Former Thai leaders may face impeachment over 2010 crackdown

[candide]

Come on guys they are not yet impeached! Let's see what the NLA will decide. Hmmmmm.....

[englishoak]

Exactly as yet impeachment is just a suggestion, waiting for something to actually happen here dosnt mean it will.

Agree with some other posters, impeachment is for people in office not after the fact, all very bizarre but of course impeachment carries a 5 year ban which is the sweetener.

Its more likely there are deals going on behind the scenes and its possible a few sacrificial lambs will be rolled out, Suthep as hes over and done in party politics is a good option, Abhisit possibly because hes seen as damaged goods. Id prefer to see them answering real and criminal charges but whatever.

its also a real possibility any guilty verdict will be dated from the offence date of 2010 + 5 years = 2015 so nothing to gain there.

[webfact]

Former Thai PM Faces Political Ban After 2010 Crackdown

Former Thai PM and former Deputy PM face impeachment and a political ban after a bloody crackdown on protestors in 2010.

Former Thai PM Abhisit Vejjajiva is facing a political ban after overseeing a bloody crackdown on protestors in 2010. Thai’s anti-corruption body ruled that the former prime minister may have abused his power. The decision could lead to a five-year ban from political office.

Full story: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/803348-former-thai-pm-faces-political-ban-after-2010-crackdown/

[webfact]

NACC wants impeachment of Abhisit, Suthep over 2010 crackdown
The Nation

The National Anti-Corruption Commission has unanimously resolved to kick off the process of impeaching former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and his deputy Suthep Thaugsuban for their alleged mishandling of the bloody break-up of a red-shirt rally in 2010.

The April-May crackdown on protesters left more than 90 people dead, mostly red-shirt members of the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship, but also ordinary citizens.

Vicha Mahakhun, spokesman for the NACC, said yesterday that Abhisit and Suthep did not review or adjust the tactics used by military personnel to disperse the demonstrators.

Neither did they order a halt to the operation.

The court concluded that many deaths were caused by the military campaign under their command.

Not only were unarmed protesters wounded and killed but also bystanders, including a boy, were killed.

These tragedies suggested wrongdoing not in keeping with the duties and positions of Abhisit and Suthep and thus there were grounds to impeach them.

They will be asked to report to the NACC within 15 days to hear the charges. They will be given the opportunity to defend themselves by providing evidence and witness testimony.

As for other state officials who carried out their duties in the dispersal of the protesters, the NACC will look into whether they should also be held accountable.

As for possible criminal charges against Abhisit and Suthep, that would be decided later.

There are cases where forensic examinations are still continuing, Vicha said.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/NACC-wants-impeachment-of-Abhisit-Suthep-over-2010-30254815.html

-- The Nation 2015-02-25

[Robby nz]

Not only were unarmed protesters wounded and killed but also bystanders, including a boy, were killed.

Yep bystanders and ordinary citizens going about their business like the lady in the skytrain station that was killed by a deliberate grenade attack on that station.

And how many others killed by grenade and rifle fire by the armed element of the "Peaceful protesters" ?

As yet I have seen no logical reason for the riots to have started in the first place, except the greed and hunger for power of Thaksin who funded them then sat in luxury while his paid thugs urged their their followers to overthrow a legal government by any means including arson.

[CaptHaddock]

Not only were unarmed protesters wounded and killed but also bystanders, including a boy, were killed.

Yep bystanders and ordinary citizens going about their business like the lady in the skytrain station that was killed by a deliberate grenade attack on that station.

And how many others killed by grenade and rifle fire by the armed element of the "Peaceful protesters" ?

As yet I have seen no logical reason for the riots to have started in the first place, except the greed and hunger for power of Thaksin who funded them then sat in luxury while his paid thugs urged their their followers to overthrow a legal government by any means including arson.

The red shirts in 2010 were calling for elections, the fundamental right of citizens in a democracy not to have a govt imposed on them by a coup! Their actions in 2010 led to the election with a majority of Yingluck in 2011, the clear choice of the Thai electorate. At that point, according to later remarks by Suthep, he and Prayut started planning to remove Yingluck from power illegally.

Edited February 24, 2015 by CaptHaddock

[Fatty123]

Suthep in jail? The man is untouchable. Hasn't he got a few high ranking mates in the military? Dangerous game being played out here (unless it's a smokescreen of course. ''We looked at it but found no wrongdoing etc'')

And Mark? The little Etonian of privilege that went on to Oxford? He's the elite's golden boy. No chance.

Always upsets me. He could've been great for Thailand (Abhisit). Despite the obvious privilege, he's highly intelligent, speaks perfect English and is a brilliant public speaker. Thing is, instead of doing something useful with his massively expensive British education, he wasted it by following the same old elitist mantra and completely alienating the poor, to the point where he is now completely unelectable.

Make no mistake, he is utterly despised by many, many Thais. Such a shame and such a waste for Thailand.

Edited February 24, 2015 by Fatty123

[daveAustin]

What a crock. Anyone with half a brain would know that had it been anyone else in power at the time we'd have hundreds dead. He did everything to prevent bloodshed. I agree it's a smokescreen as this group couldn't be so dumb to collar him for that reason. I also agree that Mark is totally wasted on this place. They're not ready for brainpower and logic up top.

[smutcakes]

I just cannot believe this is anything put a PR move.

If they are charged properly, then presumably have the chance to defend themselves, you would of thought the light may be shone on the army as well, which just will not do.

Suthep in particularly has far to much power/influence/knowledge to be made to squeal.

[Ricardo]

Actually its great and needs to be done for after someone took the charges against them to the wrong court either because they knew they could never get a conviction and wanted to show they were doing something or through ignorance of the law. there has not been a platform where all the speeches from the stages, the videos of the men in black (who never existed) and all the other evidence they can produce in their defense can be aired.

Now they have a chance to bring all of this out and show exactly what did go on and what they had to counter.

I am sure it will not suit the red mercenary leaders (yes that's what people who get paid to riot are) to have all their speeches come back to haunt them, nor Thaksin when all the recorded phone-ins are rebroadcast.

Wrong court?

DSI about six months before the NCPO coup charged both with MURDER and took the case to the Criminal Court for justice. Two months after the coup, the court decides it has no jurisdiction and the case goes to the NACC for indictment. But now the charge is political abuse of power.

Yingluck is criminally charged for paying double the market price for rice to rice farmers but murder is only worth a five-year ban from public office. Is this really the best justice the NCPO can devise?

"murder is only worth a five-year ban from public office"

IMO your indignation is a trifle premature, as neither Yingluck nor Abhisit & Suthep have yet been found guilty, whether of corruption or murder, so it's way too early to start complaining about their harsh/light sentences.

One point in Robby's quoted-post, PTP clearly mishandled the original cases against the latter two, which was either through ignorance or stupidity, and it even failed in its suspected real-objective, to pressure them into supporting (or going-along with) Thaksin's Amnesty Bill.

Meanwhile the army were never really put in-the-dock by Yingluck's government, over the deaths of the Red-Shirt protesters and others, no indignation about that one ? No wonder the relatives continue to complain that they were sold-out by their own side !

Where was the justice in that ?

Edited February 25, 2015 by Ricardo

[CaptHaddock]

I am going to go way out on a limb here and make predictions: Yingluck will be found guilty and Tweedledee and Tweedledum will walk off scot-free.

[aussieinthailand]

Apparently someone's got 93.6% approval but maybe this is just insurance? take out both sides and WHALLA, Look mum now I'm legit.

but far more likely it's window dressing in a dismal attempt to show the un-bias nature of this lot Look see we are fair, we are good, we are, we are, we are.

If they were indeed serious then this should have happened 4 years ago, What a load.

And some here are buying this snot, Ahhh there's a sucker born every day.

Edited February 25, 2015 by aussieinthailand

[tbthailand]

Suthep must be scratching his head,after all he did all the leg work to enable the coup to take place and now this.

Hahahahahahahahaha!

Too bad they won't actually follow through with this.

he's not scratching his head... he knows nothing will come of this. These guys are showboating it for the international community. It will drag on and then get dropped / exonerated a long time into the future.

in the unlikely event that these two are convicted, then I will publicly eat my words right here.

[casualbiker]

Not only were unarmed protesters wounded and killed but also bystanders, including a boy, were killed.

Yep bystanders and ordinary citizens going about their business like the lady in the skytrain station that was killed by a deliberate grenade attack on that station.

And how many others killed by grenade and rifle fire by the armed element of the "Peaceful protesters" ?

As yet I have seen no logical reason for the riots to have started in the first place, except the greed and hunger for power of Thaksin who funded them then sat in luxury while his paid thugs urged their their followers to overthrow a legal government by any means including arson.

The red shirts in 2010 were calling for elections, the fundamental right of citizens in a democracy not to have a govt imposed on them by a coup! Their actions in 2010 led to the election with a majority of Yingluck in 2011, the clear choice of the Thai electorate. At that point, according to later remarks by Suthep, he and Prayut started planning to remove Yingluck from power illegally.

Explain which government was imposed by a coup ?

[tbthailand]

Actually its great and needs to be done for after someone took the charges against them to the wrong court either because they knew they could never get a conviction and wanted to show they were doing something or through ignorance of the law. there has not been a platform where all the speeches from the stages, the videos of the men in black (who never existed) and all the other evidence they can produce in their defense can be aired.

Now they have a chance to bring all of this out and show exactly what did go on and what they had to counter.

I am sure it will not suit the red mercenary leaders (yes that's what people who get paid to riot are) to have all their speeches come back to haunt them, nor Thaksin when all the recorded phone-ins are rebroadcast.

Wrong court?

DSI about six months before the NCPO coup charged both with MURDER and took the case to the Criminal Court for justice. Two months after the coup, the court decides it has no jurisdiction and the case goes to the NACC for indictment. But now the charge is political abuse of power.

Yingluck is criminally charged for paying double the market price for rice to rice farmers but murder is only worth a five-year ban from public office. Is this really the best justice the NCPO can devise?

"murder is only worth a five-year ban from public office"

IMO your indignation is a trifle premature, as neither Yingluck nor Abhisit & Suthep have yet been found guilty, whether of corruption or murder, so it's way too early to start complaining about their harsh/light sentences.

One point in Robby's quoted-post, PTP clearly mishandled the original cases against the latter two, which was either through ignorance or stupidity, and it even failed in its suspected real-objective, to pressure them into supporting (or going-along with) Thaksin's Amnesty Bill.

Meanwhile the army were never really put in-the-dock by Yingluck's government, over the deaths of the Red-Shirt protesters and others, no indignation about that one ? No wonder the relatives continue to complain that they were sold-out by their own side !

Where was the justice in that ?

PTP clearly mishandled the original cases against the latter two

PTP was in charge of the case against Abhisit and Suthep?

Sorry, that would be like the Junta being in charge of convicting Yingluck... I don't think that was how the case against A/S was handled, ... do you?

[tbthailand]

Not only were unarmed protesters wounded and killed but also bystanders, including a boy, were killed.

Yep bystanders and ordinary citizens going about their business like the lady in the skytrain station that was killed by a deliberate grenade attack on that station.

And how many others killed by grenade and rifle fire by the armed element of the "Peaceful protesters" ?

As yet I have seen no logical reason for the riots to have started in the first place, except the greed and hunger for power of Thaksin who funded them then sat in luxury while his paid thugs urged their their followers to overthrow a legal government by any means including arson.

The red shirts in 2010 were calling for elections, the fundamental right of citizens in a democracy not to have a govt imposed on them by a coup! Their actions in 2010 led to the election with a majority of Yingluck in 2011, the clear choice of the Thai electorate. At that point, according to later remarks by Suthep, he and Prayut started planning to remove Yingluck from power illegally.

Explain which government was imposed by a coup ?

In this case, it would have been the one from December 2008. Abhisit's government.

It's known as a judicial coup.

The same tactic may have been "Plan A" in 2014, but in the end, we just got an "intervention".

[casualbiker]

Not only were unarmed protesters wounded and killed but also bystanders, including a boy, were killed.

Yep bystanders and ordinary citizens going about their business like the lady in the skytrain station that was killed by a deliberate grenade attack on that station.

And how many others killed by grenade and rifle fire by the armed element of the "Peaceful protesters" ?

As yet I have seen no logical reason for the riots to have started in the first place, except the greed and hunger for power of Thaksin who funded them then sat in luxury while his paid thugs urged their their followers to overthrow a legal government by any means including arson.

The red shirts in 2010 were calling for elections, the fundamental right of citizens in a democracy not to have a govt imposed on them by a coup! Their actions in 2010 led to the election with a majority of Yingluck in 2011, the clear choice of the Thai electorate. At that point, according to later remarks by Suthep, he and Prayut started planning to remove Yingluck from power illegally.

Explain which government was imposed by a coup ?

In this case, it would have been the one from December 2008. Abhisit's government.

It's known as a judicial coup.

The same tactic may have been "Plan A" in 2014, but in the end, we just got an "intervention".

" The sieges ended in December due to the verdict of the Constitutional Court, which dissolved the PPP and banned its executive board from political office after finding it

guilty of election fraud. The Constitutional Court dissolved two coalition partners of the PPP on similar charges, which broke the coalition apart. Prime minister Somchai resigned.

It is alleged that the army then urged MPs of a former PPP faction, the Friends of Newin Group, and MPs of the former PPP coalition partners to cross the aisle and form a coalition with the Democrat Party leaderAbhisit Vejjajiva. After days of negotiations, Abhisit Vejjajiva, leader of the Democrat Party, was voted in eventually by a margin of 235 in favor and 198 against."

It's certainly possible you're correct about the first part. With the exception that they were disqualified for election fraud. If they didn't do it they couldn't have been disqualified. The second part about Abhisit's government. He was elected PM in exactly the same way as every other PM including Somchai who he replaced. It's also a falsehood to say he was unelected he was an MP so he was certainly elected (he got the highest vote count)

Edited February 25, 2015 by casualbiker

[jaidam]

Janitor arrested, after doing his best to clean up the steaming pile of dog <deleted> the school bully threw at his door.

[Baerboxer]

Actually its great and needs to be done for after someone took the charges against them to the wrong court either because they knew they could never get a conviction and wanted to show they were doing something or through ignorance of the law. there has not been a platform where all the speeches from the stages, the videos of the men in black (who never existed) and all the other evidence they can produce in their defense can be aired.

Now they have a chance to bring all of this out and show exactly what did go on and what they had to counter.

I am sure it will not suit the red mercenary leaders (yes that's what people who get paid to riot are) to have all their speeches come back to haunt them, nor Thaksin when all the recorded phone-ins are rebroadcast.

Wrong court?

DSI about six months before the NCPO coup charged both with MURDER and took the case to the Criminal Court for justice. Two months after the coup, the court decides it has no jurisdiction and the case goes to the NACC for indictment. But now the charge is political abuse of power.

Yingluck is criminally charged for paying double the market price for rice to rice farmers but murder is only worth a five-year ban from public office. Is this really the best justice the NCPO can devise?

After PTP came to power the then head of the DSI, now under investigation himself, decided not to pursue a charge of perjury against Yingluck for lying in court. On the day she took office. The retiring OAG decided, despite all the freely available video evidence Thaksin could not be prosecuted for his involvement in the 2010 insurgency riots because he "wasn't in the country" at the time. His successor promised to review this odd decision but we're still waiting.

Yingluck is charged because very very little (confirmed by the World Bank) of the money ever reached the farmers. the poorest of which were excluded from the scheme anyway; and most importantly she refuses to explain where the money actually went, why she repeatedly lied and why she ignored many warnings.

Yingluck also chose to do <deleted> all about the daily attacks and murders of her opponents and innocent bystanders.

The people want justice alright - starting with the crooks from the last regime.

[CaptHaddock]

Not only were unarmed protesters wounded and killed but also bystanders, including a boy, were killed.

Yep bystanders and ordinary citizens going about their business like the lady in the skytrain station that was killed by a deliberate grenade attack on that station.

And how many others killed by grenade and rifle fire by the armed element of the "Peaceful protesters" ?

As yet I have seen no logical reason for the riots to have started in the first place, except the greed and hunger for power of Thaksin who funded them then sat in luxury while his paid thugs urged their their followers to overthrow a legal government by any means including arson.

The red shirts in 2010 were calling for elections, the fundamental right of citizens in a democracy not to have a govt imposed on them by a coup! Their actions in 2010 led to the election with a majority of Yingluck in 2011, the clear choice of the Thai electorate. At that point, according to later remarks by Suthep, he and Prayut started planning to remove Yingluck from power illegally.

Explain which government was imposed by a coup ?

Be serious. You don't imagine Abhisit and Suthep ever won any election, do you? They got there by one military coup, and two (royalist) judicial coups that dissolved the party that won the election of 2008 and it's successor party.

[Baerboxer]

Actually its great and needs to be done for after someone took the charges against them to the wrong court either because they knew they could never get a conviction and wanted to show they were doing something or through ignorance of the law. there has not been a platform where all the speeches from the stages, the videos of the men in black (who never existed) and all the other evidence they can produce in their defense can be aired.

Now they have a chance to bring all of this out and show exactly what did go on and what they had to counter.

I am sure it will not suit the red mercenary leaders (yes that's what people who get paid to riot are) to have all their speeches come back to haunt them, nor Thaksin when all the recorded phone-ins are rebroadcast.

Wrong court?

DSI about six months before the NCPO coup charged both with MURDER and took the case to the Criminal Court for justice. Two months after the coup, the court decides it has no jurisdiction and the case goes to the NACC for indictment. But now the charge is political abuse of power.

Yingluck is criminally charged for paying double the market price for rice to rice farmers but murder is only worth a five-year ban from public office. Is this really the best justice the NCPO can devise?

"murder is only worth a five-year ban from public office"

IMO your indignation is a trifle premature, as neither Yingluck nor Abhisit & Suthep have yet been found guilty, whether of corruption or murder, so it's way too early to start complaining about their harsh/light sentences.

One point in Robby's quoted-post, PTP clearly mishandled the original cases against the latter two, which was either through ignorance or stupidity, and it even failed in its suspected real-objective, to pressure them into supporting (or going-along with) Thaksin's Amnesty Bill.

Meanwhile the army were never really put in-the-dock by Yingluck's government, over the deaths of the Red-Shirt protesters and others, no indignation about that one ? No wonder the relatives continue to complain that they were sold-out by their own side !

Where was the justice in that ?

PTP clearly mishandled the original cases against the latter two

PTP was in charge of the case against Abhisit and Suthep?

Sorry, that would be like the Junta being in charge of convicting Yingluck... I don't think that was how the case against A/S was handled, ... do you?

In your mind it seems all charges against the Shins are politically motivated with judges told what the verdict will be. But all charges against others aren't and PTP never ever try to influence the judiciary, tell them what the verdict should be with warnings of what "might" happen if it isn't.

Strange how the Shins are always innocent, never try bribery, intimidation, violence to try and influence things. Well in your mind anyway,

[ldiablo]

Prayuth would never allow his dear friend Suthep to be impeached.

[Baerboxer]

Not only were unarmed protesters wounded and killed but also bystanders, including a boy, were killed.

Yep bystanders and ordinary citizens going about their business like the lady in the skytrain station that was killed by a deliberate grenade attack on that station.

And how many others killed by grenade and rifle fire by the armed element of the "Peaceful protesters" ?

As yet I have seen no logical reason for the riots to have started in the first place, except the greed and hunger for power of Thaksin who funded them then sat in luxury while his paid thugs urged their their followers to overthrow a legal government by any means including arson.

The red shirts in 2010 were calling for elections, the fundamental right of citizens in a democracy not to have a govt imposed on them by a coup! Their actions in 2010 led to the election with a majority of Yingluck in 2011, the clear choice of the Thai electorate. At that point, according to later remarks by Suthep, he and Prayut started planning to remove Yingluck from power illegally.

Almost true. Thaksin was removed from the caretaker PM role he has seized and was occupying illegally. His puppet party was dissolved and Abhisit was voted into office my MP's, in accordance with Thai law, and Royally endorsed.

The red shirt insurrection was sparked, oddly enough, when some of Thaksin's assets were seized. Abhisit negotiated a new election date with the red shirt appointed leaders (no democracy there) which was agreed. But Thaksin didn't want that and instructed otherwise,which led to the increase in violent confrontation.

Yingluck never received a majority in the election, that's just repeating a red lie. PTP received the largest minority vote and Yingluck never received one single vote herself but was placed at number one on the party list at her brother's, the criminal fugitive who owns and controls PTP, command.

Do you have any proof about the accusations you make against Prayuth and Suthep?

Yingluck was removed by a court because she broke the law. Her brother has the same disregard for laws which is why he's now an outlaw. Seems a family trait given all the convictions that family can boast between them. No wonder they want an amnesty whitewash and re-write of history.

[rubl]

Not only were unarmed protesters wounded and killed but also bystanders, including a boy, were killed.

Yep bystanders and ordinary citizens going about their business like the lady in the skytrain station that was killed by a deliberate grenade attack on that station.

And how many others killed by grenade and rifle fire by the armed element of the "Peaceful protesters" ?

As yet I have seen no logical reason for the riots to have started in the first place, except the greed and hunger for power of Thaksin who funded them then sat in luxury while his paid thugs urged their their followers to overthrow a legal government by any means including arson.

The red shirts in 2010 were calling for elections, the fundamental right of citizens in a democracy not to have a govt imposed on them by a coup! Their actions in 2010 led to the election with a majority of Yingluck in 2011, the clear choice of the Thai electorate. At that point, according to later remarks by Suthep, he and Prayut started planning to remove Yingluck from power illegally.

You might have missed that since the 2006 coup there had been general elections in December 2007. first the late Samak as PM then Thaksin selected his brother-in-law. When the PPP was dissolved for blatant vote buying and then PM Somchai had to step down no one thought of dissolving the House. Consequently the MPs could still elect a new PM.

Of course such legalities are unimportant to some who have no problem with a criminal fugitive running the show.

[lucky11]

Yingluck, Suthep or Abhiset, regardless, this whole impeachment business is a colossal waste of time.

Well! If they impeach everyone then there will be no one to run for the first election. Yeah! Mr. P for thinking ahead.

Yes and make it even easier, he can say he does not allow any candidates that are running against him

He is NOT running in the election once they have sorted them out!!

[Baerboxer]

Can hear all the gnashing of teeth of the TV red shirts - trying to think of what to say that this turn of events...

Makes you wonder what the comments would have been if the NACC had declared to see no valid reasons to further investigate a possible case of "abuse of power" involving Abhisit/Suthep

PS will former PM Somchai lodge a defamation case against the NACC since they didn't deem him important enough for impeachment, but directly went to the Supreme Court with the "abuse of power' case ?

As you may know my view is that both Abhisit and Suthep have serious questions to answer about this period.Nevertheless it is also my strongly held view that this matter has nothing repeat nothing to do with the NACC.They should mind their own damned business and concentrate on eradicating corruption, their only purpose for existence.

It doesn't take a genius to work out this latest piece of tomfoolery is more evidence of out of control right wing crazies.

It's a moot point but they seem to regard abuse of power as corruption and therefore it falls under the NACC sphere. I guess it's just how they interpret things.

But yes, it's a bit curious to say the least, why after all this time the NACC suddenly decide this.

Maybe Abhisit and Suthep are seen by some to be too "center right" or simply no longer wanted and past their sell by date.

[rubl]

Actually its great and needs to be done for after someone took the charges against them to the wrong court either because they knew they could never get a conviction and wanted to show they were doing something or through ignorance of the law. there has not been a platform where all the speeches from the stages, the videos of the men in black (who never existed) and all the other evidence they can produce in their defense can be aired.

Now they have a chance to bring all of this out and show exactly what did go on and what they had to counter.

I am sure it will not suit the red mercenary leaders (yes that's what people who get paid to riot are) to have all their speeches come back to haunt them, nor Thaksin when all the recorded phone-ins are rebroadcast.

Wrong court?

DSI about six months before the NCPO coup charged both with MURDER and took the case to the Criminal Court for justice. Two months after the coup, the court decides it has no jurisdiction and the case goes to the NACC for indictment. But now the charge is political abuse of power.

Yingluck is criminally charged for paying double the market price for rice to rice farmers but murder is only worth a five-year ban from public office. Is this really the best justice the NCPO can devise?

"murder is only worth a five-year ban from public office"

IMO your indignation is a trifle premature, as neither Yingluck nor Abhisit & Suthep have yet been found guilty, whether of corruption or murder, so it's way too early to start complaining about their harsh/light sentences.

One point in Robby's quoted-post, PTP clearly mishandled the original cases against the latter two, which was either through ignorance or stupidity, and it even failed in its suspected real-objective, to pressure them into supporting (or going-along with) Thaksin's Amnesty Bill.

Meanwhile the army were never really put in-the-dock by Yingluck's government, over the deaths of the Red-Shirt protesters and others, no indignation about that one ? No wonder the relatives continue to complain that they were sold-out by their own side !

Where was the justice in that ?

PTP clearly mishandled the original cases against the latter two

PTP was in charge of the case against Abhisit and Suthep?

Sorry, that would be like the Junta being in charge of convicting Yingluck... I don't think that was how the case against A/S was handled, ... do you?

Rumour has it the DSI was directed to pressure the OAG to charge Abhisit/Suthep with "premeditated murder as private citizens". Maybe to induce them to be more forthcoming in support for the blanket amnesty bill.

It would seem that now the correct path is followed, possibly impeachment and charge of "abuse of power" at the Supreme Court for Political Office Holders. Not sure what the statute of limitation on impeachment is. Four years plus 60 days might make sense for MPs/PMs/Cabinet Ministers. That would also explain why there doesn't seem to come an impeachment procedure for former PM Somchai, too long ago.

[rubl]

Explain which government was imposed by a coup ?

In this case, it would have been the one from December 2008. Abhisit's government.

It's known as a judicial coup.

The same tactic may have been "Plan A" in 2014, but in the end, we just got an "intervention".

It's know as 'judicial coup' by those who like labels as they are not up to explaining in legal terms why that would be so. It's so much easier to suggest it's obvious and insinuate only morons or right wing fascists wouldn't see that.

[rubl]

Can hear all the gnashing of teeth of the TV red shirts - trying to think of what to say that this turn of events...

Makes you wonder what the comments would have been if the NACC had declared to see no valid reasons to further investigate a possible case of "abuse of power" involving Abhisit/Suthep

PS will former PM Somchai lodge a defamation case against the NACC since they didn't deem him important enough for impeachment, but directly went to the Supreme Court with the "abuse of power' case ?

As you may know my view is that both Abhisit and Suthep have serious questions to answer about this period.Nevertheless it is also my strongly held view that this matter has nothing repeat nothing to do with the NACC.They should mind their own damned business and concentrate on eradicating corruption, their only purpose for existence.

It doesn't take a genius to work out this latest piece of tomfoolery is more evidence of out of control right wing crazies.

Your strongly held view is just that.

BTW the comments here are indeed interesting as I suggested they might. It would seem that apart from arranging a dawn execution of the two there's nothing the NACC could do which would satisfy some here.

PS your bias is shining through again with the "out of control right wing crazies"

[greenchair]

abhiset is getting just a bit to critical for some people's liking. Oh my my, how quickly the tides can turn.