and the like, not to mention the seagoing clientele it would be introduced to. Development of Pak Bara Port has been underway since 2004 and it provides an answer to the CCP Boyz in Beijing who want to plow a canal through Thailand to sever it and the entire isthmus. The Boyz from Beijing wouldn't think twice about plowing through Phuket either. Pak Bara Port in Satun province is the new port. Be happy in your work. the first idea for a canal was in 1677. The location of any port needs to be seen in terms of customers - and for that it needs to be central and easily accessible by customers - that would be ASEAN and China for export. You also need to take into account the depth of water available - dredging is not usually an option as it becomes like painting the Forth Bridge. So you need natural deep water access to allow a wide range of shipping. ...and finally not that it would bother Thailand very much one needs to look at the environmental impact - the extinction of dugongs being one aspect. In the end Duwei in Myanmar will win the day as it is better located for Bangkok.....and China..... All of which is true to include the superiority of Duwei in Myanmar as the west coast port of the Indo-China Peninsula which connects directly to the mainland PRChina. Development of the Duwei Port was however taken over by the US and Japan after Prez Obama's first visit to the reformed rulers of Myanmar, reformed because the generals had stopped some major Beijing ordered infrastructure dam and watershed projects that had threatened to submerge most of northern Myanmar while entirely paving over most of the rest of it. Thailand lost its significant involvement in the Duwei Port Project after failing miserably at financing and starting the construction of it. Construction of new roads and rail links between Thailand and Duwei got bogged down in swamps, mosquitoes, a coup. The plan of the CCP Boyz in Beijing to slash and plow a canal severing Thailand, the isthmus, the entire peninsula are not acceptable in Bangkok no matter what and we're talking about Thailand here. Malaysia and Singapore are concerned about a Beijing canal setting them adrift from the mainland of Asia. The Strait of Malacca is already admitting four ships a minute with that unsustainable rate continue to increase indefinitely. The demand exists for both Duwei and a Pakbara Port in the southwest of Thailand in Satun province and that is for sure. Commercially, a canal is an excellent idea which is why it's been kicking around for several hundred years. Politically, socially, culturally however, it's the worst idea in these parts since opium. Moreover the brass hats and their allies among the Bangkok and southern elites want their own port right here in Thailand. India is completing a huge complex of naval and air bases in the Andaman Islands smack between Pakbara and Duwei which confirms the comprehensive importance of the Bay of Bengal-Malacca area and region to everyone of it. Duwei and Pakbara along with the new Indian military facilities in the Andamans keep Thailand in control of major coastal ports and shipping in and through Thailand along with the US, Japan, India and Singapore controlled shipping on and along the peninsula to include Duwei and Malacca. I'm afraid the Boyz in Beijing have been put on the outside looking in for this one. Overall good show by the US and its allies of the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Phuket has a port: http://cntr.ctic.co.th/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=69 Satun province on the Andaman Sea is a great deal closer to the Gulf of Thailand than Phuket is and the infrastructure in Satun of roads, rail, Pakbara Port and the like have been underway since 2004. Satun easily connects to Songkhla which provides the existing convenient and less costly link of the Gulf to the Sea. I don't think Phuket wants to develop more in to a commercial port with tankers, container ships, new docks and warehouses and the like, not to mention the seagoing clientele it would be introduced to. Development of Pak Bara Port has been underway since 2004 and it provides an answer to the CCP Boyz in Beijing who want to plow a canal through Thailand to sever it and the entire isthmus. The Boyz from Beijing wouldn't think twice about plowing through Phuket either. Pak Bara Port in Satun province is the new port. Be happy in your work. the first idea for a canal was in 1677. The location of any port needs to be seen in terms of customers - and for that it needs to be central and easily accessible by customers - that would be ASEAN and China for export. You also need to take into account the depth of water available - dredging is not usually an option as it becomes like painting the Forth Bridge. So you need natural deep water access to allow a wide range of shipping. ...and finally not that it would bother Thailand very much one needs to look at the environmental impact - the extinction of dugongs being one aspect. In the end Duwei in Myanmar will win the day as it is better located for Bangkok.....and China..... All of which is true to include the superiority of Duwei in Myanmar as the west coast port of the Indo-China Peninsula which connects directly to the mainland PRChina. Development of the Duwei Port was however taken over by the US and Japan after Prez Obama's first visit to the reformed rulers of Myanmar, reformed because the generals had stopped some major Beijing ordered infrastructure dam and watershed projects that had threatened to submerge most of northern Myanmar while entirely paving over most of the rest of it. Thailand lost its significant involvement in the Duwei Port Project after failing miserably at financing and starting the construction of it. Construction of new roads and rail links between Thailand and Duwei got bogged down in swamps, mosquitoes, a coup. The plan of the CCP Boyz in Beijing to slash and plow a canal severing Thailand, the isthmus, the entire peninsula are not acceptable in Bangkok no matter what and we're talking about Thailand here. Malaysia and Singapore are concerned about a Beijing canal setting them adrift from the mainland of Asia. The Strait of Malacca is already admitting four ships a minute with that unsustainable rate continue to increase indefinitely. The demand exists for both Duwei and a Pakbara Port in the southwest of Thailand in Satun province and that is for sure. Commercially, a canal is an excellent idea which is why it's been kicking around for several hundred years. Politically, socially, culturally however, it's the worst idea in these parts since opium. Moreover the brass hats and their allies among the Bangkok and southern elites want their own port right here in Thailand. India is completing a huge complex of naval and air bases in the Andaman Islands smack between Pakbara and Duwei which confirms the comprehensive importance of the Bay of Bengal-Malacca area and region to everyone of it. Duwei and Pakbara along with the new Indian military facilities in the Andamans keep Thailand in control of major coastal ports and shipping in and through Thailand along with the US, Japan, India and Singapore controlled shipping on and along the peninsula to include Duwei and Malacca. I'm afraid the Boyz in Beijing have been put on the outside looking in for this one. Overall good show by the US and its allies of the region. Regardless of who finances the Duwei project, Thailand will in the end benefit, there's no need to send goods south across the Gulf - they can send them to BKK or Leam Chabang and on to Duwei Edited February 15, 2015 by cumgranosalum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 A central aspect of the port projects on the west coast of the SE Asia peninsula is sea-land trade and exchanges between and among East Asia, India, and the ME & Europe via SE Asia. The volume of trade presently is more than enough to justify Duwei, Pakbara, Singapore and the Strait of Malacca. The projections to 2020 and beyond require all of 'em. Thailand will benefit from Duwei to the extent the US and Japan allow it to benefit because they are constructing all of it and will be running the port, and the US has arrangements with the government of Myanmar to veto any foreign investors and foreign investments, to include users of the port. This will help in the effort to keep the CCP Boyz in Beijing on their best behavior. In short, Beijing is screwed because it doesn't get to build its wished for canal across the Kra, is stalled and fading in Myanmar, blocked by in the Bay of Bengal by India, subject to Singapore which is yet another US ally in the strait of Malacca. The South China Sea has thus become even more important to the Boyz in Beijing yet they've had to back off in their belligerency there too. Beijing is still wondering what happened, now it all went wrong and so suddenly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The Chinese were stunned when the Burmese iced their plan for a big dam in northern Burma. I stood and applauded. If China were allowed to do all the infrastructure it wants in SE Asia, the region's countries will have to eventually (individually) put "The Autonomous Region Formerly Known As ....." In front of their countries' names. As for environmental concerns by Chinese engineers: expect some words in that regard, but minimal action. The newly approved Chinese-built/financed rail line in Thailand falls in the same category. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised if the self-appointed Chinese-loving Thai PM all of a sudden announces that the Chinese have been given the contract to build a canal across Thailand's isthmus. That's his 'father-knows best' style, ...to just announce something (with no public input or exploratory committee findings). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallyrd Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 So what about the EXISTING PORT named Songkhla.. It is a containerport as good as any other port....... Glegolo Yes, but Songkhla is on the East Coast. There is a deep sea port in Phuket (East side), where do think all the US naval vessels tie up for R&R? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joy16 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) Phuket has a port: http://cntr.ctic.co.th/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=69 Satun province on the Andaman Sea is a great deal closer to the Gulf of Thailand than Phuket is and the infrastructure in Satun of roads, rail, Pakbara Port and the like have been underway since 2004. Satun easily connects to Songkhla which provides the existing convenient and less costly link of the Gulf to the Sea. I don't think Phuket wants to develop more in to a commercial port with tankers, container ships, new docks and warehouses and the like, not to mention the seagoing clientele it would be introduced to. Development of Pak Bara Port has been underway since 2004 and it provides an answer to the CCP Boyz in Beijing who want to plow a canal through Thailand to sever it and the entire isthmus. The Boyz from Beijing wouldn't think twice about plowing through Phuket either. Pak Bara Port in Satun province is the new port. Be happy in your work. the first idea for a canal was in 1677. The location of any port needs to be seen in terms of customers - and for that it needs to be central and easily accessible by customers - that would be ASEAN and China for export. You also need to take into account the depth of water available - dredging is not usually an option as it becomes like painting the Forth Bridge. So you need natural deep water access to allow a wide range of shipping. ...and finally not that it would bother Thailand very much one needs to look at the environmental impact - the extinction of dugongs being one aspect. In the end Duwei in Myanmar will win the day as it is better located for Bangkok.....and China..... All of which is true to include the superiority of Duwei in Myanmar as the west coast port of the Indo-China Peninsula which connects directly to the mainland PRChina. Development of the Duwei Port was however taken over by the US and Japan after Prez Obama's first visit to the reformed rulers of Myanmar, reformed because the generals had stopped some major Beijing ordered infrastructure dam and watershed projects that had threatened to submerge most of northern Myanmar while entirely paving over most of the rest of it. Thailand lost its significant involvement in the Duwei Port Project after failing miserably at financing and starting the construction of it. Construction of new roads and rail links between Thailand and Duwei got bogged down in swamps, mosquitoes, a coup. The plan of the CCP Boyz in Beijing to slash and plow a canal severing Thailand, the isthmus, the entire peninsula are not acceptable in Bangkok no matter what and we're talking about Thailand here. Malaysia and Singapore are concerned about a Beijing canal setting them adrift from the mainland of Asia. The Strait of Malacca is already admitting four ships a minute with that unsustainable rate continue to increase indefinitely. The demand exists for both Duwei and a Pakbara Port in the southwest of Thailand in Satun province and that is for sure. Commercially, a canal is an excellent idea which is why it's been kicking around for several hundred years. Politically, socially, culturally however, it's the worst idea in these parts since opium. Moreover the brass hats and their allies among the Bangkok and southern elites want their own port right here in Thailand. India is completing a huge complex of naval and air bases in the Andaman Islands smack between Pakbara and Duwei which confirms the comprehensive importance of the Bay of Bengal-Malacca area and region to everyone of it. Duwei and Pakbara along with the new Indian military facilities in the Andamans keep Thailand in control of major coastal ports and shipping in and through Thailand along with the US, Japan, India and Singapore controlled shipping on and along the peninsula to include Duwei and Malacca. I'm afraid the Boyz in Beijing have been put on the outside looking in for this one. Overall good show by the US and its allies of the region. Don't know why you drag USA to involve in this project because latest news I know is that this project will be funded by Thailand, Japan and Myanmar. http://www.portfinanceinternational.com/categories/finance-deals/item/1753-japan-and-thailand-reiterate-support-for-$50bn-dawei-deepwater-port-project Edited February 16, 2015 by joy16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Dawei will be accessed by the Chinese by road, through Laos. And eventually by rail. It really doesn't matter who funds the construction so much has who pays for using it when it is built. Of course WHEN it is built will be in th hands of those funding it, but once up and running it won't be short of customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 "Commercially, a canal is an excellent idea which is why it's been kicking around for several hundred years." - I'd say the opposite - if it was a commercial certainty, it would have already been built. It would however be a prestige project and possibly a shot in the arm for ASEAN as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryBird Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 This topic discussed in famous NY paper, not the Times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) In regards to the development of Ranong as a shipping port, what of the infrastructure to support it? There has been a lot of work on that road connecting it to Chumphon in the past ten years, but still there are some very steep grades and switchbacks that probably can't be remedied and not well suited to handle container trucks. Or is the plan for the trucks to drive south via Phang Nga then up north again via Surat Thani? Not unusual to see flatbed trucks hauling fishing trawlers on the Ranong-Chumphon road between the coasts. The going for them is slow, everyone else is impatient. A steady stream of container trucks, combined with the way people drive like maniacs, is a guarantee for fatalities. Not many towns on that route, so when the driver runs away he won't have anywhere to go. Edited July 16, 2015 by bendejo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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