Leaving Thailand for good

[ScarpoFongness4U]

a big part of the problem for me was the way that Thailand was promoted by my friend who moved there 15 years ago

he would post these beautiful pictures of exotic Asia and pictures of the landscape and temples and pretty girls and when I got there he lives in an absolute s*** hole in Bangkok there is no grass barely any trees the place smells roosters crowing at 3 o'clock in the morning and not stopping ever

there is no mention of any traffic no mention of the ridiculous heat no mention of the horrible pollution no mention of the inability to turn on the faucet to see clean water

yeah the Sopie houses were great yeah the bars in Pat pong a great yeah and massages are cheap ya some food is cheap

and yeah the taxis are cheap but what he also forgot to say is that we aren't that welcome here by the government and that has a way of filtering down to some of the people here but not all

as much as people want to complain about the police in the United States and I am one of them because a lot of times they arrest people for truly petty nonsense

but the reality is here you can get a lawyer and you can get yourself out of it and in Thailand you may lose your life and for many people that's a big deal

[MrWorldwide]

a big part of the problem for me was the way that Thailand was promoted by my friend who moved there 15 years ago

he would post these beautiful pictures of exotic Asia and pictures of the landscape and temples and pretty girls and when I got there he lives in an absolute s*** hole in Bangkok there is no grass barely any trees the place smells roosters crowing at 3 o'clock in the morning and not stopping ever

there is no mention of any traffic no mention of the ridiculous heat no mention of the horrible pollution no mention of the inability to turn on the faucet to see clean water

yeah the Sopie houses were great yeah the bars in Pat pong a great yeah and massages are cheap ya some food is cheap

and yeah the taxis are cheap but what he also forgot to say is that we aren't that welcome here by the government and that has a way of filtering down to some of the people here but not all

as much as people want to complain about the police in the United States and I am one of them because a lot of times they arrest people for truly petty nonsense

but the reality is here you can get a lawyer and you can get yourself out of it and in Thailand you may lose your life and for many people that's a big deal

Losing your life is a big deal ? Really ?

As to the rest of your post, would you have believed your 'friend' if he'd told you the same unbelievable stories about Mexico ? There's a point where we believe what we want to believe - you should have just jumped in the first cab you could find, gone back to the airport and filed it under 'misadventure', yet somehow here we are 15 years later still obsessing over it. How long - cumulatively - have you actually spent in Thailand since 2000 ?

[ScarpoFongness4U]

Its my friend who is there 15 years, not me.

I have been in Thai a collective 7 months

The first time in 2013 from Sept to March 2014, leaving just after a grenade destroyed the ATM I used, and I was sure the unrest would get bloodier, And then again this past xmas thru Jan.

Each time, I enjoyed myself and those around me, immensely

Both times though, I was just as glad to be back in the States.

I miss the girls and my music friends and the Japanese BBQ which expanded my waist by 3/ inches and 12 pounds until I returned to normalcy

[bandito]

I'm living here for 40 years now and won't consider to go back to Europe, ever! I like it here. especially the freedom to live my life the way I want to.

[simon43]

I have lived here for 14 years. Were I to relocate to another country (unlikely), it would not be my home country (UK), because that country has changed beyond recognition.

The UK no longer feels like 'home' to me, which is a pity. Thailand is my 'home', warts and all

[MrWorldwide]

I have lived here for 14 years. Were I to relocate to another country (unlikely), it would not be my home country (UK), because that country has changed beyond recognition.

The UK no longer feels like 'home' to me, which is a pity. Thailand is my 'home', warts and all

And I know that's been the case for several Australians I've spoken to, one who has been here since the end of the VN war. Worse still, he grew up in Sydney - there's just no going back to the Sydney of the 1960s and 70s - I arrived in Sydney in '69 and left in '85 so I've lived in a bit of a time warp myself. I expect that goes double for many cities in the UK.

[fey]

I'm living here for 40 years now and won't consider to go back to Europe, ever! I like it here. especially the freedom to live my life the way I want to.

sexpat, with a twist.

[samuibeachcomber]

Surely,home is where your heart is?

[Tchooptip]

Lasted seven years, came back last fall.

Cost of living is cheaper here, better quality of life, and:

People smile without hoping for anything other than a smile back;

Haven't heard a single dog bark in three months, let alone been attacked by a pack of them;

No burning of plastic;

No loud music, caterwauling as the moon sets, or unbridled exhaust;

Haven't seen one person pick their nose. Nope, not even the person preparing my food ...

Were there good things about my time in Thailand? Sure, but no where near enough to consider living there any longer, let alone dying there.

My wife is joining me in April. We have a bucket list in the first month that includes:

The Grand Canyon- camping and rafting;

Las Vegas- attending a Cirque de Sol show, and, in the casinos, losing money;

Driving north from San Diego through Malibu, sailing to and about Catalina, then taking Hwy 1 up the coast into Washington State and eventually Victoria, B.C. We'll stop at wineries and cheese farms along the way, detouring for camping in Sequoia National Park, and Redwood National Forest. Then Yosemite and back over to the coast ….

Absolutely no way I would consider wasting another precious day of life in LOS.

Absolutely no way I would consider wasting another precious day of life in LOS.

But no problem wasting every single of your precious days on ThaiVisa

[HeijoshinCool]

Lasted seven years, came back last fall.

Cost of living is cheaper here, better quality of life, and:

People smile without hoping for anything other than a smile back;

Haven't heard a single dog bark in three months, let alone been attacked by a pack of them;

No burning of plastic;

No loud music, caterwauling as the moon sets, or unbridled exhaust;

Haven't seen one person pick their nose. Nope, not even the person preparing my food ...

Were there good things about my time in Thailand? Sure, but no where near enough to consider living there any longer, let alone dying there.

My wife is joining me in April. We have a bucket list in the first month that includes:

The Grand Canyon- camping and rafting;

Las Vegas- attending a Cirque de Sol show, and, in the casinos, losing money;

Driving north from San Diego through Malibu, sailing to and about Catalina, then taking Hwy 1 up the coast into Washington State and eventually Victoria, B.C. We'll stop at wineries and cheese farms along the way, detouring for camping in Sequoia National Park, and Redwood National Forest. Then Yosemite and back over to the coast ….

Absolutely no way I would consider wasting another precious day of life in LOS.

Absolutely no way I would consider wasting another precious day of life in LOS.

But no problem wasting every single of your precious days on ThaiVisa

Yep, big waste of my day.

Woke up Saturday morning at 5:30 and drove up to Park CIty for some snowboarding in a refreshing 38 degrees. Then into Park City's quaint downtown to Squatters Brewpub for a fresh-made IPA, to wash down an Ahi Burger slathered with Pico de Gallo, avocado, and wasabi aioli, under a pile of sweet potato fries.

Then on the way back down the mountain into the city, we stopped at the Tracy Aviary (the oldest and largest in the States) for a few hours, followed by watching the finish line of the SLC Marathon from my buddy's condo, before finishing up the day with a few sets of tennis, under sunny skies and 68 degree weather.

So, what did you do?

[wow64]

Lasted seven years, came back last fall.

Cost of living is cheaper here, better quality of life, and:

People smile without hoping for anything other than a smile back;

Haven't heard a single dog bark in three months, let alone been attacked by a pack of them;

No burning of plastic;

No loud music, caterwauling as the moon sets, or unbridled exhaust;

Haven't seen one person pick their nose. Nope, not even the person preparing my food ...

Were there good things about my time in Thailand? Sure, but no where near enough to consider living there any longer, let alone dying there.

My wife is joining me in April. We have a bucket list in the first month that includes:

The Grand Canyon- camping and rafting;

Las Vegas- attending a Cirque de Sol show, and, in the casinos, losing money;

Driving north from San Diego through Malibu, sailing to and about Catalina, then taking Hwy 1 up the coast into Washington State and eventually Victoria, B.C. We'll stop at wineries and cheese farms along the way, detouring for camping in Sequoia National Park, and Redwood National Forest. Then Yosemite and back over to the coast ….

Absolutely no way I would consider wasting another precious day of life in LOS.

Absolutely no way I would consider wasting another precious day of life in LOS.

But no problem wasting every single of your precious days on ThaiVisa

Yep, big waste of my day.

Woke up Saturday morning at 5:30 and drove up to Park CIty for some snowboarding in a refreshing 38 degrees. Then into Park City's quaint downtown to Squatters Brewpub for a fresh-made IPA, to wash down an Ahi Burger slathered with Pico de Gallo, avocado, and wasabi aioli, under a pile of sweet potato fries.

Then on the way back down the mountain into the city, we stopped at the Tracy Aviary (the oldest and largest in the States) for a few hours, followed by watching the finish line of the SLC Marathon from my buddy's condo, before finishing up the day with a few sets of tennis, under sunny skies and 68 degree weather.

So, what did you do?

Have a question and I am not being a smart ass... Why do you still go on thaivisa if you left thailand and dont want to spend another day here/there?

Other countries I have lived in I dont still go to their expat forums... Whats the attraction here?

Sent from my c64

[HeijoshinCool]

Lasted seven years, came back last fall.

Cost of living is cheaper here, better quality of life, and:

People smile without hoping for anything other than a smile back;

Haven't heard a single dog bark in three months, let alone been attacked by a pack of them;

No burning of plastic;

No loud music, caterwauling as the moon sets, or unbridled exhaust;

Haven't seen one person pick their nose. Nope, not even the person preparing my food ...

Were there good things about my time in Thailand? Sure, but no where near enough to consider living there any longer, let alone dying there.

My wife is joining me in April. We have a bucket list in the first month that includes:

The Grand Canyon- camping and rafting;

Las Vegas- attending a Cirque de Sol show, and, in the casinos, losing money;

Driving north from San Diego through Malibu, sailing to and about Catalina, then taking Hwy 1 up the coast into Washington State and eventually Victoria, B.C. We'll stop at wineries and cheese farms along the way, detouring for camping in Sequoia National Park, and Redwood National Forest. Then Yosemite and back over to the coast ….

Absolutely no way I would consider wasting another precious day of life in LOS.

Absolutely no way I would consider wasting another precious day of life in LOS.

But no problem wasting every single of your precious days on ThaiVisa

Yep, big waste of my day.

Woke up Saturday morning at 5:30 and drove up to Park CIty for some snowboarding in a refreshing 38 degrees. Then into Park City's quaint downtown to Squatters Brewpub for a fresh-made IPA, to wash down an Ahi Burger slathered with Pico de Gallo, avocado, and wasabi aioli, under a pile of sweet potato fries.

Then on the way back down the mountain into the city, we stopped at the Tracy Aviary (the oldest and largest in the States) for a few hours, followed by watching the finish line of the SLC Marathon from my buddy's condo, before finishing up the day with a few sets of tennis, under sunny skies and 68 degree weather.

So, what did you do?

Have a question and I am not being a smart ass... Why do you still go on thaivisa if you left thailand and dont want to spend another day here/there?

Other countries I have lived in I dont still go to their expat forums... Whats the attraction here?

Sent from my c64

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Thanks for asking in a civil manner. Here's a link to one of the many times I've answered that question.

#9295684

Here's an interesting fact: many of the posters on TV don't live in Thailand, including some of the, uhm, well, can't discuss them.

[SoiBiker]

Lasted seven years, came back last fall.

Cost of living is cheaper here, better quality of life, and:

People smile without hoping for anything other than a smile back;

Haven't heard a single dog bark in three months, let alone been attacked by a pack of them;

No burning of plastic;

No loud music, caterwauling as the moon sets, or unbridled exhaust;

Haven't seen one person pick their nose. Nope, not even the person preparing my food ...

Were there good things about my time in Thailand? Sure, but no where near enough to consider living there any longer, let alone dying there.

My wife is joining me in April. We have a bucket list in the first month that includes:

The Grand Canyon- camping and rafting;

Las Vegas- attending a Cirque de Sol show, and, in the casinos, losing money;

Driving north from San Diego through Malibu, sailing to and about Catalina, then taking Hwy 1 up the coast into Washington State and eventually Victoria, B.C. We'll stop at wineries and cheese farms along the way, detouring for camping in Sequoia National Park, and Redwood National Forest. Then Yosemite and back over to the coast .

Absolutely no way I would consider wasting another precious day of life in LOS.

Absolutely no way I would consider wasting another precious day of life in LOS.

But no problem wasting every single of your precious days on ThaiVisa

Yep, big waste of my day.

Woke up Saturday morning at 5:30 and drove up to Park CIty for some snowboarding in a refreshing 38 degrees. Then into Park City's quaint downtown to Squatters Brewpub for a fresh-made IPA, to wash down an Ahi Burger slathered with Pico de Gallo, avocado, and wasabi aioli, under a pile of sweet potato fries.

Then on the way back down the mountain into the city, we stopped at the Tracy Aviary (the oldest and largest in the States) for a few hours, followed by watching the finish line of the SLC Marathon from my buddy's condo, before finishing up the day with a few sets of tennis, under sunny skies and 68 degree weather.

So, what did you do?

I already posted about how I spent a day in Bangkok on an American forum. Because that's a normal thing to do.

[berybert]

I wonder how many people who came to Thailand spend all day in air conditioned malls and all night in air conditioned bars.

And the reason they left their home country was because the weather was to cold.

Edited April 19, 2015 by berybert

[MrWorldwide]

Agsin, why does this have to be an ongoing pissing contest ? You either see yourself here till the end or you don't - it was a very simple question that did not ask 'How fantastic would it be to swap Thailand's climate, food and lifestyle for your home country ?' ....

Right now, there are at least 100,000 completely insane Thais on the street below me with #%@# speakers blasting the most insane jungle samba I've ever heard - hour after mind-numbing hour - and they'll go right through tonight into tomorrow morning. Would I swap with most of the Americans, Brits or Australians sitting in a cool, quiet room reading Thaivisa with their favorite beverage beside them ? Probably not, because I came to Asia for a reason and it wasnt to live the next 20 years of my life in the same mundane fashion as the first 55. If I had the money, I'd live in Japan eight months of the year and SEA during the northern Winter, but that's not what the OP asked : he asked if I saw myself living here till the end and I've answered that. Whether I planned to stay right here, move to Chile and run guns into Central America or go back to Oz till I qualify for the Aged Pension, why would I need to justify any of those choices to anyone here ? Pure pissing contest in classic Thaivisa fashion.

Adios, Amigos.

[HeijoshinCool]

Lasted seven years, came back last fall.

Cost of living is cheaper here, better quality of life, and:

People smile without hoping for anything other than a smile back;

Haven't heard a single dog bark in three months, let alone been attacked by a pack of them;

No burning of plastic;

No loud music, caterwauling as the moon sets, or unbridled exhaust;

Haven't seen one person pick their nose. Nope, not even the person preparing my food ...

Were there good things about my time in Thailand? Sure, but no where near enough to consider living there any longer, let alone dying there.

My wife is joining me in April. We have a bucket list in the first month that includes:

The Grand Canyon- camping and rafting;

Las Vegas- attending a Cirque de Sol show, and, in the casinos, losing money;

Driving north from San Diego through Malibu, sailing to and about Catalina, then taking Hwy 1 up the coast into Washington State and eventually Victoria, B.C. We'll stop at wineries and cheese farms along the way, detouring for camping in Sequoia National Park, and Redwood National Forest. Then Yosemite and back over to the coast .

Absolutely no way I would consider wasting another precious day of life in LOS.

Absolutely no way I would consider wasting another precious day of life in LOS.

But no problem wasting every single of your precious days on ThaiVisa

Yep, big waste of my day.

Woke up Saturday morning at 5:30 and drove up to Park CIty for some snowboarding in a refreshing 38 degrees. Then into Park City's quaint downtown to Squatters Brewpub for a fresh-made IPA, to wash down an Ahi Burger slathered with Pico de Gallo, avocado, and wasabi aioli, under a pile of sweet potato fries.

Then on the way back down the mountain into the city, we stopped at the Tracy Aviary (the oldest and largest in the States) for a few hours, followed by watching the finish line of the SLC Marathon from my buddy's condo, before finishing up the day with a few sets of tennis, under sunny skies and 68 degree weather.

So, what did you do?

I already posted about how I spent a day in Bangkok on an American forum. Because that's a normal thing to do.

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If you were comparing life in Thailand to life in America, that would have been highly appropriate.

Maybe, in an effort to stay on topic, you should post here what you did today in Bangkok that makes you feel it is the place for you and others, rather than engage in repeated personal attacks that reveal your obsession with my posting on this website.

[StreetCowboy]

My clan is migrating back to The Old Zcountry for educational reasons (apologies for the on-topic post). I'm glad that we've been lucky, and there's been no major unrest, we've suffered no major mishap...

Over the last year or so our building management has declined, and the bairns are now of an age when they could get into trouble, and I'd not. Want that to happen in Thailand

SC

[NeverSure]

My clan is migrating back to The Old Zcountry for educational reasons (apologies for the on-topic post). I'm glad that we've been lucky, and there's been no major unrest, we've suffered no major mishap...

Over the last year or so our building management has declined, and the bairns are now of an age when they could get into trouble, and I'd not. Want that to happen in Thailand

SC

Best of luck, mate.

[fey]

Lasted seven years, came back last fall.

Cost of living is cheaper here, better quality of life, and:

People smile without hoping for anything other than a smile back;

Haven't heard a single dog bark in three months, let alone been attacked by a pack of them;

No burning of plastic;

No loud music, caterwauling as the moon sets, or unbridled exhaust;

Haven't seen one person pick their nose. Nope, not even the person preparing my food ...

Were there good things about my time in Thailand? Sure, but no where near enough to consider living there any longer, let alone dying there.

My wife is joining me in April. We have a bucket list in the first month that includes:

The Grand Canyon- camping and rafting;

Las Vegas- attending a Cirque de Sol show, and, in the casinos, losing money;

Driving north from San Diego through Malibu, sailing to and about Catalina, then taking Hwy 1 up the coast into Washington State and eventually Victoria, B.C. We'll stop at wineries and cheese farms along the way, detouring for camping in Sequoia National Park, and Redwood National Forest. Then Yosemite and back over to the coast .

Absolutely no way I would consider wasting another precious day of life in LOS.

Absolutely no way I would consider wasting another precious day of life in LOS.

But no problem wasting every single of your precious days on ThaiVisa

being able to pee without standing barefoot in cold water is always a biggie for me when i return to the states.

[ScarpoFongness4U]

Its a reasonable question that is frequently posted on many threads and that is

Why do people who have left Thailand still post on TV

My answers may not surprise many

1) I have friends there

2)/I have girlfriends there

Some pro, some not

3)/I play music when I'm there

4)/I'm certain I'll visit again because of 1,2,3

5)/ it's a great vacation place when you have things to do, with people whose company you enjoy

6) until something changes mind when I'm older And can live with women in their 30's as girlfriends and I'm in my 60's

That isn't so readily available elsewhere

And Keith Richards has proven that you can play the guitar as long as you can stand, and Johnny Winter proved you can still play, as long as you can sit with the guitar in your lap

This and other reasons like keeping up with the pulse of the expat gossip and street news, is the reason I still read this mostly bickering nonsense,

But within it are some interesting and notable characters, despite my first 4 posting accounts being banned, thus my extended name

Edited April 19, 2015 by ScarpoFongness4U

[fey]

Its a reasonable question that is frequently posted on many threads and that is

Why do people who have left Thailand still post on TV

My answers may not surprise many

1) I have friends there

2)/I have girlfriends there

Some pro, some not

3)/I play music when I'm there

4)/I'm certain I'll visit again because of 1,2,3

5)/ it's a great vacation place when you have things to do, with people whose company you enjoy

6) until something changes mind when I'm older And can live with women in their 30's as girlfriends and I'm in my 60's

That isn't so readily available elsewhere

And Keith Richards has proven that you can play the guitar as long as you can stand, and Johnny Winter proved you can still play, as long as you can sit with the guitar in your lap

This and other reasons like keeping up with the pulse of the expat gossip and street news, is the reason I still read this mostly bickering nonsense,

But within it are some interesting and notable characters, despite my first 4 posting accounts being banned, thus my extended name

cultured sexpat

[JLCrab]

What did I do yesterday? Made my own d-mn wasabi aioli and caprese salad.

[beachproperty]

Its a reasonable question that is frequently posted on many threads and that is

Why do people who have left Thailand still post on TV

My answers may not surprise many

1) I have friends there

2)/I have girlfriends there

Some pro, some not

3)/I play music when I'm there

4)/I'm certain I'll visit again because of 1,2,3

5)/ it's a great vacation place when you have things to do, with people whose company you enjoy

6) until something changes mind when I'm older And can live with women in their 30's as girlfriends and I'm in my 60's

That isn't so readily available elsewhere

And Keith Richards has proven that you can play the guitar as long as you can stand, and Johnny Winter proved you can still play, as long as you can sit with the guitar in your lap

This and other reasons like keeping up with the pulse of the expat gossip and street news, is the reason I still read this mostly bickering nonsense,

But within it are some interesting and notable characters, despite my first 4 posting accounts being banned, thus my extended name

May not always agree with you...but Scarplo/Stevefong, as the resident soapy king....good to see you back!

Edited April 19, 2015 by beachproperty

[JLCrab]

The only thing that I really miss in Florida (other than family and a few long-time friends) is the springs. Me NOV 2014 visit photo by a friend:

[HeijoshinCool]

What did I do yesterday? Made my own d-mn wasabi aioli and caprese salad.

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I used to make my own when I lived in Thailand, but yesterday I was just too busy snowboarding and playing tennis.

Edited April 19, 2015 by HeijoshinCool

[HeijoshinCool]

The only thing that I really miss in Florida (other than family and a few long-time friends) is the springs. Me NOV 2014 visit photo by a friend:

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Used to live minutes up the road from there, in Micanopy. Water as clear as glass.

Big gators, too.

[JLCrab]

What did I do yesterday? Made my own d-mn wasabi aioli and caprese salad.

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I used to make my own when I lived in Thailand, but yesterday I was just too busy snowboarding and playing tennis.

Well that sure sounds like weekends at the ski areas because you weren't so worn out that you could play tennis afterwards. When I lived in Colorado I mostly went skiing on the weekdays where you could get more runs in one day than several weekends with the long lift lines.

[HeijoshinCool]

What did I do yesterday? Made my own d-mn wasabi aioli and caprese salad.

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I used to make my own when I lived in Thailand, but yesterday I was just too busy snowboarding and playing tennis.

Well that sure sounds like weekends at the ski areas because you weren't so worn out that you could play tennis afterwards. When I lived in Colorado I mostly went skiing on the weekdays where you could get more runs in one day than several weekends with the long lift lines.

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Yup, long lines. Little snow this year and just the day before about a foot fell, so was busy. Weekdays, sadly, duty calls.

[NeverSure]

The only thing that I really miss in Florida (other than family and a few long-time friends) is the springs. Me NOV 2014 visit photo by a friend:

I miss the food. Those people can cook.

Chicken and dumplings.

Grits.

Pecan Pie.

Catfish and hush puppies.

Peanuts boiled in saltwater.

Southern cornbread. (They add a touch of sugar, and many brown a little of the cornmeal in a skillet first.)

Southern fried chicken with white chicken gravy.

Biscuits and gravy.

Biscuits and gravy, fried mashed potatoes and fried onions.

Corn Fritters

[JLCrab]

'Sadly' -- That's the first time that word has cropped up in your extollations of livin' back in the good ol' USA.