Lite Beer Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Workers needed for five key industriesBy Digital Content BANGKOK Feb 21 -- As Thailand is now heading towards an elderly society, the Industry Ministry’s Office of Industrial Economics has projected that the country would need about 3.3 million workers for five key industries between 2015 – 2017.Udom Wongwiwatchai, director-general of Office of Industrial Economics, said a possible of shortage of workers in five principle industries, including food and beverage, garment and textile, electronics, auto and parts, and industrial and machinery, was based on data collected between 2011 – 2012 and assuming that Thailand’s economy would grow 4 per cent between 2015 – 2017.It is found that demand for workers in those five key industries would be as high as 3.3 million, he said, adding that Thailand would have to depend on employing foreign workers in these industries because the country is embarking on an aged society while unemployment in the country stood at between 0.6 – 0.7 per cent only.He said in the short-term the country needs to improve workers’ skill before they are employed and support must be given to industrial operators on promoting “talent mobility.”Workers’ skill must be further improved while operators must be prepared for investment in machinery, research and development, and lay out production and human development strategies over the short- and long-term, said Mr Udom. (MCOT online news) -- TNA 2015-02-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 So industries will have to find other countries to set up in. 3.3 million workers needed, I really wonder how they come up with these figures. But if they really need that many workers then Thailand is in Trouble. IMO, they don't know what they are talking about. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fiddlesticks Posted February 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2015 Why would Thai want to work in these industries when it is so much more profitable to 'earn' money from drugs, porn, prostitution, and bilking tourists? Get real! Thailand will always follow the path of least resistance (by that I mean work or effort). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Have they got that many work permits ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Of course they are short of workers in these areas, it takes up countless millions of workers to watch the rice grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy chef 1 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 skilled worker is the right term.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod reborn Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 It's no surprise that Thailand will need to import foreign labor. There's a mechanism in place to do it, ASEAN integration. But, Thailand will screw that up with overly burdensome immigration policies and protectionist labor regulations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) "Thailand would have to depend on employing foreign workers in these industries because the country is embarking on an aged society ..." And..It is statements like this that reflect the real problem. It has nothing to do with an aged society. It is an UNEDUCATED society that is not prepared to support industries outside of traditional agriculture and unskilled piece work. Instead of fabricating lame excuses for industrial failures, what is needed is a revamping of the traditional education system that will place achievement by any student above the mediocre performances of children from important families. It would also benefit if industrial institutions would train their students to be skilled craftsmen instead of murdering thugs. Edited February 21, 2015 by jaltsc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) We have exactly the same problem in EU, or the NW part of EU. Lack of skilled workers, truck drivers, Waiters in restaurants and Handy Men ETC. He** we don’t even have skilled people to dig a hole in the road. So now the companies are allowed to bring in people from the rest of the world. Of course, they don’t need to pay NW European salaries. We are so short of skilled people so we even need to import workers to pick berries. This is a so advanced job so we can’t use the uneducated and illiterate Rumanian beggars claiming that they hate to beg and can do any job. Edited February 21, 2015 by Aladdin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I wonder how many school leavers a year will be coming on line looking for jobs, must be in the millions, but then as a previous poster has pointed out they will all become prostitutes and drug dealers once they get their degrees from the universities specializing in those occupations. How skilled does one have to be to get a job as a nut tightener in an auto factory, a sewing machine operator in a garment factory or a prawn sorter. Surely it is up to the industries themselves to have training programs for they skills they want, to work in with various collages and learning institutions in the vicinity of their workplaces to arrange programs and courses that turn out students with the skills they need. Rather than general education courses and degrees there should be specific courses aimed at career paths Instead of someone coming out of university with a general BA. Employers should be able to have a hand in designing courses that will produce the talent they need. And to be able to guarantee good well paid jobs to the best students who have shown a willingness to work hard and achieve. Education reform and incentive for the kids. While on education reform; there should also be specialist teachers collages set with up specialist teacher, teachers instead of the present set up with someone going into a school as a trainee teacher and 'sort of' learning on the job under a teacher of who knows what quality. This would produce a new generation of teachers not reliant on the same 'in school' way of doing things, they would also cater for higher teacher qualifications in specialist subjects like Math, language, administration ETC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) What about learning how to work efficiently? With some good educated managers half of the thai workforce can be missed. Thai only want to sit in aircon, have their own silly shop and play on their phone all day. It's time some big company arrive and show them how the rest of the world works. Just go to Japan/Europe and look how they work there. Teach the police how to work and all those security guards can do something usefull. Buy electric tools and all the gardeners can do something else. Learn a new word, it's called "durable" or "maintenance free"...... Make traffic more safe so there won't be so many accidents that cause people to stop working. Edited February 21, 2015 by Thian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equalizer Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 unemployment in the country stood at between 0.6 – 0.7 per cent only. Hmmmm ye right. And how could they possibly know this figure considering there is absolutely no welfare system to compare with. Should they wish to assess the situation i would ask them to offer the official figure of exactly how many people in the country are paying tax. If you are not paying tax you are not in Employment legally. I would suggest 50% of the Thai population are not registered as paying working tax. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasswort Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 unemployment in the country stood at between 0.6 – 0.7 per cent only. Has to be the lowest rate in the world! As far as I am aware there is no health or benefit system, no proper tax collection scheme (except for expats that is) so how do they know how many people are unemployed? Absolute b******t and yet another instance of some half baked official opening his mouth before engaging his brain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 They will have to make WP's easier to get and let companies hire foreigners. I have been told many time by Chevron they would love to hire me but they are not allowed to. Maybe Thailand is starting to see it cant do everything on its own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 unemployment in the country stood at between 0.6 – 0.7 per cent only. Has to be the lowest rate in the world! As far as I am aware there is no health or benefit system, no proper tax collection scheme (except for expats that is) so how do they know how many people are unemployed? Absolute b******t and yet another instance of some half baked official opening his mouth before engaging his brain. It is not a half baked official opening his mouth before engaging his brain. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-02/thailand-s-unemployment-rate-is-a-ridiculously-low-0-6-here-s-why Google is your friend…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebrown Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 There is a ready made pool of Thai labour languishing in the RTP and Military, both of which are overstaffed by 100% compared with the UK. No need for work permits, just the 'attitude adjustment' to get out of bed each morning and do a real day's work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> There is a ready made pool of Thai labour languishing in the RTP and Military, both of which are overstaffed by 100% compared with the UK. No need for work permits, just the 'attitude adjustment' to get out of bed each morning and do a real day's work! That would be something for the people in the UK as well. They complain, the ones that work, at 40 hour weeks. Trouble is people are getting lazy.If these areas were you say they are over staffed cut back, would the people be capable of performing any of the high tech jobs such as IT and Communications? I would doubt it. I agree these areas you mention are probably top heavy but please dont compare it to the UK. Government offices are grossly over populated with people who wont look at a paper if they have looked at their daily quota of 2 sheets a day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Umm, most of these factories were set up because Thailand had a regular supply of reasonably educated labour that could take on these semi skilled jobs. Now if this gentleman has popped his head over the parapet and announced that it is not so, is there not a risk that these industries might beetle of elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post novo58 Posted February 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2015 I dont suppose they will consider using the vast pool of skilled falang workers that are resident in the country..................... Note I said RESIDENT ,not tourists they have our info, details, location...................and we would most likely PAY TAX on our wages as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Most middle and upper class Thais don't wanna do the "dirty work" such as automobile, engineering, restaurant work, science.... Edited February 21, 2015 by MaxLee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moobie Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 "BANGKOK Feb 21 -- As Thailand is now heading towards an elderly society, the Industry Ministry’s Office of Industrial Economics has projected that the country would need about 3.3 million workers for five key industries between 2015 – 2017." Was I the only one on reading the above as a "headline" thought that they were referring to industries surrounding the care professions? Or do the Thai leaders not realise that the more "young" they place in factories, etc. the fewer able to take care of their old parents/family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Most middle and upper class Thais don't wanna do the "dirty work" such as automobile, engineering, restaurant work, science.... Trouble is the word engineering is a very misused one. Everyone seems to feel they are engineers and they are not. A Technician is a technician. Invaluable as they are they are not engineers. Scientists are highly qualified people. If you want to be either an Engineer or a Scientist you had better be good at advanced mathematics else forget it. From your message I dont believe you understand what "Engineers" actually do. I dont blame you as the title has become abused in many countries. The USA has PE, Europe has Ing and the UK has C.Eng. but I doubt if many people, certainly on TV have any idea what these are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 He has said how many he needs. Now what does he need? engineers, bookkeepers or unskilled workers, coffeeladies, drivers? If the man could put some effort into schooling farmers who can't make it on their own. takes care of a lot of problems at the same time. among other things unnecessary burning of jungles to create more land, but not enough people to work the land and crops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 "... assuming that Thailand’s economy would grow 4 per cent between 2015 – 2017." Growth for 2015 will be 2.5-3% so that's one less year to worry about! At best new elections will come in 2016 and at worse beyond 2017 with the Junta keeping martial law and a Junta-led government in place. If the Junta continues to aggravate Western nations over the lack of any progress to return democracy to the nation, strenghten its alliance with China, and continues human rights violations, the economy may suffer further into deflation. So the "good" news is that Thailand has a possibility to have such an economic slowdown between 2015-2017 that it won't have a need to fill jobs - they will be lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 So industries will have to find other countries to set up in. 3.3 million workers needed, I really wonder how they come up with these figures. But if they really need that many workers then Thailand is in Trouble. IMO, they don't know what they are talking about. Its like the world over there are so many underemployed. Underemployed survive but do not buy things that keep an economy humming along. People are scrapping by to survive against an ever increasing cost of living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angiolo Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 What would be the rate of pay. Min. wage is 300 BAHT a day. Several companies have closed down saying they cant afford such high wages No incentive for factory workers .Call in more Burmese workers at less money.. Human rights LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Oh, and we forgot to mention, fresh graduates from the University of slave labor are welcomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thakkar Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 This is true of employers everywhere, but especially countries like Thailand that have spent more than the requisite number of years in the "developing" category. Employers as a group, and especially as a lobby group conveniently have things backwards, because it suits their purpose to do so. They claim they can't increase wages because workers aren't skilled. They want the government to spend the money to get workers up to scratch while simultaneously demanding low taxes and also tax benefits to hire more workers. Where's the government supposed to find the money to fund the education employers demand? Not their problem. If government can't train workers fast enough, open the borders so we can bring in the workers we need, at the price we want to pay. Other countries have shown that by mandating higher wages, they've created the incentives the average Joe needs to invest the time and money needed to improve his skills. With virtually full employment, wages shouldn't be as low as they are. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksamuiguy Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 As NOVO58 said. The resources are and have always been here. NOT TOURISTS, NOT STUDENTS, retired, married Non O people. The availability of unlimited resources and knowledge in almost limitless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 "Workers needed for five key industries" I dont understand why Thais would have trouble finding people to make keys it seems like a simple enough job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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